Re: [cayugabirds-l] All male Ospreys now?

[Suan Hsi Yong]

This morning at Salt Point one bird was atop the platform at the point,
making frequent forays to collect sticks - fun to watch it grab at branches
while flying past a tree but fail to snap it off. After a break, it flew in
the direction of the railway bridge over Salmon Creek, and when I walked
down in that direction, one osprey (A) was sitting atop a utility pole with
a sizeable fish, while another osprey (B) was on the platform close to the
railway bridge. I _think_ B was the first bird I'd been observing on the
point platform, but am not sure. Anyhow, B flew to land on that same
utility pole alongside A, seemingly expecting A to share some of the fish,
with no sign of aggression between the two birds as far as I could tell.
But A did not want to share and unceremoniously flew off with the fish,
while B sat there for a while before flying back to the platform at the
point, making a failed grab at a tree branch along the way.

I have photos of both birds, but don't have enough experience with the
necklaces to discern male vs. female.

Suan


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] All male Ospreys now?

[Elaina M. McCartney]

This morning an Osprey on the Union field light pole swooped down to the grass, 
appeared to grab something tiny, alight back on the pole, then swoop down again 
and appear to grab something invisible to me, and go back up onto the pole. The 
pole was swaying a bit in the wind.

On Mar 29, 2023, at 19:33, Dave Nutter  wrote:

 It’s possible that the 2 Ospreys atop the Union Fields nest were males 
glowering at each other or enjoying social time until the females arrive. One 
Osprey was on that nest this afternoon. I couldn’t check all the possible 
perches among other light arrays for a second bird.

Today at Allan Treman I saw a single Osprey for awhile atop the perch on the 
platform nearest the Hangar Theatre. I agree that’s likely a male, and I don’t 
know if he is just checking out sites or is trying to claim that site or 
actually used it last year and is very possessive. But he didn’t stay there a 
long time.

Then there’s the nest which has been used for many years in the field NW of the 
marina and closer to the lake. For awhile today there were 2 Ospreys on it side 
by side close together. Were they chummy, or was a second one trying to evict 
the first? At one point I saw fluttering which suggested copulation, but I 
wasn’t quick enough with the binoculars to be sure. Meanwhile a 3rd Osprey was 
perched in a tree nearby. And a few minutes later all 3 had flown off. It’s 
possible that none of these nests are actually claimed yet. But I’m letting 
Candace know what I - who am not an Osprey expert - observe. And I urge 
everyone else to do the same.

Additional observations at Allan Treman today include:
A swooping display flight high over the south end of Allan Treman State Marine 
Park, although the Osprey was not carrying a fish or stick as they often do in 
displays. My guess is it’s the same bird who was on the Hangar nest.

An Osprey eating a fish atop a tree in Jetty Woods near the north end along 
Cayuga Inlet while another Osprey perched atop another tree farther south but 
not close enough to the platform at the NW corner of Newman Golf Course to say 
to me that it was interested in that site.

- - Dave Nutter

On Mar 29, 2023, at 4:40 PM, Gloria Sage 
mailto:gws...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I think that male Ospreys come north first and prepare a nest. The females come 
later.

Gloria Sage
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snow Goose

[Elaina M. McCartney]

Thanks, noted.

On Mar 29, 2023, at 18:39, Dave Nutter  wrote:

 I saw the Snow Goose a little before 2pm and a little after 6pm in the same 
area. It has been grazing and looks alert and healthy. I agree it is unusual to 
have a wild goose in such a busily populated place, but the rowing crews, the 
drivers, and most of the pedestrians ignore it, so the bird is tolerant. Many 
Snow Geese who don’t finish migration are not sick but have been wounded by 
hunters. Sometimes they gather into small flocks who swim around Cayuga Lake. 
I’d rather let it be. But if it is sick, then handling it would not be a smart 
idea for the people.

- - Dave Nutter

On Mar 29, 2023, at 6:19 PM, marsha kardon 
mailto:mfkar...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm wondering whether the bird should be brought to a wildlife rehabilitator or 
  Perhaps it has avian influenza?  Or an injury that isn't visible when 
it's standing or walking?  Marsha Kardon

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:51 PM Lanie Wilmarth 
mailto:lwilmarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I too, saw this bird roughly an hour ago in the exact same location, this time 
just sitting.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:00 PM marsha kardon 
mailto:mfkar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I just got back from Cass Park and saw the lone snow goose about 10 minutes ago 
(and 1 3/4 hours ago in a similar location) in the grass on the inlet side not 
far past the Childrens' Garden.  I agree that it looks healthy and is walking  
in the grass nibbling, but it seems odd to see it there alone.  Marsha Kardon

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:16 AM Elaina M. McCartney 
mailto:elaina.mccart...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
There was a lone Snow Goose strolling along the daffodil part of the Waterfront 
Trail just south of Cass Park Rink this morning. It seemed healthy although I 
didn't see it fly. I circled back around after a tour of three occupied Osprey 
nests and it was gone.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snow Goose

[Elaina M. McCartney]

I can walk over in the morning and see if it's still there.

Elaina

On Mar 29, 2023, at 18:20, marsha kardon  wrote:


I'm wondering whether the bird should be brought to a wildlife rehabilitator or 
  Perhaps it has avian influenza?  Or an injury that isn't visible when 
it's standing or walking?  Marsha Kardon

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:51 PM Lanie Wilmarth 
mailto:lwilmarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I too, saw this bird roughly an hour ago in the exact same location, this time 
just sitting.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:00 PM marsha kardon 
mailto:mfkar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I just got back from Cass Park and saw the lone snow goose about 10 minutes ago 
(and 1 3/4 hours ago in a similar location) in the grass on the inlet side not 
far past the Childrens' Garden.  I agree that it looks healthy and is walking  
in the grass nibbling, but it seems odd to see it there alone.  Marsha Kardon

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:16 AM Elaina M. McCartney 
mailto:elaina.mccart...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
There was a lone Snow Goose strolling along the daffodil part of the Waterfront 
Trail just south of Cass Park Rink this morning. It seemed healthy although I 
didn't see it fly. I circled back around after a tour of three occupied Osprey 
nests and it was gone.

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[cayugabirds-l] All male Ospreys now?

[Dave Nutter]

It’s possible that the 2 Ospreys atop the Union Fields nest were males 
glowering at each other or enjoying social time until the females arrive. One 
Osprey was on that nest this afternoon. I couldn’t check all the possible 
perches among other light arrays for a second bird.

Today at Allan Treman I saw a single Osprey for awhile atop the perch on the 
platform nearest the Hangar Theatre. I agree that’s likely a male, and I don’t 
know if he is just checking out sites or is trying to claim that site or 
actually used it last year and is very possessive. But he didn’t stay there a 
long time. 

Then there’s the nest which has been used for many years in the field NW of the 
marina and closer to the lake. For awhile today there were 2 Ospreys on it side 
by side close together. Were they chummy, or was a second one trying to evict 
the first? At one point I saw fluttering which suggested copulation, but I 
wasn’t quick enough with the binoculars to be sure. Meanwhile a 3rd Osprey was 
perched in a tree nearby. And a few minutes later all 3 had flown off. It’s 
possible that none of these nests are actually claimed yet. But I’m letting 
Candace know what I - who am not an Osprey expert - observe. And I urge 
everyone else to do the same.

Additional observations at Allan Treman today include:
A swooping display flight high over the south end of Allan Treman State Marine 
Park, although the Osprey was not carrying a fish or stick as they often do in 
displays. My guess is it’s the same bird who was on the Hangar nest. 

An Osprey eating a fish atop a tree in Jetty Woods near the north end along 
Cayuga Inlet while another Osprey perched atop another tree farther south but 
not close enough to the platform at the NW corner of Newman Golf Course to say 
to me that it was interested in that site.

- - Dave Nutter
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 4:40 PM, Gloria Sage  wrote:
>> 
>> I think that male Ospreys come north first and prepare a nest. The females 
>> come later.
>> 
>> Gloria Sage

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snow Goose

[Dave Nutter]

I saw the Snow Goose a little before 2pm and a little after 6pm in the same 
area. It has been grazing and looks alert and healthy. I agree it is unusual to 
have a wild goose in such a busily populated place, but the rowing crews, the 
drivers, and most of the pedestrians ignore it, so the bird is tolerant. Many 
Snow Geese who don’t finish migration are not sick but have been wounded by 
hunters. Sometimes they gather into small flocks who swim around Cayuga Lake. 
I’d rather let it be. But if it is sick, then handling it would not be a smart 
idea for the people. 

- - Dave Nutter

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 6:19 PM, marsha kardon  wrote:
> 
> I'm wondering whether the bird should be brought to a wildlife rehabilitator 
> or   Perhaps it has avian influenza?  Or an injury that isn't visible 
> when it's standing or walking?  Marsha Kardon
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:51 PM Lanie Wilmarth  
>> wrote:
>> I too, saw this bird roughly an hour ago in the exact same location, this 
>> time just sitting.
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:00 PM marsha kardon  wrote:
>>> I just got back from Cass Park and saw the lone snow goose about 10 minutes 
>>> ago (and 1 3/4 hours ago in a similar location) in the grass on the inlet 
>>> side not far past the Childrens' Garden.  I agree that it looks healthy and 
>>> is walking  in the grass nibbling, but it seems odd to see it there alone.  
>>> Marsha Kardon
>>> 
 On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:16 AM Elaina M. McCartney 
  wrote:
 There was a lone Snow Goose strolling along the daffodil part of the 
 Waterfront Trail just south of Cass Park Rink this morning. It seemed 
 healthy although I didn't see it fly. I circled back around after a tour 
 of three occupied Osprey nests and it was gone.
 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snow Goose

[marsha kardon]

I'm wondering whether the bird should be brought to a wildlife
rehabilitator or   Perhaps it has avian influenza?  Or an injury that
isn't visible when it's standing or walking?  Marsha Kardon

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:51 PM Lanie Wilmarth 
wrote:

> I too, saw this bird roughly an hour ago in the exact same location, this
> time just sitting.
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:00 PM marsha kardon  wrote:
>
>> I just got back from Cass Park and saw the lone snow goose about 10
>> minutes ago (and 1 3/4 hours ago in a similar location) in the grass on the
>> inlet side not far past the Childrens' Garden.  I agree that it looks
>> healthy and is walking  in the grass nibbling, but it seems odd to see it
>> there alone.  Marsha Kardon
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:16 AM Elaina M. McCartney <
>> elaina.mccart...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> There was a lone Snow Goose strolling along the daffodil part of the
>>> Waterfront Trail just south of Cass Park Rink this morning. It seemed
>>> healthy although I didn't see it fly. I circled back around after a tour of
>>> three occupied Osprey nests and it was gone.
>>>
>>> Elaina
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[cayugabirds-l] Winter Wren @ 6 mile creek

[Suan Yong]

Just heard a singing winter wren at potter falls. I guess the timing is about 
right.

Suan
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snow Goose

[Lanie Wilmarth]

I too, saw this bird roughly an hour ago in the exact same location, this
time just sitting.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:00 PM marsha kardon  wrote:

> I just got back from Cass Park and saw the lone snow goose about 10
> minutes ago (and 1 3/4 hours ago in a similar location) in the grass on the
> inlet side not far past the Childrens' Garden.  I agree that it looks
> healthy and is walking  in the grass nibbling, but it seems odd to see it
> there alone.  Marsha Kardon
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:16 AM Elaina M. McCartney <
> elaina.mccart...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>> There was a lone Snow Goose strolling along the daffodil part of the
>> Waterfront Trail just south of Cass Park Rink this morning. It seemed
>> healthy although I didn't see it fly. I circled back around after a tour of
>> three occupied Osprey nests and it was gone.
>>
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] cayugabirds-l digest: March 29, 2023

[Gloria Sage]

Re Dave Nutter's Post re Osprey

I think that male Ospreys come north first and prepare a nest. The 
females come later.


Gloria Sage

On 3/29/23 12:01 AM, Upstate NY Birding digest wrote:

CAYUGABIRDS-L Digest for Wednesday, March 29, 2023.

1. FOY Osprey
2. RE: FOY Osprey
3. RE: FOY Osprey
4. Re: FOY Osprey
5. Ospreys Everywhere All at Once!
6. house finches
7. Re: FOY Osprey

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Subject: FOY Osprey
From: Dave Nutter 
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 07:34:41 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

This morning at 7:24am from our kitchen window I saw my first-of-year Osprey 
flying south over the Flood Control Channel past Inlet Island and the NYS-89 
bridge, clearly hunting for fish despite the practicing rowing crews.

Despite being out at Allan Treman State Marine Park yesterday morning for 
nearly 3 hours, and finding 47 species, I managed to miss the Osprey which Suan 
observed from Stewart Park. People walking at Treman have been asking for weeks 
whether the Ospreys are back and when I expect them. They are our Charismatic 
Megafauna, although Bald Eagles are also popular. I think March 26 was my 
previous early record, but I have been expecting a sighting any day for the 
past several.

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Subject: RE: FOY Osprey
From: Robyn Bailey 
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:56:36 +
X-Message-Number: 2

Someone posted on the Friends of Salt Point Facebook page that a pair was 
visiting the platform on March 27, verified with photos.

Robyn

From: bounce-127256533-15067...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Dave Nutter
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 7:35 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] FOY Osprey

This morning at 7:24am from our kitchen window I saw my first-of-year Osprey 
flying south over the Flood Control Channel past Inlet Island and the NYS-89 
bridge, clearly hunting for fish despite the practicing rowing crews.

Despite being out at Allan Treman State Marine Park yesterday morning for 
nearly 3 hours, and finding 47 species, I managed to miss the Osprey which Suan 
observed from Stewart Park. People walking at Treman have been asking for weeks 
whether the Ospreys are back and when I expect them. They are our Charismatic 
Megafauna, although Bald Eagles are also popular. I think March 26 was my 
previous early record, but I have been expecting a sighting any day for the 
past several.

- - Dave Nutter
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Subject: RE: FOY Osprey
From: "Colleen Richards" 
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 20:31:40 GMT
X-Message-Number: 3

There was definitely one, and possibly a second osprey on the field lights 
platform over the baseball diamond at the base of the Black Diamond trail this 
morning.Also, sadly, we saw a dead bluebird near the Children's Garden; 2 
others were flying and singing in the nearby trees. Saw one lone male 
bufflehead swimming with many Canada Geese in the inlet along Floral Park. 
Colleen Richards

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From: Robyn Bailey 
To: Dave Nutter , CAYUGABIRDS-L 

Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] FOY Osprey
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:56:36 +


Someone posted on the Friends of Salt Point Facebook page that a pair was 
visiting the platform on March 27, verified with photos.
  
Robyn
  
From: bounce-127256533-15067...@list.cornell.edu  On Behalf Of Dave Nutter

  Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 7:35 AM
  To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
  Subject: [cayugabirds-l] FOY Osprey
  
This morning at 7:24am from our kitchen window I saw my first-of-year Osprey flying south over the Flood Control Channel past Inlet Island and the NYS-89 bridge, clearly hunting for fish despite the practicing rowing crews.
  
Despite being out at Allan Treman State Marine Park yesterday morning for nearly 3 hours, and finding 47 species, I managed to miss the Osprey which Suan observed from Stewart Park. People walking at Treman have been asking for weeks whether the Ospreys are back and when I expect them. They are our Charismatic Megafauna, although Bald Eagles are also popular. I think March 26 was my previous early record, but I have been expecting a sighting any day for the past several.
  
- - Dave Nutter

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Snow Goose

[marsha kardon]

I just got back from Cass Park and saw the lone snow goose about 10 minutes
ago (and 1 3/4 hours ago in a similar location) in the grass on the inlet
side not far past the Childrens' Garden.  I agree that it looks healthy and
is walking  in the grass nibbling, but it seems odd to see it there alone.
Marsha Kardon

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:16 AM Elaina M. McCartney <
elaina.mccart...@cornell.edu> wrote:

> There was a lone Snow Goose strolling along the daffodil part of the
> Waterfront Trail just south of Cass Park Rink this morning. It seemed
> healthy although I didn't see it fly. I circled back around after a tour of
> three occupied Osprey nests and it was gone.
>
> Elaina
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[cayugabirds-l] Snow Goose

[Elaina M. McCartney]

There was a lone Snow Goose strolling along the daffodil part of the Waterfront 
Trail just south of Cass Park Rink this morning. It seemed healthy although I 
didn't see it fly. I circled back around after a tour of three occupied Osprey 
nests and it was gone.

Elaina
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Salt Point

[KitKat PonyBird]

Yes, they are returning!  Yesterday, I saw one on the platform perch out
behind All Saints church.  Spring always wins!

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 10:23 AM Donna Lee Scott  wrote:

> Osprey photographed by Robert Rieger atop an electric pole at Salt Point
> this morning.
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> Kendal at Ithaca
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[cayugabirds-l] Salt Point

[Donna Lee Scott]

Osprey photographed by Robert Rieger atop an electric pole at Salt Point this 
morning.

Donna Scott
Kendal at Ithaca
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] FOY Osprey

[Robyn Bailey]

There was a single Osprey on the Myer’s Hill nest in Lansing this morning when 
I drove by. It wasn’t there yesterday for my commute, but it could have arrived 
later in the day and I would have missed it. But it’s there now, and I was glad 
to see it.

Robyn Bailey

From: Dave Nutter 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:58 PM
To: Colleen Richards 
Cc: Robyn Bailey ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 

Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] FOY Osprey

That nest on that platform over those lights over Union Fields in Cass Park had 
2 Ospreys sitting on it this afternoon as I walked by on the Black Diamond 
Trail about 2:30pm. The birds were across from each other, not snuggling nor 
obviously ecstatic, but clearly they knew & accepted each other, so it looks 
like a mated pair has returned.

Three hours later, when I walked south along the Cayuga Waterfront Trail, the 
nest was not occupied, but there was an Osprey perched in each of 2 separate 
arrays of lights over the fields. Maybe they aren’t quite used to being 
together yet. Or maybe they aren’t quite used to the little kids and their 
parents setting up to practice soccer at what looked to me like a respectful 
distance from the nest. I think the Ospreys will get used to the situation and 
get to business quickly. At least the Fish Crows were no longer playing on the 
nest.

None of the nests around Allan Treman State Marine Park had any Ospreys nearby: 
not the platform in the middle of the field northwest of the marina near the 
lakeshore, not the platform closer to Taughannock Boulevard and the Hangar 
Theatre, not the platform at the northwest corner of Newman Golf Course across 
Cayuga Inlet from the Treman boat ramp. However, I did briefly see an Osprey 
over the marina as I arrived and much later I heard a couple of chirps.

Of course these observations are from the guy who yesterday walked past the 
west side of the Children’s Garden about the same time Duane saw an Osprey 
flying across the road and water on the Garden’s  east side, and later failed 
to notice an Osprey off of Stewart Park when Suan was there. Birds are mobile 
and sneaky.
- - Dave Nutter

On Mar 28, 2023, at 4:31 PM, Colleen Richards 
mailto:cl...@juno.com>> wrote:
There was definitely one, and possibly a second osprey on the field lights 
platform over the baseball diamond at the base of the Black Diamond trail this 
morning.


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