Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread david nicosia
 Let's get back to birds. This is a birding listserve. I have studied this at 
length and disagree. I do believe in man-made global warming but I don't 
believe it causes record cold. The climate has warmed 1C so we still can see 
record cold with our current climate. The frequency is less though, not more. 
Most meteorologists I know also don't agree that record cold is consistent with 
global warming. Some climatologists do.  If you want to discuss further, please 
direct the emails offline and not on the entire listserve.  I would be happy to 
discuss this issue (again offline) with the Dept Atmospheric Science folks at 
Cornell too if you want. I know most of them well. They are good people and 
also very intelligent. 
BestDave Nicosia
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 08:41:37 PM EDT, John Luther Cisne 
 wrote:  
 
 
Record cold over North America is indeed consistent with global warming.  It is 
a regional consequence of the global phenomenon. 
 
  
 
To explain it simply (as I was supposed to do in the elementary course I taught 
of years and years, “Evolution of the Earth and Life”), the principle of the 
thing is that Arctic Basin warms not only by importing warm air from the south, 
mainly over oceans, but also by exporting cold air to the south, mainly over 
continents.  Export of air from the north makes space for import of air from 
the south, so to speak.  For now, at least, the export of cold air from the 
Arctic is concentrated over North America.  
 
  
 
Certain of my colleagues in the Department Earth and Atmospheric Sciences will 
be able to give everyone a far better and more detailed explanation.
 
  
 
  
 
From:  on behalf of "Kevin J. 
McGowan" 
Reply-To: "Kevin J. McGowan" 
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:03 PM
To: david nicosia , Peter Saracino 
, Jody Enck 
Cc: "atvaw...@gmail.com" , CAYUGABIRDS-L 

Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality
 
  
 
“Record cold of this magnitude is not consistent with global warming. “
 
 
 
Why not? Global warming doesn’t mean warming happens all over the globe evenly. 
I’ve been watching our area in the northeast for the last decade, thinking 
mostly about Snowy Owl incursions, and I’ve noticed strange changes in the 
distribution of cold across the arctic, perhaps changes in the “polar vortex” 
that seem to isolate the NE as a cold spot while Alaska warms up. The last ten 
years have shown Ithaca regularly with winter temperatures lower than Nome, 
Alaska. That isn’t right. 
 
 
 
Global warming at the poles doesn’t mean every place warms up, it means that 
the consistencies of weather patterns we could count on could be disrupted. 
Colder Ithaca winters and heat waves in Alaska are totally consistent with a 
global warming scenario. Freak arctic blasts into the rockies while the north 
pole melts also points to something freakishly abnormal happening, totally 
consistent with global warming.
 
 
 
Kevin
 
 
 
 
 
From: bounce-124948138-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
On Behalf Of david nicosia
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 7:46 PM
To: Peter Saracino ; Jody Enck 
Cc: atvaw...@gmail.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality
 
 
 
The western U.S has a history of extreme temperature changes. This event ranks 
number 3 for the biggest temperature swing in history and it occurred during 
fall migration. Most of the other big swings in temperature
 
occurred in the winter. What is dramatic is how cold it got and the early snows 
that fell. Temperatures in parts of the Rockies fell to 9F with winds over 50 
mph. That is insanely cold for so early in the season. The Arctic high pressure 
that came across the Rockies has denser and heavier air which flows downslope 
into California, and Oregon warming by compression leading to high winds and 
VERY dry conditions. This fuels the tremendous fires.  So in a sense it is the 
brutal unseasonable cold air that is the real cause of the conditions that 
caused the fires. I assume the fires, combined with temperatures in the 80, 90s 
and 100s dropping to the teens 20s and 30s in many areas in the Rockies with 
early snows was too much for many birds to handle causing the high mortality 
rates. I have read that people are blaming climate change on this. I don't see 
it because it is the intense cold that really fueled the fires in CA and OR and 
probably had a negative effect on the birds. Record cold of this magnitude is 
not consistent with global warming. 
 
 
 
 
 
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 05:18:09 PM EDT, Jody Enck 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
Thank, Pete, for passing along the Guardian article.  Additional information 
has been forthcoming recently.  Hypotheses include movements related to smoky 
conditions in some states, coupled with those weird temperature swings recorded 
last week (90 to 100 F one day and below freezing, with snow, the next day).  
Seems less likely to be a nefarious even (e.g., poisoning) than something more 
likely caused by 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread John Luther Cisne
Record cold over North America is indeed consistent with global warming.  It is 
a regional consequence of the global phenomenon.

To explain it simply (as I was supposed to do in the elementary course I taught 
of years and years, “Evolution of the Earth and Life”), the principle of the 
thing is that Arctic Basin warms not only by importing warm air from the south, 
mainly over oceans, but also by exporting cold air to the south, mainly over 
continents.  Export of air from the north makes space for import of air from 
the south, so to speak.  For now, at least, the export of cold air from the 
Arctic is concentrated over North America.

Certain of my colleagues in the Department Earth and Atmospheric Sciences will 
be able to give everyone a far better and more detailed explanation.


From:  on behalf of "Kevin J. 
McGowan" 
Reply-To: "Kevin J. McGowan" 
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:03 PM
To: david nicosia , Peter Saracino 
, Jody Enck 
Cc: "atvaw...@gmail.com" , CAYUGABIRDS-L 

Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

“Record cold of this magnitude is not consistent with global warming. “

Why not? Global warming doesn’t mean warming happens all over the globe evenly. 
I’ve been watching our area in the northeast for the last decade, thinking 
mostly about Snowy Owl incursions, and I’ve noticed strange changes in the 
distribution of cold across the arctic, perhaps changes in the “polar vortex” 
that seem to isolate the NE as a cold spot while Alaska warms up. The last ten 
years have shown Ithaca regularly with winter temperatures lower than Nome, 
Alaska. That isn’t right.

Global warming at the poles doesn’t mean every place warms up, it means that 
the consistencies of weather patterns we could count on could be disrupted. 
Colder Ithaca winters and heat waves in Alaska are totally consistent with a 
global warming scenario. Freak arctic blasts into the rockies while the north 
pole melts also points to something freakishly abnormal happening, totally 
consistent with global warming.

Kevin


From: bounce-124948138-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of david nicosia
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 7:46 PM
To: Peter Saracino ; Jody Enck 
Cc: atvaw...@gmail.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

The western U.S has a history of extreme temperature changes. This event ranks 
number 3 for the biggest temperature swing in history and it occurred during 
fall migration. Most of the other big swings in temperature
occurred in the winter. What is dramatic is how cold it got and the early snows 
that fell. Temperatures in parts of the Rockies fell to 9F with winds over 50 
mph. That is insanely cold for so early in the season. The Arctic high pressure 
that came across the Rockies has denser and heavier air which flows downslope 
into California, and Oregon warming by compression leading to high winds and 
VERY dry conditions. This fuels the tremendous fires.  So in a sense it is the 
brutal unseasonable cold air that is the real cause of the conditions that 
caused the fires. I assume the fires, combined with temperatures in the 80, 90s 
and 100s dropping to the teens 20s and 30s in many areas in the Rockies with 
early snows was too much for many birds to handle causing the high mortality 
rates. I have read that people are blaming climate change on this. I don't see 
it because it is the intense cold that really fueled the fires in CA and OR and 
probably had a negative effect on the birds. Record cold of this magnitude is 
not consistent with global warming.


On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 05:18:09 PM EDT, Jody Enck 
mailto:jodye...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Thank, Pete, for passing along the Guardian article.  Additional information 
has been forthcoming recently.  Hypotheses include movements related to smoky 
conditions in some states, coupled with those weird temperature swings recorded 
last week (90 to 100 F one day and below freezing, with snow, the next day).  
Seems less likely to be a nefarious even (e.g., poisoning) than something more 
likely caused by challenging environmental factors.

I hope more information comes out soon.

Jody W. Enck, PhD
Conservation Social Scientist, and
Founder of the Sister Bird Club Network
607-379-5940


On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 5:03 PM Peter Saracino 
mailto:petersarac...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/16/birds-falling-out-of-the-sky-in-mass-die-off-in-south-western-us-aoe


On Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 6:47 PM Tom 
mailto:atvaw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I just learned of the mass mortality of migrating birds in New Mexico.  I read 
a CNN report.  Is there any new information on the cause?  They’re talking 
hundreds of thousands, even millions.

Tom V

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread david nicosia
 I have to jump in here. Sorry. When it is warmer in Nome Alaska than Ithaca NY 
the jet stream has a very high amplitude. Waves with high amplitude have a lot 
of energy. The jet stream derives its energy from the temperature differences 
from polar regions to the midlatitudes and subtropics. Stronger temperature 
differences lead to high amplitude patterns. So it is the intense cold at high 
latitudes that leads to stronger high amplitude patterns that dump cold air 
down here. We saw such patterns in the 1960s and 1970s too a globally cool 
period. Canada was actually quite cold last winter so we had an highly 
amplified jet stream that deposited record cold in the central U.S.  A warmer 
Canada doesn't lead to cold polar vortexes displaced south. The cold originates 
from the Arctic and Canada and becomes so expansive that it reaches our 
latitude. There also have been many instances where is can get warmer in Alaska 
and colder in the east because of a high amplitude jet stream. The brutal 
winter of 1976-77 saw record heat in Alaska in January. This happens more than 
you think. 
The cold that hit the Rockies this September originated over the land in 
northern Canada. It was clear and strong radiational cooling caused it. Global 
warming from greenhouse gases would have modified this air mass enough to 
lessen the extreme cold. It didn't happen. The cooling "power" of the land 
masses of the high latitudes remains intense. We don't get a lot of bitter cold 
air from the Arctic ocean. Its Alaska,and northern Canada where we get our cold 
from. 
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 08:03:46 PM EDT, Kevin J. McGowan 
 wrote:  
 
 
“Record cold of this magnitude is not consistent with global warming. “
 
  
 
Why not? Global warming doesn’t mean warming happens all over the globe evenly. 
I’ve been watching our area in the northeast for the last decade, thinking 
mostly about Snowy Owl incursions, and I’ve noticed strange changes in the 
distribution of cold across the arctic, perhaps changes in the “polar vortex” 
that seem to isolate the NE as a cold spot while Alaska warms up. The last ten 
years have shown Ithaca regularly with winter temperatures lower than Nome, 
Alaska. That isn’t right. 
 
  
 
Global warming at the poles doesn’t mean every place warms up, it means that 
the consistencies of weather patterns we could count on could be disrupted. 
Colder Ithaca winters and heat waves in Alaska are totally consistent with a 
global warming scenario. Freak arctic blasts into the rockies while the north 
pole melts also points to something freakishly abnormal happening, totally 
consistent with global warming.
 
  
 
Kevin
 
  
 
  
 
From: bounce-124948138-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
On Behalf Of david nicosia
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 7:46 PM
To: Peter Saracino ; Jody Enck 
Cc: atvaw...@gmail.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality
 
  
 
The western U.S has a history of extreme temperature changes. This event ranks 
number 3 for the biggest temperature swing in history and it occurred during 
fall migration. Most of the other big swings in temperature
 
occurred in the winter. What is dramatic is how cold it got and the early snows 
that fell. Temperatures in parts of the Rockies fell to 9F with winds over 50 
mph. That is insanely cold for so early in the season. The Arctic high pressure 
that came across the Rockies has denser and heavier air which flows downslope 
into California, and Oregon warming by compression leading to high winds and 
VERY dry conditions. This fuels the tremendous fires.  So in a sense it is the 
brutal unseasonable cold air that is the real cause of the conditions that 
caused the fires. I assume the fires, combined with temperatures in the 80, 90s 
and 100s dropping to the teens 20s and 30s in many areas in the Rockies with 
early snows was too much for many birds to handle causing the high mortality 
rates. I have read that people are blaming climate change on this. I don't see 
it because it is the intense cold that really fueled the fires in CA and OR and 
probably had a negative effect on the birds. Record cold of this magnitude is 
not consistent with global warming. 
 
  
 
  
 
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 05:18:09 PM EDT, Jody Enck 
 wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
Thank, Pete, for passing along the Guardian article.  Additional information 
has been forthcoming recently.  Hypotheses include movements related to smoky 
conditions in some states, coupled with those weird temperature swings recorded 
last week (90 to 100 F one day and below freezing, with snow, the next day).  
Seems less likely to be a nefarious even (e.g., poisoning) than something more 
likely caused by challenging environmental factors.
 
  
 
I hope more information comes out soon.
 
 

 
Jody W. Enck, PhD
 
Conservation Social Scientist, and
 
Founder of the Sister Bird Club Network
 
607-379-5940
 
  
 
  
 
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 5:03 PM Peter Saracino 

RE: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
“Record cold of this magnitude is not consistent with global warming. “

Why not? Global warming doesn’t mean warming happens all over the globe evenly. 
I’ve been watching our area in the northeast for the last decade, thinking 
mostly about Snowy Owl incursions, and I’ve noticed strange changes in the 
distribution of cold across the arctic, perhaps changes in the “polar vortex” 
that seem to isolate the NE as a cold spot while Alaska warms up. The last ten 
years have shown Ithaca regularly with winter temperatures lower than Nome, 
Alaska. That isn’t right.

Global warming at the poles doesn’t mean every place warms up, it means that 
the consistencies of weather patterns we could count on could be disrupted. 
Colder Ithaca winters and heat waves in Alaska are totally consistent with a 
global warming scenario. Freak arctic blasts into the rockies while the north 
pole melts also points to something freakishly abnormal happening, totally 
consistent with global warming.

Kevin


From: bounce-124948138-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of david nicosia
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 7:46 PM
To: Peter Saracino ; Jody Enck 
Cc: atvaw...@gmail.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

The western U.S has a history of extreme temperature changes. This event ranks 
number 3 for the biggest temperature swing in history and it occurred during 
fall migration. Most of the other big swings in temperature
occurred in the winter. What is dramatic is how cold it got and the early snows 
that fell. Temperatures in parts of the Rockies fell to 9F with winds over 50 
mph. That is insanely cold for so early in the season. The Arctic high pressure 
that came across the Rockies has denser and heavier air which flows downslope 
into California, and Oregon warming by compression leading to high winds and 
VERY dry conditions. This fuels the tremendous fires.  So in a sense it is the 
brutal unseasonable cold air that is the real cause of the conditions that 
caused the fires. I assume the fires, combined with temperatures in the 80, 90s 
and 100s dropping to the teens 20s and 30s in many areas in the Rockies with 
early snows was too much for many birds to handle causing the high mortality 
rates. I have read that people are blaming climate change on this. I don't see 
it because it is the intense cold that really fueled the fires in CA and OR and 
probably had a negative effect on the birds. Record cold of this magnitude is 
not consistent with global warming.


On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 05:18:09 PM EDT, Jody Enck 
mailto:jodye...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Thank, Pete, for passing along the Guardian article.  Additional information 
has been forthcoming recently.  Hypotheses include movements related to smoky 
conditions in some states, coupled with those weird temperature swings recorded 
last week (90 to 100 F one day and below freezing, with snow, the next day).  
Seems less likely to be a nefarious even (e.g., poisoning) than something more 
likely caused by challenging environmental factors.

I hope more information comes out soon.

Jody W. Enck, PhD
Conservation Social Scientist, and
Founder of the Sister Bird Club Network
607-379-5940


On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 5:03 PM Peter Saracino 
mailto:petersarac...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/16/birds-falling-out-of-the-sky-in-mass-die-off-in-south-western-us-aoe


On Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 6:47 PM Tom 
mailto:atvaw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I just learned of the mass mortality of migrating birds in New Mexico.  I read 
a CNN report.  Is there any new information on the cause?  They’re talking 
hundreds of thousands, even millions.

Tom V

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread david nicosia
 The western U.S has a history of extreme temperature changes. This event ranks 
number 3 for the biggest temperature swing in history and it occurred during 
fall migration. Most of the other big swings in temperatureoccurred in the 
winter. What is dramatic is how cold it got and the early snows that fell. 
Temperatures in parts of the Rockies fell to 9F with winds over 50 mph. That is 
insanely cold for so early in the season. The Arctic high pressure that came 
across the Rockies has denser and heavier air which flows downslope into 
California, and Oregon warming by compression leading to high winds and VERY 
dry conditions. This fuels the tremendous fires.  So in a sense it is the 
brutal unseasonable cold air that is the real cause of the conditions that 
caused the fires. I assume the fires, combined with temperatures in the 80, 90s 
and 100s dropping to the teens 20s and 30s in many areas in the Rockies with 
early snows was too much for many birds to handle causing the high mortality 
rates. I have read that people are blaming climate change on this. I don't see 
it because it is the intense cold that really fueled the fires in CA and OR and 
probably had a negative effect on the birds. Record cold of this magnitude is 
not consistent with global warming. 

On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 05:18:09 PM EDT, Jody Enck 
 wrote:  
 
 Thank, Pete, for passing along the Guardian article.  Additional information 
has been forthcoming recently.  Hypotheses include movements related to smoky 
conditions in some states, coupled with those weird temperature swings recorded 
last week (90 to 100 F one day and below freezing, with snow, the next day).  
Seems less likely to be a nefarious even (e.g., poisoning) than something more 
likely caused by challenging environmental factors.
I hope more information comes out soon. 
Jody W. Enck, PhDConservation Social Scientist, andFounder of the Sister Bird 
Club Network607-379-5940

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 5:03 PM Peter Saracino  wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/16/birds-falling-out-of-the-sky-in-mass-die-off-in-south-western-us-aoe


On Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 6:47 PM Tom  wrote:

I just learned of the mass mortality of migrating birds in New Mexico.  I read 
a CNN report.  Is there any new information on the cause?  They’re talking 
hundreds of thousands, even millions.

Tom V

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread Jody Enck
Thank, Pete, for passing along the Guardian article.  Additional
information has been forthcoming recently.  Hypotheses include movements
related to smoky conditions in some states, coupled with those weird
temperature swings recorded last week (90 to 100 F one day and below
freezing, with snow, the next day).  Seems less likely to be a nefarious
even (e.g., poisoning) than something more likely caused by challenging
environmental factors.

I hope more information comes out soon.

Jody W. Enck, PhD
Conservation Social Scientist, and
Founder of the Sister Bird Club Network
607-379-5940


On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 5:03 PM Peter Saracino 
wrote:

>
> https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/16/birds-falling-out-of-the-sky-in-mass-die-off-in-south-western-us-aoe
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 6:47 PM Tom  wrote:
>
>> I just learned of the mass mortality of migrating birds in New Mexico.  I
>> read a CNN report.  Is there any new information on the cause?  They’re
>> talking hundreds of thousands, even millions.
>>
>> Tom V
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

2020-09-16 Thread Peter Saracino
The Refuge is currently short-staffed. Work on flooding the Visitors Center
pool was scheduled to begin last week but problems were encountered with
the pump. They are working hard to resolve the problem. I wouldn't be
surprised but in the next few days there will be water in that area. Not
sure if water levels at Carncross can be manipulated.
Hope this helps.
Pete Saracino



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> Both the visitor center field and Carncross Rd fields are bone dry. I was
> there this morning!
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Mexico Mass Motality

2020-09-16 Thread Peter Saracino
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/sep/16/birds-falling-out-of-the-sky-in-mass-die-off-in-south-western-us-aoe


On Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 6:47 PM Tom  wrote:

> I just learned of the mass mortality of migrating birds in New Mexico.  I
> read a CNN report.  Is there any new information on the cause?  They’re
> talking hundreds of thousands, even millions.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

2020-09-16 Thread Ziemba, Linda
We started pumping water into the Visitor Center Wetland yesterday.

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Linda Chorba Ziemba
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Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge
3395 US Route 20 East
Seneca Falls, NY 13148
315-406-0052
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Does anyone know if they’ve flooded the visitor center area or Carncross road 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

2020-09-16 Thread Johnson, Alyssa
Both the visitor center field and Carncross Rd fields are bone dry. I was there 
this morning!

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Bb whistling ducks mnwr - photo link

2020-09-16 Thread Randolph Ross
Jay McGowan has helpfully corrected me - I didn't realize this was an older
report!

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:53 AM Randolph Ross 
wrote:

> Just passing on today's sighting of BBWD in Dryden; you may have seen it
> on the rare bird alert, here is the FB photo from Jacob Jensen:
> https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=3318459074857438=pcb.2816441018457289
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:53 AM Marie P. Read  wrote:
>
>> I've posted a photo of today's Black-bellied Whistling Ducks on the
>> Cayuga Bird Club's Facebook page:
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10224659483021080=gm.3286811648023294
>>
>> Marie
>>
>>
>>
>> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
>> 452 Ringwood Road
>> Freeville NY  13068 USA
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>> *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Bb whistling ducks mnwr
>>
>> Four black-bellied whistling ducks in main pool about an hour ago. Flew
>> south and may have landed but I am on my second circuit and unable to
>> relocate them. They were originally halfway down the area of open water on
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Bb whistling ducks mnwr - photo link

2020-09-16 Thread Randolph Ross
Just passing on today's sighting of BBWD in Dryden; you may have seen it on
the rare bird alert, here is the FB photo from Jacob Jensen:
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=3318459074857438=pcb.2816441018457289


On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 11:53 AM Marie P. Read  wrote:

> I've posted a photo of today's Black-bellied Whistling Ducks on the Cayuga
> Bird Club's Facebook page:
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10224659483021080=gm.3286811648023294
>
> Marie
>
>
>
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
> Freeville NY  13068 USA
>
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> Website: http://www.marieread.com
>
> NEW! The Magic of Loons 2021 Wall Calendar:
> https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Store/Loons+Calendar+2021-6267193593
>
> AUTHOR of:
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> Birds and Their Behavior
>
> https://rockynook.com/shop/photography/mastering-bird-photography/?REF=101/
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> bounce-124927426-5851...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Marie P. Read <
> m...@cornell.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:27 AM
> *To:* CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Bb whistling ducks mnwr
>
> Four black-bellied whistling ducks in main pool about an hour ago. Flew
> south and may have landed but I am on my second circuit and unable to
> relocate them. They were originally halfway down the area of open water on
> wildlife drive.
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[cayugabirds-l] Montezuma

2020-09-16 Thread Carol Keeler
Does anyone know if they’ve flooded the visitor center area or Carncross road 
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