Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Mark Brantana via BVARC]

For what it’s worth, email is great for disseminating information. It does not 
handle conversations very well at all. So, someone has a certain position on 
something. Sometimes that’s good to know. Thank you for sharing. But it doesn’t 
mean everyone has to agree. Let’s all turn the temperature down a bit. I just 
can’t stand it when the kids argue. Some of us are old enough to know better.
Mark
N5PRD

> On Oct 10, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Richard Bonica via BVARC  wrote:
> 
> OK. This is KG5YCU for ID
> Comment? Well I don't have time for a reply.
> 
> We are a club, we have MANY events, and many more to come.
> I have been with BVARC since 2005... 15yrs -- yes I did shorten the math 
> because that makes me younger
> I have seen great things done, and I stepped up to the bigger plate this year 
> to help grow the club. I don't agree with everything, but THE CLUB is for THE 
> CLUB (A.K.A. Everyone.)
> If you do not like something, then say something at the meetings. But make it 
> about the event, not people. We are  all here to improve the club, not kill 
> it in any way.
> Attacking anyone is not productive in ANY direction.
> I am looking at this wondering, if you don't like it, who is holding the gun? 
> Just don't participate, and take that energy and focus it on something you 
> want to do.
> I love feild day (Hot or cold) and I help. I love Hamfest, I am going to get 
> dirty there too.
> OK , I don't have a fondness for driving long distances for POTA, but I go to 
> the ones I can and don't go to others.
> Everyone needs to learn that opinions are like butt holes, we all have one. 
> And some stink more than others, but we keep it to ourselves the best we can.
> Let's look at facts and go from there.
> 
> Remember - like on the radio, there is a human on the other end of the 
> E-Mail..
> 
> With that said, let's have fun, we are here to make DX, commeradary, and look 
> like really smart fools. Let's keep it up and go back to center on this.
> 
> With everything going on in the world, let's not add to it. 
> 
> That is my 2 cents and all I am going to say
> 
> Over and out to all those who want to fire back... 
> 
> 73
> KG5YCU for ID
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 11:56 AM Cal Birdsall via BVARC  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Cal Birdsall
> Sent from my iPhone
> 713-419-1977
> 
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2023, at 10:25 AM, Rudolph Ackerman via BVARC > > wrote:
>> 
>> The best way to handle threads like this is "DELETE":)
>> 
>> Rudy Ackerman 
>> KF5QYG
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:09:04 AM CDT, K5BOU via BVARC 
>> mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I heard the board voted for this issue. And was decided to continue. What I 
>> was trying in my first post was to bring a legal answer to this topic 
>> because s, without knowing, the board had already voted and approved this 
>> event.
>>  
>> I understand It isn't easy to please anyone and we need to accept the 
>> board's decision; this topic is closed for me.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
>> Houston|Texas|USA|
>> https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/ 
>> 
>>   #77940
>>  
>> From: BVARC mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org>> On 
>> Behalf Of Eddie Runner via BVARC
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:58 AM
>> To: Fox Danger Piacenti mailto:kelke...@gmail.com>>
>> Cc: Eddie Runner mailto:eddie.run...@yahoo.com>>; 
>> BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>>; 
>> anthony moro mailto:w5li...@gmail.com>>; K5BOU 
>> mailto:phili...@k5bou.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
>>  
>> if you would read the posts thouroughly you might see i enjoyed the brews 
>> events i have been to.   
>>  
>> as for my children.  if you had read.  my son is a 42 yr old ham who happens 
>> to be an addict.  
>>  
>> the question isnt the event itself.  hams can meet anywhere they want to.   
>> some guys may meet to talk ham and smoke weed (and some do). dont care.  
>>  
>> issue to me is simply bvarcs sponsoring an adult only event.   all events, 
>> meetings and so on should be good for all members.  
>>  
>> Eddie
>>  
>>  
>> Sent from my iphone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Fox Danger Piacenti >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi, Eddie.
>>> We are not exclusively an adult club, but that event is an exclusively 
>>> adult event. I promise not to bring my children. I hope you will have the 
>>> same courtesy not to bring yours.
>>> If the very existence of an adults-only event on a calendar for a club is 
>>> enough to cause problems for children, their caretakers are failing them.
>>> Best,
>>> -Fox
>>> On 10/10/23 09:48, Eddie Runner wrote:
 but thats the problem you fail to see.  we are not an ADULT club.  !!! 

 we work with schools.  and boy scouts.  we even offer a student 
 membership.   

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Richard Bonica via BVARC]

OK. This is KG5YCU for ID
Comment? Well I don't have time for a reply.

We are a club, we have MANY events, and many more to come.
I have been with BVARC since 2005... 15yrs -- yes I did shorten the math
because that makes me younger
I have seen great things done, and I stepped up to the bigger plate this
year to help grow the club. I don't agree with everything, but THE CLUB is
for THE CLUB (A.K.A. Everyone.)
If you do not like something, then say something at the meetings. But make
it about the event, not people. We are  all here to improve the club, not
kill it in any way.
Attacking anyone is not productive in ANY direction.
I am looking at this wondering, if you don't like it, who is holding the
gun? Just don't participate, and take that energy and focus it on something
you want to do.
I love feild day (Hot or cold) and I help. I love Hamfest, I am going to
get dirty there too.
OK , I don't have a fondness for driving long distances for POTA, but I go
to the ones I can and don't go to others.
Everyone needs to learn that opinions are like butt holes, we all have one.
And some stink more than others, but we keep it to ourselves the best we
can.
Let's look at facts and go from there.

Remember - like on the radio, there is a human on the other end of the
E-Mail..

With that said, let's have fun, we are here to make DX, commeradary, and
look like really smart fools. Let's keep it up and go back to center on
this.

With everything going on in the world, let's not add to it.

That is my 2 cents and all I am going to say

Over and out to all those who want to fire back...

73
KG5YCU for ID





On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 11:56 AM Cal Birdsall via BVARC 
wrote:

> 
>
> Cal Birdsall
> Sent from my iPhone
> 713-419-1977
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2023, at 10:25 AM, Rudolph Ackerman via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
> The best way to handle threads like this is "DELETE":)
>
> Rudy Ackerman
> KF5QYG
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:09:04 AM CDT, K5BOU via BVARC <
> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I heard the board voted for this issue. And was decided to continue. What
> I was trying in my first post was to bring a legal answer to this topic
> because s, without knowing, the board had already voted and approved this
> event.
>
> I understand It isn't easy to please anyone and we need to accept the
> board's decision; this topic is closed for me.
>
>
>
>
> K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
> Houston|Texas|USA|
> https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/
>
>   #77940
>
> From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Eddie Runner via BVARC
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:58 AM
> To: Fox Danger Piacenti 
> Cc: Eddie Runner ; BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO
> CLUB ; anthony moro ; K5BOU <
> phili...@k5bou.net>
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
>
> if you would read the posts thouroughly you might see i enjoyed the brews
> events i have been to.
>
> as for my children.  if you had read.  my son is a 42 yr old ham who
> happens to be an addict.
>
> the question isnt the event itself.  hams can meet anywhere they want to.
>   some guys may meet to talk ham and smoke weed (and some do). dont care.
>
> issue to me is simply bvarcs sponsoring an adult only event.   all events,
> meetings and so on should be good for all members.
>
> Eddie
>
>
> Sent from my iphone
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Fox Danger Piacenti 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi, Eddie.
>
> We are not exclusively an adult club, but that event is an exclusively
> adult event. I promise not to bring my children. I hope you will have the
> same courtesy not to bring yours.
>
> If the very existence of an adults-only event on a calendar for a club is
> enough to cause problems for children, their caretakers are failing them.
>
> Best,
>
> -Fox
>
> On 10/10/23 09:48, Eddie Runner wrote:
>
> but thats the problem you fail to see.  we are not an ADULT club.  !!!
>
>
>
> we work with schools.  and boy scouts.  we even offer a student
> membership.   and always encorage youngsters to and parents to discover and
> enjoy ham radio.
>
>
>
> Eddie NU5K
>
> Sent from my iphone
>
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via BVARC  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Fox, KW6FOX, well say!
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
>
> Houston|Texas|USA|
>
> https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>   #77940
>
>
>
> From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Fox Danger Piacenti
> via BVARC
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM
>
> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB ; anthony moro <
> w5li...@gmail.com>
>
> Cc: Fox Danger Piacenti 
>
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
>
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
> I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two
> ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro event
> to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and have a
> good time.
>
> And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and the
> 

Re: [BVARC] CW POTA at Huntsville State Park

[Stephen Flowers via BVARC]

Hey Craig,
Thank you for the comment.  Yes, I would recommend the LICW 
.  It has become routine for me to join a few of 
the classes weekly and see many of the same friendly faces from all around the 
US & the world.  

In the classes, we practice CW QSO protocol, copying callsigns, sending & 
copying jokes on CW, all in a laid back atmosphere with no pressure.  So 
practicing becomes part one’s routine, sorta like the old TV show “Cheers” 
where “everybody knows your name”.

Hope that helps.

73,
Stephen (W2WF)


> On Oct 10, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Craig Coussens via BVARC  
> wrote:
> 
> Looking at joining the LICW as well Stephen, would you recommend them? I have 
> zero CW experience… Your field pack looks great! Thanks, Craig / K8CPC
>  
> From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Stephen Flowers via BVARC
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:48 AM
> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
> Cc: Stephen Flowers ; Kori Rahman 
> ; AMorones Morones 
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] CW POTA at Huntsville State Park
>  
> Colleagues,
> Good morning.  Thought I’d share the video of this past Sunday’s CW POTA 
> activation at Huntsville State Park.  It was a beautiful day to get out and 
> we did, north from downtown on I-45 for about 1 hr to the park. 
>  
> I’m relatively new to CW but thanks to the Long Island CW Club (LICW) I’m now 
> activating parks in the POTA program in CW routinely.  I’m using the (tr)uSDX 
> transceiver at ˜6W and the EFHW antenna that we built during this past BVARC 
> Field Day class.  Thanks to Anthony Morones for procuring all the parts for 
> the EFHW kit that all the students and I used.  Also, thanks to Kori for 
> asking me to teach the EFHW build class, I had a great time.  Seeing folks 
> soldering electronic connections for the first time, and doing a good job at 
> it, was gratifying to say the least.
>  
> The CW key was 3D printed by our colleague David N0LUV.  It worked 
> flawlessly, though my CW is still a work in progress.  :)
>  
> Anyway, hope that this video is interesting to you:
> 
> (tr)uSDX CW POTA in Huntsville State Park - K-3019 
> 
> youtu.be 
>  
> Enjoy our great hobby!
>  
> 73,
> Stephen (W2WF)
>  
> 
> Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club
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Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Cal Birdsall via BVARC]



Cal Birdsall
Sent from my iPhone
713-419-1977


> On Oct 10, 2023, at 10:25 AM, Rudolph Ackerman via BVARC  
> wrote:
> 
> The best way to handle threads like this is "DELETE":)
> 
> Rudy Ackerman 
> KF5QYG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:09:04 AM CDT, K5BOU via BVARC 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I heard the board voted for this issue. And was decided to continue. What I 
> was trying in my first post was to bring a legal answer to this topic because 
> s, without knowing, the board had already voted and approved this event.
>  
> I understand It isn't easy to please anyone and we need to accept the board's 
> decision; this topic is closed for me.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
> Houston|Texas|USA|
> https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/
> 
>   #77940
>  
> From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Eddie Runner via BVARC
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:58 AM
> To: Fox Danger Piacenti 
> Cc: Eddie Runner ; BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
> ; anthony moro ; K5BOU 
> 
> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
>  
> if you would read the posts thouroughly you might see i enjoyed the brews 
> events i have been to.   
>  
> as for my children.  if you had read.  my son is a 42 yr old ham who happens 
> to be an addict.  
>  
> the question isnt the event itself.  hams can meet anywhere they want to.   
> some guys may meet to talk ham and smoke weed (and some do). dont care.  
>  
> issue to me is simply bvarcs sponsoring an adult only event.   all events, 
> meetings and so on should be good for all members.  
>  
> Eddie
>  
>  
> Sent from my iphone
> 
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Fox Danger Piacenti  wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, Eddie.
>> We are not exclusively an adult club, but that event is an exclusively adult 
>> event. I promise not to bring my children. I hope you will have the same 
>> courtesy not to bring yours.
>> If the very existence of an adults-only event on a calendar for a club is 
>> enough to cause problems for children, their caretakers are failing them.
>> Best,
>> -Fox
>>> On 10/10/23 09:48, Eddie Runner wrote:
>>> but thats the problem you fail to see.  we are not an ADULT club.  !!! 
>>>
>>> we work with schools.  and boy scouts.  we even offer a student membership. 
>>>   and always encorage youngsters to and parents to discover and enjoy ham 
>>> radio.
>>>
>>> Eddie NU5K
>>> Sent from my iphone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via BVARC  wrote:
  
 Fox, KW6FOX, well say!
  
  
 
 K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
 Houston|Texas|USA|
 https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/
 
 
 
   #77940
  
 From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Fox Danger Piacenti via 
 BVARC
 Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM
 To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB ; anthony moro 
 
 Cc: Fox Danger Piacenti 
 Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
  
 Hi, all.
 I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two 
 ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro 
 event to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and 
 have a good time.
 And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and the 
 offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the correspondence 
 here. Has anything actually happened that was a problem at these events or 
 is this a lot of speculation about issues that *could* happen? I don't 
 much patience for the latter. If it's the former, it's fair to discuss how 
 to address the issue. If something happened that evening, it must have 
 happened while I wasn't looking or after I left.
 I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own 
 decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have difficulties 
 with addiction and specific substances.
 We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It also 
 means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good fit for 
 events. But if we actually come across a member we discover is behaving 
 irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those running them to 
 intervene. Worrying about whose legal responsibility it is comes as a 
 secondary concern (though still a concern!): I expect the event runners to 
 address behavior problems and let people who can't behave themselves know 
 they aren't allowed back.
 I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, I 
 saw no irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people and 
 putting some faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like events 
 at bars not come, and if they have particular concern about a members 
 welfare if they were to attend, to let the event runner know about it. 
 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Chris Medlin via BVARC]

I’ll piggy back off of Fox’s email…
Ive been a ham a long time (2/3 of my life) and Ive been affiliated with a lot 
of different clubs. I don’t typically join a club for the social part.. I 
rarely attended meetings. I pay dues to clubs when I use their repeater 
regularly, to financially support the running of all the equipment (my dad 
built and ran repeaters my whole life, so I understand the financial aspect). 
But.. I was in town only a few weeks and I heard on the radio there were some 
hams meeting up at No Label in Katy… and I wanted to meet some people. It was a 
nice night. Rainy.. but a nice night. There were people there (not with our 
group) with their kids and dogs and it looked like a cool place for 
socializing. Of course, the kids were not drinking. There were food vendors and 
it looked like a good open air place. Met some cool people. I missed a few 
other events after that and made a few others. In the few I’ve gone to I 
haven’t seen any problems with anyone. I too expect people to have individual 
responsibility.. the worst decisions Ive seen at these events I have attended 
were people paying hard earned money for green pickle sour beers. Blek!
When I move to a new place I’ve always shied away from the “larger” clubs 
because of all the politics.. but I made some friends here and there’s a lot of 
good people here. And there are things to do that get me and my non-ham wife 
out of the house in my post-covid era remote work lifestyle.  I look at it like 
this… families fight. We have a big family here, 360+ members?
Im probably one of the newest (April).  Hopefully, the fighting gets squelched 
soon… and the ruffled feathers can get smoothed out and we can all get down the 
road…

73/Chris/AC5CM


From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Fox Danger Piacenti via BVARC
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB ; anthony moro 

Cc: Fox Danger Piacenti 
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!


Hi, all.

I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two ago. I 
went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro event to the 
club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and have a good time.

And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and the 
offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the correspondence here. 
Has anything actually happened that was a problem at these events or is this a 
lot of speculation about issues that *could* happen? I don't much patience for 
the latter. If it's the former, it's fair to discuss how to address the issue. 
If something happened that evening, it must have happened while I wasn't 
looking or after I left.

I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own 
decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have difficulties with 
addiction and specific substances.

We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It also 
means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good fit for events. 
But if we actually come across a member we discover is behaving irresponsibly 
at these get-togethers, I do expect those running them to intervene. Worrying 
about whose legal responsibility it is comes as a secondary concern (though 
still a concern!): I expect the event runners to address behavior problems and 
let people who can't behave themselves know they aren't allowed back.

I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, I saw no 
irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people and putting some 
faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like events at bars not come, 
and if they have particular concern about a members welfare if they were to 
attend, to let the event runner know about it. From there, we can judge actions.

If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was handled 
poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring up here. Otherwise 
I'd suggest people live and let live.

Best,

-Fox, KW6FOX
On 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:
oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club. not just you.
i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier brains thinking 
about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind the scenes.

we need a big turnout for the november club elections!   we rarely have more 
than one person running for office.  should be fun.

as far as Brews with bvarc.  months ago i was one of the only ones to speak up 
with my feelings on the subject.

now that others are thinking about it and sharing their thoughts you cant say 
they are causing problems.  they are club members and they are allowed 
(encouraged) to share opinions.

if members sharing their views are considered problems then we should be very 
carefull who we vote for.

Eddie NU5K
Sent from my iphone


On Oct 10, 2023, at 8:10 AM, anthony moro 
 wrote:

As you say to me all the 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Rod Lewis via BVARC]

Where are the adults in the room?One reason I haven’t participated in amateur radio clubs until BVARC, after a short stint with one in Fort Bend County and the other in Polk, is this kind of unproductive infighting.As I interpret this thread, there was an issue over an event, “Brews with BVARC,” where some individuals were concerned about liability for a group sponsored event where alcohol was/will be served.Only an establishment holding a TABC alcohol beverage license can be held liable for a person who in an intoxicated state, causes injury or death to someone on the premises named on the permit. If you go to a private event, it is your personal  responsibility as an adult, to know your limit in terms of alcohol intake. As a retired healthcare professional of 45 years, even small amounts of alcohol should not be consumed because of interactions with a large number of common medications many of us take, for example OTC antihistamines.To make a rather innocuous social event into a talking point or “dividing the club” and becoming politicized is absurd. I don’t get out much due to heath issues in my older age and I got into amateur radio to keep in touch over the radio with like minded individuals or at least those who share a common interest in the hobby. I joined BVARC about a year ago, not necessarily to attend any social functions, but to support local amateur radio. What I didn’t join is for the same reason I dropped out of the other clubs, because of this juvenile infighting over inconsequential issues like the title of a social event on the club website.LewisKC5RJLOn Oct 10, 2023, at 6:14 AM, Eddie Runner via BVARC  wrote:
MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections, my concern was the appearance of the website...I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name..I didnt see anyone mentioning names till you mentioned MikesYou (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times..  (that is mud slinging)Why did you drop from the board when there is only a couple of months lefton your board of directors term...   Your my buddy, I would do anything for youbut I am calling you a cry baby.. probably related to Kori running against Mike.I guess  your buddy Kori is running against Mike for president this term..Mike has been a pretty damn good president for a very long time, he hasalways been there for our club when no one else has been..  When no one elsewill, Mikey is always there..  Club is huge, money in the bank, food at meetings,amazing hamfest,  thank you Mike Time for a change?  Sure, Maybe! Kori is very energetic and very popular in the club..   He is a pretty smart guy.and would likely make a good president ..  Will he be willing to put as much intoBVARC as Mike does..??   Time will tell.Eddie (NU5K)it is our club, speak your mind..   





On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:17:45 PM CDT, anthony moro  wrote:



I have been thinking all day about this. I think this is a way of throwing mud during the elections. This is not fair to either side. So everyone knows I have left the board for this very sort of stuff. I think this club needs to stop being divided and think about what's best for the club. Acting like this about an event the club president allowed to happen is not what's best for the club. I think that we need to leave the name of the event alone and stop acting like everybody in the club doesn't drink at all. I say this and also tell y'all about my past. I was given probation for my third DWI. While on probation I found a great hobby, and all of yall have been great friends to me. I know that at least one person in the club has a few beers after work. There is nothing wrong with that. So saying that, we should leave this topic alone and think and look to the future of this club. If you feel the same way I feel then think real hard about what is really going on in the club and see how we as a club can pull together and put an end to this click kind of behavior. We should work together, not against each other. Just like some of yall dont get up for the 6:30am breakfast or leave work to go to the Lunch Bunch do the same with this event. If you don't have the time and would like to be with the family instead then don't go and keep your comments about an event the club president allowed to yourself. I am appalled with the behavior of some people that chose to act this way. I know yall are better than this. Now let's get back to having fun in this hobby as one of the largest clubs in texas, and show people what being a great HAM is about. If you have any questions or comments about what I said in this email, please email me directly. I am willing to talk to yall about how I feel about how the club members are acting about an event that has been going on for almost a year now. Also remember the club president allowed this 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Mike Knerr via BVARC]

I couldn't have said it better.
I don't know what all the fuss is about. None of the club events are
mandatory. If you don't want to attend, don't go.
If you feel left out because of an event, start one you think others
might be interested in.
Mike Knerr KI5UBL  73

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 9:28 AM Fox Danger Piacenti via BVARC 
wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two
> ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro event
> to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and have a
> good time.
>
> And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and the
> offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the correspondence
> here. Has anything actually happened that was a problem at these events or
> is this a lot of speculation about issues that *could* happen? I don't much
> patience for the latter. If it's the former, it's fair to discuss how to
> address the issue. If something happened that evening, it must have
> happened while I wasn't looking or after I left.
>
> I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own
> decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have difficulties
> with addiction and specific substances.
>
> We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It also
> means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good fit for
> events. But if we actually come across a member we discover is behaving
> irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those running them to
> intervene. Worrying about whose legal responsibility it is comes as a
> secondary concern (though still a concern!): I expect the event runners to
> address behavior problems and let people who can't behave themselves know
> they aren't allowed back.
>
> I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, I
> saw no irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people and
> putting some faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like events
> at bars not come, and if they have particular concern about a members
> welfare if they were to attend, to let the event runner know about it. From
> there, we can judge actions.
>
> If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was handled
> poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring up here.
> Otherwise I'd suggest people live and let live.
>
> Best,
>
> -Fox, KW6FOX
> On 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:
>
> oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club. not just
> you.
> i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier brains
> thinking about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind the scenes.
>
> we need a big turnout for the november club elections!   we rarely have
> more than one person running for office.  should be fun.
>
> as far as Brews with bvarc.  months ago i was one of the only ones to
> speak up with my feelings on the subject.
>
> now that others are thinking about it and sharing their thoughts you cant
> say they are causing problems.  they are club members and they are allowed
> (encouraged) to share opinions.
>
> if members sharing their views are considered problems then we should be
> very carefull who we vote for.
>
> Eddie NU5K
>
> Sent from my iphone
>
> On Oct 10, 2023, at 8:10 AM, anthony moro 
>  wrote:
>
> 
> As you say to me all the time ( you did not read all of my email). I said
> at the end of my last response that if you had any more
> questions or comments email me directly. I am not going to answer or say
> anything bad about the board on the reflector. As stated in my last
> response you can email me about the reason I left the board. I just
> want the club to enjoy the event and don't want club members to be
> causing problems about an event that both Kori and Mike put together.It's
> interesting that the problem goes away a few months, and a month later it's
> right back with more people causing problems. It's like somehow they were
> told about only the bad not any of the good. For a while there were no
> problems and now the past few months there is a problem with the event. I
> mentioned the club president (Mike), because he talked to Kori about the
> event and said, (go with it). So I don't understand how now he or other
> club members have a problem with the event.
>
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:13 AM Eddie Runner 
> wrote:
>
>> MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections,
>> my concern was the appearance of the website...
>>
>> I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name..
>> I didnt see anyone mentioning names till you mentioned Mikes
>>
>> You (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times..  (that is mud
>> slinging)
>>
>> Why did you drop from the board when there is only a couple of months left
>> on your board of directors term...   Your my buddy, I would do anything
>> for you
>> but I am calling you a cry baby.. 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Rudolph Ackerman via BVARC]

The best way to handle threads like this is "DELETE"    :)

Rudy Ackerman 
KF5QYG






On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 10:09:04 AM CDT, K5BOU via BVARC 
 wrote: 






I heard the board voted for this issue. And was decided to continue. What I was 
trying in my first post was to bring a legal answer to this topic because s, 
without knowing, the board had already voted and approved this event.
 
I understand It isn't easy to please anyone and we need to accept the board's 
decision; this topic is closed for me.
 
 
 

K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
Houston|Texas|USA|
https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/

  #77940
 
From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Eddie Runner via BVARC
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:58 AM
To: Fox Danger Piacenti 
Cc: Eddie Runner ; BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB 
; anthony moro ; K5BOU 
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
 
if you would read the posts thouroughly you might see i enjoyed the brews 
events i have been to.   
 
as for my children.  if you had read.  my son is a 42 yr old ham who happens to 
be an addict.  
 
the question isnt the event itself.  hams can meet anywhere they want to.   
some guys may meet to talk ham and smoke weed (and some do). dont care.  
 
issue to me is simply bvarcs sponsoring an adult only event.   all events, 
meetings and so on should be good for all members.  
 
Eddie
 
 
Sent from my iphone


> On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Fox Danger Piacenti  wrote:
>  
> Hi, Eddie.
> We are not exclusively an adult club, but that event is an exclusively adult 
> event. I promise not to bring my children. I hope you will have the same 
> courtesy not to bring yours.
> If the very existence of an adults-only event on a calendar for a club is 
> enough to cause problems for children, their caretakers are failing them.
> Best,
> -Fox
> On 10/10/23 09:48, Eddie Runner wrote:
>> but thats the problem you fail to see.  we are not an ADULT club.  !!! 
>>   
>> we work with schools.  and boy scouts.  we even offer a student membership.  
>>  and always encorage youngsters to and parents to discover and enjoy ham 
>> radio.    
>>   
>> Eddie NU5K
>> Sent from my iphone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via BVARC  wrote:
>>>  
>>> Fox, KW6FOX, well say!
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
>>> Houston|Texas|USA|
>>> https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   #77940
>>>  
>>> From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Fox Danger Piacenti via 
>>> BVARC
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM
>>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB ; anthony moro 
>>> 
>>> Cc: Fox Danger Piacenti 
>>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
>>>  
>>> Hi, all.
>>> I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two 
>>> ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro event 
>>> to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and have a 
>>> good time.
>>> And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and the 
>>> offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the correspondence 
>>> here. Has anything actually happened that was a problem at these events or 
>>> is this a lot of speculation about issues that *could* happen? I don't much 
>>> patience for the latter. If it's the former, it's fair to discuss how to 
>>> address the issue. If something happened that evening, it must have 
>>> happened while I wasn't looking or after I left.
>>> I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own 
>>> decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have difficulties 
>>> with addiction and specific substances.
>>> We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It also 
>>> means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good fit for 
>>> events. But if we actually come across a member we discover is behaving 
>>> irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those running them to 
>>> intervene. Worrying about whose legal responsibility it is comes as a 
>>> secondary concern (though still a concern!): I expect the event runners to 
>>> address behavior problems and let people who can't behave themselves know 
>>> they aren't allowed back.
>>> I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, I saw 
>>> no irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people and putting 
>>> some faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like events at bars 
>>> not come, and if they have particular concern about a members welfare if 
>>> they were to attend, to let the event runner know about it. From there, we 
>>> can judge actions.
>>> If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was handled 
>>> poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring up here. 
>>> Otherwise I'd suggest people live and let live.
>>> Best,
>>> -Fox, KW6FOX
>>> On 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[mark janzer via BVARC]

 Sponsoring an event means that club funds are being used. That appears not to 
be that case here and is a misleading statement. Each attendee is responsible 
for their own tab. And each attendee is responsible for their behavior.
The club is sanctioning this event as a means of fellowship, and it so happens 
it's at an adult venue (caveat emptor).
Other club sanctioned and sponsored events are inclusive of all members 
(hamfest, POTA,  general meeting, VE testing, board meetings, etc.).
To settle this, add the disclaimer "This may be considered an adult event 
(+21), as the venues serve alcoholic beverages".Let the adults figure out 
whether they would want to attend or not. Let them determine if it offends 
their sensibilities, not "you".
Respectfully submitted.MarkK5MGJ

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 09:59:01 AM CDT, Eddie Runner via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
 if you would read the posts thouroughly you might see i enjoyed the brews 
events i have been to.   
as for my children.  if you had read.  my son is a 42 yr old ham who happens to 
be an addict.  
the question isnt the event itself.  hams can meet anywhere they want to.   
some guys may meet to talk ham and smoke weed (and some do). dont care.  
issue to me is simply bvarcs sponsoring an adult only event.   all events, 
meetings and so on should be good for all members.  
Eddie


Sent from my iphone

On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Fox Danger Piacenti  wrote:



 

Hi, Eddie.
 
We are not exclusively an adult club, but that event is an exclusively adult 
event. I promise not to bring my children. I hope you will have the same 
courtesy not to bring yours.
 
If the very existence of an adults-only event on a calendar for a club is 
enough to cause problems for children, their caretakers are failing them.
 
Best,
 
-Fox
 
 On 10/10/23 09:48, Eddie Runner wrote:
  
 
 but thats the problem you fail to see.  we are not an ADULT club.  !!! 
  we work with schools.  and boy scouts.  we even offer a student membership.   
and always encorage youngsters to and parents to discover and enjoy ham radio.  
   
  Eddie NU5K
 
 Sent from my iphone 
 
On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via BVARC  wrote:
 
 
  
  
 
Fox, KW6FOX, well say!
 
  
  
  
 

   
K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
 
Houston|Texas|USA|
 
https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/
 
  #77940
  
  
   
From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Fox Danger Piacenti via BVARC
 Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM
 To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB ; anthony moro 

 Cc: Fox Danger Piacenti 
 Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
   
  
 
Hi, all.
 
I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two ago. I 
went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro event to the 
club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and have a good time.
 
And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and the 
offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the correspondence here. 
Has anything actually happened that was a problem at these events or is this a 
lot of speculation about issues that *could* happen? I don't much patience for 
the latter. If it's the former, it's fair to discuss how to address the issue. 
If something happened that evening, it must have happened while I wasn't 
looking or after I left.
 
I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own 
decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have difficulties with 
addiction and specific substances.
 
We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It also 
means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good fit for events. 
But if we actually come across a member we discover is behaving irresponsibly 
at these get-togethers, I do expect those running them to intervene. Worrying 
about whose legal responsibility it is comes as a secondary concern (though 
still a concern!): I expect the event runners to address behavior problems and 
let people who can't behave themselves know they aren't allowed back.
 
I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, I saw no 
irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people and putting some 
faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like events at bars not come, 
and if they have particular concern about a members welfare if they were to 
attend, to let the event runner know about it. From there, we can judge actions.
 
If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was handled 
poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring up here. Otherwise 
I'd suggest people live and let live.
 
Best,
 
-Fox, KW6FOX
  
On 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:
  
 
oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club. not just you. 
  
  
i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier brains thinking 
about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind the scenes.  
 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[John Mechura via BVARC]

This is turning into a

"Brew-haha"

For sure I am entertained.

John, KI5HOC

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 9:59 AM Eddie Runner via BVARC 
wrote:

> if you would read the posts thouroughly you might see i enjoyed the brews
> events i have been to.
>
> as for my children.  if you had read.  my son is a 42 yr old ham who
> happens to be an addict.
>
> the question isnt the event itself.  hams can meet anywhere they want to.
>   some guys may meet to talk ham and smoke weed (and some do). dont care.
>
> issue to me is simply bvarcs sponsoring an adult only event.   all events,
> meetings and so on should be good for all members.
>
> Eddie
>
>
>
> Sent from my iphone
>
> On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Fox Danger Piacenti 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi, Eddie.
>
> We are not exclusively an adult club, but that event is an exclusively
> adult event. I promise not to bring my children. I hope you will have the
> same courtesy not to bring yours.
>
> If the very existence of an adults-only event on a calendar for a club is
> enough to cause problems for children, their caretakers are failing them.
>
> Best,
>
> -Fox
> On 10/10/23 09:48, Eddie Runner wrote:
>
> but thats the problem you fail to see.  we are not an ADULT club.  !!!
>
> we work with schools.  and boy scouts.  we even offer a student
> membership.   and always encorage youngsters to and parents to discover and
> enjoy ham radio.
>
> Eddie NU5K
>
> Sent from my iphone
>
> On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via BVARC 
>  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Fox, KW6FOX, well say!
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
>
> Houston*|*Texas*|*USA*|*
>
> https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/
> 
> 
> 
>
>   #77940
>
>
>
> *From:* BVARC   *On
> Behalf Of *Fox Danger Piacenti via BVARC
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM
> *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB  ;
> anthony moro  
> *Cc:* Fox Danger Piacenti  
> *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!
>
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
> I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two
> ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro event
> to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and have a
> good time.
>
> And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and the
> offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the correspondence
> here. Has anything actually happened that was a problem at these events or
> is this a lot of speculation about issues that *could* happen? I don't much
> patience for the latter. If it's the former, it's fair to discuss how to
> address the issue. If something happened that evening, it must have
> happened while I wasn't looking or after I left.
>
> I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own
> decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have difficulties
> with addiction and specific substances.
>
> We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It also
> means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good fit for
> events. But if we actually come across a member we discover is behaving
> irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those running them to
> intervene. Worrying about whose legal responsibility it is comes as a
> secondary concern (though still a concern!): I expect the event runners to
> address behavior problems and let people who can't behave themselves know
> they aren't allowed back.
>
> I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, I
> saw no irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people and
> putting some faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like events
> at bars not come, and if they have particular concern about a members
> welfare if they were to attend, to let the event runner know about it. From
> there, we can judge actions.
>
> If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was handled
> poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring up here.
> Otherwise I'd suggest people live and let live.
>
> Best,
>
> -Fox, KW6FOX
>
> On 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:
>
> oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club. not just
> you.
>
> i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier brains
> thinking about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind the scenes.
>
>
>
> we need a big turnout for the november club elections!   we rarely have
> more than one person running for office.  should be fun.
>
>
>
> as far as Brews with bvarc.  months ago i was one of the only ones to
> speak up with my feelings on the subject.
>
>
>
> now that others are thinking about it and sharing their thoughts you cant
> say they are causing problems.  they are club members and they are allowed
> (encouraged) to share opinions.
>
>
>
> if members sharing their views are considered problems then we should be
> very carefull who we vote for.
>
>
>
> Eddie NU5K
>
> Sent from my iphone
>
>
>

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Eddie Runner via BVARC]

if you would read the posts thouroughly you might see i enjoyed the brews events i have been to.   as for my children.  if you had read.  my son is a 42 yr old ham who happens to be an addict.  the question isnt the event itself.  hams can meet anywhere they want to.   some guys may meet to talk ham and smoke weed (and some do). dont care.  issue to me is simply bvarcs sponsoring an adult only event.   all events, meetings and so on should be good for all members.  EddieSent from my iphoneOn Oct 10, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Fox Danger Piacenti  wrote:

  

  
  
Hi, Eddie.
We are not exclusively an adult club, but that event is an
  exclusively adult event. I promise not to bring my children. I
  hope you will have the same courtesy not to bring yours.
If the very existence of an adults-only event on a calendar for a
  club is enough to cause problems for children, their caretakers
  are failing them.
Best,
-Fox

On 10/10/23 09:48, Eddie Runner wrote:


  
  but thats the problem you fail to see.  we are not an ADULT club.
   !!!
  
  
  we work with schools.  and boy scouts.  we even offer a
student membership.   and always encorage youngsters to and
parents to discover and enjoy ham radio.    
  
  
  Eddie NU5K

Sent from my iphone

  On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via
BVARC  wrote:

  


  





  Fox, KW6FOX, well say!
   
  
 



K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont
Houston|Texas|USA|
https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/




 
#77940
  
   
  

  From: BVARC
 On Behalf Of Fox
Danger Piacenti via BVARC
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB
; anthony moro

Cc: Fox Danger Piacenti

Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this
Tuesday!

  
   
  Hi, all.
  I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined
only a month or two ago. I went to last month's Brew's
with BVARC event as my first intro event to the club.
Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and have
a good time.
  And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with
club members and the offerings at the bar. I'm a bit
confused from some of the correspondence here. Has
anything actually happened that was a problem at these
events or is this a lot of speculation about issues that
*could* happen? I don't much patience for the latter. If
it's the former, it's fair to discuss how to address the
issue. If something happened that evening, it must have
happened while I wasn't looking or after I left.
  I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to
make their own decisions. I also am quite aware that
sometimes people have difficulties with addiction and
specific substances.
  We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity
of events. It also means we're more likely to have some
members who aren't a good fit for events. But if we
actually come across a member we discover is behaving
irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those
running them to intervene. Worrying about whose legal
responsibility it is comes as a secondary concern
(though still a concern!): I expect the event runners to
address behavior problems and let people who can't
behave themselves know they aren't allowed back.
  I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found
the event fun, I saw no irresponsible behavior and I had
a great time meeting people and putting some faces to
callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like events at
bars not come, and if they have particular concern about
a members welfare if they were to attend, to let the
event runner know about it. From there, we can judge
actions.
  If anyone had a 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Fox Danger Piacenti via BVARC]

Hi, Eddie.

We are not exclusively an adult club, but that event is an exclusively 
adult event. I promise not to bring my children. I hope you will have 
the same courtesy not to bring yours.


If the very existence of an adults-only event on a calendar for a club 
is enough to cause problems for children, their caretakers are failing them.


Best,

-Fox

On 10/10/23 09:48, Eddie Runner wrote:

but thats the problem you fail to see.  we are not an ADULT club.  !!!

we work with schools.  and boy scouts.  we even offer a student 
membership.   and always encorage youngsters to and parents to 
discover and enjoy ham radio.


Eddie NU5K

Sent from my iphone


On Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via BVARC  wrote:



Fox, KW6FOX, well say!



K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont

Houston*|*Texas*|*USA*|*

https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/





#77940

*From:* BVARC  *On Behalf Of *Fox Danger 
Piacenti via BVARC

*Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AM
*To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB ; anthony 
moro 

*Cc:* Fox Danger Piacenti 
*Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

Hi, all.

I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or 
two ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first 
intro event to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some 
folks and have a good time.


And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members 
and the offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the 
correspondence here. Has anything actually happened that was a 
problem at these events or is this a lot of speculation about issues 
that *could* happen? I don't much patience for the latter. If it's 
the former, it's fair to discuss how to address the issue. If 
something happened that evening, it must have happened while I wasn't 
looking or after I left.


I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own 
decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have 
difficulties with addiction and specific substances.


We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It 
also means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good 
fit for events. But if we actually come across a member we discover 
is behaving irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those 
running them to intervene. Worrying about whose legal responsibility 
it is comes as a secondary concern (though still a concern!): I 
expect the event runners to address behavior problems and let people 
who can't behave themselves know they aren't allowed back.


I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, 
I saw no irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people 
and putting some faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't 
like events at bars not come, and if they have particular concern 
about a members welfare if they were to attend, to let the event 
runner know about it. From there, we can judge actions.


If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was 
handled poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring 
up here. Otherwise I'd suggest people live and let live.


Best,

-Fox, KW6FOX

On 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:

oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club.
not just you.

i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier
brains thinking about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind
the scenes.

we need a big turnout for the november club elections!   we
rarely have more than one person running for office.  should be fun.

as far as Brews with bvarc.  months ago i was one of the only
ones to speak up with my feelings on the subject.

now that others are thinking about it and sharing their thoughts
you cant say they are causing problems.  they are club members
and they are allowed (encouraged) to share opinions.

if members sharing their views are considered problems then we
should be very carefull who we vote for.

Eddie NU5K

Sent from my iphone



On Oct 10, 2023, at 8:10 AM, anthony moro 
 wrote:



As you say to me all the time ( you did not read all of my
email). I said at the end of my last response that if you had
any more questions or comments email me directly. I am not
going to answer or say anything bad about the board on the
reflector. As stated in my last response you can email me
about the reason I left the board. I just want the club to
enjoy the event and don't want club members to be
causing problems about an event that both Kori and Mike
put together.It's interesting that the problem goes away a
few months, and a month later it's right back with more
people causing problems. It's like somehow they were told
about only the bad not any of the good. For a while there
were no 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Eddie Runner via BVARC]

but thats the problem you fail to see.  we are not an ADULT club.  !!!we work with schools.  and boy scouts.  we even offer a student membership.   and always encorage youngsters to and parents to discover and enjoy ham radio.    Eddie NU5KSent from my iphoneOn Oct 10, 2023, at 9:38 AM, K5BOU via BVARC  wrote:Fox, KW6FOX, well say!  K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumontHouston|Texas|USA|https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/  #77940 From: BVARC  On Behalf Of Fox Danger Piacenti via BVARCSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:27 AMTo: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB ; anthony moro Cc: Fox Danger Piacenti Subject: Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday! Hi, all.I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro event to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and have a good time.And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and the offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the correspondence here. Has anything actually happened that was a problem at these events or is this a lot of speculation about issues that *could* happen? I don't much patience for the latter. If it's the former, it's fair to discuss how to address the issue. If something happened that evening, it must have happened while I wasn't looking or after I left.I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have difficulties with addiction and specific substances.We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It also means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good fit for events. But if we actually come across a member we discover is behaving irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those running them to intervene. Worrying about whose legal responsibility it is comes as a secondary concern (though still a concern!): I expect the event runners to address behavior problems and let people who can't behave themselves know they aren't allowed back.I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, I saw no irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people and putting some faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like events at bars not come, and if they have particular concern about a members welfare if they were to attend, to let the event runner know about it. From there, we can judge actions.If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was handled poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring up here. Otherwise I'd suggest people live and let live.Best,-Fox, KW6FOXOn 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club. not just you.   i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier brains thinking about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind the scenes.   we need a big turnout for the november club elections!   we rarely have more than one person running for office.  should be fun.  as far as Brews with bvarc.  months ago i was one of the only ones to speak up with my feelings on the subject.    now that others are thinking about it and sharing their thoughts you cant say they are causing problems.  they are club members and they are allowed (encouraged) to share opinions.    if members sharing their views are considered problems then we should be very carefull who we vote for.   Eddie NU5KSent from my iphoneOn Oct 10, 2023, at 8:10 AM, anthony moro  wrote: As you say to me all the time ( you did not read all of my email). I said at the end of my last response that if you had any more questions or comments email me directly. I am not going to answer or say anything bad about the board on the reflector. As stated in my last response you can email me about the reason I left the board. I just want the club to enjoy the event and don't want club members to be causing problems about an event that both Kori and Mike put together.It's interesting that the problem goes away a few months, and a month later it's right back with more people causing problems. It's like somehow they were told about only the bad not any of the good. For a while there were no problems and now the past few months there is a problem with the event. I mentioned the club president (Mike), because he talked to Kori about the event and said, (go with it). So I don't understand how now he or other club members have a problem with the event.  On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:13 AM Eddie Runner  wrote:MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections, my concern was the appearance of the website... I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name..I didnt see anyone mentioning names till you mentioned Mikes You (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times..  (that is mud slinging) Why did you drop from the board when 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Fox Danger Piacenti via BVARC]

Hi, all.

I'm a fairly new member of this club, having joined only a month or two 
ago. I went to last month's Brew's with BVARC event as my first intro 
event to the club. Seemed like a fun way to get to know some folks and 
have a good time.


And it was exactly that. I loved getting to hang with club members and 
the offerings at the bar. I'm a bit confused from some of the 
correspondence here. Has anything actually happened that was a problem 
at these events or is this a lot of speculation about issues that 
*could* happen? I don't much patience for the latter. If it's the 
former, it's fair to discuss how to address the issue. If something 
happened that evening, it must have happened while I wasn't looking or 
after I left.


I expect club members to be adults. I expect people to make their own 
decisions. I also am quite aware that sometimes people have difficulties 
with addiction and specific substances.


We're a very large club. That leaves room for diversity of events. It 
also means we're more likely to have some members who aren't a good fit 
for events. But if we actually come across a member we discover is 
behaving irresponsibly at these get-togethers, I do expect those running 
them to intervene. Worrying about whose legal responsibility it is comes 
as a secondary concern (though still a concern!): I expect the event 
runners to address behavior problems and let people who can't behave 
themselves know they aren't allowed back.


I'm telling everyone here as a new club member I found the event fun, I 
saw no irresponsible behavior and I had a great time meeting people and 
putting some faces to callsigns. I suggest anyone who doesn't like 
events at bars not come, and if they have particular concern about a 
members welfare if they were to attend, to let the event runner know 
about it. From there, we can judge actions.


If anyone had a specific incident at the event that they felt was 
handled poorly and not addressed, I think that's important to bring up 
here. Otherwise I'd suggest people live and let live.


Best,

-Fox, KW6FOX

On 10/10/23 08:59, Eddie Runner via BVARC wrote:
oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club. not 
just you.
i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier brains 
thinking about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind the scenes.


we need a big turnout for the november club elections!   we rarely 
have more than one person running for office.  should be fun.


as far as Brews with bvarc.  months ago i was one of the only ones to 
speak up with my feelings on the subject.


now that others are thinking about it and sharing their thoughts you 
cant say they are causing problems.  they are club members and they 
are allowed (encouraged) to share opinions.


if members sharing their views are considered problems then we should 
be very carefull who we vote for.


Eddie NU5K

Sent from my iphone


On Oct 10, 2023, at 8:10 AM, anthony moro  wrote:


As you say to me all the time ( you did not read all of my email). I 
said at the end of my last response that if you had any more 
questions or comments email me directly. I am not going to answer or 
say anything bad about the board on the reflector. As stated in my 
last response you can email me about the reason I left the board. I 
just want the club to enjoy the event and don't want club members to 
be causing problems about an event that both Kori and Mike 
put together.It's interesting that the problem goes away a few 
months, and a month later it's right back with more people causing 
problems. It's like somehow they were told about only the bad not any 
of the good. For a while there were no problems and now the past few 
months there is a problem with the event. I mentioned the club 
president (Mike), because he talked to Kori about the event and said, 
(go with it). So I don't understand how now he or other club members 
have a problem with the event.


On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:13 AM Eddie Runner  
wrote:


MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections,
my concern was the appearance of the website...

I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name..
I didnt see anyone mentioning names till you mentioned Mikes

You (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times..  (that is
mud slinging)

Why did you drop from the board when there is only a couple of
months left
on your board of directors term...  Your my buddy, I would do
anything for you
but I am calling you a cry baby.. probably related to Kori
running against Mike.

I guess  your buddy Kori is running against Mike for president
this term..

Mike has been a pretty damn good president for a very long time,
he has
always been there for our club when no one else has been..  When
no one else
will, Mikey is always there..  Club is huge, money in the bank,
food at meetings,
amazing hamfest,  thank you Mike 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Eddie Runner via BVARC]

oh i read your email. but i wanted my thoughts to go to the club. not just you.  i usually try to get the membership involved. at least thier brains thinking about some of the fun stuff that goes on behind the scenes.  we need a big turnout for the november club elections!   we rarely have more than one person running for office.  should be fun. as far as Brews with bvarc.  months ago i was one of the only ones to speak up with my feelings on the subject.   now that others are thinking about it and sharing their thoughts you cant say they are causing problems.  they are club members and they are allowed (encouraged) to share opinions.   if members sharing their views are considered problems then we should be very carefull who we vote for.  Eddie NU5KSent from my iphoneOn Oct 10, 2023, at 8:10 AM, anthony moro  wrote:As you say to me all the time ( you did not read all of my email). I said at the end of my last response that if you had any more questions or comments email me directly. I am not going to answer or say anything bad about the board on the reflector. As stated in my last response you can email me about the reason I left the board. I just want the club to enjoy the event and don't want club members to be causing problems about an event that both Kori and Mike put together.It's interesting that the problem goes away a few months, and a month later it's right back with more people causing problems. It's like somehow they were told about only the bad not any of the good. For a while there were no problems and now the past few months there is a problem with the event. I mentioned the club president (Mike), because he talked to Kori about the event and said, (go with it). So I don't understand how now he or other club members have a problem with the event. On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:13 AM Eddie Runner  wrote:
MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections, my concern was the appearance of the website...I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name..I didnt see anyone mentioning names till you mentioned MikesYou (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times..  (that is mud slinging)Why did you drop from the board when there is only a couple of months lefton your board of directors term...   Your my buddy, I would do anything for youbut I am calling you a cry baby.. probably related to Kori running against Mike.I guess  your buddy Kori is running against Mike for president this term..Mike has been a pretty damn good president for a very long time, he hasalways been there for our club when no one else has been..  When no one elsewill, Mikey is always there..  Club is huge, money in the bank, food at meetings,amazing hamfest,  thank you Mike Time for a change?  Sure, Maybe! Kori is very energetic and very popular in the club..   He is a pretty smart guy.and would likely make a good president ..  Will he be willing to put as much intoBVARC as Mike does..??   Time will tell.Eddie (NU5K)it is our club, speak your mind..   





On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:17:45 PM CDT, anthony moro  wrote:



I have been thinking all day about this. I think this is a way of throwing mud during the elections. This is not fair to either side. So everyone knows I have left the board for this very sort of stuff. I think this club needs to stop being divided and think about what's best for the club. Acting like this about an event the club president allowed to happen is not what's best for the club. I think that we need to leave the name of the event alone and stop acting like everybody in the club doesn't drink at all. I say this and also tell y'all about my past. I was given probation for my third DWI. While on probation I found a great hobby, and all of yall have been great friends to me. I know that at least one person in the club has a few beers after work. There is nothing wrong with that. So saying that, we should leave this topic alone and think and look to the future of this club. If you feel the same way I feel then think real hard about what is really going on in the club and see how we as a club can pull together and put an end to this click kind of behavior. We should work together, not against each other. Just like some of yall dont get up for the 6:30am breakfast or leave work to go to the Lunch Bunch do the same with this event. If you don't have the time and would like to be with the family instead then don't go and keep your comments about an event the club president allowed to yourself. I am appalled with the behavior of some people that chose to act this way. I know yall are better than this. Now let's get back to having fun in this hobby as one of the largest clubs in texas, and show people what being a great HAM is about. If you have any questions or comments about what I said in 

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Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[anthony moro via BVARC]

As you say to me all the time ( you did not read all of my email). I said
at the end of my last response that if you had any more
questions or comments email me directly. I am not going to answer or say
anything bad about the board on the reflector. As stated in my last
response you can email me about the reason I left the board. I just
want the club to enjoy the event and don't want club members to be
causing problems about an event that both Kori and Mike put together.It's
interesting that the problem goes away a few months, and a month later it's
right back with more people causing problems. It's like somehow they were
told about only the bad not any of the good. For a while there were no
problems and now the past few months there is a problem with the event. I
mentioned the club president (Mike), because he talked to Kori about the
event and said, (go with it). So I don't understand how now he or other
club members have a problem with the event.

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 6:13 AM Eddie Runner  wrote:

> MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections,
> my concern was the appearance of the website...
>
> I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name..
> I didnt see anyone mentioning names till you mentioned Mikes
>
> You (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times..  (that is mud
> slinging)
>
> Why did you drop from the board when there is only a couple of months left
> on your board of directors term...   Your my buddy, I would do anything
> for you
> but I am calling you a cry baby.. probably related to Kori running against
> Mike.
>
> I guess  your buddy Kori is running against Mike for president this term..
>
> Mike has been a pretty damn good president for a very long time, he has
> always been there for our club when no one else has been..  When no one
> else
> will, Mikey is always there..  Club is huge, money in the bank, food at
> meetings,
> amazing hamfest,  thank you Mike 
>
> Time for a change?  Sure, Maybe!
>
> Kori is very energetic and very popular in the club..   He is a pretty
> smart guy.
> and would likely make a good president ..  Will he be willing to put as
> much into
> BVARC as Mike does..??
>
> Time will tell.
>
> Eddie (NU5K)
> it is our club, speak your mind..
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:17:45 PM CDT, anthony moro <
> w5li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have been thinking all day about this. I think this is a way of throwing
> mud during the elections. This is not fair to either side. So everyone
> knows I have left the board for this very sort of stuff. I think this club
> needs to stop being divided and think about what's best for the club.
> Acting like this about an event the club president allowed to happen is not
> what's best for the club. I think that we need to leave the name of the
> event alone and stop acting like everybody in the club doesn't drink at
> all. I say this and also tell y'all about my past. I was given probation
> for my third DWI. While on probation I found a great hobby, and all of yall
> have been great friends to me. I know that at least one person in the club
> has a few beers after work. There is nothing wrong with that. So saying
> that, we should leave this topic alone and think and look to the future of
> this club. If you feel the same way I feel then think real hard about what
> is really going on in the club and see how we as a club can pull together
> and put an end to this click kind of behavior. We should work together, not
> against each other. Just like some of yall dont get up for the 6:30am
> breakfast or leave work to go to the Lunch Bunch do the same with this
> event. If you don't have the time and would like to be with the family
> instead then don't go and keep your comments about an event the club
> president allowed to yourself. I am appalled with the behavior of some
> people that chose to act this way. I know yall are better than this. Now
> let's get back to having fun in this hobby as one of the largest clubs in
> texas, and show people what being a great HAM is about. If you have any
> questions or comments about what I said in this email, please email me
> directly. I am willing to talk to yall about how I feel about how the club
> members are acting about an event that has been going on for almost a year
> now. Also remember the club president allowed this event after talking to
> Kori the vice president before he became vice president.
>
> I am sorry if this sounded like I am venting. But I am just tired of all
> the mud slinging in the club.
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 1:22 PM Eddie Runner via BVARC 
> wrote:
>
> You guys are finally paying attention!!
> I enjoyed  the BwBvarc the couple of times I went (fellowship), even
> though
> I am not a drinker...
>
>
> I complained when we started advertising it on the website as a BVARC
> sanctioned event...
>
> Being that we have always tried to put forward a welcoming face and tried
> to attract young
> folks and even children 

Re: [BVARC] Brews with BVARC this Tuesday!

[Eddie Runner via BVARC]

 MY post isnt political and has nothing to do with elections, my concern was 
the appearance of the website...
I wasnt mudslinging, I didnt even mention anyones name..I didnt see anyone 
mentioning names till you mentioned Mikes
You (Anthony) mentioned our president about 3 times..  (that is mud slinging)
Why did you drop from the board when there is only a couple of months lefton 
your board of directors term...   Your my buddy, I would do anything for youbut 
I am calling you a cry baby.. probably related to Kori running against Mike.
I guess  your buddy Kori is running against Mike for president this term..
Mike has been a pretty damn good president for a very long time, he hasalways 
been there for our club when no one else has been..  When no one elsewill, 
Mikey is always there..  Club is huge, money in the bank, food at 
meetings,amazing hamfest,  thank you Mike 
Time for a change?  Sure, Maybe! 
Kori is very energetic and very popular in the club..   He is a pretty smart 
guy.and would likely make a good president ..  Will he be willing to put as 
much intoBVARC as Mike does..??   
Time will tell.
Eddie (NU5K)it is our club, speak your mind..   


On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 08:17:45 PM CDT, anthony moro 
 wrote:  
 
 I have been thinking all day about this. I think this is a way of throwing mud 
during the elections. This is not fair to either side. So everyone knows I have 
left the board for this very sort of stuff. I think this club needs to stop 
being divided and think about what's best for the club. Acting like this about 
an event the club president allowed to happen is not what's best for the club. 
I think that we need to leave the name of the event alone and stop acting like 
everybody in the club doesn't drink at all. I say this and also tell y'all 
about my past. I was given probation for my third DWI. While on probation I 
found a great hobby, and all of yall have been great friends to me. I know that 
at least one person in the club has a few beers after work. There is nothing 
wrong with that. So saying that, we should leave this topic alone and think and 
look to the future of this club. If you feel the same way I feel then think 
real hard about what is really going on in the club and see how we as a club 
can pull together and put an end to this click kind of behavior. We should work 
together, not against each other. Just like some of yall dont get up for the 
6:30am breakfast or leave work to go to the Lunch Bunch do the same with this 
event. If you don't have the time and would like to be with the family instead 
then don't go and keep your comments about an event the club president allowed 
to yourself. I am appalled with the behavior of some people that chose to act 
this way. I know yall are better than this. Now let's get back to having fun in 
this hobby as one of the largest clubs in texas, and show people what being a 
great HAM is about. If you have any questions or comments about what I said in 
this email, please email me directly. I am willing to talk to yall about how I 
feel about how the club members are acting about an event that has been going 
on for almost a year now. Also remember the club president allowed this event 
after talking to Kori the vice president before he became vice president. 
I am sorry if this sounded like I am venting. But I am just tired of all the 
mud slinging in the club.
On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 1:22 PM Eddie Runner via BVARC  wrote:

 You guys are finally paying attention!!  I enjoyed  the BwBvarc the couple of 
times I went (fellowship), even though I am not a drinker...

I complained when we started advertising it on the website as a BVARC 
sanctioned event...
Being that we have always tried to put forward a welcoming face and tried to 
attract youngfolks and even children and parents to our club...  
No one paid any attention to me back then.
PLUS, I am sure some of our members have or have had problems with 
boozeSome have had DUIs, some are recovering...!  
Some of you know my son,he has been a ham (since 10 years old) and is now 
43yrs.. He has been an addictfor many years..  Although I like to share with 
him ham radio things, like the hamfest  and so on.I would be afraid to even 
mention BwBVARC to him.  
I didn't go, but someone mentioned to me that the LAST BwBVARC had CBD 
beerswhich were noted with warnings that they could affect the outcome of a 
drug test.   
Glad you guys are finally paying attention!!
Eddie Runner (NU5K)



On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 01:06:47 PM CDT, JP Pritchard via BVARC 
 wrote:  
 
   Even if the club turns out to be protected from legal liability, I'm not 
sure we want our club name to be associated with a possible DUI traffic 
tragedy. Just a thought.        JP, K5JPP  
  On 10/09/2023 12:48 PM CDT Rick Hiller via BVARC  wrote:     
     The promoted title “Brews with BVARC” leans toward making it a de facto, 
sanctioned event, and this doesn't sit well with some folks.