Re: [Catalyst] Re: Upload problem
On 23 Dec 2008, at 18:13, Florent Angly wrote: I'd be interested in knowing what browser you used, or if you did any client side chopping of the files to allow uploading of files larger than 2GB. If there's no easy way, I could always forget about a workaround and have users put/upload the files manually, it's not like it's going to happen everyday. My clients are perl, php, ruby and the curl command line application, so whilst it was a good guess, I don't really know how to get round it for you.. I guess I'd investigate flash, or a java applet, or something? Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: Upload problem
Try Google Chrome. It doesn't seem to complain about 4Gb file uploads. Using the Catalyst test server should be fine. Maybe you're pushing the multipart/form-data envelope here. Have you looked into a more specialized, gmail-upload style, browser solution, such as javascript libraries (extjs, dojo, etc.) or flash? I haven't tried it myself, but it looks darn good: http://max-bazhenov.com/dev/upload-dialog-2.0/index.php cheers, rodrigo On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Bernhard Graf cataly...@augensalat.dewrote: On Tue 23 Dezember 2008, Florent Angly wrote: I have now tried several browsers (Firefox, Epiphany, Internet Explorer), but none of them worked. Firefox and Epiphany did not complain and just refreshed the page, whereas Internet Explorer complained that The page cannot be displayed. A very very vague remembrance comes to my mind: I had a similar problem once, and AFAIR this was related to a broken Content-Length header... -- Bernhard Graf ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: System call problem
On 19 Dec 2008, at 16:21, Florent Angly wrote: Well, after some more fiddling and researching, I figured this problem out. Using the modified command: system(@formatdb_cmd) == 0 or die(Could not run command: @formatdb_cmd\nReturn status: $?\nMessage: $!); I found out that my error message is: No child processes It turns out that in Catalyst, $SIG{CHLD} = 'IGNORE'. Setting $SIG {CHLD} to 'DEFAULT' makes the system() calls return the proper status. I assume that you do this like this: { local $SIG{CHLD} = 'DEFAULT'; system('my system command'); } Does doing something similar around $class-handle_request; in Catalyst/Engine/HTTP.pm make it work in a generic way so that you don't have to do this hack locally? And is there any chance you could write a simple test which shows the return values being lost, so that we can properly fix this in Catalyst, with appropriate regression testing? Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] installing catalyst on mac os
On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:25, Ashley wrote: I love OS X but the Perl it has historically shipped with is historically no so hot. I would strongly recommend you install the latest 5.8 (NOT over your system perl but beside it) or 5.10. I don't consider this good advice, especially for a beginner. Catalyst runs *just fine* against the 5.8.6 that Apple ship. And I wouldn't recommend running 5.10.0 as that has a bug which makes it very hard to debug applications. You should probably avoid Task::Catalyst entirely. This is more sage advice, the failures being seen weren't in the core Catalyst, but in addons, although the fact that Test::WWW::Mechanize::Catalyst is failing isn't good, as this is one of the things everyone should be encouraged to be using :( Has anyone looked into this yet? Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] installing catalyst on mac os
Tomas, Ashley, et al, I've been using the installed version since I got the Mac - about 3 yrs ago. I've done alot in that time - /never/ had any trouble with perl 5.8.6. Just FYI, I'm a catalyst beginner, but I wrote my first perl script in 1986. So you can use big words and I'll very likely get it. I was trying to install Task::Catalyst cuz the online Catalyst manual says so. ...maybe the manual should be updated? I do recall trying just 'install Catalyst' some time ago, but that crapped out too. I'll try that again and see if the error messages look any different. Will post if there's anything new to report. I do appreciate all the input. Cheers. Fil Tomas Doran wrote: On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:25, Ashley wrote: I love OS X but the Perl it has historically shipped with is historically no so hot. I would strongly recommend you install the latest 5.8 (NOT over your system perl but beside it) or 5.10. I don't consider this good advice, especially for a beginner. Catalyst runs *just fine* against the 5.8.6 that Apple ship. And I wouldn't recommend running 5.10.0 as that has a bug which makes it very hard to debug applications. You should probably avoid Task::Catalyst entirely. This is more sage advice, the failures being seen weren't in the core Catalyst, but in addons, although the fact that Test::WWW::Mechanize::Catalyst is failing isn't good, as this is one of the things everyone should be encouraged to be using :( Has anyone looked into this yet? Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- Filippo A. Salustri, Ph.D., P.Eng. Department of Mechanical and Industrial Engineering Ryerson University 350 Victoria St, Toronto, ON, M5B 2K3, Canada Tel: 416/979-5000 ext 7749 Fax: 416/979-5265 Email: salus...@ryerson.ca http://deseng.ryerson.ca/~fil/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] installing catalyst on mac os
Hi Fillipo, Have you checked out cat-install? It's located here: http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/static/cat-install Just wget that, and run perl cat-install and things should go as planned. HTH, -Devin On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Filippo A. Salustri salus...@ryerson.cawrote: Tomas, Ashley, et al, I've been using the installed version since I got the Mac - about 3 yrs ago. I've done alot in that time - /never/ had any trouble with perl 5.8.6. Just FYI, I'm a catalyst beginner, but I wrote my first perl script in 1986. So you can use big words and I'll very likely get it. I was trying to install Task::Catalyst cuz the online Catalyst manual says so. ...maybe the manual should be updated? I do recall trying just 'install Catalyst' some time ago, but that crapped out too. I'll try that again and see if the error messages look any different. Will post if there's anything new to report. I do appreciate all the input. Cheers. Fil Tomas Doran wrote: On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:25, Ashley wrote: I love OS X but the Perl it has historically shipped with is historically no so hot. I would strongly recommend you install the latest 5.8 (NOT over your system perl but beside it) or 5.10. I don't consider this good advice, especially for a beginner. Catalyst runs *just fine* against the 5.8.6 that Apple ship. And I wouldn't recommend running 5.10.0 as that has a bug which makes it very hard to debug applications. You should probably avoid Task::Catalyst entirely. This is more sage advice, the failures being seen weren't in the core Catalyst, but in addons, although the fact that Test::WWW::Mechanize::Catalyst is failing isn't good, as this is one of the things everyone should be encouraged to be using :( Has anyone looked into this yet? Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- Filippo A. Salustri, Ph.D., P.Eng. Department of Mechanical and Industrial Engineering Ryerson University 350 Victoria St, Toronto, ON, M5B 2K3, Canada Tel: 416/979-5000 ext 7749 Fax: 416/979-5265 Email: salus...@ryerson.ca http://deseng.ryerson.ca/~fil/ http://deseng.ryerson.ca/%7Efil/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- Devin Austin http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?326568/hosting.html - Host with DreamHost! ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] installing catalyst on mac os
Yes, Task::Catalyst is no longer used. The current tutorial says to use Task::Catalyst::Tutorial which is maintained. cpan Catalyst::Devel has been fine for me on Mac, Linux and even Strawberry perl on windows (with the exception of having to notest install HTTP::Server::Simple which is buried somewhere deep in the dependency chain) recently. On 24/12/2008, at 10:51 PM, Filippo A. Salustri wrote: Tomas, Ashley, et al, I've been using the installed version since I got the Mac - about 3 yrs ago. I've done alot in that time - /never/ had any trouble with perl 5.8.6. Just FYI, I'm a catalyst beginner, but I wrote my first perl script in 1986. So you can use big words and I'll very likely get it. I was trying to install Task::Catalyst cuz the online Catalyst manual says so. ...maybe the manual should be updated? I do recall trying just 'install Catalyst' some time ago, but that crapped out too. I'll try that again and see if the error messages look any different. Will post if there's anything new to report. I do appreciate all the input. Cheers. Fil Tomas Doran wrote: On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:25, Ashley wrote: I love OS X but the Perl it has historically shipped with is historically no so hot. I would strongly recommend you install the latest 5.8 (NOT over your system perl but beside it) or 5.10. I don't consider this good advice, especially for a beginner. Catalyst runs *just fine* against the 5.8.6 that Apple ship. And I wouldn't recommend running 5.10.0 as that has a bug which makes it very hard to debug applications. You should probably avoid Task::Catalyst entirely. This is more sage advice, the failures being seen weren't in the core Catalyst, but in addons, although the fact that Test::WWW::Mechanize::Catalyst is failing isn't good, as this is one of the things everyone should be encouraged to be using :( Has anyone looked into this yet? Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ -- Filippo A. Salustri, Ph.D., P.Eng. Department of Mechanical and Industrial Engineering Ryerson University 350 Victoria St, Toronto, ON, M5B 2K3, Canada Tel: 416/979-5000 ext 7749 Fax: 416/979-5265 Email: salus...@ryerson.ca http://deseng.ryerson.ca/~fil/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: System call problem
Hi t0m, I wouldn't really call this a Catalyst bug. It's more some sort of Perl behavior that I did know of / expect. My Catalyst code is along these lines (and runs on a Linux 2.6 kernel): sub catalyst_run_app { my $original_sig_chld = $SIG{CHLD}; # system calls always return -1 (No child processes), even when the call is sucessful $SIG{CHLD} = 'DEFAULT'; # system calls will return 0 for success (-1 is a failure) use 'App'; eval { App::main(); # This function contains a system() call }; $SIG{CHLD} = $original_sig_chld; # restore original sig chld value if ($@) { # check for execution errors # warn that there was an execution error } # Display results } There's some more info about this at: http://www.schwer.us/journal/2008/02/06/perl-sigchld-ignore-system-and-you/ I must say that I don't fully appreciate the differences between the different child signal methods. I'm happy with using 'DEFAULT'. The easiest way to reproduce this behavior is to run these commands: perl -e '$SIG{CHLD} = 'IGNORE'; print system('echo').\n;' Returns: -1 Whereas: perl -e '$SIG{CHLD} = 'DEFAULT'; print system('echo').\n;' Returns: 0 I'm not sure what you mean with using $class-handle_request; in Catalyst/Engine/HTTP.pm. My Catayst app runs using the Catalyst test server at the moment. I haven't deployed it on a standalone webserver yet. Cheers, Florent Tomas Doran wrote: On 19 Dec 2008, at 16:21, Florent Angly wrote: Well, after some more fiddling and researching, I figured this problem out. Using the modified command: system(@formatdb_cmd) == 0 or die(Could not run command: @formatdb_cmd\nReturn status: $?\nMessage: $!); I found out that my error message is: No child processes It turns out that in Catalyst, $SIG{CHLD} = 'IGNORE'. Setting $SIG{CHLD} to 'DEFAULT' makes the system() calls return the proper status. I assume that you do this like this: { local $SIG{CHLD} = 'DEFAULT'; system('my system command'); } Does doing something similar around $class-handle_request; in Catalyst/Engine/HTTP.pm make it work in a generic way so that you don't have to do this hack locally? And is there any chance you could write a simple test which shows the return values being lost, so that we can properly fix this in Catalyst, with appropriate regression testing? Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Re: Upload problem
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tomas Doran bobtf...@bobtfish.net wrote: On 23 Dec 2008, at 18:13, Florent Angly wrote: I'd be interested in knowing what browser you used, or if you did any client side chopping of the files to allow uploading of files larger than 2GB. If there's no easy way, I could always forget about a workaround and have users put/upload the files manually, it's not like it's going to happen everyday. My clients are perl, php, ruby and the curl command line application, so whilst it was a good guess, I don't really know how to get round it for you.. I guess I'd investigate flash, or a java applet, or something? Cheers t0m On the Flash note, I have used it to upload larger files (only on the order of a few hundred megabytes, not into the GB) SWFUpload works very well, and doesn't thrash about completely in Linux -- I had problems with YUI Uploader under Linux, though. I think the browser hard limit is ~2GB, and some (Microsoft) browsers have content-length bugs for other large sizes. -J ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] Tracking down memory leaks
What are some good methods for tracking down memory leaks? I used Devel::Cycle on $c in handle_request() to find one leak. But, I suspect I've got a circular reference elsewhere still by the size of my processes after a while. (Processes start out showing 70MB and end up at 140MB rss -- which includes shared memory, of course). I'm also curious about seeing an increase in rss memory in a very simple Catalyst application. Could be my testing, or 5.10.0 on this machine. $ perl rssmem.pl Start Rss : 7444 After one request Rss : 9592 Request 1000: Rss: 9636 Request 2000: Rss: 9696 Request 3000: Rss: 9756 Request 4000: Rss: 9816 Request 5000: Rss: 9880 It's not that significant, and I think I restart my processes after 1000 requests. $ cat rssmem.pl use strict; use warnings; use HTTP::Request::AsCGI; use Catalyst::Utils; use Linux::Smaps; my $smap = Linux::Smaps-new( $$ ); App-setup; print 'Start Rss : ', $smap-rss, \n; my $r = make_request(); my $before = $smap-all; $smap-update; print 'After one request Rss : ', $smap-rss, \n; for ( 1 .. 5000 ) { make_request(); next if $_ % 1000; $smap-update; print Request $_: Rss: . $smap-rss,\n; } sub make_request { my $request = Catalyst::Utils::request( '/ping' ); my $cgi = HTTP::Request::AsCGI-new( $request, %ENV )-setup; # Uncomment and no gain in rss. #return; App-handle_request; return $cgi-restore-response; } package App; use strict; use warnings; use Catalyst; sub ping : Local { my ( $self, $c ) = @_; $c-res-body( 'ping' ); } -- Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org Sent from my iMutt ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Tracking down memory leaks
Bill Moseley wrote: What are some good methods for tracking down memory leaks? I used Devel::Cycle on $c in handle_request() to find one leak. But, I suspect I've got a circular reference elsewhere still by the size of my processes after a while. (Processes start out showing 70MB and end up at 140MB rss -- which includes shared memory, of course). Devel::Leak saved me several times over, but I did need to build a debugging Perl to see the contents. When I did that, most of the leaks I was responsible for were easy to find and fix. I just used NoteSV/CheckSV in the loop, to pick up anything left from a previous iteration. In the end I still found DBI and some DBDs were responsible for most of my missing memory, and upgrading them took away of lot of issues. All the best Stuart -- Stuart Watt ARM Product Developer Information Balance I'm also curious about seeing an increase in rss memory in a very simple Catalyst application. Could be my testing, or 5.10.0 on this machine. $ perl rssmem.pl Start Rss : 7444 After one request Rss : 9592 Request 1000: Rss: 9636 Request 2000: Rss: 9696 Request 3000: Rss: 9756 Request 4000: Rss: 9816 Request 5000: Rss: 9880 It's not that significant, and I think I restart my processes after 1000 requests. $ cat rssmem.pl use strict; use warnings; use HTTP::Request::AsCGI; use Catalyst::Utils; use Linux::Smaps; my $smap = Linux::Smaps-new( $$ ); App-setup; print 'Start Rss : ', $smap-rss, \n; my $r = make_request(); my $before = $smap-all; $smap-update; print 'After one request Rss : ', $smap-rss, \n; for ( 1 .. 5000 ) { make_request(); next if $_ % 1000; $smap-update; print Request $_: Rss: . $smap-rss,\n; } sub make_request { my $request = Catalyst::Utils::request( '/ping' ); my $cgi = HTTP::Request::AsCGI-new( $request, %ENV )-setup; # Uncomment and no gain in rss. #return; App-handle_request; return $cgi-restore-response; } package App; use strict; use warnings; use Catalyst; sub ping : Local { my ( $self, $c ) = @_; $c-res-body( 'ping' ); } ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] Tracking down memory leaks
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 11:47:45AM -0500, Stuart Watt wrote: Devel::Leak saved me several times over, but I did need to build a debugging Perl to see the contents. When I did that, most of the leaks I was responsible for were easy to find and fix. I just used NoteSV/CheckSV in the loop, to pick up anything left from a previous iteration. In the end I still found DBI and some DBDs were responsible for most of my missing memory, and upgrading them took away of lot of issues. Which loop are you referring to? perl -V shows -DDEBUGGING=-g I tried using Devel::Leak but it ended up not very useful. Perhaps using it incorrectly. For example, if I wrap the eval block in handle_request() like this: use Devel::Leak; my $handle; Devel::Leak::NoteSV($handle); eval { if ($class-debug) { my $secs = time - $START || 1; my $av = sprintf '%.3f', $COUNT / $secs; my $time = localtime time; $class-log-info(*** Request $COUNT ($av/s) [$$] [$time] ***); } my $c = $class-prepare(@arguments); $c-dispatch; $status = $c-finalize; use Devel::Cycle; #find_cycle( $c ); }; Devel::Leak::CheckSV($handle); Then I get a bunch of output like: new 0xac62a60 : new 0xac62a70 : new 0xac62a80 : new 0xac62a90 : By a bunch I mean 16,979. So, I don't quite think I'm doing it correctly. ;) -- Bill Moseley mose...@hank.org Sent from my iMutt ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] installing catalyst on mac os
On 24 Dec 2008, at 18:27, Ashley wrote: On Dec 24, 2008, at 2:08 AM, Tomas Doran wrote: On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:25, Ashley wrote: I love OS X but the Perl it has historically shipped with is historically no so hot. I would strongly recommend you install the latest 5.8 (NOT over your system perl but beside it) or 5.10. I don't consider this good advice, especially for a beginner. He didn't say he was a Perl beginner. :) Yeah, sorry - total misreading on my part there.. He said he was new to Catalyst. The perl + libs OS X ships with have caused me many problems (nothing with Cat springs to mind, more C-based things like Storable) in the past from the public beta to 10.4. I've never had an issue with Apple's perl myself. I wouldn't use it for production (where I build my own from source), but I've always found it fine for development.. It's not bad advice, generally - but readers could have got the impression that Catalyst itself is unlikely to work on the perl which Apple ship, which isn't true.. This might be the problems with the temporarily out of sync content decoding layers in LWP v Mech. Which are all fixed in the newest versions. So installing LWP and WWW::Mechanize before Catalyst might be all that's needed. I think that is just idle speculation... I can confirm that right now for me, a freshly installed 5.8.8, pulling everything (including latest WWW::Mech, and latest LWP) from CPAN, WWW::Mech fails tests for me, as per: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2008/12/msg2920088.html https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=41834 Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] installing catalyst on mac os
On 24 Dec 2008, at 11:51, Filippo A. Salustri wrote: I do recall trying just 'install Catalyst' some time ago, but that crapped out too. I'll try that again and see if the error messages look any different. How long ago is 'some time ago'? I did this on a fresh perl 5.8.8 less than two weeks ago, and Catalyst-Runtime + Catalyst-Devel (and all dependencies) installed cleanly from CPAN. Will post if there's anything new to report. Please do :) Cheers t0m ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
Re: [Catalyst] installing catalyst on mac os
On Dec 24, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Tomas Doran wrote: On 24 Dec 2008, at 18:27, Ashley wrote: On Dec 24, 2008, at 2:08 AM, Tomas Doran wrote: On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:25, Ashley wrote: I love OS X but the Perl it has historically shipped with is historically no so hot. I would strongly recommend you install the latest 5.8 (NOT over your system perl but beside it) or 5.10. I don't consider this good advice, especially for a beginner. He didn't say he was a Perl beginner. :) Yeah, sorry - total misreading on my part there.. He said he was new to Catalyst. The perl + libs OS X ships with have caused me many problems (nothing with Cat springs to mind, more C-based things like Storable) in the past from the public beta to 10.4. I've never had an issue with Apple's perl myself. I wouldn't use it for production (where I build my own from source), but I've always found it fine for development.. It's not bad advice, generally - but readers could have got the impression that Catalyst itself is unlikely to work on the perl which Apple ship, which isn't true.. I've used every single OS X from the PB and I've had problems with all of them except 10.5 but I didn't keep it long enough to know if it would cause problems, I upgraded Perl as soon as I got my new machine. Maybe I do more odd things than you, but many system installs are not particularly hot. The vendors make goofy, subjective choices and releases get frozen with bugs. Red Hat Perl has also had big problems, which clobbered DBIC among other libs, just as another example. You should cook your own if you know how. This might be the problems with the temporarily out of sync content decoding layers in LWP v Mech. Which are all fixed in the newest versions. So installing LWP and WWW::Mechanize before Catalyst might be all that's needed. I think that is just idle speculation... I think that's just a cliche to fill space... There was an ongoing problem between Mech and LWP regarding decoding layers it was discussed on those lists, Perl Monks, and here too as it was messing with testing Cat apps. It was fixed. The last time I updated was about then and everything went fine. Without looking at test output it was a perfectly reasonable guess. I can confirm that right now for me, a freshly installed 5.8.8, pulling everything (including latest WWW::Mech, and latest LWP) from CPAN, WWW::Mech fails tests for me, as per: You're right. It's bad live tests. They're checking live sites which is prone to falling down, obviously, because sites change content. All the unit tests pass so a force install in this case is completely reasonable. j...@jasper[124]~/build/WWW-Mechanize-1.52prove -l lib t t/00-load.1/2 # Testing WWW::Mechanize 1.52, with LWP 5.822, Perl 5.01, /usr/bin/perl t/00-load.ok t/add_header..ok t/aliases.ok t/area_link...ok t/autocheck...ok t/clone...ok t/cookies.ok t/credentials-api.ok t/credentials.ok t/die.ok t/field...ok t/find_frame..ok t/find_image..ok t/find_inputs.ok t/find_link-warnings..ok t/find_link...ok t/find_link_idok t/form-parsingok t/frames..ok t/image-new...ok t/image-parse.ok t/link-base...ok t/link-relative...ok t/linkok t/new.ok t/pod-coverageok t/pod.ok t/regex-error.ok t/save_contentok t/select..ok t/taint...ok t/tickok t/upload..ok t/warnok t/warningsok All tests successful. Files=35, Tests=339, 20 wallclock secs ( 0.45 usr 0.41 sys + 14.26 cusr 2.88 csys = 18.00 CPU) Result: PASS ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
[Catalyst] Re: OT: Better TT pager?
* Jesse Sheidlower jes...@panix.com [2008-12-23 12:45]: Does someone have a model I can steal from? I have something pretty close to that. Not entirely happy insofar as that I want to add the ability show a few links to skip 10 and 20 pages as appropriate, and it’s not abstracted as it should be, but as a starting point it should work. USE decimal = format('%d') ; BLOCK pagination ; IF NOT page ; page = 0 ; END ; last_page = decimal( ( num_trials - 1 ) / per_page ); IF last_page ; %]div class=pagination[% %]a href=[% c.req.uri_with( page = [] ) %][% ' class=current' IF NOT page %]1/a[% linked_page = page - 4 ; IF linked_page 1 ; linked_page = 1 ; END ; until_page = linked_page + 7 ; IF last_page = until_page ; until_page = last_page - 1 ; linked_page = until_page - 7 ; IF linked_page 1 ; linked_page = 1 ; END ; END ; 'i#x2026;/i' IF 1 linked_page ; WHILE ( linked_page = until_page ) AND ( linked_page last_page ) ; %]a href=[% c.req.uri_with( page = linked_page ) %][% ' class=current' IF page == linked_page %][% linked_page + 1 %]/a[% linked_page = linked_page + 1 ; END ; 'i#x2026;/i' IF linked_page last_page ; %]a href=[% c.req.uri_with( page = last_page ) %][% ' class=current' IF page == last_page %][% last_page + 1 %]/a[% %]/div[% END ; END ; This is also a perfect demonstration of why I say that TT sucks. This should by all rights be handled in the template since it’s display logic, but writing it in that TT mini-language rather than Perl is fugly. And PERL and RAWPERL blocks have their own problems. Anyway. Someday I’ll quit yapping and write some code. The CSS for styling that looks like this: div.pagination { margin: 1.1em 0 0.5em; text-align: right; padding: 0.2em 0; } div.pagination i { font-style: normal; } div.pagination a:link, div.pagination a:visited { border: 1px solid #359; background-color: #f0f0e6; padding: 0.1em 0.3em; margin: 0 0.2em; } div.pagination a.current, div.pagination a:focus, div.pagination a:hover, div.pagination a:active { background-color: #47b; color: #fff; } I’m not sure how selfcontained that is, but I can’t be bothered to dig through the rest of my stylesheets right now. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // http://plasmasturm.org/ ___ List: Catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/