Re: [cayugabirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!

2013-12-06 Thread Elizabeth B. King
Thanks John for identifying our bat. I'm sorry it's gone. A few years ago 
we took a birding trip in the UK. The co-leader was Patty Briggs who is a 
bat expert in England and she instilled in us a real appreciation of bats. 
She told us how some bats hibernate in some of the huge ancient cathedrals 
in the UK and they are definitely tolerated there. They just cover up the 
very old carved wood surfaces to protect them from the bat poop and let the 
bats stay. Elizabeth King

At 09:11 AM 12/6/2013, John Confer wrote:
>I spent a summer banding bats in Indiana as part of an undergrad project 
>from Earlham College. It was supervised by Jim Cope, father of Ed Cope of 
>our Ithaca community. We banded 10,000in one summer mainly from large 
>breeding colonies. My first science paper was on the results of that bat study.
>
>Probably the red bat was the "Red Bat" Lasiurus borealis. As Alyssia said, 
>some bats hybernate at our latitude. The temperature needs to be not too 
>cold, or they will use up all of their energy trying to keep warm before 
>spring returns, but not too warm, or their temperature will drop to the 
>ambient and metabolism will not slow down enough to make the body fuel 
>last until spring.
>The chance that the bats have rabies, which they do carry, is very small. 
>They do poop and pee during the winter, which can leave stains and smells. 
>Otherwise, they are harmless and interesting.
>
>John Confer
>
>On 12/5/2013 5:34 PM, 
>alyssajohns...@aol.com wrote:
>>Betsy, I'd love to see your picture. Also, there are both tree and cave 
>>bats it NY. Typically the tree bats are here in summer and migrate. Cave 
>>bats are the ones we find in our attics this time of year. Attics make 
>>great pseudo caves! There are multiple species of each. I recently wrote 
>>a blog entry on them, if interested!
>>
>>
>>http://blog.timesunion.com/nywildlife/readers-write-in-bats-of-ny/1762/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>- Reply message -
>>From: "Elizabeth B. King" 
>>To: "Betsy Darlington" 
>>, 
>>
>>Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!
>>Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 5:24 PM
>>
>>
>>I'd be interested in the answers you get. We have had bats hibernating in 
>>our garage for years. We've sealed up every possible entry space but they 
>>still get in. They live in our bat house in the summer but they prefer 
>>the warm garage in the winter. We had a beautiful orange (!) bat on a 
>>deck railing last month. I can send a picture if anyone can identify it 
>>for me. Thanks, Elizabeth King
>>
>>At 05:00 PM 12/5/2013, Betsy Darlington wrote:
>>>Does anyone know of a bat expert in Ithaca - perhaps at Cornell or 
>>>IC?  We had two bats show up in our house last night, a little after 
>>>midnight!  We have no idea how they got in, and we were unable to catch 
>>>them in our bat net and release them, so they no doubt will show up 
>>>again.  They didn't fly around much, unlike the ones that get in during 
>>>the summer.  Does anyone know if they hibernate in people's attics in 
>>>Ithaca or should they be off in a cave somewhere?
>>>Thanks!
>>>Betsy
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!

2013-12-06 Thread Claire Damaske
I don't know if it's okay to keep this going, but... We have bats in our
attic and our barn.  I'm not really sure if they stay all winter.  But we
usually have 3 or 4 come into the living quarters during the summer.  I
think it would be a good idea to ban them from the attic, but don't know
how to be successful in a safe way for the bats.  Does anyone have advice?


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Pete M. Marchetto <
pete.marche...@cornell.edu> wrote:

>  On Dec 6, 2013, at 9:11 AM, John Confer 
>  wrote:
>
> They do poop and pee during the winter, which can leave stains and smells.
>
>
> Stupid question, but what do they do the rest of the year?
> But in all seriousness, thanks for the useful information! I've had close
> interactions with two Myotis: one in my living room, and the other in the
> food court at the Ithaca Mall. Both were successfully evacuated. We often
> watch our local bats on summer evenings, buzzing our house, but have not
> gotten a good enough look to tell the species of our little neighbors.
>
>  -Pete
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!

2013-12-06 Thread Pete M. Marchetto
On Dec 6, 2013, at 9:11 AM, John Confer 
mailto:con...@ithaca.edu>>
 wrote:

They do poop and pee during the winter, which can leave stains and smells.

Stupid question, but what do they do the rest of the year?
But in all seriousness, thanks for the useful information! I've had close 
interactions with two Myotis: one in my living room, and the other in the food 
court at the Ithaca Mall. Both were successfully evacuated. We often watch our 
local bats on summer evenings, buzzing our house, but have not gotten a good 
enough look to tell the species of our little neighbors.

-Pete

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!

2013-12-06 Thread Robin Cisne
I installed a bat house on the southeast side of my house over a year ago,
but haven't attracted any customers.  There aren't any bat lures, are
there?  ; )

Robin


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:11 AM, John Confer  wrote:

>  I spent a summer banding bats in Indiana as part of an undergrad project
> from Earlham College. It was supervised by Jim Cope, father of Ed Cope of
> our Ithaca community. We banded 10,000in one summer mainly from large
> breeding colonies. My first science paper was on the results of that bat
> study.
>
> Probably the red bat was the "Red Bat" Lasiurus borealis. As Alyssia said,
> some bats hybernate at our latitude. The temperature needs to be not too
> cold, or they will use up all of their energy trying to keep warm before
> spring returns, but not too warm, or their temperature will drop to the
> ambient and metabolism will not slow down enough to make the body fuel last
> until spring.
> The chance that the bats have rabies, which they do carry, is very small.
> They do poop and pee during the winter, which can leave stains and smells.
> Otherwise, they are harmless and interesting.
>
> John Confer
>
> On 12/5/2013 5:34 PM, alyssajohns...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Betsy, I'd love to see your picture. Also, there are both tree and cave
> bats it NY. Typically the tree bats are here in summer and migrate. Cave
> bats are the ones we find in our attics this time of year. Attics make
> great pseudo caves! There are multiple species of each. I recently wrote a
> blog entry on them, if interested!
>
>
> http://blog.timesunion.com/nywildlife/readers-write-in-bats-of-ny/1762/
>
>
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Elizabeth B. King"  
> To: "Betsy Darlington" ,
>  
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!
> Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 5:24 PM
>
>
> I'd be interested in the answers you get. We have had bats hibernating in
> our garage for years. We've sealed up every possible entry space but they
> still get in. They live in our bat house in the summer but they prefer the
> warm garage in the winter. We had a beautiful orange (!) bat on a deck
> railing last month. I can send a picture if anyone can identify it for me.
> Thanks, Elizabeth King
>
> At 05:00 PM 12/5/2013, Betsy Darlington wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a bat expert in Ithaca - perhaps at Cornell or IC?  We
> had two bats show up in our house last night, a little after midnight!  We
> have no idea how they got in, and we were unable to catch them in our bat
> net and release them, so they no doubt will show up again.  They didn't fly
> around much, unlike the ones that get in during the summer.  Does anyone
> know if they hibernate in people's attics in Ithaca or should they be off
> in a cave somewhere?
> Thanks!
> Betsy
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!

2013-12-06 Thread John Confer
I spent a summer banding bats in Indiana as part of an undergrad project 
from Earlham College. It was supervised by Jim Cope, father of Ed Cope 
of our Ithaca community. We banded 10,000in one summer mainly from large 
breeding colonies. My first science paper was on the results of that bat 
study.

Probably the red bat was the "Red Bat" Lasiurus borealis. As Alyssia 
said, some bats hybernate at our latitude. The temperature needs to be 
not too cold, or they will use up all of their energy trying to keep 
warm before spring returns, but not too warm, or their temperature will 
drop to the ambient and metabolism will not slow down enough to make the 
body fuel last until spring.
The chance that the bats have rabies, which they do carry, is very 
small. They do poop and pee during the winter, which can leave stains 
and smells. Otherwise, they are harmless and interesting.

John Confer

On 12/5/2013 5:34 PM, alyssajohns...@aol.com wrote:
> Betsy, I'd love to see your picture. Also, there are both tree and 
> cave bats it NY. Typically the tree bats are here in summer and 
> migrate. Cave bats are the ones we find in our attics this time of 
> year. Attics make great pseudo caves! There are multiple species of 
> each. I recently wrote a blog entry on them, if interested!
>
>
> http://blog.timesunion.com/nywildlife/readers-write-in-bats-of-ny/1762/
>
>
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Elizabeth B. King" 
> To: "Betsy Darlington" , 
> 
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!
> Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 5:24 PM
>
>
> I'd be interested in the answers you get. We have had bats hibernating 
> in our garage for years. We've sealed up every possible entry space 
> but they still get in. They live in our bat house in the summer but 
> they prefer the warm garage in the winter. We had a beautiful orange 
> (!) bat on a deck railing last month. I can send a picture if anyone 
> can identify it for me. Thanks, Elizabeth King
>
> At 05:00 PM 12/5/2013, Betsy Darlington wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a bat expert in Ithaca - perhaps at Cornell or 
>> IC?  We had two bats show up in our house last night, a little after 
>> midnight!  We have no idea how they got in, and we were unable to 
>> catch them in our bat net and release them, so they no doubt will 
>> show up again.  They didn't fly around much, unlike the ones that get 
>> in during the summer.  Does anyone know if they hibernate in people's 
>> attics in Ithaca or should they be off in a cave somewhere?
>> Thanks!
>> Betsy
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[cayugabirds-l] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!

2013-12-05 Thread alyssajohnson0
Betsy, I'd love to see your picture. Also, there are both tree and cave bats it 
NY. Typically the tree bats are here in summer and migrate. Cave bats are the 
ones we find in our attics this time of year. Attics make great pseudo caves! 
There are multiple species of each. I recently wrote a blog entry on them, if 
interested! 


http://blog.timesunion.com/nywildlife/readers-write-in-bats-of-ny/1762/




- Reply message -
From: "Elizabeth B. King" 
To: "Betsy Darlington" , 
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Bats!
Date: Thu, Dec 5, 2013 5:24 PM
I'd be interested in the answers you get. We have had bats hibernating in
our garage for years. We've sealed up every possible entry space but they
still get in. They live in our bat house in the summer but they prefer
the warm garage in the winter. We had a beautiful orange (!) bat on a
deck railing last month. I can send a picture if anyone can identify it
for me. Thanks, Elizabeth King


At 05:00 PM 12/5/2013, Betsy Darlington wrote:

Does anyone know of a bat expert
in Ithaca - perhaps at Cornell or IC?  We had two bats show up in
our house last night, a little after midnight!  We have no idea how
they got in, and we were unable to catch them in our bat net and release
them, so they no doubt will show up again.  They didn't fly around
much, unlike the ones that get in during the summer.  Does anyone
know if they hibernate in people's attics in Ithaca or should they be off
in a cave somewhere?

Thanks!

Betsy

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