Re: [Care2002-developers] SVN 6929-6930
The SimpleInvoices.org project uses the PDO in it's beta code for nearly 2 years now. Hi Antanas, Am Freitag, den 19.11.2010, 10:00 + schrieb J. Antas: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:14:46 +0100, Robert Meggle meg...@merotech.de wrote: Gjergj suggested in follow up versions of care2x to change adodb with ORM like doctrine. Although ORM is generally a good approach, PDO (as in PHP Data Objects) is so much simple to implement and, for practical purposes, as much powerful as ORM. First of all: I totally agree. I see the benefit, I see the big thing in having OOP based ORM's - and I do know the lack of it. So I have a bit mixed feelings about that. That does not mean that I am right or does I have a fixed idea on that at all. My doubts about ORM is having not that huge community like having in SQL based database layers. Maybe we might have also the lack of having limited ways of debugging. In my latest projects I used ORMs and was happy about that all, really. But in detail it was a big headache. For an simple step, what might needed some minutes in SQL, I spend one day. Based on the simple issue that the ORM does not had this element. This will definitely not a non flexible usage in my posting right now. It is just the usage that when we go for it, it must be tested carefully by the developers who are in the code to see early if the selected ORM can handle the need what we have. But be sure that we will test it out and will make public here the ideas coming out of the backend-developer's corner and many thanks a lot for your pdo link - we will also follow this idea. The first view sounds great! :) Robert -- -- CARE2X - free Integ Hospital Info System https://sourceforge.net/projects/care2002/ http://www.care2x.org -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] SVN 6929-6930
Hi Muthu, You're absolutely right. I installed this trunk on a test server and I got an message that pear.php was missing (adodb error message). I looked to the repository and the folder pear was empty - just crypt folder exists. pear is also a folder in adodb and I had to test out why it is there or not. So I added pear again and tested again - the easiest way was to commit the files and I had no change. I am still exploring that issue and just droped out the files, it was not the issue. Any standard installation of apache comes with --with-pear and in that case there is no issue with adodb. If that flag is not given, adodb comes with the message that pear is missing. All in all it seems to be an adodb issue and I will look that this issue might be fixed with next version of adodb. Gjergj suggested in follow up versions of care2x to change adodb with ORM like doctrine. Well... there are more changes coming by next year and you are also right in your point that there should be only one trunk. We are using current trunk now to find out fixes what comes out of test and evaluation period. So like the radiology update I posted here some days before. When we have a couple of fixes we will serve then a new release and an update fix (maybe in the way how Joomla does it... just files what must be replaced). Il cane che si morde la coda - like the Italian say. We can think about to use pear in long run for that update ideas and there is no decision so far, just ideas to serve a HIS framework what can be updated as easy as possible. Robert Am Freitag, den 19.11.2010, 09:53 +0530 schrieb Ap.Muthu: Hi Robert, In SVN 6929, PEAR was added and in 6930, it was deleted. Any need for it now? There should be only one trunk. All others should be mods / overloads / extra files - with dependancies listed. This way it will be able to progress in parallel and gradually merge all branches into the trunk with options to enable different functionality. Regards, Ap.Muthu -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers -- MEROTECH IT Engineering Robert Meggle St.-Mang-Str. 8 87616 Marktoberdorf Germany Tel: +49(0)8342 - 8956729 Fax: +49(0)8342 - 8956730 mailto:meg...@merotech.de -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] SVN 6929-6930
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:14:46 +0100, Robert Meggle meg...@merotech.de wrote: Gjergj suggested in follow up versions of care2x to change adodb with ORM like doctrine. Although ORM is generally a good approach, PDO (as in PHP Data Objects) is so much simple to implement and, for practical purposes, as much powerful as ORM. There is PDO code ready to use (with pretty solid backup teams promising that it will be well maintained and properly debugged), at the Drupal project. See: http://drupal.org/requirements/pdo JA -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
Re: [Care2002-developers] SVN 6929-6930
Hi Antanas, Am Freitag, den 19.11.2010, 10:00 + schrieb J. Antas: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:14:46 +0100, Robert Meggle meg...@merotech.de wrote: Gjergj suggested in follow up versions of care2x to change adodb with ORM like doctrine. Although ORM is generally a good approach, PDO (as in PHP Data Objects) is so much simple to implement and, for practical purposes, as much powerful as ORM. First of all: I totally agree. I see the benefit, I see the big thing in having OOP based ORM's - and I do know the lack of it. So I have a bit mixed feelings about that. That does not mean that I am right or does I have a fixed idea on that at all. My doubts about ORM is having not that huge community like having in SQL based database layers. Maybe we might have also the lack of having limited ways of debugging. In my latest projects I used ORMs and was happy about that all, really. But in detail it was a big headache. For an simple step, what might needed some minutes in SQL, I spend one day. Based on the simple issue that the ORM does not had this element. This will definitely not a non flexible usage in my posting right now. It is just the usage that when we go for it, it must be tested carefully by the developers who are in the code to see early if the selected ORM can handle the need what we have. But be sure that we will test it out and will make public here the ideas coming out of the backend-developer's corner and many thanks a lot for your pdo link - we will also follow this idea. The first view sounds great! :) Robert -- -- CARE2X - free Integ Hospital Info System https://sourceforge.net/projects/care2002/ http://www.care2x.org -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
[Care2002-developers] SVN 6929-6930
Hi Robert, In SVN 6929, PEAR was added and in 6930, it was deleted. Any need for it now? There should be only one trunk. All others should be mods / overloads / extra files - with dependancies listed. This way it will be able to progress in parallel and gradually merge all branches into the trunk with options to enable different functionality. Regards, Ap.Muthu -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Care2002-developers mailing list Care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
