Question about nested folders..

2005-03-17 Thread Joseph Silverman
Can uw Imap (c-client) create nested folders?  How do I do this?
I read, somewhere, that this required using the .mbx format for 
mailboxes.  So I recompiled imapd changing the default format to mbx.  
After some unpleasant experiences trying to get tmail to work with 
sendmail (can't figure out how to do it in sendmail.mc so did it 
directly in sendmail.cf - and, tmail has to be in /usr/bin (or the 
like) and can't be in /home/USER/..)  Anyway, after doing all this, and 
successfully sending mail into sendmail which gets deposited in an 
INBOX in the user's directory, I still can get my client to create 
sub-folders that aren't at the top level.  Is this possible?

Thanks for your help - Yossie
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followup on email about nested directories..

2005-03-17 Thread Joseph Silverman
What I need to do, and am hoping that uw imap will do, is create 
subfolders within folders.  So, for example, I could create folder X 
that contains messages and then put folder Y into it.  I realize that 
both mbox and mbx formats are flat files and thus it seems UNLIKELY 
that this can be done.  However, I am asking, IS THERE A WAY that I can 
do this with ANY uw imap supported options?
THANKS - Joseph

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Re: followup on email about nested directories..

2005-03-17 Thread Mark Crispin
In order to create mailboxes within a mailbox, you need to use a mailbox 
format which supports this dual-use.

mbx format is not such a format; nor is traditional UNIX mailbox format.
The dual-use mailbox formats supported in the distribution version of 
c-client are mh, mx, and news.

Personally, I think that dual-use is a bad idea from a user interface 
point of view, since that means that for a name you have to have a 
separate open as mailbox and open as directory operation.  But this 
seems to be a matter of religion.

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Re: followup on email about nested directories..

2005-03-17 Thread Lars Hallberg
Mark Crispin wrote:
In order to create mailboxes within a mailbox, you need to use a 
mailbox format which supports this dual-use.

mbx format is not such a format; nor is traditional UNIX mailbox format.
That is doable. Just deside on a special mailbox name to be the folders 
'own' mailbox, let just call it mbox0 for now.

If You try to access a folder as a mailbox, open folder/mbox0.
If You try to access a mbox as a folder, just report it as empty.
If someone try to save to a folder that's an mbox, create an temp 
folder. Move the mbox ther as tmpfolder/mbox0, move tmpfolder to the 
original mbox name, then proceed with the save.

Will likly break other tools, but only if people actuly *us* the feature.
Personally, I think that dual-use is a bad idea from a user 
interface point of view, since that means that for a name you have to 
have a separate open as mailbox and open as directory operation. 
The ui isue is solwed long time ago. Standard 'treeview' with a + or 
arrow to expand a node, and some icon to select it.

But this seems to be a matter of religion.
Yeha, but I actuly have found a use for it. I sort mail in differnt 
folder, and for each folder mail older than one year in one folder for 
each year. Would clean up my folderlisting *allot* to make thes yearly 
folders subfolders to 'ther' mailbox. While keeping them in the same spot.

/LaH


Re: followup on email about nested directories..

2005-03-17 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Mark Crispin wrote:
In order to create mailboxes within a mailbox, you need to use a mailbox 
format which supports this dual-use.

mbx format is not such a format; nor is traditional UNIX mailbox format.
The dual-use mailbox formats supported in the distribution version of 
c-client are mh, mx, and news.
Additionaly to this, you are not very supportive of the mh format, so it 
can be considered half-supported (can I say it that way).

AFAIK Maildir supports what you want, there are add-on patches available, 
f.ex. here [1]. It seems to be actively maintained However I don't know 
how well it works.

*t
[1] http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/info/maildir.html
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