Re: [Care2002-developers] Small inquiry on the state of installed Care2x around the world

[Lopo de Almeida - Care2x]

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2016-02-19 18:22 GMT+00:00 Claudio Torbinio :

> In this days I am developing a small version of clinic.
> Feel free to use my 2th level domain.
> Clinic.Mysalute.biz
>
> If required I will create the custom form to fill.
>
> This can be a new starting point for the Care2x project
>
> Just take a look give me feedback.
>
> Claudio
> Il 19/feb/2016 19:15, "Lopo de Almeida - Care2x" <
> humaneasy.car...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Dear all.
>>
>> We have been collecting data on installations of Care2x around the world
>> during all this years but we would like to put it all in one place and with
>> as much detail as possible.
>>
>> If you please can collaborate on this it would be great.
>> Its just a few questions and you don't take more than two minutes to
>> fulfil it.
>>
>> We would like to know about the use of Care2x in under development
>> projects, live installations, study projects, modified projects, dead
>> installations, whatever.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your cooperation.
>>
>>
>> With our best regards,
>> Lopo Lencastre de Almeida
>> --
>>   Care2x -  Integrated Healthcare Information System
>>   Licensed under GNU/GPL
>>   http://www.care2x.org
>>   mailto:lopo.alme...@care2x.org
>>   mailto:humaneasy.car...@gmail.com
>>
>>
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Small inquiry on the state of installed Care2x around the world

[Lopo de Almeida - Care2x]

Missed the link :D

It's at http://goo.gl/forms/dAo63ElstL

Thanks again.

Lopo

2016-02-19 18:14 GMT+00:00 Lopo de Almeida - Care2x <
humaneasy.car...@gmail.com>:

> Dear all.
>
> We have been collecting data on installations of Care2x around the world
> during all this years but we would like to put it all in one place and with
> as much detail as possible.
>
> If you please can collaborate on this it would be great.
> Its just a few questions and you don't take more than two minutes to
> fulfil it.
>
> We would like to know about the use of Care2x in under development
> projects, live installations, study projects, modified projects, dead
> installations, whatever.
>
> Thanks a lot for your cooperation.
>
>
> With our best regards,
> Lopo Lencastre de Almeida
> --
>   Care2x -  Integrated Healthcare Information System
>   Licensed under GNU/GPL
>   http://www.care2x.org
>   mailto:lopo.alme...@care2x.org
>   mailto:humaneasy.car...@gmail.com
>
>
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[Care2002-developers] Small inquiry on the state of installed Care2x around the world

[Lopo de Almeida - Care2x]

Dear all.

We have been collecting data on installations of Care2x around the world
during all this years but we would like to put it all in one place and with
as much detail as possible.

If you please can collaborate on this it would be great.
Its just a few questions and you don't take more than two minutes to fulfil
it.

We would like to know about the use of Care2x in under development
projects, live installations, study projects, modified projects, dead
installations, whatever.

Thanks a lot for your cooperation.


With our best regards,
Lopo Lencastre de Almeida
--
  Care2x -  Integrated Healthcare Information System
  Licensed under GNU/GPL
  http://www.care2x.org
  mailto:lopo.alme...@care2x.org
  mailto:humaneasy.car...@gmail.com
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 28, Issue 2

[Lopo de Almeida - Care2x]

Hi,

I replied in your blog post at
http://care2x.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/another-gpl-infringement/

1,
Lopo

"Gjergj Sheldija" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Elpidio,
>
>i found the presentation by hasard, in a presentation given by
>the swedish ministry of health in albania.
>
>no, actually they never said thanks...
>
>i've started thinking that maybe things have to change a bit...
>
>regards
>gjergji
>
>Elpidio Latorilla wrote:
>> Hi Gjergji
>>
>> thanks for the post, the blog is looking good and useful.
>>
>> I was surprised to see the care2x templates shown on the ppt
>> presentation !!
>>
>> Do you have some more info about this TakeCare??
>>
>> It is funny that those people never even bothered to say thank you to
>> the group, isn"t it?
>> Or did we miss some things?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Elpidio
>>
>>
>> On 8/6/08, *Gjergj Sheldija*
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 25, Issue 4

[Lopo de Almeida - Care2x]

Hi,

Take a look at http://www.wordpressfreelance.com/ and
http://www.drupaljob.com/ and http://drupalancers.com/

Best,
Lopo

Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 06:40:06 -0400
> From: "Elpidio Latorilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] How client and developers could
>find each   other
> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Mauri,
>
> this is a very good idea. I think it will work. Please keep us posted about
> the
> developments.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Elpidio
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:27 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Everybody,
> >
> > Yesterday I looked for developers to our project and got a couple of
> > replies. We looked for
> > onsite developers but we could work also through internet in many tasks.
> >  When developer
> > and client do not know each other the trust may be a problem and I
>  started
> > to think how this
> > could be solved. Solution could be eBay like system..
> >
> > If the work is publicly offered in this channel it can be verified in
> > online demo when it is
> > finnished. The client will pay what was aggreed after it is done (the
> > payment amount need not
> > to be public). The reputation of developer and client are the only force
> > that will make them
> > follow their oblications. The project can be split in tasks and if the
> > tasks are small enough the
> > risk is not too big to developer or client.
> >
> > This kind of system might attract more developers and also clients to use
> > Care2x when they
> > have a better way to get support in their project. I have seen during the
> > years we have
> > worked in our project that it is really difficult to find volunteers, but
> > this may be the way to
> > energize the community. It could be like change from amateur to
> > professional in sports.
> >
> > What do you think about my idea?
> >
> > Mauri Niemi
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Re: [Care2002-developers] Framework?

[Lopo de Almeida - Care2x]

Hi

Claudio et al.

«As I can see, as part of the project, is that we are talking over the same
stuffs, still feb 2007» - Claudio

No! You're wrong. We are talking about the same stuff since 2003. At least I
am.

Also, I disagree with this the way I understood it:

«The problem with a Framework, as I see it, is that you will have to do it
all, i.e create the CORE, the plugin API, etc. This will be just exchange
Care2x existing framework by a more consistent framework. It will not speed
the development and will not have the specific community around.»

The CORE (module) should be minimal and very similar to what you can see
done with Drupal's Organic Groups. Also, if using Drupal as the base system
most of the API is already done, Ajax is part of the system, load balancing
is also part of the system, inteligent caching is also part of the system,
workflow is also part of the system, i18n and l10n idem, usability ibidem, etc,
etc, etc .

Related to the second part of the above text I do agree with the person who
said it.

But I still think that the decision model and the legal structure is the
issue here and not the coding part.

« Take a look at Typo3 and Drupal associations for instance. But there
are many other legal
   models to consider.

   I could not explain how they are doing it. But actually it is always
nice to read. J

I know both Drupal Association and Typo3 Association :)»

This are examples of how the diferent teams look at the code:

CARE 2X Integrated Information System for Hospitals and Health Care
Organizations and Services


Care 2002, Care2x, Copyright (C) 2002,2003,2004,2005,2006  Elpidio Latorilla

All Drupal code is Copyright 2001 - 2008 by the original authors.
Drupal is a registered trademark of Dries Buytaert.

http://association.typo3.org/about/t3a-faq/

Those are three diferent legal and decision models.
Those are the ones that make things real move on or not.

In common the last two have a collegiate decision model and a association
type legal structure and they know that to push a project from a certain
point forward funds and a legal entity are required.
The first one doesn't think that this is needed for quite a long time.

«Please decide somethink» - Claudio

Your question is wrongly done.
Although we* are the "project administrators" in reality you should have
said: «Elpídio, decide something» since he his the only one that decides
stuff on the project, as you well know.

I'm still waiting for an answer to a question I made to Elpidio regarding
the new website.

I started a discussion just with the other "admins" sometime ago about all
this stuff and only Robert really replied. Nothing result on this
"discussion".

I'm not quiting Care2x but my current position regarding it is:

   1. I will still help it as much as I can -- giving ideas, promoting it
   and so forth -- but without any coding efforts hence I don't agree with the
   direction it goes for too much time now;
   2. If I get funds to work on the project I will start porting Care2x
   to Care3G based on the model and concept I discussed with several people
   already, i.e. "Everything is a module". And Drupal will be the
   framework choosen hence I don't want or need to code everything from
   scratch;
   3. If we get a concensus on the legal and decision model to support
   Care2x/3G development I'll also pass the copyright of my work to that
   structure.

Have a nice weekend.

Best regards,
Lopo

Note *: Claudio G. Torbinio, Kaloyan Raev, Elpidio Latorilla, Noel Villamor,
Robert Meggle and me


Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:11:29 +0100
> From: "Dott Claudio G. Torbinio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Framework?
> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: noel villamor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,   Elpidio Latorilla
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  Robert Meggle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >,
> Kaloyan Raev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi carers
> As i can see, as part of the project, is that we are talking over the
> same stuffs, still feb 2007
> The same talking, te same FW talking, the same CMS talking...
> There is somethink does not work. In one year i can rewrite code, port
> the project, make 1000 more activityes
> But only talk about... is a poor result.
> Now someone can agree with me how hard is decide...
> By my side i can agree or not with decision, but i am always, still,
> ever hard working.
> Please decide somethink
> BR
> Claudio G. Torbinio
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just the links for the projects I mentioned earlier:
> >
> > Managing News: http://www.managingnews.com/ (the site is working)
> > Drigg: http://www.drigg-code.org (and FSDaily.com)
> >
> > Another project that is/was made with Drupal as its base is
> > http://www.lulu.com/.
> > Today it uses more things like Ruby and Python and I don't know if
> > they steak with Drupal but...