Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[JohnFreem]

Here! Here!

I contribute and use little I observe here, as I have gone on "emeritus 
status" after over 30 years of active calling.   Most issues here don't apple 
to me. There is very little music and dancing where I now live, although 
there are still some hard core folks. Our issue are mostly local. I am not a 
"center set" caller by choice. I am ready to jump in as needed, but others seem 
to enjoy doing this more than I do. Please leave things the way they are so 
that we may all continue to contribute or not as we choose.



John B. Freeman, SFTPOCTJ

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Donald Primrose]

Good morning,  Leave it the way it is..

Greater wisdom does not come from contributing to every topic that is
floated through this forum.

Sometimes a question is answered to death.. I see no reason to pile on
advice. Thus we are called "lurkers".

 "User Ranks" takes the community out of the forum.. and the dance.

The dance is a very critical part of our communities... what we contribute
to the dance is important... but no more so than every person in that hall.
Keep the forum open..

Happy to be a lurker..

Don Primrose
Nelson, NH





On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Lindsay Morris wrote:

> How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
> move to a web-based forum?
>
> One advantage I see is User Ranks: over time, we vote up certain people
> because they offer more wisdom.  That lets us give greater weight to their
> opinions, even though we may not personally know them.
>
> Here is a good discussion of email lists vs user
> forums<
> http://www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/2010-03/mailing-list-or-forum-theory
> >
> .
>
> And here is a one-question survey  >.
>
>
> I don't have a huge investment in this idea - just thought I would toss it
> out there. I'll give it a day or two then share the results with all.
>  Please vote.  Thanks.
>
> 
> Lindsay Morris
> CEO, TSMworks
> Tel. 1-859-539-9900
> lind...@tsmworks.com
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>



-- 
Don Primrose
Founder, Board Chair
Hundred Nights Inc.  Cold Weather Shelter and Open Doors Resource Center

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Michael Fuerst]

Lindsey suggested that we "give more weight to the opinions of especially 
respected folks."      A requirement of correct traditional allemande, in 
addition to (i)  a straight wrist, (ii) vertically aligned arm,  (ii) elbow and 
shoulder functioning as springs and (iv) and thumbs comfortably wrapped around 
each other, is giving EQUAL weight, no matter what respect or lack of respect 
for the person on the other side of the allemande.
 
Michael Fuerst      802 N Broadway      Urbana IL 61801   217-239-5844



On Friday, February 21, 2014 7:41 AM, Lindsay Morris  
wrote:
 
Today its 29 hate-the-idea, 7 like-it, 7 not sure.  I'll let it go.

Really, all I wanted was a way we could vote people up, so we could  give
more weight to the opinions of the especially respected folks here (and
filter the email flood down to just those people).

I wonder if there's any other way to do that?


Lindsay Morris
CEO, TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
lind...@tsmworks.com


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, John W Gintell wrote:
> >
> > A potential solution would be to replace it with a Google Group.
> > People can choose to receive messages via email (digest or not) or
> > view it as a group, or both.  An advantage is that if you want to
> > revisit a discussion it is easier.
>
> You can revisit discussions here using the archives.  And even before the
> Snowden revelations, I already avoided Google as much as possible.
>
> Honestly, it sounds like solutions in search of a problem.
> --
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> http://rule6.info/
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Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Laur]

Thanks Chris.  I agree.
 
Laurie
West MI



On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:57 PM, Chris Weiler (Home) 
 wrote:
 
This list will stay in it's current form. If someone wants to set up a 
competing web-based forum, then they are free to and then people could vote 
with their feet.
>
>Chris Weiler
>SharedWeight moderator
>Craftsbury, VT
>
>
>
>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Lindsay Morris  wrote:
>> 
>> How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
>> move to a web-based forum?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Jim Thaxter]

Could you explain what it means to "vote people up?"
It sounds like one would have to be "voted up" to be able to comment.
I'm not sure I would call any of the discussions I've read flooded.



On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Lindsay Morris wrote:

> Today its 29 hate-the-idea, 7 like-it, 7 not sure.  I'll let it go.
>
> Really, all I wanted was a way we could vote people up, so we could  give
> more weight to the opinions of the especially respected folks here (and
> filter the email flood down to just those people).
>
> I wonder if there's any other way to do that?
>
> 
> Lindsay Morris
> CEO, TSMworks
> Tel. 1-859-539-9900
> lind...@tsmworks.com
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, John W Gintell wrote:
> > >
> > > A potential solution would be to replace it with a Google Group.
> > > People can choose to receive messages via email (digest or not) or
> > > view it as a group, or both.  An advantage is that if you want to
> > > revisit a discussion it is easier.
> >
> > You can revisit discussions here using the archives.  And even before the
> > Snowden revelations, I already avoided Google as much as possible.
> >
> > Honestly, it sounds like solutions in search of a problem.
> > --
> > Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6
> > http://rule6.info/
> >   <*>   <*>   <*>
> > Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html
> > ___
> > Callers mailing list
> > call...@sharedweight.net
> > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
> >
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> call...@sharedweight.net
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>

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Lindsay Morris]

Today its 29 hate-the-idea, 7 like-it, 7 not sure.  I'll let it go.

Really, all I wanted was a way we could vote people up, so we could  give
more weight to the opinions of the especially respected folks here (and
filter the email flood down to just those people).

I wonder if there's any other way to do that?


Lindsay Morris
CEO, TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
lind...@tsmworks.com


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, John W Gintell wrote:
> >
> > A potential solution would be to replace it with a Google Group.
> > People can choose to receive messages via email (digest or not) or
> > view it as a group, or both.  An advantage is that if you want to
> > revisit a discussion it is easier.
>
> You can revisit discussions here using the archives.  And even before the
> Snowden revelations, I already avoided Google as much as possible.
>
> Honestly, it sounds like solutions in search of a problem.
> --
> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6
> http://rule6.info/
>   <*>   <*>   <*>
> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html
> ___
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> call...@sharedweight.net
> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
>

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Aahz Maruch]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, John W Gintell wrote:
>
> A potential solution would be to replace it with a Google Group.
> People can choose to receive messages via email (digest or not) or
> view it as a group, or both.  An advantage is that if you want to
> revisit a discussion it is easier.

You can revisit discussions here using the archives.  And even before the
Snowden revelations, I already avoided Google as much as possible.

Honestly, it sounds like solutions in search of a problem.
-- 
Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/
  <*>   <*>   <*>
Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[John W Gintell]

A potential solution would be to replace it with a Google Group.  People can 
choose to receive messages via email (digest or not) or view it as a group, or 
both.  An advantage is that if you want to revisit a discussion it is easier.

> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 13:21:42 -0800
> From: Aahz Maruch <a...@pobox.com>
> To: call...@sharedweight.net
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?
> Message-ID: <20140219212142.ga19...@panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, Bree Kalb wrote:
>> 
>> This feels like a good time to thank you, Chris, for setting up this
>> list. 
> 
> Ditto!
> -- 

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Aahz Maruch]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, Bree Kalb wrote:
>
> This feels like a good time to thank you, Chris, for setting up this
> list. 

Ditto!
-- 
Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/
  <*>   <*>   <*>
Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Joy Greenwolfe]

An email list is a "pull out format," that is, the info is pulled out of its 
source and comes into my inbox, rather than me having to go find it. Therefor, 
I prefer the email list as is. 

Joy Greenwolfe
Durham, NC

On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Lindsay Morris wrote:

> How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
> move to a web-based forum?
> 
> One advantage I see is User Ranks: over time, we vote up certain people
> because they offer more wisdom.  That lets us give greater weight to their
> opinions, even though we may not personally know them.
> 
> Here is a good discussion of email lists vs user
> forums
> .
> 
> And here is a one-question survey .
> 
> 
> I don't have a huge investment in this idea - just thought I would toss it
> out there. I'll give it a day or two then share the results with all.
> Please vote.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Lindsay Morris
> CEO, TSMworks
> Tel. 1-859-539-9900
> lind...@tsmworks.com
> ___
> Callers mailing list
> call...@sharedweight.net
> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Bree Kalb]

This feels like a good time to thank you, Chris, for setting up this list. 
Although it makes for tedious reading at times, it's mostly a great asset with 
good information and ideas. I don't comment much because someone usually says 
what I would have, but I keep learning here.

Bree Kalb
Carrboro, NC 

 Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Chris Weiler (Home) <
>chris.wei...@weirdtable.org> wrote:
>
>> This list will stay in it's current form. If someone wants to set up a
>> competing web-based forum, then they are free to and then people could vote
>> with their feet.
>>
>> Chris Weiler
>> SharedWeight moderator
>> Craftsbury, VT


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919-932-6262 ext 216
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Regarding the Use of Email -- Please Note: Although I use a firewall and my
computer is password protected, my emails are not encrypted. Therefore, I
cannot guarantee confidentiality of email communication. If you choose to
communicate confidential information with me via email, I will assume that
you have made an informed decision and I will view it as your agreement to
take the risk that email may be intercepted. Please be aware that email is
never an appropriate vehicle for emergency communication.  If you are 
canceling an appointment less than 48 hours in advance, please 
also leave me a voice mail message at my office.

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Lindsay Morris]

So far:
3 love it
3 like it
6 not sure
19 hate it
So it's a good thing I don't have much emotion invested in the idea.
Thanks, all who responded.


Lindsay Morris
CEO, TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
lind...@tsmworks.com


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Chris Weiler (Home) <
chris.wei...@weirdtable.org> wrote:

> This list will stay in it's current form. If someone wants to set up a
> competing web-based forum, then they are free to and then people could vote
> with their feet.
>
> Chris Weiler
> SharedWeight moderator
> Craftsbury, VT
>
>
> > On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Lindsay Morris 
> wrote:
> >
> > How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
> > move to a web-based forum?
> >
> >
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Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Chris Weiler (Home)]

This list will stay in it's current form. If someone wants to set up a 
competing web-based forum, then they are free to and then people could vote 
with their feet.

Chris Weiler
SharedWeight moderator
Craftsbury, VT


> On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Lindsay Morris  wrote:
> 
> How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
> move to a web-based forum?
> 
> 

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Rich Goss]

Completely agree.   I certainly appreciate the way the mods on sharedweight 
manage this list.   Thanks for setting it up.   

> On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Robert Livingston  wrote:
> 
> As it is,is great

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Aahz Maruch]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, Lindsay Morris wrote:
>
> Responses are coming in to the survey -
> will post results tomorrow.  You can vote
> here.

My suspicion is that the survey will be more biased toward the web forum
than replies to the list.  ;-)
-- 
Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/
  <*>   <*>   <*>
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those
who have not got it."  --Shaw

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Jim Thaxter]

Like the email list.


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Lindsay Morris wrote:

> How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
> move to a web-based forum?
>
> One advantage I see is User Ranks: over time, we vote up certain people
> because they offer more wisdom.  That lets us give greater weight to their
> opinions, even though we may not personally know them.
>
> Here is a good discussion of email lists vs user
> forums<
> http://www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/2010-03/mailing-list-or-forum-theory
> >
> .
>
> And here is a one-question survey  >.
>
>
> I don't have a huge investment in this idea - just thought I would toss it
> out there. I'll give it a day or two then share the results with all.
>  Please vote.  Thanks.
>
> 
> Lindsay Morris
> CEO, TSMworks
> Tel. 1-859-539-9900
> lind...@tsmworks.com
> ___
> Callers mailing list
> call...@sharedweight.net
> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
>

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Robert Livingston]

As it is,is great!





 From: "95s...@comcast.net" <95s...@comcast.net>
To: rich sbardella <richsbarde...@snet.net>; Caller's discussion list 
<call...@sharedweight.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?
 

I am for the web-based forum, because some topics generate too many e-mails I 
don't have time to read, and many of them I don't find very helpful..  - Steve 

- Original Message -

From: "rich sbardella" <richsbarde...@snet.net> 
To: "Caller's discussion list" <call...@sharedweight.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:30:53 AM 
Subject: Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list? 

I am for keeping things the way they are.  
Rich 
  

 
 From: Lindsay Morris <lind...@tsmworks.com> 
To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:22 AM 
Subject: [Callers] Forum vs email list? 
   

How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum 
move to a web-based forum? 

One advantage I see is User Ranks: over time, we vote up certain people 
because they offer more wisdom.  That lets us give greater weight to their 
opinions, even though we may not personally know them. 

Here is a good discussion of email lists vs user 
forums<http://www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/2010-03/mailing-list-or-forum-theory>
 
. 

And here is a one-question survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Y9GS3BK>. 


I don't have a huge investment in this idea - just thought I would toss it 
out there. I'll give it a day or two then share the results with all. 
Please vote.  Thanks. 

 
Lindsay Morris 
CEO, TSMworks 
Tel. 1-859-539-9900 
lind...@tsmworks.com 
___ 
Callers mailing list 
call...@sharedweight.net 
http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers 
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Callers mailing list 
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http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers 

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Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Lindsay Morris]

Responses are coming in to the survey -
will post results tomorrow.  You can vote
here.<https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Y9GS3BK>


Lindsay Morris
CEO, TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
lind...@tsmworks.com


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:38 AM, <95s...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I am for the web-based forum, because some topics generate too many
> e-mails I don't have time to read, and many of them I don't find very
> helpful..  - Steve
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "rich sbardella" <richsbarde...@snet.net>
> To: "Caller's discussion list" <call...@sharedweight.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:30:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?
>
> I am for keeping things the way they are.
> Rich
>
>
> 
>  From: Lindsay Morris <lind...@tsmworks.com>
> To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:22 AM
> Subject: [Callers] Forum vs email list?
>
>
> How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
> move to a web-based forum?
>
> One advantage I see is User Ranks: over time, we vote up certain people
> because they offer more wisdom.  That lets us give greater weight to their
> opinions, even though we may not personally know them.
>
> Here is a good discussion of email lists vs user
> forums<
> http://www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/2010-03/mailing-list-or-forum-theory
> >
> .
>
> And here is a one-question survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Y9GS3BK
> >.
>
>
> I don't have a huge investment in this idea - just thought I would toss it
> out there. I'll give it a day or two then share the results with all.
> Please vote.  Thanks.
>
> 
> Lindsay Morris
> CEO, TSMworks
> Tel. 1-859-539-9900
> lind...@tsmworks.com
> ___
> Callers mailing list
> call...@sharedweight.net
> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
> ___
> Callers mailing list
> call...@sharedweight.net
> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
>
> ___
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> call...@sharedweight.net
> http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
>

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Jeff Kaufman]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:38 AM,  <95s...@comcast.net> wrote:
> some topics generate too many e-mails I don't have time to read

One way to handle this is to use a mail client that supports "mute".
If you mute a thread you won't see any more of those messages but
you'll still see other messages that get sent to the list.

For example, in gmail you would click "More" and then "Mute".

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[95sg23]

I am for the web-based forum, because some topics generate too many e-mails I 
don't have time to read, and many of them I don't find very helpful..  - Steve 

- Original Message -

From: "rich sbardella" <richsbarde...@snet.net> 
To: "Caller's discussion list" <call...@sharedweight.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:30:53 AM 
Subject: Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list? 

I am for keeping things the way they are.  
Rich 
  

 
 From: Lindsay Morris <lind...@tsmworks.com> 
To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:22 AM 
Subject: [Callers] Forum vs email list? 
   

How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum 
move to a web-based forum? 

One advantage I see is User Ranks: over time, we vote up certain people 
because they offer more wisdom.  That lets us give greater weight to their 
opinions, even though we may not personally know them. 

Here is a good discussion of email lists vs user 
forums<http://www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/2010-03/mailing-list-or-forum-theory>
 
. 

And here is a one-question survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Y9GS3BK>. 


I don't have a huge investment in this idea - just thought I would toss it 
out there. I'll give it a day or two then share the results with all. 
Please vote.  Thanks. 

 
Lindsay Morris 
CEO, TSMworks 
Tel. 1-859-539-9900 
lind...@tsmworks.com 
___ 
Callers mailing list 
call...@sharedweight.net 
http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers 
___ 
Callers mailing list 
call...@sharedweight.net 
http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers 

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[rich sbardella]

I am for keeping things the way they are.  
Rich
 


 From: Lindsay Morris <lind...@tsmworks.com>
To: Caller's discussion list <call...@sharedweight.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:22 AM
Subject: [Callers] Forum vs email list?
  

How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
move to a web-based forum?

One advantage I see is User Ranks: over time, we vote up certain people
because they offer more wisdom.  That lets us give greater weight to their
opinions, even though we may not personally know them.

Here is a good discussion of email lists vs user
forums<http://www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/2010-03/mailing-list-or-forum-theory>
.

And here is a one-question survey <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Y9GS3BK>.


I don't have a huge investment in this idea - just thought I would toss it
out there. I'll give it a day or two then share the results with all.
Please vote.  Thanks.


Lindsay Morris
CEO, TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
lind...@tsmworks.com
___
Callers mailing list
call...@sharedweight.net
http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers

Re: [Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Aahz Maruch]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014, Lindsay Morris wrote:
>
> How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
> move to a web-based forum?

Not at all willing.  If this list does move to a web forum, I'll
volunteer space to keep it running as e-mail.
-- 
Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/
  <*>   <*>   <*>
Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html

[Callers] Forum vs email list?

[Lindsay Morris]

How many of us (you lurkers included) would be willing to see this forum
move to a web-based forum?

One advantage I see is User Ranks: over time, we vote up certain people
because they offer more wisdom.  That lets us give greater weight to their
opinions, even though we may not personally know them.

Here is a good discussion of email lists vs user
forums
. 

And here is a one-question survey .


I don't have a huge investment in this idea - just thought I would toss it
out there. I'll give it a day or two then share the results with all.
 Please vote.  Thanks.


Lindsay Morris
CEO, TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
lind...@tsmworks.com