[cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

2014-03-04 Thread Sue Rakow
I observed the murder of crows on Sunday evening. It was stunning. I would
like to know more about why they gather in such large groups. Are they on
the move or are they local? Can anyone help me understand?
Thanks.
Sue Rakow

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

2014-03-04 Thread Anne Clark
These groups are winter roosts, and they are nothing new in crow life.  
Despite what urban residents sometimes think, crows didn't start gathering when 
we set out cities for them to use.  Roosting in groups at any time of year may 
offer safety in numbers from night predators, such as Great Horned Owls.  

In winter, birds living in northern areas that usually have constant snow cover 
for months do migrate south--Canada, areas of New England.  Crows don't 
necessarily have a particular area they migrate TO.  They may go as far as an 
area that is usually ok for foraging, perhaps one that they are familiar with 
from previous migrations.  There they form flocks that are made up of migrants 
as well as wide-foraging locals.  If it gets unusually snowy and cold, they may 
move further south.  (We really don't know much of the repeat migratory routes 
of individual crows.  We do know that birds tagged in Ithaca in winter are then 
seen on territories in Canada, VT, New Hampshire in summer, and that some birds 
RAISED in Ithaca have been observed or shot in winter, in such places as 
Maryland, West VA, and Pennsylvania, as well as in Cortland, Auburn, Geneva)

In the winter flocks, birds are foraging in open fields and off familiar areas. 
 During foraging, flocks offer some safety in numbers to detect predators in 
day (hawks, hunters, whatever).  At night the flocks flock up still more in 
places that offer good roosting sites, which probably includes wind breaks, 
places from which owls can be detected at night. So they are probably gathering 
both for safety in numbers and also because they all agree on what makes a good 
site.  Cities may offer fewer predators, but also the lights may allow them to 
see the predators.  Finally roosting in flocks that include birds that have 
sampled food sources widely may allow birds to find new food sources, perhaps 
by following the most assured and directed birds leaving the roost.

So--Upstate NY has its own crows and is ideally positioned for northern 
crows--so flocks become big.  They like the agricultural fields interspersed 
with trees and lots of running water sources (which may be important in cold 
winters)...and we also offer lots of smaller cities, with large groups of lit 
trees in their downtowns or college campuses. These seem to be attractive.

Mid-late March is the start of the breeding season and flocking crows will be 
returning to their breeding latitudes.  Our Ithaca pairs are already calling on 
territory during daytimes.

As I say, some of this story is surmised from the patterns, not pinned down 
with hard data on individuals!  We know what our tagged birds do, when we can 
follow them.  But we would love to have gps data coming in from our birds, such 
as the snowy owls and golden eagles give their researchers.  Bring on the Tiny 
Tags!

Anne

On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Sue Rakow wrote:

 I observed the murder of crows on Sunday evening. It was stunning. I would 
 like to know more about why they gather in such large groups. Are they on the 
 move or are they local? Can anyone help me understand?
 Thanks.
 Sue Rakow
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[cayugabirds-l] Amherst Island needs help

2014-03-04 Thread John and Sue Gregoire
Please sign the attached petition. We all know the importance of this island to
migrating raptors and passerines as well as wintering owls. Wolf Island next 
door is
the home of a wind farm and had been documented as one of the most devastating 
to
birds with so many raptors killed there. We can't allow Amherst to go down as 
well.
Our friends to the north thank you.
John

http://www.protectamherstisland.ca/save-amherst-island-letter/

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[cayugabirds-l] Large flock Snow Buntings

2014-03-04 Thread Carl Steckler
There is a large flock of Snow Buntings in the field at the corner of 
Rt. 13 and Simms Hill Rd in Dryden, just past Mullen's Body shop.

Carl Steckler

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Rough-legged Hawk Dark Phase

2014-03-04 Thread Jeff Gerbracht
Dark Rough-legs are one of my favorite birds and I've noticed there seem to
be more around this year.  I took a quick look at my eBird sightings for
these and in addition to the one on Burdick Hill, I've seen dark birds
multiple times at Freese Rd, Mt Pleasant, Midline Rd. and along Buffalo Rd
in Caroline.   Most recently, there were two on my drive to the lab this
morning, one along Freese and one on Mt Pleasant.
 Great winter to be out looking for hawks,
Jeff


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 I've been looking for ROUGH-LEGGED HAWKS on Burdick Hill Road ever since
 Mark Chao saw them there in mid-February and I occasionally see a light
 phase one flying over the field sitting in a tree on the south side of the
 road as he described. Today as I drove by at 2: 35 PM, I did a double take.
 The Rough-legged sitting in the tree today was definitely a dark-phase.
 Candace
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[cayugabirds-l] Horned Larks

2014-03-04 Thread Maryfaith Miller
On Groton City Road, where farmers have been spreading manure, there are
loads of Horned Larks.  Also, a nice, large, roundish hawk up in a tree
with it's back to me. Did not have a red tail. I was too late for work
(again) to wait for it too move for identification. Also saw a Northern
Harrier which required pulling over to observe (even later to work). If you
head over to Groton City Road, which is a left off of 222 coming from
Groton, be sure to continue on to Hinman Rd. Hinman is the right turn at
the end of Groton City Road. A Short Eared Owl was spotted in the pastures
on the left 100yrds before the junction with rt 90. As you scan those
fields, you'll be treated to the Cardinal's loud clear tunes. Makes it
worth freezing your knuckles off. Good birding, Maryfaith

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

2014-03-04 Thread Sue Rakow
This is very helpful information! Thank  you so much for the complete
picture. I am learning so much from being on this list serve. I am very
grateful!
Sue Rakow


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

 These groups are winter roosts, and they are nothing new in crow life.
  Despite what urban residents sometimes think, crows didn't start gathering
 when we set out cities for them to use.  Roosting in groups at any time of
 year may offer safety in numbers from night predators, such as Great Horned
 Owls.

 In winter, birds living in northern areas that usually have constant snow
 cover for months do migrate south--Canada, areas of New England.  Crows
 don't necessarily have a particular area they migrate TO.  They may go as
 far as an area that is usually ok for foraging, perhaps one that they are
 familiar with from previous migrations.  There they form flocks that are
 made up of migrants as well as wide-foraging locals.  If it gets unusually
 snowy and cold, they may move further south.  (We really don't know much of
 the repeat migratory routes of individual crows.  We do know that birds
 tagged in Ithaca in winter are then seen on territories in Canada, VT, New
 Hampshire in summer, and that some birds RAISED in Ithaca have been
 observed or shot in winter, in such places as Maryland, West VA, and
 Pennsylvania, as well as in Cortland, Auburn, Geneva)

 In the winter flocks, birds are foraging in open fields and off familiar
 areas.  During foraging, flocks offer some safety in numbers to detect
 predators in day (hawks, hunters, whatever).  At night the flocks flock
 up still more in places that offer good roosting sites, which probably
 includes wind breaks, places from which owls can be detected at night. So
 they are probably gathering both for safety in numbers and also because
 they all agree on what makes a good site.  Cities may offer fewer
 predators, but also the lights may allow them to see the predators.
  Finally roosting in flocks that include birds that have sampled food
 sources widely may allow birds to find new food sources, perhaps by
 following the most assured and directed birds leaving the roost.

 So--Upstate NY has its own crows and is ideally positioned for northern
 crows--so flocks become big.  They like the agricultural fields
 interspersed with trees and lots of running water sources (which may be
 important in cold winters)...and we also offer lots of smaller cities, with
 large groups of lit trees in their downtowns or college campuses. These
 seem to be attractive.

 Mid-late March is the start of the breeding season and flocking crows will
 be returning to their breeding latitudes.  Our Ithaca pairs are already
 calling on territory during daytimes.

 As I say, some of this story is surmised from the patterns, not pinned
 down with hard data on individuals!  We know what our tagged birds do, when
 we can follow them.  But we would love to have gps data coming in from our
 birds, such as the snowy owls and golden eagles give their researchers.
  Bring on the Tiny Tags!

 Anne

 On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Sue Rakow wrote:

 I observed the murder of crows on Sunday evening. It was stunning. I would
 like to know more about why they gather in such large groups. Are they on
 the move or are they local? Can anyone help me understand?
 Thanks.
 Sue Rakow
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

2014-03-04 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
For those who don't know, I have had a set of web pages about crows up for 15 
years now, including http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/crowfaq.htm, which 
answers a lot of questions like these.

Best,

Kevin


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[mailto:bounce-112890972-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Sue Rakow
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 10:52 AM
To: Anne Clark
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

This is very helpful information! Thank  you so much for the complete picture. 
I am learning so much from being on this list serve. I am very grateful!
Sue Rakow

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Anne Clark 
anneb.cl...@gmail.commailto:anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
These groups are winter roosts, and they are nothing new in crow life.  
Despite what urban residents sometimes think, crows didn't start gathering when 
we set out cities for them to use.  Roosting in groups at any time of year may 
offer safety in numbers from night predators, such as Great Horned Owls.

In winter, birds living in northern areas that usually have constant snow cover 
for months do migrate south--Canada, areas of New England.  Crows don't 
necessarily have a particular area they migrate TO.  They may go as far as an 
area that is usually ok for foraging, perhaps one that they are familiar with 
from previous migrations.  There they form flocks that are made up of migrants 
as well as wide-foraging locals.  If it gets unusually snowy and cold, they may 
move further south.  (We really don't know much of the repeat migratory routes 
of individual crows.  We do know that birds tagged in Ithaca in winter are then 
seen on territories in Canada, VT, New Hampshire in summer, and that some birds 
RAISED in Ithaca have been observed or shot in winter, in such places as 
Maryland, West VA, and Pennsylvania, as well as in Cortland, Auburn, Geneva)

In the winter flocks, birds are foraging in open fields and off familiar areas. 
 During foraging, flocks offer some safety in numbers to detect predators in 
day (hawks, hunters, whatever).  At night the flocks flock up still more in 
places that offer good roosting sites, which probably includes wind breaks, 
places from which owls can be detected at night. So they are probably gathering 
both for safety in numbers and also because they all agree on what makes a good 
site.  Cities may offer fewer predators, but also the lights may allow them to 
see the predators.  Finally roosting in flocks that include birds that have 
sampled food sources widely may allow birds to find new food sources, perhaps 
by following the most assured and directed birds leaving the roost.

So--Upstate NY has its own crows and is ideally positioned for northern 
crows--so flocks become big.  They like the agricultural fields interspersed 
with trees and lots of running water sources (which may be important in cold 
winters)...and we also offer lots of smaller cities, with large groups of lit 
trees in their downtowns or college campuses. These seem to be attractive.

Mid-late March is the start of the breeding season and flocking crows will be 
returning to their breeding latitudes.  Our Ithaca pairs are already calling on 
territory during daytimes.

As I say, some of this story is surmised from the patterns, not pinned down 
with hard data on individuals!  We know what our tagged birds do, when we can 
follow them.  But we would love to have gps data coming in from our birds, such 
as the snowy owls and golden eagles give their researchers.  Bring on the Tiny 
Tags!

Anne

On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Sue Rakow wrote:

I observed the murder of crows on Sunday evening. It was stunning. I would like 
to know more about why they gather in such large groups. Are they on the move 
or are they local? Can anyone help me understand?
Thanks.
Sue Rakow
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

2014-03-04 Thread Linda Orkin
Sue, thanks for enjoying the list and for being so eager to learn.  All of
us who admire, respect and enjoy crows are trying to retire the collective
noun of murder as it can either imply that crows are evil or that they
should be murdered.  Another term could be Congress of crows (which in this
day and age can also be pejorative) or can also be a Muster.  Which would
seem appropriate especially at this time of year as they gather or when
they all raucously mob a Great-horned Owl.  I like Muster, the definition
is apropos.

Keep watching!!!

Linda Orkin
Ithaca, NY


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Sue Rakow sue.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is very helpful information! Thank  you so much for the complete
 picture. I am learning so much from being on this list serve. I am very
 grateful!
 Sue Rakow


 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

 These groups are winter roosts, and they are nothing new in crow life.
  Despite what urban residents sometimes think, crows didn't start gathering
 when we set out cities for them to use.  Roosting in groups at any time of
 year may offer safety in numbers from night predators, such as Great Horned
 Owls.

 In winter, birds living in northern areas that usually have constant snow
 cover for months do migrate south--Canada, areas of New England.  Crows
 don't necessarily have a particular area they migrate TO.  They may go as
 far as an area that is usually ok for foraging, perhaps one that they are
 familiar with from previous migrations.  There they form flocks that are
 made up of migrants as well as wide-foraging locals.  If it gets unusually
 snowy and cold, they may move further south.  (We really don't know much of
 the repeat migratory routes of individual crows.  We do know that birds
 tagged in Ithaca in winter are then seen on territories in Canada, VT, New
 Hampshire in summer, and that some birds RAISED in Ithaca have been
 observed or shot in winter, in such places as Maryland, West VA, and
 Pennsylvania, as well as in Cortland, Auburn, Geneva)

 In the winter flocks, birds are foraging in open fields and off familiar
 areas.  During foraging, flocks offer some safety in numbers to detect
 predators in day (hawks, hunters, whatever).  At night the flocks flock
 up still more in places that offer good roosting sites, which probably
 includes wind breaks, places from which owls can be detected at night. So
 they are probably gathering both for safety in numbers and also because
 they all agree on what makes a good site.  Cities may offer fewer
 predators, but also the lights may allow them to see the predators.
  Finally roosting in flocks that include birds that have sampled food
 sources widely may allow birds to find new food sources, perhaps by
 following the most assured and directed birds leaving the roost.

 So--Upstate NY has its own crows and is ideally positioned for northern
 crows--so flocks become big.  They like the agricultural fields
 interspersed with trees and lots of running water sources (which may be
 important in cold winters)...and we also offer lots of smaller cities, with
 large groups of lit trees in their downtowns or college campuses. These
 seem to be attractive.

 Mid-late March is the start of the breeding season and flocking crows
 will be returning to their breeding latitudes.  Our Ithaca pairs are
 already calling on territory during daytimes.

 As I say, some of this story is surmised from the patterns, not pinned
 down with hard data on individuals!  We know what our tagged birds do, when
 we can follow them.  But we would love to have gps data coming in from our
 birds, such as the snowy owls and golden eagles give their researchers.
  Bring on the Tiny Tags!

 Anne

 On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Sue Rakow wrote:

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Amherst Island needs help

2014-03-04 Thread Deirdre Anderson
I put my two cents in as well!

Deirdre Anderson


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:50 AM, John and Sue Gregoire k...@empacc.netwrote:

 Please sign the attached petition. We all know the importance of this
 island to
 migrating raptors and passerines as well as wintering owls. Wolf Island
 next door is
 the home of a wind farm and had been documented as one of the most
 devastating to
 birds with so many raptors killed there. We can't allow Amherst to go down
 as well.
 Our friends to the north thank you.
 John

 http://www.protectamherstisland.ca/save-amherst-island-letter/

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

2014-03-04 Thread J. Sullivan
MUSTER .

Would that be only used among us locals?

Jae 

 On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sue, thanks for enjoying the list and for being so eager to learn.  All of us 
 who admire, respect and enjoy crows are trying to retire the collective noun 
 of murder as it can either imply that crows are evil or that they should be 
 murdered.  Another term could be Congress of crows (which in this day and age 
 can also be pejorative) or can also be a Muster.  Which would seem 
 appropriate especially at this time of year as they gather or when they all 
 raucously mob a Great-horned Owl.  I like Muster, the definition is apropos.  
 
 Keep watching!!!
 
 Linda Orkin
 Ithaca, NY
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Sue Rakow sue.ra...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is very helpful information! Thank  you so much for the complete 
 picture. I am learning so much from being on this list serve. I am very 
 grateful!
 Sue Rakow
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
 These groups are winter roosts, and they are nothing new in crow life.  
 Despite what urban residents sometimes think, crows didn't start gathering 
 when we set out cities for them to use.  Roosting in groups at any time of 
 year may offer safety in numbers from night predators, such as Great Horned 
 Owls.  
 
 In winter, birds living in northern areas that usually have constant snow 
 cover for months do migrate south--Canada, areas of New England.  Crows 
 don't necessarily have a particular area they migrate TO.  They may go as 
 far as an area that is usually ok for foraging, perhaps one that they are 
 familiar with from previous migrations.  There they form flocks that are 
 made up of migrants as well as wide-foraging locals.  If it gets unusually 
 snowy and cold, they may move further south.  (We really don't know much of 
 the repeat migratory routes of individual crows.  We do know that birds 
 tagged in Ithaca in winter are then seen on territories in Canada, VT, New 
 Hampshire in summer, and that some birds RAISED in Ithaca have been 
 observed or shot in winter, in such places as Maryland, West VA, and 
 Pennsylvania, as well as in Cortland, Auburn, Geneva)
 
 In the winter flocks, birds are foraging in open fields and off familiar 
 areas.  During foraging, flocks offer some safety in numbers to detect 
 predators in day (hawks, hunters, whatever).  At night the flocks flock 
 up still more in places that offer good roosting sites, which probably 
 includes wind breaks, places from which owls can be detected at night. So 
 they are probably gathering both for safety in numbers and also because 
 they all agree on what makes a good site.  Cities may offer fewer 
 predators, but also the lights may allow them to see the predators.  
 Finally roosting in flocks that include birds that have sampled food 
 sources widely may allow birds to find new food sources, perhaps by 
 following the most assured and directed birds leaving the roost.
 
 So--Upstate NY has its own crows and is ideally positioned for northern 
 crows--so flocks become big.  They like the agricultural fields 
 interspersed with trees and lots of running water sources (which may be 
 important in cold winters)...and we also offer lots of smaller cities, with 
 large groups of lit trees in their downtowns or college campuses. These 
 seem to be attractive.
 
 Mid-late March is the start of the breeding season and flocking crows will 
 be returning to their breeding latitudes.  Our Ithaca pairs are already 
 calling on territory during daytimes.
 
 As I say, some of this story is surmised from the patterns, not pinned down 
 with hard data on individuals!  We know what our tagged birds do, when we 
 can follow them.  But we would love to have gps data coming in from our 
 birds, such as the snowy owls and golden eagles give their researchers.  
 Bring on the Tiny Tags!
 
 Anne
 
 On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Sue Rakow wrote:
 
 I observed the murder of crows on Sunday evening. It was stunning. I would 
 like to know more about why they gather in such large groups. Are they on 
 the move or are they local? Can anyone help me understand?
 Thanks.
 Sue Rakow
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

2014-03-04 Thread Linda Orkin
No according to ask.com it's an actual alternative.  Spread it far and wide.

Linda


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, J. Sullivan blueheron...@yahoo.com wrote:

 MUSTER .

 Would that be only used among us locals?

 Jae

 On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sue, thanks for enjoying the list and for being so eager to learn.  All of
 us who admire, respect and enjoy crows are trying to retire the collective
 noun of murder as it can either imply that crows are evil or that they
 should be murdered.  Another term could be Congress of crows (which in this
 day and age can also be pejorative) or can also be a Muster.  Which would
 seem appropriate especially at this time of year as they gather or when
 they all raucously mob a Great-horned Owl.  I like Muster, the definition
 is apropos.

 Keep watching!!!

 Linda Orkin
 Ithaca, NY


 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Sue Rakow sue.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is very helpful information! Thank  you so much for the complete
 picture. I am learning so much from being on this list serve. I am very
 grateful!
 Sue Rakow


 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

 These groups are winter roosts, and they are nothing new in crow life.
  Despite what urban residents sometimes think, crows didn't start gathering
 when we set out cities for them to use.  Roosting in groups at any time of
 year may offer safety in numbers from night predators, such as Great Horned
 Owls.

 In winter, birds living in northern areas that usually have constant
 snow cover for months do migrate south--Canada, areas of New England.
  Crows don't necessarily have a particular area they migrate TO.  They may
 go as far as an area that is usually ok for foraging, perhaps one that they
 are familiar with from previous migrations.  There they form flocks that
 are made up of migrants as well as wide-foraging locals.  If it gets
 unusually snowy and cold, they may move further south.  (We really don't
 know much of the repeat migratory routes of individual crows.  We do know
 that birds tagged in Ithaca in winter are then seen on territories in
 Canada, VT, New Hampshire in summer, and that some birds RAISED in Ithaca
 have been observed or shot in winter, in such places as Maryland, West VA,
 and Pennsylvania, as well as in Cortland, Auburn, Geneva)

 In the winter flocks, birds are foraging in open fields and off familiar
 areas.  During foraging, flocks offer some safety in numbers to detect
 predators in day (hawks, hunters, whatever).  At night the flocks flock
 up still more in places that offer good roosting sites, which probably
 includes wind breaks, places from which owls can be detected at night. So
 they are probably gathering both for safety in numbers and also because
 they all agree on what makes a good site.  Cities may offer fewer
 predators, but also the lights may allow them to see the predators.
  Finally roosting in flocks that include birds that have sampled food
 sources widely may allow birds to find new food sources, perhaps by
 following the most assured and directed birds leaving the roost.

 So--Upstate NY has its own crows and is ideally positioned for northern
 crows--so flocks become big.  They like the agricultural fields
 interspersed with trees and lots of running water sources (which may be
 important in cold winters)...and we also offer lots of smaller cities, with
 large groups of lit trees in their downtowns or college campuses. These
 seem to be attractive.

 Mid-late March is the start of the breeding season and flocking crows
 will be returning to their breeding latitudes.  Our Ithaca pairs are
 already calling on territory during daytimes.

 As I say, some of this story is surmised from the patterns, not pinned
 down with hard data on individuals!  We know what our tagged birds do, when
 we can follow them.  But we would love to have gps data coming in from our
 birds, such as the snowy owls and golden eagles give their researchers.
  Bring on the Tiny Tags!

 Anne

 On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Sue Rakow wrote:

 I observed the murder of crows on Sunday evening. It was stunning. I
 would like to know more about why they gather in such large groups. Are
 they on the move or are they local? Can anyone help me understand?
 Thanks.
 Sue Rakow
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[cayugabirds-l] SEOWs Leach and City Hill Rds Penn Yan

2014-03-04 Thread Katlyn Hojnacki
Last night while conducting a SEOW survey on Leach Rd in Penn Yan, I was 
approached by a fellow birder who informed me that he had spotted TWO 
SHORT-EARED OWLS on Leach Rd by the railroad tracks and EIGHT SHORT-EARED OWLS 
on City Hill Rd, near where Henderson Rd ends (the eastern end). I did not see 
the two owls by the railroad tracks, but spotted one SEOW further down Leach 
Rd, on the northside just past Flynn Rd. When I headed over to City Hill Rd, I 
was able to located THREE SEOWs, one of which was in a small field close to the 
road, just west of Henderson Rd.
 
Kaytee


 
 
 
 
 
 
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New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
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585/226-6323 fax
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

2014-03-04 Thread jensdreamb
Recently, I found 2 dead crows near each other.  I was surprised to find this.  
Is this unusual?



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To: Sue Rakow sue.ra...@gmail.com
Cc: Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com; cayugabirds Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu
Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 11:02 am
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill




Sue, thanks for enjoying the list and for being so eager to learn.  All of us 
who admire, respect and enjoy crows are trying to retire the collective noun of 
murder as it can either imply that crows are evil or that they should be 
murdered.  Another term could be Congress of crows (which in this day and age 
can also be pejorative) or can also be a Muster.  Which would seem appropriate 
especially at this time of year as they gather or when they all raucously mob a 
Great-horned Owl.  I like Muster, the definition is apropos.  


Keep watching!!!


Linda Orkin

Ithaca, NY




On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Sue Rakow sue.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

This is very helpful information! Thank  you so much for the complete picture. 
I am learning so much from being on this list serve. I am very grateful!
Sue Rakow





On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

These groups are winter roosts, and they are nothing new in crow life.  
Despite what urban residents sometimes think, crows didn't start gathering when 
we set out cities for them to use.  Roosting in groups at any time of year may 
offer safety in numbers from night predators, such as Great Horned Owls.  


In winter, birds living in northern areas that usually have constant snow cover 
for months do migrate south--Canada, areas of New England.  Crows don't 
necessarily have a particular area they migrate TO.  They may go as far as an 
area that is usually ok for foraging, perhaps one that they are familiar with 
from previous migrations.  There they form flocks that are made up of migrants 
as well as wide-foraging locals.  If it gets unusually snowy and cold, they may 
move further south.  (We really don't know much of the repeat migratory routes 
of individual crows.  We do know that birds tagged in Ithaca in winter are then 
seen on territories in Canada, VT, New Hampshire in summer, and that some birds 
RAISED in Ithaca have been observed or shot in winter, in such places as 
Maryland, West VA, and Pennsylvania, as well as in Cortland, Auburn, Geneva)


In the winter flocks, birds are foraging in open fields and off familiar areas. 
 During foraging, flocks offer some safety in numbers to detect predators in 
day (hawks, hunters, whatever).  At night the flocks flock up still more in 
places that offer good roosting sites, which probably includes wind breaks, 
places from which owls can be detected at night. So they are probably gathering 
both for safety in numbers and also because they all agree on what makes a good 
site.  Cities may offer fewer predators, but also the lights may allow them to 
see the predators.  Finally roosting in flocks that include birds that have 
sampled food sources widely may allow birds to find new food sources, perhaps 
by following the most assured and directed birds leaving the roost.


So--Upstate NY has its own crows and is ideally positioned for northern 
crows--so flocks become big.  They like the agricultural fields interspersed 
with trees and lots of running water sources (which may be important in cold 
winters)...and we also offer lots of smaller cities, with large groups of lit 
trees in their downtowns or college campuses. These seem to be attractive.


Mid-late March is the start of the breeding season and flocking crows will be 
returning to their breeding latitudes.  Our Ithaca pairs are already calling on 
territory during daytimes.


As I say, some of this story is surmised from the patterns, not pinned down 
with hard data on individuals!  We know what our tagged birds do, when we can 
follow them.  But we would love to have gps data coming in from our birds, such 
as the snowy owls and golden eagles give their researchers.  Bring on the Tiny 
Tags!


Anne



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I observed the murder of crows on Sunday evening. It was stunning. I would like 
to know more about why they gather in such large groups. Are they on the move 
or are they local? Can anyone help me understand?
Thanks.
Sue Rakow


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[cayugabirds-l] Cedar waxwings

2014-03-04 Thread W. Larry Hymes
This morning a flock of around 50 CEDAR WAXWINGS were flying about our 
neighborhood, most feeding on the dried fruit of our neighbor's Korean 
Ash.  All the birds had beautiful coloration.  I could not find any 
Bohemians among them.  What I found particularly fascinating was that 
many were feeding on snow in our silver maple tree (and probably 
elsewhere).  My question for the expert birders:  were the birds 
consuming snow as a way to dilute the juice (fermented?) that had become 
concentrated in the shriveled fruit?


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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Cedar waxwings

2014-03-04 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
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[mailto:bounce-112894308-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of W. Larry Hymes
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:52 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Cedar waxwings

were the birds consuming snow as a way to dilute the juice (fermented?) that 
had become concentrated in the shriveled fruit?

No.  They were thirsty.  There is no juice, fermented or otherwise, in dried 
fruit.  Have you ever gotten drunk from eating raisins?  ;^)

Best,

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

2014-03-04 Thread Ann Mitchell
I agree, Linda. Muster seems quite appropriate. Thanks.


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:11 PM, jensdre...@aol.com wrote:

 Recently, I found 2 dead crows near each other.  I was surprised to find
 this.  Is this unusual?


 -Original Message-
 From: Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.com
 To: Sue Rakow sue.ra...@gmail.com
 Cc: Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com; cayugabirds 
 Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu
 Sent: Tue, Mar 4, 2014 11:02 am
 Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows on South Hill

   Sue, thanks for enjoying the list and for being so eager to learn.  All
 of us who admire, respect and enjoy crows are trying to retire the
 collective noun of murder as it can either imply that crows are evil or
 that they should be murdered.  Another term could be Congress of crows
 (which in this day and age can also be pejorative) or can also be a
 Muster.  Which would seem appropriate especially at this time of year as
 they gather or when they all raucously mob a Great-horned Owl.  I like
 Muster, the definition is apropos.

  Keep watching!!!

  Linda Orkin
  Ithaca, NY


 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Sue Rakow sue.ra...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is very helpful information! Thank  you so much for the complete
 picture. I am learning so much from being on this list serve. I am very
 grateful!
 Sue Rakow


 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:

 These groups are winter roosts, and they are nothing new in crow life.
  Despite what urban residents sometimes think, crows didn't start gathering
 when we set out cities for them to use.  Roosting in groups at any time of
 year may offer safety in numbers from night predators, such as Great Horned
 Owls.

  In winter, birds living in northern areas that usually have constant
 snow cover for months do migrate south--Canada, areas of New England.
  Crows don't necessarily have a particular area they migrate TO.  They may
 go as far as an area that is usually ok for foraging, perhaps one that they
 are familiar with from previous migrations.  There they form flocks that
 are made up of migrants as well as wide-foraging locals.  If it gets
 unusually snowy and cold, they may move further south.  (We really don't
 know much of the repeat migratory routes of individual crows.  We do know
 that birds tagged in Ithaca in winter are then seen on territories in
 Canada, VT, New Hampshire in summer, and that some birds RAISED in Ithaca
 have been observed or shot in winter, in such places as Maryland, West VA,
 and Pennsylvania, as well as in Cortland, Auburn, Geneva)

  In the winter flocks, birds are foraging in open fields and off
 familiar areas.  During foraging, flocks offer some safety in numbers to
 detect predators in day (hawks, hunters, whatever).  At night the flocks
 flock up still more in places that offer good roosting sites, which
 probably includes wind breaks, places from which owls can be detected at
 night. So they are probably gathering both for safety in numbers and also
 because they all agree on what makes a good site.  Cities may offer fewer
 predators, but also the lights may allow them to see the predators.
  Finally roosting in flocks that include birds that have sampled food
 sources widely may allow birds to find new food sources, perhaps by
 following the most assured and directed birds leaving the roost.

  So--Upstate NY has its own crows and is ideally positioned for
 northern crows--so flocks become big.  They like the agricultural fields
 interspersed with trees and lots of running water sources (which may be
 important in cold winters)...and we also offer lots of smaller cities, with
 large groups of lit trees in their downtowns or college campuses. These
 seem to be attractive.

  Mid-late March is the start of the breeding season and flocking crows
 will be returning to their breeding latitudes.  Our Ithaca pairs are
 already calling on territory during daytimes.

  As I say, some of this story is surmised from the patterns, not pinned
 down with hard data on individuals!  We know what our tagged birds do, when
 we can follow them.  But we would love to have gps data coming in from our
 birds, such as the snowy owls and golden eagles give their researchers.
  Bring on the Tiny Tags!

  Anne

   On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Sue Rakow wrote:

I observed the murder of crows on Sunday evening. It was stunning. I
 would like to know more about why they gather in such large groups. Are
 they on the move or are they local? Can anyone help me understand?
 Thanks.
 Sue Rakow
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[cayugabirds-l] Cayuga Lake, east side

2014-03-04 Thread Dave Nutter
This afternoon Ann Mitchell  I birded the east side of Cayuga Lake. Before we left Ithaca, we toured the Northside neighborhood in quest of FISH CROWS, and we eventually heard and saw at least 2 among AMERICAN CROWS near the sadly twice-defunct grocery store at First  Hancock Streets.We skipped East Shore Park because the ice edge was by the houses to the north. Our first stop along the lake was Ladoga Park Rd, where we expected open water, but were surprised to see the entire bight from Portland Point to Myers Point iced over, except for a distant lead and 3 small and crowded polynyas, which still made for good birding. One of these openings was south of Ladoga along the shore where perhaps a stream comes in. Two others were near the south side of the Finger Lakes Marine Service marina next to Myers Point Park, and there was a small area of open water within that marina as well. A birder we met there said a huge ice floe floated north to help create the shelf. Birds at those openings included at least 14 NORTHERN PINTAILS, several AMERICAN WIGEON, RED-BREASTED MERGANSER, COMMON GOLDENEYE, all 5 usual Aythya, AMERICAN COOT, CANADA GEESE, MALLARDS and AMERICAN BLACK DUCKS. Out on the open water, better seen from the lighthouse, were 2 LONG-TAILED DUCKS, 31 WHITE-WINGED SCOTERS, and lots of COMMON GOLDENEYE. North of Myers Point was a distant raft of mixed Aythya and in the cove north of Salt Point were more ducks in good variety. The 3 usual gull species rested on the icy shoals north of the mouth of Salmon Creek. We skipped north to Union Springs, which was iced in, and then headed back south. Highlights at the Mill Pond in Union Springs included one each continuing RED-NECKED GREBE, HORNED GREBE, and male WOOD DUCK ( the latter flew, perhaps to the outlet stream, shortly after I found him). A female GREEN-WINGED TEAL tried to hide in the Factory Street Pond. There were great looks at GADWALL, AMERICAN WIGEON, REDHEAD, TUNDRA SWAN, and BUFFLEHEAD in these ponds. From the cliffs by Mackenzie-Childs we saw 7 each HORNED and RED-NECKED GREBES, 2 pairs of MUTE SWANS and 9 or more TUNDRA SWANS. There were plenty of ducks at the Wells College Boathouse, but a dearth of grebes. Long Point State Park had 13 HORNED and 2 RED-NECKED GREBES, 20 WHITE-WINGED SCOTERS, a distant pair of NORTHERN PINTAIL, lots of CANVASBACKS, and a nice variety of other ducks. In the cedar-strewn woods north of Long Point State Park we saw a single YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER as well as a CAROLINA WREN, and several EASTERN BLUEBIRDS with the more usual winter woods birds. From here south through Lansing, we saw occasional groups of AMERICAN ROBINS in trees and in spread-out flying flocks. At 5:30pm as we drove past the fields between Long Point State Park and the Long Point Winery, and we saw 1 SHORT-EARED OWL atop a power pole.Despite today's cold temperatures it was great birding because the low winds made the lake calm and the wind chill tolerable just long enough to give the lake a decent scan. But we couldn't find Carl 
Steckler's Surf Scoters, so we'll have to be content with his fine 
photos for now. --Dave Nutter
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Cayuga Lake, east side

2014-03-04 Thread Dave Nutter
Forgot to mention: Thanks to a hot tip from another birder at Myers Point, we saw the lovely EASTERN SCREECH-OWL framed by a large oval knot-hole in a dead tree below the orchards on Sweazey Rd in Lansing.--Dave NutterOn Mar 04, 2014, at 09:37 PM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote:This afternoon Ann Mitchell  I birded the east side of Cayuga Lake. Before we left Ithaca, we toured the Northside neighborhood in quest of FISH CROWS, and we eventually heard and saw at least 2 among AMERICAN CROWS near the sadly twice-defunct grocery store at First  Hancock Streets.We skipped East Shore Park because the ice edge was by the houses to the north. Our first stop along the lake was Ladoga Park Rd, where we expected open water, but were surprised to see the entire bight from Portland Point to Myers Point iced over, except for a distant lead and 3 small and crowded polynyas, which still made for good birding. One of these openings was south of Ladoga along the shore where perhaps a stream comes in. Two others were near the south side of the Finger Lakes Marine Service marina next to Myers Point Park, and there was a small area of open water within that marina as well. A birder we met there said a huge ice floe floated north to help create the shelf. Birds at those openings included at least 14 NORTHERN PINTAILS, several AMERICAN WIGEON, RED-BREASTED MERGANSER, COMMON GOLDENEYE, all 5 usual Aythya, AMERICAN COOT, CANADA GEESE, MALLARDS and AMERICAN BLACK DUCKS. Out on the open water, better seen from the lighthouse, were 2 LONG-TAILED DUCKS, 31 WHITE-WINGED SCOTERS, and lots of COMMON GOLDENEYE. North of Myers Point was a distant raft of mixed Aythya and in the cove north of Salt Point were more ducks in good variety. The 3 usual gull species rested on the icy shoals north of the mouth of Salmon Creek. We skipped north to Union Springs, which was iced in, and then headed back south. Highlights at the Mill Pond in Union Springs included one each continuing RED-NECKED GREBE, HORNED GREBE, and male WOOD DUCK ( the latter flew, perhaps to the outlet stream, shortly after I found him). A female GREEN-WINGED TEAL tried to hide in the Factory Street Pond. There were great looks at GADWALL, AMERICAN WIGEON, REDHEAD, TUNDRA SWAN, and BUFFLEHEAD in these ponds. From the cliffs by Mackenzie-Childs we saw 7 each HORNED and RED-NECKED GREBES, 2 pairs of MUTE SWANS and 9 or more TUNDRA SWANS. There were plenty of ducks at the Wells College Boathouse, but a dearth of grebes. Long Point State Park had 13 HORNED and 2 RED-NECKED GREBES, 20 WHITE-WINGED SCOTERS, a distant pair of NORTHERN PINTAIL, lots of CANVASBACKS, and a nice variety of other ducks. In the cedar-strewn woods north of Long Point State Park we saw a single YELLOW-RUMPED WARBLER as well as a CAROLINA WREN, and several EASTERN BLUEBIRDS with the more usual winter woods birds. From here south through Lansing, we saw occasional groups of AMERICAN ROBINS in trees and in spread-out flying flocks. At 5:30pm as we drove past the fields between Long Point State Park and the Long Point Winery, and we saw 1 SHORT-EARED OWL atop a power pole.Despite today's cold temperatures it was great birding because the low winds made the lake calm and the wind chill tolerable just long enough to give the lake a decent scan. But we couldn't find Carl Steckler's Surf Scoters, so we'll have to be content with his fine photos for now. --Dave Nutter--
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