Re: [caret-users] volume data corresponding to the MNI surface data

2014-03-20 Thread 沈庄明
Hi Donna,


Thanks for your response. I have a paint type data in MNI space. The data 
corresponds to the surface with 40962 nodes. Actually, I want to convert the 
surface-based paint type data to a volume-based paint type data. I found Caret 
could do the task by "Copy Surface Paint Column to Paint Volume", but I need to 
select the volume space. So I hope you could give me some advice on the 
selection. 
 Cheers,


Zhuangming Shen


> -原始邮件-
> 发件人: "Donna Dierker" 
> 发送时间: 2014年3月20日 星期四
> 收件人: "Caret, SureFit, and SuMS software users" 
> 
> 抄送: 
> 主题: Re: [caret-users] volume data corresponding to the MNI surface data
> 
> This is a tough question that suggests that perhaps you are using 
> MNI_surf_reg.RIGHT.40962.coord as a mapping substrate.  It is possible the 
> MNI/CIVET folks have a recommended method for doing this, but I'm afraid I 
> don't know that it exists, much less be able to point you to it.  (Someone 
> else here might, though.)
> 
> But if you're looking for something like that surface, in terms of the 
> tighter sulcal/gyral alignment and a larger pool of subjects, then I would 
> point you to Conte69 
> (http://brainvis.wustl.edu/wiki/index.php/Caret:Atlases:Conte69_Atlas), 
> simply because then I can say FNIRT is the right choice, because that is the 
> spatial normalization method used to get those subjects into avg152T1 space.
> 
> Could you provide more context for how you plan to use this surface?
> 
> 
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 1:36 AM, 沈庄明  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Donna,
> > 
> >Thanks for your prompt reply. By the way, which space (AFNI, FLIRT, 
> > FLIRT-222, FNIRT, FNIRT-222, MRITOTAL, SPM, SPM95, SPM96, SPM2, SPM5, T88, 
> > 711-2B, 711-2C, 711-2O, 711-2Y) should I choose for 
> > mni_icbm152_t1_tal_nlin_sym_09a.nii ? Thanks again!
> > 
> >Cheers,
> > 
> > Zhuangming
> > 
> > 
> > -原始邮件-
> > 发件人: "Donna Dierker" 
> > 发送时间: 2014年3月20日 星期四
> > 收件人: "Caret, SureFit, and SuMS software users" 
> > 
> > 抄送: 
> > 主题: Re: [caret-users] volume data corresponding to the MNI surface data
> > 
> > Hi Zhuangming,
> > 
> > The mni_icbm152_t1_tal_nlin_sym_09a.nii file in this MNI template aligns 
> > pretty well with the MNI surface:
> > 
> > http://www.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/~vfonov/icbm/2009/mni_icbm152_nlin_sym_09a_nifti.zip
> > 
> > See attached capture.  The underlay is the above T1 volume.  Two surface 
> > contours are overlaid:
> > 
> > blue - MNI_surf_reg.RIGHT.40962.coord
> > red - 
> > PALS_Human.PALS.RIGHT_AVG_B1-12.FIDUCIAL_FLIRT.REG-with-MNI_surf_reg.40962.coord
> > 
> > The MNI surface was generated on the CIVET mesh from a population of 152 
> > subjects.  The PALS surface was generated on the 74k_palsb12 mesh from a 
> > population of 12 subjects.  Not surprisingly, the MNI surface aligns better 
> > with the MNI T1 template.  There is a mean volume for the PALS surface, but 
> > I'm guessing you are more interested in the MNI template.
> > 
> > This spec file has both the MNI and PALS mean midthickness surfaces, 
> > because it shows the results of registering one atlas to the other.
> > 
> > Donna
> > 
> > 
> > On Mar 19, 2014, at 2:09 AM, 沈庄明  wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi everyone,
> >> I found a human surface data in MNI space 
> >> (MNI_surf_reg.BOTH.REG-with-PLAS.40962.spec) at 
> >> http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/directory.do?id=6656001&dir_name=MNI_surf_reg.
> >>  Is the volume data (i.e. the T1-weighted image) corresponding to the 
> >> human surface data available? Thanks!
> >> Cheers,
> >> 
> >> Zhuangming Shen 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: [caret-users] volume data corresponding to the MNI surface data

2014-03-20 Thread Donna Dierker
This is a tough question that suggests that perhaps you are using 
MNI_surf_reg.RIGHT.40962.coord as a mapping substrate.  It is possible the 
MNI/CIVET folks have a recommended method for doing this, but I'm afraid I 
don't know that it exists, much less be able to point you to it.  (Someone else 
here might, though.)

But if you're looking for something like that surface, in terms of the tighter 
sulcal/gyral alignment and a larger pool of subjects, then I would point you to 
Conte69 (http://brainvis.wustl.edu/wiki/index.php/Caret:Atlases:Conte69_Atlas), 
simply because then I can say FNIRT is the right choice, because that is the 
spatial normalization method used to get those subjects into avg152T1 space.

Could you provide more context for how you plan to use this surface?


On Mar 20, 2014, at 1:36 AM, 沈庄明  wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
>Thanks for your prompt reply. By the way, which space (AFNI, FLIRT, 
> FLIRT-222, FNIRT, FNIRT-222, MRITOTAL, SPM, SPM95, SPM96, SPM2, SPM5, T88, 
> 711-2B, 711-2C, 711-2O, 711-2Y) should I choose for 
> mni_icbm152_t1_tal_nlin_sym_09a.nii ? Thanks again!
> 
>Cheers,
> 
> Zhuangming
> 
> 
> -原始邮件-
> 发件人: "Donna Dierker" 
> 发送时间: 2014年3月20日 星期四
> 收件人: "Caret, SureFit, and SuMS software users" 
> 
> 抄送: 
> 主题: Re: [caret-users] volume data corresponding to the MNI surface data
> 
> Hi Zhuangming,
> 
> The mni_icbm152_t1_tal_nlin_sym_09a.nii file in this MNI template aligns 
> pretty well with the MNI surface:
> 
> http://www.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/~vfonov/icbm/2009/mni_icbm152_nlin_sym_09a_nifti.zip
> 
> See attached capture.  The underlay is the above T1 volume.  Two surface 
> contours are overlaid:
> 
> blue - MNI_surf_reg.RIGHT.40962.coord
> red - 
> PALS_Human.PALS.RIGHT_AVG_B1-12.FIDUCIAL_FLIRT.REG-with-MNI_surf_reg.40962.coord
> 
> The MNI surface was generated on the CIVET mesh from a population of 152 
> subjects.  The PALS surface was generated on the 74k_palsb12 mesh from a 
> population of 12 subjects.  Not surprisingly, the MNI surface aligns better 
> with the MNI T1 template.  There is a mean volume for the PALS surface, but 
> I'm guessing you are more interested in the MNI template.
> 
> This spec file has both the MNI and PALS mean midthickness surfaces, because 
> it shows the results of registering one atlas to the other.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 2:09 AM, 沈庄明  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I found a human surface data in MNI space 
>> (MNI_surf_reg.BOTH.REG-with-PLAS.40962.spec) at 
>> http://sumsdb.wustl.edu/sums/directory.do?id=6656001&dir_name=MNI_surf_reg. 
>> Is the volume data (i.e. the T1-weighted image) corresponding to the human 
>> surface data available? Thanks!
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Zhuangming Shen 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
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