Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

[Rachel Lodder]

These are some great ideas and comments, Dave, Geo, and Suan.

I'm having a hard time keeping track of the different chains of discussion on 
this topic, so if this is repeated for some of you, I apologize. It's 
interesting to see, too, that we have had some overlapping ideas. One thing 
that we are trying as farmers is leaving some of our fields fallow in 
grass/clover, even for several years. We fit this into our organic crop 
rotations, and this helps gives the soil a rest. We can do this as we are 
organic, and have the "luxury" of renting enough acres to farm, and some land 
owners are willing to rent their land to us for less income to have it organic.

Onother thing we do already (like Geo suggests), but we have never tested to 
know how it works: make hay-production fields smaller than Bobolinks prefer to 
discourage them from setting up breeding territories. This could work well 
(possibly) on slopes where we also farm using strips of smaller “fields” (of 
alternating types of crops across the slope in narrower strips), which is done 
in order to help prevent erosion and soil loss, as there are always areas of 
soil that are covered by crop and not bare soil, which is more susceptible to 
erosion. We just don't know how to tell if it "makes" the birds nest elsewhere?

Both of these strip and cover-cropping methods are encouraged by NRCS and 
farmers can get paid cash per acre to use them! That is one carrot!

These methods could only be offered, and made available to people who are 
interested. Farmers come in all shapes and sizes, with all kinds of priorites 
and concerns, and we know farmers who are not interested in the NRSC payments, 
event though it's "free" money for them.

Thor and I would be willing to try locating and marking nests in fields as 
well, if you think it's worth it. We have a 23-acre fallow grass/clover field 
where I saw a Bobolink carrying food last Thursday. We could trial how the nest 
finding and flagging system could work, as we're not planning on mowing that 
field until late, and probably not at all this year for a crop of hay. I don't 
have time to organize and manage this, but am happy to help as I can, so Suan - 
if you are willing to organize it, we can see what we can do. And Anne - you 
bring up perfect issues concerning this method!

cheers,
Rachel




From: bounce-125722353-81221...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Geo Kloppel 

Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 10:40 PM
To: CayugaBirds-L b 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

I’ve been musing along a different line, wondering if a preemptive approach is 
possible.

It takes time to mow the big fields that grassland nesters favor, and the hay 
farmer can’t mow all of them simultaneously. The work of haying season has to 
begin somewhere, and start early enough that the farmer can get through it all. 
So each year some field will be selected to go first, and another second, and 
the rest must wait their turns.

Clearly some fields that are later in the queue can produce a crop of 
fledglings before it’s their turn to be mowed; otherwise we wouldn’t be having 
this conversation. So, suppose for the moment that the decision about which 
fields to mow early could be made before nesting had even begun. If there was 
then some way to discourage the birds from selecting those particular fields to 
nest in, the effect would be to direct them to the fields slated for later 
mowing...

-Geo
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Trumansburg notes

[Rachel Lodder]

That's great! Amazing photos!
I JUST today saw an adult Red-headed Woodpecker at a feeder on Congress St., 
near the corner of Senenca St (not Seneca Road). I didn't submit it to eBird, 
but now I will. Possibly moved over a block or two?

From: bounce-125718767-81221...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Jared Dawson 

Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 4:40 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Trumansburg notes

I took some pictures of 3 nestling Cooper Hawks today, around 3 weeks old. The 
female was busy eating a freshly-killed Gray Squirrel nearby and then brought 
the leftovers back to the nest.
A couple of them can be seen at  https://ebird.org/checklist/S90337636
The pair of Merlins I continue to see regularly, centered on the area behind 
the new tasting room at the corner of Washington and Old Main Sts. I have not 
been able to find a nest yet.
There have been no new reports of the Red-headed Woodpecker that had been seen 
at least twice along Washington St in May.
There is a pair of Osprey that are apparently nest building on a utility pole 
at the corner of Kingtown and Seneca Rd, but they seem also to be attending to 
other nest(s).
This is my third spring here, and there is more vireo song this year, at least 
in the upper village where I hang out, Red-eyed and Warbling.
Jared Dawson
Trumansburg
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

[Rachel Lodder]

Hi everyone,

Very, very well put Ken. It is indeed a significantly tricky balance. My 
partner and I are organic grain (and hay) farmers in the Ithaca area (~1400 
acres, involving numerous large fields), who make our living 100% from farming. 
We would also consider ourselves bird enthusiasts, and regular birdwatchers, 
who do our best to be sensitive to environmental and biodiversity issues (part 
of the reason that we farm organically). Not only that, I own and ride horses. 
The Venn diagram in this case is profound!

But seriously, my point is to stress how well you expressed the various sides 
of the issue, and directed the passion that people are expressing toward having 
a positive impact. And that Thor and I are real-life, local farmers trying to 
do our best in this balancing act and are open to talking with anyone about 
these issues. We have a lot of experience with conservation programs in the 
Farm Bill (NRCS and FSA), and would be happy to talk with other farmers (or 
anyone) about them.

You offered some great ways for individuals to have an input. One point that I 
would like to add to this discussion is the actual price of food. People want 
food that is inexpensive - and we should all be able to afford good, healthy 
food!! - but food that is produced in ways that incorporate conservation 
methods is probably going to cost more. How you shop and where you spend is one 
way that you can have an impact.

So much to say about this. Feel free to get in touch!
Appreciative of all the concern,
Rachel and Thor



From: bounce-125714663-81221...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Kenneth V. Rosenberg 

Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 11:32 PM
To: Geo Kloppel ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 

Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.


Hi everyone,



Having fueled some of the passion about hay-cutting and grassland bird 
conservation, I wanted to clarify a few points. Thanks to the many who provided 
resources and links to additional information. I am not an expert on farming or 
legal issues, but I can provide a bit more perspective on the grassland bird 
issues. What is happening today has happened for decades and is standard 
agricultural practice over most of the eastern U.S. The challenges are complex, 
both for the farmers and those interested in conservation.



Most importantly, it is not fair or correct to blame the local farmers, or even 
those at Cornell trying to manage the hayfields along Freese and Hanshaw Roads 
– these are indeed hayfields, grown for the horses at the Equine Research Lab, 
and the growers are under the same constraints regarding timing and nutritional 
value of the hay (the horses won’t eat it if it’s mowed too late). Individual 
farmers trying to eek out a living and keep their farms in production cannot be 
expected to sacrifice economically for the sake of birds or other wildlife – a 
common resource for us all. This is the fundamental problem.



The solutions, therefore, need to come at the societal and policy levels. If 
more of society puts greater value on birds and other nature, then this can 
become part of the economic structure that supports both agriculture and 
biodiversity conservation. Much easier said than done!  There is a complicated 
array of Farm Bill and other incentive programs that encourage farmers to 
create or set aside wildlife habitat, but these programs are obscure to most 
farmers – including the program managers at Cornell we met with last year. Here 
is a link to a guide that was just released about the latest Farm Bill 
programs:  
https://nabci-us.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/2018-2023-Farm-Bill-Guide-FINAL-LOW-RES-052621.pdf



As Geo and others point out, the bird part is pretty well known and several 
good resources exist – the timing of breeding, safe dates for mowing, field 
size requirements for each species, preferred grass types, etc.  The economic 
side is much more difficult, with pressures to produce on every acre and less 
and less room for nature in the agricultural matrix. And as Geo stated, without 
viable farming there would be no “grassland” or grassland birds in the 
Northeast. (the lost potential for managing state-owned lands for these 
disappearing species has also been noted).



As for our local situation with the Cornell University fields, I was not quite 
correct to say earlier that the managers of these particular fields were not 
interested in conservation options – but they did not have the option to make 
those decisions and could not afford to make short-term changes in their 
management. This is where our local bird community can help – both in terms of 
providing specific information on the birds and guidelines for mowing, etc., 
but more importantly, to let the university and town leaders know that we value 
the birds and the habitats on these lands. As a land-grant university, and with 
the lead by-line on the Science article documenting the loss of 3 billion 
birds, it is 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black billed cuckoo

[Rachel Lodder]

I had one right near my house this week, too!
Exciting!

From: bounce-125666534-81221...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Nancy Cusumano 

Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 5:50 PM
To: Suan Yong 
Cc: Cayuga Birding List 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Black billed cuckoo

I also had a yard Black billed cuckoo two days ago. It sang twice. We are now 
hearing it up and down Houghton Rd, at the intersection with Duboise. Haven't 
had one locally in about 10 years. So nice to have them back. I hope he finds a 
mate!

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:38 AM Suan Yong 
mailto:suan.y...@gmail.com>> wrote:
New yard bird for me (actually a house bird): a black billed cuckoo was singing 
a long series of po-po-po-po outside my house in Commonland. When I got outside 
with my binoculars and camera, it didn't sing again and was not found.

Suan
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[cayugabirds-l] Hermit Thrush

[Rachel Lodder]

I saw a Hermit Thrush yesterday afternoon on Connecticut Hill, deep in the 
woods to the east of Lloyd Starks Road.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Gyrfalcon with Mallard

[Rachel Lodder]

Great photos! Thanks for sharing!


From: bounce-125412574-81221...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Peter Saracino 

Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:03 PM
To: Dave K 
Cc: Cayuga birds 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Gyrfalcon with Mallard

Cool Dave.
Where is the Iron Works?
Pete Sar

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, 9:18 PM Dave K 
mailto:fishwatch...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
~5PM I came across the Gyrfalcon that had a Mallard on a field South of Seneca 
Iron Works. The Mallard was still moving when I arrived but I didn't see the 
catch. The Gyrfalcon had to fend off two hawks but managed to keep its prey.
Between hawks and despite traffic it fed steadily and eventually left the 
Mallard and flew to a tree perch on the West edge of the field.
Some (bloody) pics at
https://www.flickr.com/photos/105424358@N06/50974933716/in/datetaken/
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Color change without molt

[Rachel Lodder]

Very interesting, Pete.
Bob, Diane, Ken and I watched Snow Buntings "digging" and rubbing in the snow 
today, too. One was practically flinging snow around cartoon style. In Lansing.


From: bounce-125404995-81221...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Peter Saracino 

Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 4:43 PM
To: Cayuga birds 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Color change without molt

I recently read a curious account in "Naturally Curious Day by Day" (Mary 
Holland) concerning the plumage of snow buntings. According to Ms. Holland, the 
totally white head and belly and jet-black head of a breeding plumage male is 
not the product of a Spring molt. Evidently snow buntings molt their feathers 
once/year in late summer. The breeding change in the Male's plumage is due to 
the fact that beneath the colored feather tips, the back feathers are pure 
black and the body feathers are all white. The male wears off all of the 
feather tips by actively rubbing them on snow, which reveals his 
black-and-white breeding plumage. So says the book.
Today I was watching a huge flock of snow buntings on Fort Hill Rd on the 
boundary between the Phelps/Seneca Townline, north of Geneva, NY. They were 
working a manure spread that was sandwiched between 2 strips of snowy field. To 
my surprise and amazement, many of the birds were rubbing their bellies in the 
snow! Some of the birds simply rubbed their bellies while other rubbed their 
bellies and also tossed some snow around with their head and beak. This time of 
year their heads are brownish but will be all white come time to breed.
Anyway it was a cool thing to observe so hot on the heels of having read about 
it.
The things we see when we look!
Pete Sar
P.S. I see that Sibley actually has a nice drawing of this in his "Birds East" 
book, pg. 333.
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Chickadee flock?

[Rachel Lodder]

I once encountered A LOT of chickadees along Cayuga Lake. There was a row of 
trees beside the road, and as a couple of us were birding the lake, there was a 
steady stream of chickadees moving past us in the trees headed north, so it was 
easy to tell they weren't the same birds. I don't see my eBird checklist (maybe 
I didn't make one, I can't remember), so I don't have any more exact numbers, 
but we were all impressed with the number of chickadees that went by and I'm 
sure it was over 50. Not sure why or what they were up to!


From: bounce-125403482-81221...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Suan Yong 

Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:00 PM
To: Cayuga Birding List 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Chickadee flock?

While cross-country skiing through Hammond Hill, I saw a flock of about 50 
small birds moving through some evergreens, in fairly tight quarters, in waves 
of 5-10 at a time. The only sounds I could hear and identify were chickadee 
chips and calls. I'm used to only encountering chickadees in small flocks of 
maybe 5-10, and this big flock seems unusual. They were too far to ID without 
binoculars. Conceivably they were redpolls or something else, but I heard 
nothing to suggest anything besides chickadees.

Suan
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Brown-headed Cow Birds

[Rachel Lodder]

I had one at my feeders this past week, too. In Newfield, the day before the 
storm. I haven't seen it since.


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 on behalf of Regi Teasley 

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 10:30 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Brown-headed Cow Birds

Just now (10:30 am) we have three Brown-Headed Cow Birds on our tray feeder and 
on the ground.

Regi Teasley
West Hill in the city


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[cayugabirds-l] Hawk and Mourning Dove

[Rachel Lodder]

This afternoon, I was in our kitchen when there was a sudden gun-shot sound at 
the window. I rushed outside to look and saw a Sharp-shinned or Coopers Hawk 
with a Mourning Dove fall to the ground nearby in a flurry of feathers. My 
presence made the hawk fly off even though I dodged right back inside, and the 
dove died right there. They had both slammed into the window; it's amazing the 
window didn't break. The hawk never did return for its meal.

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[cayugabirds-l] Red-winged Blackbird

[Rachel Lodder]

One adult male at my feeders today. With very numerous tree sparrows, juncos, 
chickadees and titmice.
Braving the cold and wind.

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[cayugabirds-l] Crows at my feeders

[Rachel Lodder]

Crows (4 to 12 at a time, who knows if they are the same birds, with more in 
the trees) have ascended upon my bird feeders, eating spilled seed on the 
ground. I've never had crows as a feeder bird before, although we have many 
around our grain farm. Pretty impressive; they look huge next to the other 
birds! They're very flighty, and easily spooked. I guess now we know it's cold!

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[cayugabirds-l] Redpolls

[Rachel Lodder]

The redpolls on Tucker Rd., Trumansburg, are continuing. I was there today at 
11 am and at noon, and they were there, feeding on seeds of velvet leaf, and 
foraging on the ground, and on the shoulder of the road.
Rachel

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Redpolls, Aiken Rd. in Enfield

[Rachel Lodder]

Looked like the seeds of "weeds" - plants alongside the road.

From: Regi Teasley 
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 9:56 PM
To: Rachel Lodder
Cc: ; Barbara Bauer Sadovnic
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Redpolls, Aiken Rd. in Enfield

Thanks for this.  Does anyone know what they are eating?

Regi
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David Thoreau

On Jan 9, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Rachel Lodder 
mailto:rachel.lod...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I saw them there today at 2 pm, as well - maybe 130-40? It was really difficult 
counting them in the wind!
They were about 1/4 mile down from the corner of Tucker and Aiken Roads, on the 
east side of Tucker, feeding in the brush and vegetation alongside the road. 
Very easy to see! Great!


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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Redpolls, Aiken Rd. in Enfield

At least 100 redpolls were at the corner of Aiken and Tucker Roads, and in the 
weeds further up Tucker today.  I’ve seen them several times here in the last 
few weeks, but this was the first time they let themselves be photographed 
(badly!) and counted!


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Redpolls, Aiken Rd. in Enfield

[Rachel Lodder]

I saw them there today at 2 pm, as well - maybe 130-40? It was really difficult 
counting them in the wind!
They were about 1/4 mile down from the corner of Tucker and Aiken Roads, on the 
east side of Tucker, feeding in the brush and vegetation alongside the road. 
Very easy to see! Great!


From: bounce-123228757-81221...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Barbara Bauer 
Sadovnic 
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 6:29 PM
To: 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Redpolls, Aiken Rd. in Enfield

At least 100 redpolls were at the corner of Aiken and Tucker Roads, and in the 
weeds further up Tucker today.  I’ve seen them several times here in the last 
few weeks, but this was the first time they let themselves be photographed 
(badly!) and counted!


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[cayugabirds-l] Evening Grosbeaks

[Rachel Lodder]

So happy that I got some here at my feeders this morning (in Newfield, near 
Connecticut Hill)! Quite a few of them, I'd guess about 20, and the crabapple 
tree where the feeders are seemed full of them. Unfortunately, they flew off 
rather quickly. Hoping they return.
American Tree Sparrows here too.

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