[BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread McClure, Rob K via BVARC
Hello all,

I think I may have the dumb question of the day.

Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if the 
RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?

We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo attached 
to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  Needless to say, the 
server with this RS232 port is beyond end of life. Can I use a RS232 to USB 
setup to connect this gizmo to a new server using a USB port.

On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 is on 
the box/gadget/gizmo, that's why I asked if these RS232 to USB convertors are 
bidirectional.

Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI 
chipset here in town?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Rob McClure
IT Analyst
Cameron


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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread McClure, Rob K via BVARC
Thanks for the reply Jonathan!

73, Rob, KC5RET

Regards,

Rob McClure
IT Analyst
Cameron

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Yes, USB to RS-232 converters are bidirectional.

On 8/21/2015 9:12 AM, McClure, Rob K via BVARC wrote:
Hello all,

I think I may have the dumb question of the day.

Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if the 
RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?

We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo attached 
to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  Needless to say, the 
server with this RS232 port is beyond end of life. Can I use a RS232 to USB 
setup to connect this gizmo to a new server using a USB port.

On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 is on 
the box/gadget/gizmo, that's why I asked if these RS232 to USB convertors are 
bidirectional.

Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI 
chipset here in town?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Rob McClure
IT Analyst
Cameron


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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread GMuller885--- via BVARC
Rob:
 I use on two on my radio. one is for freq and one  is for the rotor. 
They are made by Tripplite and the model number is 19HS. They  can be ordered 
from Walmart on line.
 
Gerald Muller K9GEM
gmuller...@aol.com  

 
In a message dated 8/21/2015 9:12:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bvarc@bvarc.org writes:

 
Hello all, 
I think I may have the dumb question of the  day. 
Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or  everyone know if 
the RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional? 
We have an issue at work where there is some sort of  box/gadget/gizmo 
attached to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?)  cable.  Needless to 
say, the server with this RS232 port is beyond end of  life. Can I use a RS232 
to USB setup to connect this gizmo to a new server  using a USB port. 
On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong,  and the RS232 is 
on the box/gadget/gizmo, that’s why I asked if these RS232 to  USB 
convertors are bidirectional. 
Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to  USB with the FTDI 
chipset here in town? 
Thanks in advance. 
Regards, 
Rob McClure 
IT Analyst 
Cameron 

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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread Rick Hiller via BVARC
Directron  10402 Harwin Drive  77036   just east of the west SH tollway.

 

http://search.directron.com/newsearch.php?find=usb+to+rs232

 

both the Prolific and the FTDI chipset adapters.

 

R

   

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The second half of his question Last, does anyone know a source in town for 
the RS232 to USB with the FTDI chipset here in town? is very important to me, 
also. I have yet to find a reliable source for the cable converter. Anyone with 
a suggestion?

 

 

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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread Jonathan Guthrie via BVARC

Yes, USB to RS-232 converters are bidirectional.

On 8/21/2015 9:12 AM, McClure, Rob K via BVARC wrote:


Hello all,

I think I may have the dumb question of the day.

Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know 
if the RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?


We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo 
attached to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  
Needless to say, the server with this RS232 port is beyond end of 
life. Can I use a RS232 to USB setup to connect this gizmo to a new 
server using a USB port.


On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 
is on the box/gadget/gizmo, that’s why I asked if these RS232 to USB 
convertors are bidirectional.


Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the 
FTDI chipset here in town?


Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Rob McClure

IT Analyst

Cameron

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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread K5HM via BVARC
Jim,

I use  Valley Enterprises. Have been for the last couple years. 

http://www.valley-ent.com/catalog/computer/usb-c-22_23.html 

 

They make 4 different types all with the FTDI chipset. 

 

73,

Ron, K5HM

 mailto:k5hm@gmail.com k5hm@gmail.com

 http://www.qrz.com/db/k5hm www.qrz.com/db/k5hm



Excelsior!

 

From: BVARC [mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org] On Behalf Of James Burrough via 
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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:00 AM
To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB bvarc@bvarc.org
Cc: James Burrough jandpburro...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

 

The second half of his question Last, does anyone know a source in town for 
the RS232 to USB with the FTDI chipset here in town? is very important to me, 
also. I have yet to find a reliable source for the cable converter. Anyone with 
a suggestion?

 

 

On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:32 AM, GMuller885--- via BVARC bvarc@bvarc.org 
mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org  wrote:

 

Rob:

 I use on two on my radio. one is for freq and one is for the rotor. They 
are made by Tripplite and the model number is 19HS. They can be ordered from 
Walmart on line.

 

Gerald Muller K9GEM
gmuller...@aol.com mailto:gmuller...@aol.com  

 

In a message dated 8/21/2015 9:12:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
bvarc@bvarc.org mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org  writes:

Hello all,

 

I think I may have the dumb question of the day.

 

Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if the 
RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?

 

We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo attached 
to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  Needless to say, the 
server with this RS232 port is beyond end of life. Can I use a RS232 to USB 
setup to connect this gizmo to a new server using a USB port.

 

On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 is on 
the box/gadget/gizmo, that’s why I asked if these RS232 to USB convertors are 
bidirectional.

 

Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI 
chipset here in town?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards,

 

Rob McClure

IT Analyst

Cameron

 

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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread James Burrough via BVARC
The second half of his question Last, does anyone know a source in town for 
the RS232 to USB with the FTDI chipset here in town? is very important to me, 
also. I have yet to find a reliable source for the cable converter. Anyone with 
a suggestion? 


 On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:32 AM, GMuller885--- via BVARC 
bvarc@bvarc.org wrote:
   

  Rob: I use on two on my radio. one is for freq and one is for the rotor. 
They are made by Tripplite and the model number is 19HS. They can be ordered 
from Walmart on line. Gerald Muller K9GEM
gmuller...@aol.com  In a message dated 8/21/2015 9:12:22 A.M. Central Daylight 
Time, bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
  Hello all,    I think I may have the dumb question of the day.    Does anyone 
(or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if the RS232 to USB 
convertors are bidirectional?    We have an issue at work where there is some 
sort of box/gadget/gizmo attached to one of our older servers via an RS232 
(DB9?) cable.  Needless to say, the server with this RS232 port is beyond end 
of life. Can I use a RS232 to USB setup to connect this gizmo to a new server 
using a USB port.    On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, 
and the RS232 is on the box/gadget/gizmo, that’s why I asked if these RS232 to 
USB convertors are bidirectional.    Last, does anyone know a source in town 
for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI chipset here in town?    Thanks in advance.  
  Regards,    Rob McClure IT Analyst Cameron    
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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread K5HM via BVARC
Funny. I bought a new PC from them recently but neverthought of them for little 
parts.  Thanks for the tip.

 

73,

Ron, K5HM

 mailto:k5hm@gmail.com k5hm@gmail.com

 http://www.qrz.com/db/k5hm www.qrz.com/db/k5hm



Excelsior!

 

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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

 

Directron  10402 Harwin Drive  77036   just east of the west SH tollway.

 

http://search.directron.com/newsearch.php?find=usb+to+rs232

 

both the Prolific and the FTDI chipset adapters.

 

R

   

Subject: Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

 

The second half of his question Last, does anyone know a source in town for 
the RS232 to USB with the FTDI chipset here in town? is very important to me, 
also. I have yet to find a reliable source for the cable converter. Anyone with 
a suggestion?

 

 

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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread EMD Cebridge via BVARC
All USB to RS 232 adapters are not the same, I have 4 and one will work on
one application that the other won't. I use adapters from www.rs285.com
http://www.rs285.com/  for critical applications. The tech support from
them is great. Robert 
 
  _  

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Subject: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day
 
Hello all,
 
I think I may have the dumb question of the day.
 
Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if
the RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?
 
We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo
attached to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  Needless to
say, the server with this RS232 port is beyond end of life. Can I use a
RS232 to USB setup to connect this gizmo to a new server using a USB port.
 
On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 is on
the box/gadget/gizmo, that's why I asked if these RS232 to USB convertors
are bidirectional.
 
Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI
chipset here in town?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Regards,
 
Rob McClure
IT Analyst
Cameron
 
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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread McClure, Rob K via BVARC
Hello Jon,

Right now they are in wait mode. But I will pass this along. The biggest 
restriction is that since this is NOT an emergency, we have to order whatever 
we need from CDW, and that’s usually over priced. I’ll get called in on this 
again if the one they buy does not work.

I had no idea these things didn’t all work the same.

Regards,

Rob McClure
IT Analyst
Cameron

From: BVARC [mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org] On Behalf Of Jon Noxon via BVARC
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Rob,

You have received a lot of information but since no one else has brought it 
up...

RS-232 originally defined both levels and various signal pins. Most USB to 
RS-232 converters do not have all of the other signals. They will have Tx and 
Rx, but if your gizmo needs the other signals for flow control, such as 
RTS/CTS, DTR etc, you may not get by with a USB-to-serial converter.

Jon KF5TFJ

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On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, McClure, Rob K via BVARC 
bvarc@bvarc.orgmailto:bvarc@bvarc.org wrote:
Hello all,

I think I may have the dumb question of the day.

Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if the 
RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?

We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo attached 
to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  Needless to say, the 
server with this RS232 port is beyond end of life. Can I use a RS232 to USB 
setup to connect this gizmo to a new server using a USB port.

On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 is on 
the box/gadget/gizmo, that’s why I asked if these RS232 to USB convertors are 
bidirectional.

Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI 
chipset here in town?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Rob McClure
IT Analyst
Cameron


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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread gmuller885 via BVARC


Rob  The info i provided is a fully loaded rs232 to usb connection


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Rob,
You have received a lot of information but since no one else has brought it 
up...
RS-232 originally defined both levels and various signal pins. Most USB to 
RS-232 converters do not have all of the other signals. They will have Tx and 
Rx, but if your gizmo needs the other signals for flow control, such as 
RTS/CTS, DTR etc, you may not get by with a USB-to-serial converter.

Jon KF5TFJ
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Hello all,
 
I think I may have the dumb question of the day.
 
Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if the 
RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?
 
We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo attached 
to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  Needless to say, the 
server with this RS232 port is beyond end of life. Can I use a RS232 to USB 
setup
 to connect this gizmo to a new server using a USB port.
 
On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 is on 
the box/gadget/gizmo, that’s why I asked if these RS232 to USB convertors are 
bidirectional.
 
Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI 
chipset here in town?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Regards,
 
Rob McClure
IT Analyst
Cameron
 

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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread Jon Noxon via BVARC
Rob,

You have received a lot of information but since no one else has brought it 
up...

RS-232 originally defined both levels and various signal pins. Most USB to 
RS-232 converters do not have all of the other signals. They will have Tx and 
Rx, but if your gizmo needs the other signals for flow control, such as 
RTS/CTS, DTR etc, you may not get by with a USB-to-serial converter.

Jon KF5TFJ

Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, McClure, Rob K via BVARC bvarc@bvarc.org wrote:
 
 Hello all,
  
 I think I may have the dumb question of the day.
  
 Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if the 
 RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?
  
 We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo 
 attached to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  Needless to 
 say, the server with this RS232 port is beyond end of life. Can I use a RS232 
 to USB setup to connect this gizmo to a new server using a USB port.
  
 On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 is on 
 the box/gadget/gizmo, that’s why I asked if these RS232 to USB convertors are 
 bidirectional.
  
 Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI 
 chipset here in town?
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 Regards,
  
 Rob McClure
 IT Analyst
 Cameron
  
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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread Scott Royall via BVARC
On a unrelated topic, my stepfather retired from Cameron.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:24 PM, McClure, Rob K via BVARC bvarc@bvarc.org
wrote:

 Hello Jon,



 Right now they are in wait mode. But I will pass this along. The biggest
 restriction is that since this is NOT an emergency, we have to order
 whatever we need from CDW, and that’s usually over priced. I’ll get called
 in on this again if the one they buy does not work.



 I had no idea these things didn’t all work the same.



 Regards,



 Rob McClure

 IT Analyst

 Cameron



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 *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day



 Rob,



 You have received a lot of information but since no one else has brought
 it up...



 RS-232 originally defined both levels and various signal pins. Most USB to
 RS-232 converters do not have all of the other signals. They will have Tx
 and Rx, but if your gizmo needs the other signals for flow control, such as
 RTS/CTS, DTR etc, you may not get by with a USB-to-serial converter.

 Jon KF5TFJ


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 On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, McClure, Rob K via BVARC bvarc@bvarc.org
 wrote:

 Hello all,



 I think I may have the dumb question of the day.



 Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if
 the RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?



 We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo
 attached to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  Needless
 to say, the server with this RS232 port is beyond end of life. Can I use a
 RS232 to USB setup to connect this gizmo to a new server using a USB port.



 On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 is
 on the box/gadget/gizmo, that’s why I asked if these RS232 to USB
 convertors are bidirectional.



 Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI
 chipset here in town?



 Thanks in advance.



 Regards,



 Rob McClure

 IT Analyst

 Cameron



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Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day

2015-08-21 Thread Jon Noxon via BVARC
Gerry, 

I own and use a Keyspan USA-19HS (now Triplite) and it indeed is a great 
product, but it only has  9 pins whereas the original spec is a 15 pin 
connector (DB style). Without changing the model number, the parts inside the  
USA-19HS have changed a few times. They have great support for all common 
operating systems and update drivers as needed to cover Microsoft's flavor of 
the day.

http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/cable/RS-232.html#pins has a good description of 
the protocol. Having said that, most stuff today can be configured for Xon Xoff 
and work with only 3 wires (Tx, Rx and ground). That's true for CAT control on 
our K3's and most modern radios. In fact Elecraft uses the other pins for 
non-RS-232 purposes.

We need more info on the gizmo!

Jon




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 On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:34 PM, gmuller885 via BVARC bvarc@bvarc.org wrote:
 
 Rob
   The info i provided is a fully loaded rs232 to usb connection
 
 
 
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  Original message 
 From: Jon Noxon via BVARC bvarc@bvarc.org 
 Date: 8/21/2015 12:52 PM (GMT-06:00) 
 To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB bvarc@bvarc.org 
 Cc: Jon Noxon j...@noxon.cc 
 Subject: Re: [BVARC] Dumb question of the day 
 
 Rob,
 
 You have received a lot of information but since no one else has brought it 
 up...
 
 RS-232 originally defined both levels and various signal pins. Most USB to 
 RS-232 converters do not have all of the other signals. They will have Tx and 
 Rx, but if your gizmo needs the other signals for flow control, such as 
 RTS/CTS, DTR etc, you may not get by with a USB-to-serial converter.
 
 Jon KF5TFJ
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, McClure, Rob K via BVARC bvarc@bvarc.org 
 wrote:
 
 Hello all,
  
 I think I may have the dumb question of the day.
  
 Does anyone (or in the case of the BVARC brain trust) or everyone know if 
 the RS232 to USB convertors are bidirectional?
  
 We have an issue at work where there is some sort of box/gadget/gizmo 
 attached to one of our older servers via an RS232 (DB9?) cable.  Needless to 
 say, the server with this RS232 port is beyond end of life. Can I use a 
 RS232 to USB setup to connect this gizmo to a new server using a USB port.
  
 On the slight chance that the site coordinator is wrong, and the RS232 is on 
 the box/gadget/gizmo, that’s why I asked if these RS232 to USB convertors 
 are bidirectional.
  
 Last, does anyone know a source in town for the RS232 to USB with the FTDI 
 chipset here in town?
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 Regards,
  
 Rob McClure
 IT Analyst
 Cameron
  
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