[cayugabirds-l] Am. Robins
Hi all, In about 2 min I saw 48 robins fly from Mundy Wildflower garden direction over my building. Actually 48 one returned back to Mundy. I think they were heading towards buckthorn trees at the junction of Judd Falls and Campus Road vicinity. Cheers Meena Dr. Meena Haribal Boyce Thompson Institute Ithaca NY 14850 Ph: 607-3011167 http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ http://haribal.org/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Am. Robins
I don't know why they have chosen our sanctuary. Perhaps because we are surrounded by thousands of acres of agribusiness monoculture. For the last several days our spruce and pine plantations have been host to a remarkable dawn and dusk flight of robins and red-wings. They come in to roost at dusk and fly off at dawn. Beyond counting, the numbers are in the thousands.It's a beautiful sight and a wonderful reward for a vision of creating habitat that came some 28 years ago. john -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/ Conserve and Create Habitat On Thu, March 27, 2014 08:55, Meena Madhav Haribal wrote: Hi all, In about 2 min I saw 48 robins fly from Mundy Wildflower garden direction over my building. Actually 48 one returned back to Mundy. I think they were heading towards buckthorn trees at the junction of Judd Falls and Campus Road vicinity. Cheers Meena Dr. Meena Haribal Boyce Thompson Institute Ithaca NY 14850 Ph: 607-3011167 http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ http://haribal.org/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest?
I noticed that an Osprey platform has been installed on the hill above Myers Point. There are already two nests in the area, the first on a pole within the Cargill mining complex at Portland Point, which Robin Bailey's husband Paul (whose last name I forget, sorry), who works with NYSEG, provided with a platform after the nest sticks touched live wires and caused a fire. The second is at Salt Point, on a platform and pole installed for the purpose. They are about a mile apart, and this new platform is midway between them. At the south end of the lake, in Allan H Treman State Marine Park in the field east of the Hog Hole, there is another Osprey platform and pole. It took a few years to become occupied, but since has produced young multiple years. I just got word from Rick Manning, "Friends of Stewart Park was just notified by Jeanne Grace, city forester, that NYSEG wants to install an osprey nest or two in the park." I'm wondering what people's thought are about how many Osprey platforms would be appropriate at the south end of the lake and where? By the way, I've seen a young Bald Eagle perch on the platform at Treman a couple times, but it was skittish and left when it noticed me. I wonder whether Bald Eagles are likely to take over Osprey platforms the way they did on the power pylon by Mud Lock for several years. If so, it would be good to have a place for those Ospreys to go.--Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Am. Robins
I just finished a run in the arboretum. They are feeding on the remnants of small ornamental crabapples In the company of some cedar waxwings. Linda Orkin Wildflower Garden Parking Lot Ithaca NY Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Meena Madhav Haribal m...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi all, In about 2 min I saw 48 robins fly from Mundy Wildflower garden direction over my building. Actually 48 one returned back to Mundy. I think they were heading towards buckthorn trees at the junction of Judd Falls and Campus Road vicinity. Cheers Meena Dr. Meena Haribal Boyce Thompson Institute Ithaca NY 14850 Ph: 607-3011167 http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ http://haribal.org/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Am. Robins
Spectacular mind's eye image. Thank you. For thatand the habitat. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:09 AM, John and Sue Gregoire k...@empacc.net wrote: I don't know why they have chosen our sanctuary. Perhaps because we are surrounded by thousands of acres of agribusiness monoculture. For the last several days our spruce and pine plantations have been host to a remarkable dawn and dusk flight of robins and red-wings. They come in to roost at dusk and fly off at dawn. Beyond counting, the numbers are in the thousands.It's a beautiful sight and a wonderful reward for a vision of creating habitat that came some 28 years ago. john -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/ Conserve and Create Habitat On Thu, March 27, 2014 08:55, Meena Madhav Haribal wrote: Hi all, In about 2 min I saw 48 robins fly from Mundy Wildflower garden direction over my building. Actually 48 one returned back to Mundy. I think they were heading towards buckthorn trees at the junction of Judd Falls and Campus Road vicinity. Cheers Meena Dr. Meena Haribal Boyce Thompson Institute Ithaca NY 14850 Ph: 607-3011167 http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ http://haribal.org/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Seneca Lake, Monday (late) - Eu. Wigeon, Ross's Goose
Birding the Geneva waterfront on Monday with Jim Tarolli, we found a Eurasian Wigeon at Seneca Lake State Park and had a flyover Ross's Goose with a few Snows. Also a N. Shrike and many thousands of geese at close range. I'll put up a folder of photo highlights. David Wheeler N. Syracuse, NY -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest?
Saturating an area with platforms attractive to Ospreys might be a useful strategy for reducing unwanted nest-building on utility installations. -Geo On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: I'm wondering what people's thought are about how many Osprey platforms would be appropriate at the south end of the lake and where? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest?
My question is not just about Osprey interactions, and potential Bald Eagle takeover, but also about food supply and about human interactions. I was surprised Ospreys used the platform at Treman with so many people and dogs around it, but the platform is at the center of the field, and the people and dogs stay on the perimeter path. At Stewart Park activities are more diverse and occur in many areas of the park. Where, for instance, are the fireworks set off? How much disruption would a music festival create? I'm not saying we shouldn't have one or more platform(s), but what placement(s) are most apt to succeed? And one aspect of success is the public seeing the Ospreys at the platform.--Dave NutterOn Mar 27, 2014, at 09:18 AM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote:I noticed that an Osprey platform has been installed on the hill above Myers Point. There are already two nests in the area, the first on a pole within the Cargill mining complex at Portland Point, which Robin Bailey's husband Paul (whose last name I forget, sorry), who works with NYSEG, provided with a platform after the nest sticks touched live wires and caused a fire. The second is at Salt Point, on a platform and pole installed for the purpose. They are about a mile apart, and this new platform is midway between them. At the south end of the lake, in Allan H Treman State Marine Park in the field east of the Hog Hole, there is another Osprey platform and pole. It took a few years to become occupied, but since has produced young multiple years. I just got word from Rick Manning, "Friends of Stewart Park was just notified by Jeanne Grace, city forester, that NYSEG wants to install an osprey nest or two in the park." I'm wondering what people's thought are about how many Osprey platforms would be appropriate at the south end of the lake and where? By the way, I've seen a young Bald Eagle perch on the platform at Treman a couple times, but it was skittish and left when it noticed me. I wonder whether Bald Eagles are likely to take over Osprey platforms the way they did on the power pylon by Mud Lock for several years. If so, it would be good to have a place for those Ospreys to go.--Dave Nutter--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and BasicsRules and InformationSubscribe, Configuration and LeaveArchives:The Mail ArchiveSurfbirdsBirdingOnThe.NetPlease submit your observations to eBird!-- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
[cayugabirds-l] Swans at mouth of Yawgers Creek
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest?
Hi All. My first thought is of the 6 or 7 nests on adjacent power poles along Rte 5/20 near the Montezuma NWR. Also, I have seen at least two active osprey nests on the same power tower in N Carolina. At Caumsett State Park on L.I., an osprey platform was occupied one year by a Canada goose family. Near Sandy Hook, NJ, a platform was used as a nest site by a Great Horned Owl. The owl nesting was done by the time the ospreys showed up. On L.I., there was a nest of house finches immediately below an active osprey nest. My point is, I don't think proximity to other nest platforms is a deterrent to ospreys and may even provide some surprise nesters. Is there a down side? For the ospreys, the limiting factor would be food availability. If the fish supply dwindles, the birds will go elsewhere. For humans, the presence of more raptors means more opportunities to observe how the natural world works, and that is not a bad thing. My vote would be for more platforms. Bill McAneny, TBurg _ From: bounce-113698130-7495...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-113698130-7495...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Nutter Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:18 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest? I noticed that an Osprey platform has been installed on the hill above Myers Point. There are already two nests in the area, the first on a pole within the Cargill mining complex at Portland Point, which Robin Bailey's husband Paul (whose last name I forget, sorry), who works with NYSEG, provided with a platform after the nest sticks touched live wires and caused a fire. The second is at Salt Point, on a platform and pole installed for the purpose. They are about a mile apart, and this new platform is midway between them. At the south end of the lake, in Allan H Treman State Marine Park in the field east of the Hog Hole, there is another Osprey platform and pole. It took a few years to become occupied, but since has produced young multiple years. I just got word from Rick Manning, Friends of Stewart Park was just notified by Jeanne Grace, city forester, that NYSEG wants to install an osprey nest or two in the park. I'm wondering what people's thought are about how many Osprey platforms would be appropriate at the south end of the lake and where? By the way, I've seen a young Bald Eagle perch on the platform at Treman a couple times, but it was skittish and left when it noticed me. I wonder whether Bald Eagles are likely to take over Osprey platforms the way they did on the power pylon by Mud Lock for several years. If so, it would be good to have a place for those Ospreys to go. --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html The Mail Archive http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds Surfbirds http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ ! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest?
Hi All, To add my two bits to the conversation, I have seen a third Osprey circling over both the Portland Point nest and the Salt Point nest, while both parents and young were occupying the nests. My thoughts at the time were that it was possibly a floater adult (or two separate floaters) who had not found a nest site yet, and was looking for one to take over. Maybe the bird(s) did not have a take-over in mind, but there are nevertheless additional Ospreys in the area that are looking for places to breed. The new platform on the hill above Myers is meant to provide a nesting site for the third hoverer who likes to visit the other two established pairs. With regards to Stewart Park, I have heard that an Osprey was seen trying (unsuccessfully) to pile sticks on top of a light post in a ball field. That sounds to me like they are trying to build a nest there anyway, and that maybe they could use a platform. At any rate, discussions are underway for whether a platform could go there as well. According to Paul, they were thinking of the point of land across the inlet from the old boathouse, visible for interested parties but well away from Stewart Park activity. Like Bill, I think they are just limited by food availability and are not particularly territorial. I don't find the platforms to be an eyesore; on the contrary, it thrills me to see a raptor on the rebound, once rare in our community, but now coming back with a little help. And, like Geo mentions, part of the benefits to more platforms is that it may help avoid power line fires, which are dangerous for both birds and people. So bring on the Ospreys (or Bald Eagles, or Great Horned Owls)! Best, Robyn Bailey Lansing From: bounce-113699659-15067...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-113699659-15067...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Mcaneny Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:26 AM To: 'Dave Nutter'; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest? Hi All. My first thought is of the 6 or 7 nests on adjacent power poles along Rte 5/20 near the Montezuma NWR. Also, I have seen at least two active osprey nests on the same power tower in N Carolina. At Caumsett State Park on L.I., an osprey platform was occupied one year by a Canada goose family. Near Sandy Hook, NJ, a platform was used as a nest site by a Great Horned Owl. The owl nesting was done by the time the ospreys showed up. On L.I., there was a nest of house finches immediately below an active osprey nest. My point is, I don't think proximity to other nest platforms is a deterrent to ospreys and may even provide some surprise nesters. Is there a down side? For the ospreys, the limiting factor would be food availability. If the fish supply dwindles, the birds will go elsewhere. For humans, the presence of more raptors means more opportunities to observe how the natural world works, and that is not a bad thing. My vote would be for more platforms. Bill McAneny, TBurg -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest?
Dave, Good question. To help ospreys repopulate the NE, we need to supply them with ample nesting platforms. How many platforms should be built? In my opinion, the short answer is as many as the ospreys need. Cayuga Lake is large enough to support a number of osprey populations concentrated at the shallow north and south ends and in areas where there is a shallow shelf extending into the lake, as in Lansing. They are semi-colonial and will nest near other osprey provided there is enough fish. BTW Paul Paradine is the NYSEG's regional forester you referred to. How do you define the south end of the lake? The Stewart Park and marina area or are you including Lansing? I think the shallow south end of the lake can support at least one if not more osprey platforms in addition to the one at Case Park. There's a good supply of salmon, rainbow trout, brook trout, lake trout, and northern pike in the spring and ample panfish in the summer, and ospreys tolerate a fair amount of human activities near their nests. However, the platforms would have to be placed a distance from any fireworks displays and not be situated in the midst of the festival grounds. (The ospreys at Salt Point last year were not perturbed by weekly music nights or the Lansing Harborfest celebration held across Salmon Creek in Myers Park.) The Lansing area, with its shallow offshore shelf and many feeder streams, is another area capable of sustaining an osprey population. There is ample food and habitat to support three nests and at least a few more along the shelf heading north. I just saw Robyn's post as I was typing and I echo her sentiments--let's welcome as many ospreys, eagles, and great horned owls that will put up with us silly humans. Candace On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Candace Cornell cec...@gmail.com wrote: Dave, Good question. To help ospreys repopulate the NE, we need to supply them with ample nesting platforms. How many platforms should be built? In my opinion, the short answer is as many as the ospreys need. Cayuga Lake is large enough to support a number of osprey populations concentrated at the shallow north and south ends and in areas where there is a shallow shelf extending into the lake, as in Lansing. They are semi-colonial and will nest near other osprey provided there is enough fish. BTW Paul Paradine is the NYSEG's regional forester you referred to. How do you define the south end of the lake? The Stewart Park and marina area or are you including Lansing? I think the shallow south end of the lake can support at least one if not more osprey platforms in addition to the one at Case Park. There's a good supply of salmon, rainbow trout, brook trout, lake trout, and northern pike in the spring and ample panfish in the summer, and ospreys tolerate a fair amount of human activities near their nests. However, the platforms would have to be placed a distance from any fireworks displays and not be situated in the midst of the festival grounds. (The ospreys at Salt Point last year were not perturbed by weekly music nights or the Lansing Harborfest celebration held across Salmon Creek in Myers Park.) The Lansing area, with its shallow offshore shelf and many feeder streams, is another area capable of sustaining an osprey population. There is ample food and habitat to support three nests and at least a few more along the shelf heading north. I just saw Robyn's post as I was typing and I echo her sentiments--let's welcome as many ospreys, eagles, and great horned owls that will put up with us silly humans. Candace On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Dave Nutter nutter.d...@me.com wrote: I noticed that an Osprey platform has been installed on the hill above Myers Point. There are already two nests in the area, the first on a pole within the Cargill mining complex at Portland Point, which Robin Bailey's husband Paul (whose last name I forget, sorry), who works with NYSEG, provided with a platform after the nest sticks touched live wires and caused a fire. The second is at Salt Point, on a platform and pole installed for the purpose. They are about a mile apart, and this new platform is midway between them. At the south end of the lake, in Allan H Treman State Marine Park in the field east of the Hog Hole, there is another Osprey platform and pole. It took a few years to become occupied, but since has produced young multiple years. I just got word from Rick Manning, Friends of Stewart Park was just notified by Jeanne Grace, city forester, that NYSEG wants to install an osprey nest or two in the park. I'm wondering what people's thought are about how many Osprey platforms would be appropriate at the south end of the lake and where? By the way, I've seen a young Bald Eagle perch on the platform at Treman a couple times, but it was skittish and left when it noticed me. I wonder whether Bald Eagles are likely to take over Osprey platforms the way they did on the power
RE: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest?
I was very much involved with Bald Eagle and Osprey restoration in the greater Chesapeake Bay region in the 70s and early 80s. We went from a paucity of birds and nests of both species (I could get all my banding done in under two weeks with days off) thanks to DDT. During the course of those many years we investigated the same questions/ comments I'm reading here today. The upshot was that this many decades later the Chesapeake region of three states boasts a very vibrant population of both. We worried about density of platforms and found inter and intraspecies tolerance to be quite high no matter how we spaced them. Opting for the more is better approach seems to have worked. We had a myriad of concerns from power poles to hunting blinds to navigational aides and more. We also tried many designs. The irony of all this is while Osprey did take to some of our designs/locations, they pretty much nested where they darn well pleased. I remember one dock complaint that had a nice platform made of a tobacco ric base that was mere feet from the end of the dock that the pair selected. We also had Osprey nests within 50 meters of each other which made our job that much easier. Eagles were another matter as they definitely nested where they pleased, usually within very good fishing grounds. We had several nests near a nuclear power plant outflow where the warm water attracted many fish. Getting in there to band is another very long and funny story. Great Horneds seldom made use of Osprey nests and we never saw one in an Eagle nest. they much preferred last season's Red-tail nests which suited their desire for mostly hidden, high, deciduous or pine tree nests with a long view in at least two directions. We've found the same around here. Osprey also chose to nest near good fishing and yes, fish population was the dynamic that allowed for more or fewer pair of both species in any one area. Best, John -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/ Conserve and Create Habitat On Thu, March 27, 2014 12:54, Margaret Boynton Shepard wrote: In the good old days before DDT and decline of fish populations, Ospreys nested at very high densities where food availability allowed. Gardiner's Island, for example, once had several hundred nesting pairs. Another few platforms locally would probably be a good idea. -- Margaret Shepard Lodi From: bounce-113701089-3494...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-113701089-3494...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Robyn Bailey Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:34 PM To: Bill Mcaneny; 'Dave Nutter'; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest? Hi All, To add my two bits to the conversation, I have seen a third Osprey circling over both the Portland Point nest and the Salt Point nest, while both parents and young were occupying the nests. My thoughts at the time were that it was possibly a floater adult (or two separate floaters) who had not found a nest site yet, and was looking for one to take over. Maybe the bird(s) did not have a take-over in mind, but there are nevertheless additional Ospreys in the area that are looking for places to breed. The new platform on the hill above Myers is meant to provide a nesting site for the third hoverer who likes to visit the other two established pairs. With regards to Stewart Park, I have heard that an Osprey was seen trying (unsuccessfully) to pile sticks on top of a light post in a ball field. That sounds to me like they are trying to build a nest there anyway, and that maybe they could use a platform. At any rate, discussions are underway for whether a platform could go there as well. According to Paul, they were thinking of the point of land across the inlet from the old boathouse, visible for interested parties but well away from Stewart Park activity. Like Bill, I think they are just limited by food availability and are not particularly territorial. I don't find the platforms to be an eyesore; on the contrary, it thrills me to see a raptor on the rebound, once rare in our community, but now coming back with a little help. And, like Geo mentions, part of the benefits to more platforms is that it may help avoid power line fires, which are dangerous for both birds and people. So bring on the Ospreys (or Bald Eagles, or Great Horned Owls)! Best, Robyn Bailey Lansing From: bounce-113699659-15067...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-113699659-15067...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-113699659-15067...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Mcaneny Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:26 AM To: 'Dave Nutter'; CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest? Hi All. My first thought is of the 6 or 7 nests on adjacent power poles along Rte 5/20
Re: [cayugabirds-l] How close to one another will Ospreys nest?
The secluded eastern side of the backwater lagoon in the heart of the Renwick Wildwood (some 200 yards up Fall Creek from the pedestrian bridges) might be a location worth considering. -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] ospreys
Hi All. Just another thought, if I may. There was a time in my lifetime (OK, so it was a long time ago) that there was a large osprey colony on Gardiner's Island on Long Island. They nested ON THE GROUND. No need for platforms. Then came the first invasion of Herring Gulls. The unfortunate result was pretty predictable. The gulls destroyed nests, eggs, and chicks. Give the ospreys credit; they invented pole nests. Then the power company tired of putting out fires, so they planted a few old telephone poles and bolted platforms on them. The ospreys were grateful, and remain so today. Bill McAneny -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Snowy owl
Just saw snowy owl on top of red barn on 96A, near Woodworth Rd. Couple miles south of Geneva. David Diaz Tburg Sent from David's iPhone -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] N. Montezuma--Sandhill, others
I went up to Northern Montezuma area to see if the sandhill pair has returned. No sign of them, but I did find a single SANDHILL CRANE hunkered down in the tall grasses off the end of Morgan Rd. It appears to be an immature, as the light-colored area under the eye is dirtyish and not bright white as seen in breeding plumage. It later moved to corn stubble south of Carncross Rd. where it wandered about, appearing disconsolate and staring off to the south, hoping for compatriots. Other sightings for the day included 5 GREAT BLUE HERONS, 6 N. HARRIERS, a pair of BLUE-WINGED TEAL, 7 MEADOWLARKS, hundreds of PINTAILS, and a singing HORNED LARK. The scads of SNOW GEESE continue at the north end of the lake. The illustrative behavior moment occurred at the end of VanDyne Spoor Rd. The wandering tribe of immature BALD EAGLES moved in and settled on the ice. There were 9. I then noticed a mink humping over the ice and headed toward the destructive force of 9 rapacious beaks, and 18 crushing talons. Nothing happened; it went on by. Maybe the eagles were drawing straws. Finally one of them flapped twice and glided silently after the mink. I thought, poor mink. But just as the eagle reached its prey, the mink whirled and leaped at the bird. The eagle veered off and landed on the ice a short distance away. I thought, that couldn't happen again--but it did! Exactly the same sequence with a second eagle. The unscathed mink finally reached the shore. Tough little bugger. Steve Fast Brooktondale -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
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Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
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Subject: EURARIAN WIGEON SW Cayuga Lake Male EURASIAN WIGEON again/still near SW corner Cayuga Lake scoped from Treman. --Dave -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Eurasian Wigeon again
Late this afternoon (27 March) I walked to from my home to Cayuga Lake, where I was surprised to find a single male EURASIAN WIGEON again, 12 days after I first found one there. After a gap of 5 days in reports from the south end of the lake, combined with reports of 1 or 2 by the Village of Cayuga at the north end of the lake starting when Ithaca reports stopped, and 1 at the north end of Seneca Lake, I figured the bird I had found had left. Now it appears that there may be 4 of them in the region. Here's what I wrote about it in my report to eBird:"Scoped fairly far N from NW viewing area on path at Treman, bird located near where I first found it/one on 15 March, although the ice on/near whose edge it had been has disappeared except piles along Treman lakeshore; swimming alone but nearest a pair of American Wigeon (which were farther N than loose Aythya flock): same size body shape, but head down against shoulders, not neck extended; pointed raised black tail (spread/preened some) aft area; white square next to black; pale gray back sides; white horizontal bar of wing; pink breast; round rufous head; creamy forecrown; light colored small bill with dark tip."End of bird report; trivia about communication follows.By the way, that post (below) labeled "1/2" was the first message I sent to Cayugabirds-L more-or-less successfully from my new phone. And the post called "2/2" was the second, I suppose, created because my last name didn't fit in the first. I had tried to post from my phone to Cayugabirds-L the previous time I saw a Eurasian Wigeon on 20 March, but failed because I couldn't convince Lyris that I had given my message a subject line (my old phone just used the body of the message as the subject as well). Perhaps it was only by sending a slightly too-long message that an acceptable subject of "1/2" was created. The body of the message, (minus the mis-spelled subject line) should have gone to the RBA. Since senders to the new RBA don't get a copy, I'd appreciate someone telling me whether it actually went to the RBA. I recently switched to Credo from Verizon out of frustration with the latter's inability to correct billing problems and their support for right-wing politics. As you can see, I'm still getting the hang of the new phone, or maybe I have sacrificed some abilities. Replying from a computer to that address 6072292...@messaging.sprintpcs.commay not get to my phone (at least I haven't succeeded yet), but you can text to my phone number607-229-2158--Dave NutterOn Mar 27, 2014, at 06:56 PM, 6072292...@messaging.sprintpcs.com wrote:Subject: EURARIAN WIGEON SW Cayuga LakeMale EURASIAN WIGEON again/still near SW corner Cayuga Lake scoped from Treman.--Dave -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
[cayugabirds-l] Fantastic movement of snows 3.27.14
After the wind died down came from the south last night, I figured most of the snows would have headed on north but at 3:45 p.m. I was astounded to see the thousands of snows flying eastward from the lake, great nos. right over the house as far as I could see in all directions. At 4 p.m. even greater nos. came. At 4:15 p.m., more came followed by the Canadas. Then at 7 p.m. John came told me to look. The geese were coming back to the lake, wave after wave after wave, as far as we could see. I didn't think to time how long it took for the sky to clear. This is our 22nd winter here. We've seen tremendous nos. of Canadas over the yrs. but the nos. of snows tonight surpassed them. I can't begin to think how many we saw today but surely others would put the nos. at 100,000 perhaps even higher. It was truly unbelievable, esp. to think this is just one lake for the migrating flocks. The snows in the pictures I saw posted on Facebook of a take-off at Canandaigua Lake looked like a white wall that just went on on. Fritzie, Union Springs -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
