Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

[Paul Anderson]

Thanks Geo for this suggestion. I just added this document to the 
Resources section of the CBC website: 
http://www.cayugabirdclub.org/Resources. It's right at the end.

I'm more than happy to accept other suggestions for similar additions.

-Paul

On 3/15/2016 10:13 AM, Geo Kloppel wrote:
> I would like to suggest that the Hayfields & Grassland Birds link 
> below might be a useful addition to the Cayuga Bird Club webpage, so 
> that club members and visitors can easily re-locate this valuable but 
> rather deeply buried resource.
>
> http://www.nysenvirothon.net/Referencesandother/Hayfields_Grassland_Birds.pdf
>
> -Geo
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Geo Kloppel  > wrote:
>
>> Prompted by Mike Palermo to go to the _correct_ section, I find that 
>> the collection of Cooperative Extension documents he shared does 
>> contain just what the livestock guy at Winter Market needs. Readers 
>> can navigate to it as Mike described (you have to hunt for the link 
>> labeled "Hayfields & Grassland Birds", _not_ the one that says 
>> "Fields & Grassland Birds"), but here's a more direct link right to 
>> that section:
>>
>> http://www.nysenvirothon.net/Referencesandother/Hayfields_Grassland_Birds.pdf
>>
>> It's a beautiful treatment, and I thank Mike for his patience in 
>> leading my eye to it.
>>
>> -Geo
>>
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RE:[cayugabirds-l] Cornell publication for help with time to mow fields

[Donna Lee Scott]

I just skimmed the Cornell Cooperative Extension publication "Hayfield 
Management and Grassland Bird Conservation" and I respectfully disagree with 
Geo that it is mostly impractical for a person in the hay farming business.

It provides a discussion of the current research on the nutritional value of 
hay of various ages and talks about tradeoffs a farmer would want to consider 
if he/she cares about helping grassland birds.
It also talks about rotating hayfields for grassland bird conservation and 
other related strategies that consider the whole farm area from year to year.
It is at least a place to start for a farmer to read this publication.

In addition, it shows a plan to mow a field in such a pattern so as to help the 
birds in the grass to escape from the machinery outward through cover to 
adjacent areas, something that some farmers might want to know, no matter when 
they mow.

I am glad to know about this publication, since in the past I don't recall such 
an information source appearing on the Cayuga Bird List when people have asked 
for this kind of advice.
Thanks all for this discussion.

Donna Scott
(former Senior Extension Associate in Food Science/Cooperative Extension at 
Cornell)

Lansing

-Original Message-
From: bounce-120269317-15001...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-120269317-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 5:53 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

The NYDEC and Cornell Cooperative Extension documents that were mentioned seem 
to be oriented toward management for grassland wildlife, so they say that no 
cutting should take place between late April and mid August. That's fine if 
you're managing a nature preserve, but it's probably not practical for people 
in the business of making hay, like the one Michael was talking to at Winter 
Market. Farmers who want guidance about reducing the negative impact of their 
hay making operations on grassland birds need a scheme that recognizes the 
contingencies of avian breeding and the economic constraints of farming.

-Geo

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[cayugabirds-l] Event at Mann Library next week

[Marc Devokaitis]

Hi All:


Passing this to the list on behalf of Mann Library.


*Bird Families of the World: A Guide to the Spectacular Diversity of Birds*

*Chats in the Stacks book talk by David W. Winkler*

*Wednesday, March 23, at 4:00 pm *

*Room 160, Stern Seminar Room, Mann Library*



Many Many  people are captivated by the amazing variety of birds they
see and hear, and observing birds can be a life-enriching pursuit.



To explore avian diversity requires a mental map, a framework that helps us
organize our experiences and observations, and fortunately, the scientific
classification of birds provides exactly what we need. Whether you are an
experienced ornithologist or you have just discovered birding, David
Winkler’s new book serves as an excellent reference guide and learning tool
for understanding both the evolutionary diversity of the world’s birds and
their great variation in appearance, ecology, and behavior.



Join us for a *Chats in the Stacks* book talk with Professor David W.
Winkler, the faculty curator of birds in the Department of Ecology and
Evolutionary Biology, director of the Cornell University Museum of
Vertebrates, and member of Cornell’s Laboratory of Ornithology. *Bird
Families of the World*, published by Lynx Edicions and the Cornell Lab of
Ornithology (December 2015), has been designed to serve both as a text for
ornithology courses and as a resource for bird enthusiasts of all levels.
The work contains hundreds of beautiful color illustrations and photographs
from bird enthusiasts around the globe, as well as paintings of one species
from each of the genera in each family. The book is coauthored by Irby J.
Lovette, Fuller Professor of Ornithology at the Cornell Laboratory of
Ornithology.



Refreshments served and books available for purchase. This event is hosted
by Mann Library.



For more information visit http://mannlib.cornell.edu/events-exhibits.











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[cayugabirds-l] Fields

[Michele Emerick Brown]

The mowing information/resource is very interesting. It seems to be directed to 
people with 15 acres or more. I have a 5 acre field that used to be in hay, but 
which is slowly going to scrub (right now it's mainly goldenrod) because we 
stopped having it cut. Could someone direct me to information to help me figure 
out what would be best for birds? Should I get it cut, leave it alone, plant it 
with something else? I think Red-winged blackbirds usually nest in it.

I live out in Caroline so there are a lot of other fields being rotated between 
corn and hay.

Thanks,
Michele

From: bounce-120268837-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-120268837-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Michael O. Engle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:03 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: RE:[cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

I'm fine with the discussion taking place on the list. I think it would be 
good, in the end, if one person could work directly with the livestock guy I 
talked with to advise/train/support him over time. It's certainly a useful kind 
of knowledge for livestock producers who manage fields for hay. I wonder if the 
county extension folks are a useful resource to help out and provide support 
with this topic.

Michael

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Selector, Olin/Uris Reference and Anglo-American News
106 Olin Library, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
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From: Donna Lee Scott
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 3:39 PM
To: Michael O. Engle >; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>
Subject: RE: help determining the time to mow fields

While I can understand why Michael wants to keep the conversation with the 
livestock person off the list, I think it would benefit many of us if we knew 
what are the recommendations are for when is the best time to mow hay or grass 
fields with regard to protecting nesting grassland birds and their offspring.

I would like this information to be posted on the list.
I often toy with the idea of trying to convince some local landowners here in 
Lansing to mow large grass expanses in later summer, but I don't know what the 
cut-off date is.

Donna L. Scott
Lansing Station Road
Lansing, NY

From: 
bounce-120268126-15001...@list.cornell.edu
 [mailto:bounce-120268126-15001...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Michael O. 
Engle
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:24 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

Hi,

I had a chat with a local livestock raiser at Winter Market this weekend. He 
hays a number of fields and would like some guidance on the best time to do the 
haying to protect birds that nest in the fields he cuts. Please respond to me 
off list, and I will pass his contact information along.

Thanks,

Michael

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] NOW they show.

[Asher Hockett]

Tree Sparrows winter as for south as the northern part of southern states
like Texas and Alabama, so the bird your saw today may be on its way back
to the northern tundra border where they breed. Or it might have been here
all winter and is just waiting for the right conditions to head north. Too
bad they don't talk!

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Bill Mcaneny  wrote:

> Within the last 10 minutes, while looking out my kitchen window, I saw one
> Tree Sparrow, one WB Nuthatch, and three Ravens. Why is this notable?  We
> did FeederWatch Sunday and Monday and saw NONE of these birds!
>
>
>
> Actually, the Tree Sparrow was a surprise.  Haven’t seen any here for a
> week or more.  Are any more still around?
>
>
>
> Bill and Shirley McAneny, TBurg
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[cayugabirds-l] NOW they show.

[Bill Mcaneny]

Within the last 10 minutes, while looking out my kitchen window, I saw one
Tree Sparrow, one WB Nuthatch, and three Ravens. Why is this notable?  We
did FeederWatch Sunday and Monday and saw NONE of these birds! 

 

Actually, the Tree Sparrow was a surprise.  Haven't seen any here for a week
or more.  Are any more still around?

 

Bill and Shirley McAneny, TBurg


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[cayugabirds-l] More Fox Sparrows

[Geo Kloppel]

Several Fox Sparrows have been singing this morning under the impenetrable 
roadside thickets just below the driveway at 227 Tupper Road, West Danby. 

-Geo
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[cayugabirds-l] Killdeer at Stewart Park

[Sandy]

Three circling high and calling over Boynton Middle School and Renwick Woods 
toward Stewart Park this morning. Thought I heard one last Sunday near the boat 
house
And now confirmed.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

[Geo Kloppel]

I would like to suggest that the Hayfields & Grassland Birds link below might 
be a useful addition to the Cayuga Bird Club webpage, so that club members and 
visitors can easily re-locate this valuable but rather deeply buried resource.

http://www.nysenvirothon.net/Referencesandother/Hayfields_Grassland_Birds.pdf

-Geo


> On Mar 15, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Geo Kloppel  wrote:
> 
> Prompted by Mike Palermo to go to the _correct_ section, I find that the 
> collection of Cooperative Extension documents he shared does contain just 
> what the livestock guy at Winter Market needs. Readers can navigate to it as 
> Mike described (you have to hunt for the link labeled "Hayfields & Grassland 
> Birds", _not_ the one that says "Fields & Grassland Birds"), but here's a 
> more direct link right to that section:
> 
> http://www.nysenvirothon.net/Referencesandother/Hayfields_Grassland_Birds.pdf
> 
> It's a beautiful treatment, and I thank Mike for his patience in leading my 
> eye to it.
> 
> -Geo
> 

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] help determining the time to mow fields

[Geo Kloppel]

Prompted by Mike Palermo to go to the _correct_ section, I find that the 
collection of Cooperative Extension documents he shared does contain just what 
the livestock guy at Winter Market needs. Readers can navigate to it as Mike 
described (you have to hunt for the link labeled "Hayfields & Grassland Birds", 
_not_ the one that says "Fields & Grassland Birds"), but here's a more direct 
link right to that section:

http://www.nysenvirothon.net/Referencesandother/Hayfields_Grassland_Birds.pdf

It's a beautiful treatment, and I thank Mike for his patience in leading my eye 
to it.

-Geo


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Re:[cayugabirds-l] cayugabirds-l digest: March 14, 2016

[Hollie Sutherland]

Hi there!

I am currently away from my office and out of WIFI signal. I will be back March 
16 and will respond upon my return.

If you have any questions about the Sustainable Living course please email Lena 
Fletcher lflet...@umass.edu

Thank you,

Hollie Sutherland

On Mar 15, 2016, at 12:04 AM, Upstate NY Birding digest 
 wrote:

> CAYUGABIRDS-L Digest for Monday, March 14, 2016.
> 
> 1. Possible leucistic Canada at SSW
> 2. Re: Possible leucistic Canada at SSW
> 3. RE: Cayuga Bird Club March meeting - Mon., March 14
> 4. RE: Possible leucistic Canada at SSW
> 5. Re: Possible leucistic Canada at SSW
> 6. Re: working on response to City
> 7. TV snacks
> 8. Cayuga Bird Club meeting tonight
> 9. help determining the time to mow fields
> 10. RE: help determining the time to mow fields
> 11. Re: help determining the time to mow fields
> 12. RE: help determining the time to mow fields
> 13. RE: help determining the time to mow fields
> 14. Re: help determining the time to mow fields
> 15. Syracuse RBA
> 16. Re: help determining the time to mow fields
> 17. Sunday Field Trip Report: Around the Lake
> 
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> 
> Subject: Possible leucistic Canada at SSW
> From: Brad Walker 
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:05:39 +
> X-Message-Number: 1
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> There's a possible leucistic Canada Goose at Sapsucker Woods on the pond
> for those that want to take a look. It's either that or a domestic type.
> 
> Brad
> 
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> 
> Subject: Re: Possible leucistic Canada at SSW
> From: "Kenneth V. Rosenberg" 
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:15:35 +
> X-Message-Number: 2
> 
> I saw that goose by the horse farm on Blugrass Lane yesterday. Very large and 
> whitish, but with some "wild-type" markings. Looked mostly domestic but 
> obviously flying around with Canadas.
> 
> Ken
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 14, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Brad Walker 
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> There's a possible leucistic Canada Goose at Sapsucker Woods on the pond for 
> those that want to take a look. It's either that or a domestic type.
> 
> Brad
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> Subject: RE: Cayuga Bird Club March meeting - Mon., March 14
> From: "Kevin J. McGowan" 
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 13:35:51 +
> X-Message-Number: 3
> 
> Apologies to the list.
> 
> Colleen,
> 
> Your email doesn't seem to be working. I was trying to RSVP for dinner, but 
> it bounced twice.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> From: bounce-120261428-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
> [mailto:bounce-120261428-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of cl...@juno.com
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:50 PM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Cayuga Bird Club March meeting - Mon., March 14
> 
> 
> The March Cayuga Bird Club meeting will be this coming Monday, March 14,  at 
> 7:30 pm at the Cornell  Lab of Ornithology. Cookies & conversation begins at 
> 7:15.
> 
>  Our speaker, Anastasia Dalziell, from the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, will 
> be presenting "Strange Tales of a Curious Bird: Recent Research on the Superb 
> Lyrebird".
> 
> The male Superb Lyrebird is world famous for its remarkable ability to mimic 
> natural and human-made sounds. Postdoc Anastasia Dalziell traveled to the 
> forests of southeastern Australia to study lyrebird mimicry and found that, 
> contrary to early suggestions, male lyrebirds are highly selective about when 
> and what sounds they mimic. She will also discuss the association between 
> vocal mimicry and dance, along with other findings that challenge our 
> understanding about the evolution of complex communication in animals.
> 
> Members are invited to dinner with Anastasia before the meeting at Aladdin's 
> in Collegtown at 5:30. Please RSVP by noon Monday to 
> cl...@juno.com so reservations can be made.
> 
> There will also be an opportunity at the meeting to sign up for tickets to 
> the documentary, The Messenger, which will be shown at Cornell Cinema on 
> Sunday, April 10th, at 4:30. Stay tuned for additional information.
> 
> Looking forward to seeing everyone at our Club 

[cayugabirds-l] Perverse chuckle of the day

[Chris R. Pelkie]

I get a regular ‘deal’ email from B and spotted this oddity this morning:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1197974-REG/snypex_9842_lrf1800_snypex_knight_lrf1800_laser.html?utm_medium=Email_campaign=Promotion_source=WeeklySpecials%20160314_content=Retail_term=Knight-8x42-LRF-1800

It’s a pair of 8x42 binocs from a company I’ve never heard of (Snypex!) for 
$800 ($200 off). Kinda pricey unless you count the fact that it has a built-in 
laser rangefinder.

So if you have a burning desire to know exactly how far away your now blinded 
bird is, or if you like to spot airplanes just before being arrested by the 
FAA, these babies are for you! Or are these designed for people who cheat at 
golf?

ChrisP
__

Chris Pelkie
Information/Data Manager; IT Support
Bioacoustics Research Program
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850


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