Re: Mab: The tiny Markaby-alternative
2011/12/19 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com: 2011/12/19 Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com: The real question here is: Should it be a part of camping/mab.rb or the Mab-gem? I'm definitely for adding many features (indentation, attribute-validation, flow-validation), but not in Camping. The Camping implementation should just be enough to get you started. My suggestion would be to make it Markaby 2.0 (of course, once it's running and mostly backwards-compatible), keeping the old gem name, and to develop on a branch in markaby repo. I'm really not sure about keeping the name though. It feels kinda weird to just remove everything and start from scratch. I also don't think it's a good idea to duplicate functionality - a little stub with Camping, richer library elsewhere - just make it a dependency, like Isak says. Okay, no stubs. Either hard or soft dependency. ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
Re: Mab: The tiny Markaby-alternative
Do we want a brand new markaby-like thing to be the grand evolution of Why and Tim's initial creation, or do we want to stand out and say Hey world, we've made something like Markaby, but heaps better, in the way the Nokogiri clan have. I've changed my mind. I think it should have a new name. Why’s legacy serves only as a distraction, lets move on. I suggest for your consideration: Pagely — Jenna Fox On Tuesday, 20 December 2011 at 7:36 PM, Magnus Holm wrote: 2011/12/19 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com (mailto:matma@gmail.com): 2011/12/19 Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com (mailto:judo...@gmail.com): The real question here is: Should it be a part of camping/mab.rb or the Mab-gem? I'm definitely for adding many features (indentation, attribute-validation, flow-validation), but not in Camping. The Camping implementation should just be enough to get you started. My suggestion would be to make it Markaby 2.0 (of course, once it's running and mostly backwards-compatible), keeping the old gem name, and to develop on a branch in markaby repo. I'm really not sure about keeping the name though. It feels kinda weird to just remove everything and start from scratch. I also don't think it's a good idea to duplicate functionality - a little stub with Camping, richer library elsewhere - just make it a dependency, like Isak says. Okay, no stubs. Either hard or soft dependency. ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org (mailto:Camping-list@rubyforge.org) http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
Re: Mab: The tiny Markaby-alternative
2011/12/18 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com: I don't have time to look thru now, but it doesn't seem to support boolean attributes (e.g. `input checked:true` should render input checked=checked /)? I was very much missing this feature in old Markaby, and finally even wrote a patch, as you might remember[1]. That's actually supported. If an attribute is `true` it will use the attribute name as the value. (so checked: true is the same as checked: checked). Also, false and nil attributes won't be included. It'd probably be quite easy to add, and after all it was included in the latest 0.7.2 version. [1] https://github.com/markaby/markaby/commit/999c418e3c096d2007d18c0a118390bd07d40eb0 -- Matma Rex ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
Re: Mab: The tiny Markaby-alternative
Stick with the way we're doing it. I only use markaby when it's easier/prettier to use then HAML (quick one-line helpers and the like). Dave On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Magnus Holm judo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 21:34, Isak Andersson icepa...@lavabit.com wrote: My suggestion would be to make it Markaby 2.0 (of course, once it's running and mostly backwards-compatible), keeping the old gem name, and to develop on a branch in markaby repo. Yeah, we should more or less do a rewrite and make it properly open source. You are allowed to make something with the same name aren't you? I mean there is songs with the same names after all. So what we would have wouldn't exactly be Markaby but it would be used exactly like Markaby. We could make it smaller/faster and more up to date :) Just so everyone knows: Camping doesn't depend on Markaby today. It's only loaded when you actually try to use it. Would you suggest that we switch to a hard dependency on Markaby, or should we continue what we're doing today? ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list -- Dave ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
Re: Mab: The tiny Markaby-alternative
So then I'd have to remember it's the opposite of the way it's been? :P Dave On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com wrote: If no hard dependancies, can we switch it around so core camping is in a camping-seedling gem, and the regular camping gem is actually the one with all the omnibus? I always forget when setting up a new system and end up confused why camping isn't working — Jenna Fox On Tuesday, 20 December 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Everitt wrote: switch to a hard dependency on Markaby, or should we continue what we're doing today? no hard dependency, continue as today - DaveE ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list -- Dave ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
Re: Mab: The tiny Markaby-alternative
Nah I'd still just think I want camping! I'll install camping! but then it'd just work :P — Jenna Fox On Tuesday, 20 December 2011 at 1:15 PM, David Susco wrote: So then I'd have to remember it's the opposite of the way it's been? :P Dave On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Jenna Fox a...@creativepony.com (mailto:a...@creativepony.com) wrote: If no hard dependancies, can we switch it around so core camping is in a camping-seedling gem, and the regular camping gem is actually the one with all the omnibus? I always forget when setting up a new system and end up confused why camping isn't working — Jenna Fox On Tuesday, 20 December 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Everitt wrote: switch to a hard dependency on Markaby, or should we continue what we're doing today? no hard dependency, continue as today - DaveE ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org (mailto:Camping-list@rubyforge.org) http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org (mailto:Camping-list@rubyforge.org) http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list -- Dave ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org (mailto:Camping-list@rubyforge.org) http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
Mab: The tiny Markaby-alternative
https://github.com/camping/camping/pull/50 Right now it's completely inline in camping/mab.rb, but it should be fairy easy to create another Rubygem where we could implement for advanced features (indentation, AJAX-stuff, whatever). // Magnus Holm ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
Re: Mab: The tiny Markaby-alternative
I don't have time to look thru now, but it doesn't seem to support boolean attributes (e.g. `input checked:true` should render input checked=checked /)? I was very much missing this feature in old Markaby, and finally even wrote a patch, as you might remember[1]. It'd probably be quite easy to add, and after all it was included in the latest 0.7.2 version. [1] https://github.com/markaby/markaby/commit/999c418e3c096d2007d18c0a118390bd07d40eb0 -- Matma Rex ___ Camping-list mailing list Camping-list@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/camping-list
