RE: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

2013-08-21 Thread Marie P. Read
RHWOs were definitely bringing out fecal material this morning...saw it twice. 
Given that the young inside are not so big as to prevent the adults from 
entering easily, I'd say it will be a week yet before fledging, maybe longer. 

Photos to come...

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Tom Riley and Bill Roberts first noted 2 adult Red-headed Woodpeckers flying 
around along South Mays Point Road on Wednesday 3 July. On 7 July I saw each 
adult tossing wood chips from separate apparently old holes in the same dead 
tree. I think they have since concentrated on just one of those holes.

--Dave Nutter



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

2013-08-20 Thread Dave Nutter
Tom Riley and Bill Roberts first noted 2 adult Red-headed Woodpeckers flying around along South Mays Point Road on Wednesday 3 July. On 7 July I saw each adult tossing wood chips from separate apparently old holes in the same dead tree. I think they have since concentrated on just one of those holes. --Dave NutterOn Aug 20, 2013, at 08:12 PM, Paul  wrote:Have not seen them bringing out fecal sacs, and have been looking for that.  Any seen that?   It is definitely possible this is food caching.  Looked up the background in Kaufman’s Lives of North American Birds.  It mentions caching of acorns, beechnuts, not berries. Says they are the most omnivorous of woodpeckers.  But why would they cache insects?  Seems a poor choice. Now, I am wondering about the timing of this pair at this location. When were they first seen excavating the cavity? Says a second brood is possible; incubation 12-13 days and fledging in 27-31 days.  That predicts fledging in 39 to 44 days from onset.  How does that match with dates when they were excavating?  Does anyone have the key dates? Paul Schmitt From: Dave Nutter Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:32 PMTo: Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point I'm not surprised at them eating fruit, which I've seen many woodpecker species do many times, but I am surprised they would feed fruit to nestlings. Is it possible they are caching the food? Has anyone seen the adults emerge with fecal sacs? Would this species carry off fecal sacs? Nice photos by the way, Paul, and thanks for taking the time to observe carefully.--Dave NutterOn Aug 20, 2013, at 07:06 PM, Anne Clark  wrote:Back in the 80's when I was living in SW Michigan (near Kellogg Biological Station, in Delton, MI), a pair of red-headed woodpeckers brought their fledglings every year to eat mulberries at a productive group of trees.  More unusual that they would take them to protein-needy nestlings (albeit very late nestlings).  But robins in the same Michigan property fed their nestlings on mulberries.  Anne Clark On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Paul wrote:Spent about three hours watching the Red-headed Woodpeckers at May�s Point this morning. Very active until about 10 am.  Saw an interesting sequence when a Merlin made a pass at the nest cavity,, actually several passes to which the adult RHW responded with loud calls and some defensive attacks.  Thereafter, the pair were on sentry duty, one in an adjacent cavity watching south and the other to the north in a tree along the river.  The Merlin was in the area for about 5 minutes. They stayed on alert for about 20 minutes longer before resuming activity. More interesting was a discovery on what they are bringing into the nest cavity.  (Have not yet seen chicks at the opening. Has anyone?) While sometimes, I can see that they are bringing insects such as dragonflies, at other times it appeared to be round objects.  Did not seem possible to be acorns.  Now, I�ve posted some images on my blog  (http://birds-n-blooms.blogspot.com/) which show an adult bringing wild grapes to the cavity. There are ripe grapes on the vines in the area. On my first visit (July 24), I recorded an adult picking Woody Nightshade berries from vines at the base of dead trees to the north east of the nest tree. Had not expected woodpeckers to be eating fruit. Paul Schmitt--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!-- --Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!--
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

2013-08-20 Thread joe & Diana
Hi, 
 I was only able to observe them a couple of times. The first dates are on 
7/08/ 2013 and the ones where I saw them going back and forth from the nesting 
cavity are on 8/12. On the July date, they were still excavating. Here is a 
link to one leaving the cavity with what I assume is a fecal sac.
http://www.dianawhitingphotography.com/Galleries/Birds/Passerines/12959449_8PScNT#!i=2713829101&k=jc4LbbC

Diana
On Aug 20, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Paul wrote:

> Have not seen them bringing out fecal sacs, and have been looking for that.  
> Any seen that?   It is definitely possible this is food caching.  Looked up 
> the background in Kaufman’s Lives of North American Birds.  It mentions 
> caching of acorns, beechnuts, not berries. Says they are the most omnivorous 
> of woodpeckers.  But why would they cache insects?  Seems a poor choice.
>  
> Now, I am wondering about the timing of this pair at this location. When were 
> they first seen excavating the cavity? Says a second brood is possible; 
> incubation 12-13 days and fledging in 27-31 days.  That predicts fledging in 
> 39 to 44 days from onset.  How does that match with dates when they were 
> excavating?  Does anyone have the key dates?
>  
> Paul Schmitt
>  
> From: Dave Nutter
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:32 PM
> To: Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point
>  
> I'm not surprised at them eating fruit, which I've seen many woodpecker 
> species do many times, but I am surprised they would feed fruit to nestlings. 
> Is it possible they are caching the food? Has anyone seen the adults emerge 
> with fecal sacs? Would this species carry off fecal sacs? Nice photos by the 
> way, Paul, and thanks for taking the time to observe carefully.
> --Dave Nutter
> 
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 07:06 PM, Anne Clark  wrote:
> 
>> Back in the 80's when I was living in SW Michigan (near Kellogg Biological 
>> Station, in Delton, MI), a pair of red-headed woodpeckers brought their 
>> fledglings every year to eat mulberries at a productive group of trees. 
>>  
>> More unusual that they would take them to protein-needy nestlings (albeit 
>> very late nestlings).  But robins in the same Michigan property fed their 
>> nestlings on mulberries. 
>>  
>> Anne Clark
>>  
>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Paul wrote:
>> 
>>> Spent about three hours watching the Red-headed Woodpeckers at May�s Point 
>>> this morning. Very active until about 10 am.  Saw an interesting sequence 
>>> when a Merlin made a pass at the nest cavity,, actually several passes to 
>>> which the adult RHW responded with loud calls and some defensive attacks.  
>>> Thereafter, the pair were on sentry duty, one in an adjacent cavity 
>>> watching south and the other to the north in a tree along the river.  The 
>>> Merlin was in the area for about 5 minutes. They stayed on alert for about 
>>> 20 minutes longer before resuming activity.
>>>  
>>> More interesting was a discovery on what they are bringing into the nest 
>>> cavity.  (Have not yet seen chicks at the opening. Has anyone?) While 
>>> sometimes, I can see that they are bringing insects such as dragonflies, at 
>>> other times it appeared to be round objects.  Did not seem possible to be 
>>> acorns.  Now, I�ve posted some images on my blog  
>>> (http://birds-n-blooms.blogspot.com/) which show an adult bringing wild 
>>> grapes to the cavity. There are ripe grapes on the vines in the area. On my 
>>> first visit (July 24), I recorded an adult picking Woody Nightshade berries 
>>> from vines at the base of dead trees to the north east of the nest tree. 
>>> Had not expected woodpeckers to be eating fruit.
>>>  
>>> Paul Schmitt
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

2013-08-20 Thread Paul
Have not seen them bringing out fecal sacs, and have been looking for that.  
Any seen that?   It is definitely possible this is food caching.  Looked up the 
background in Kaufman’s Lives of North American Birds.  It mentions caching of 
acorns, beechnuts, not berries. Says they are the most omnivorous of 
woodpeckers.  But why would they cache insects?  Seems a poor choice.

Now, I am wondering about the timing of this pair at this location. When were 
they first seen excavating the cavity? Says a second brood is possible; 
incubation 12-13 days and fledging in 27-31 days.  That predicts fledging in 39 
to 44 days from onset.  How does that match with dates when they were 
excavating?  Does anyone have the key dates?

Paul Schmitt

From: Dave Nutter 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:32 PM
To: Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

I'm not surprised at them eating fruit, which I've seen many woodpecker species 
do many times, but I am surprised they would feed fruit to nestlings. Is it 
possible they are caching the food? Has anyone seen the adults emerge with 
fecal sacs? Would this species carry off fecal sacs? Nice photos by the way, 
Paul, and thanks for taking the time to observe carefully.

--Dave Nutter
On Aug 20, 2013, at 07:06 PM, Anne Clark  wrote:


  Back in the 80's when I was living in SW Michigan (near Kellogg Biological 
Station, in Delton, MI), a pair of red-headed woodpeckers brought their 
fledglings every year to eat mulberries at a productive group of trees.  

  More unusual that they would take them to protein-needy nestlings (albeit 
very late nestlings).  But robins in the same Michigan property fed their 
nestlings on mulberries.  

  Anne Clark

  On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Paul wrote:


Spent about three hours watching the Red-headed Woodpeckers at May�s Point 
this morning. Very active until about 10 am.  Saw an interesting sequence when 
a Merlin made a pass at the nest cavity,, actually several passes to which the 
adult RHW responded with loud calls and some defensive attacks.  Thereafter, 
the pair were on sentry duty, one in an adjacent cavity watching south and the 
other to the north in a tree along the river.  The Merlin was in the area for 
about 5 minutes. They stayed on alert for about 20 minutes longer before 
resuming activity.

More interesting was a discovery on what they are bringing into the nest 
cavity.  (Have not yet seen chicks at the opening. Has anyone?) While 
sometimes, I can see that they are bringing insects such as dragonflies, at 
other times it appeared to be round objects.  Did not seem possible to be 
acorns.  Now, I�ve posted some images on my blog  
(http://birds-n-blooms.blogspot.com/) which show an adult bringing wild grapes 
to the cavity. There are ripe grapes on the vines in the area. On my first 
visit (July 24), I recorded an adult picking Woody Nightshade berries from 
vines at the base of dead trees to the north east of the nest tree. Had not 
expected woodpeckers to be eating fruit.

Paul Schmitt
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

2013-08-20 Thread Ann Mitchell
I thought I mentioned it before, but  Linda Clougherty and I saw then caching 
food a couple weeks ago. We did see them with some kind of nut and also 
insects. Really cool!

Ann Mitchell
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On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "Marie P. Read"  wrote:

> Hey there's a thought...caching food...definitely something that woodpeckers 
> do. 
> Anyway, woodpeckers do indeed bring out fecal material (a mix of droppings 
> and wood chips rather than a sac (songbirds only I think)), but one might 
> have to watch for a number of hours before it happens. 
> 
> I may have to head up there myself...I know, what took me so long, right?
> 
> Marie
> 
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> From: bounce-107847794-5851...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-107847794-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Dave Nutter 
> [nutter.d...@me.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:32 PM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point
> 
> I'm not surprised at them eating fruit, which I've seen many woodpecker 
> species do many times, but I am surprised they would feed fruit to nestlings. 
> Is it possible they are caching the food? Has anyone seen the adults emerge 
> with fecal sacs? Would this species carry off fecal sacs? Nice photos by the 
> way, Paul, and thanks for taking the time to observe carefully.
> 
> --Dave Nutter
> 
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 07:06 PM, Anne Clark  wrote:
> 
> Back in the 80's when I was living in SW Michigan (near Kellogg Biological 
> Station, in Delton, MI), a pair of red-headed woodpeckers brought their 
> fledglings every year to eat mulberries at a productive group of trees.
> 
> More unusual that they would take them to protein-needy nestlings (albeit 
> very late nestlings).  But robins in the same Michigan property fed their 
> nestlings on mulberries.
> 
> Anne Clark
> 
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Paul wrote:
> 
> Spent about three hours watching the Red-headed Woodpeckers at May’s Point 
> this morning. Very active until about 10 am.  Saw an interesting sequence 
> when a Merlin made a pass at the nest cavity,, actually several passes to 
> which the adult RHW responded with loud calls and some defensive attacks.  
> Thereafter, the pair were on sentry duty, one in an adjacent cavity watching 
> south and the other to the north in a tree along the river.  The Merlin was 
> in the area for about 5 minutes. They stayed on alert for about 20 minutes 
> longer before resuming activity.
> 
> More interesting was a discovery on what they are bringing into the nest 
> cavity.  (Have not yet seen chicks at the opening. Has anyone?) While 
> sometimes, I can see that they are bringing insects such as dragonflies, at 
> other times it appeared to be round objects.  Did not seem possible to be 
> acorns.  Now, I’ve posted some images on my blog  
> (http://birds-n-blooms.blogspot.com/) which show an adult bringing wild 
> grapes to the cavity. There are ripe grapes on the vines in the area. On my 
> first visit (July 24), I recorded an adult picking Woody Nightshade berries 
> from vines at the base of dead trees to the north east of the nest tree. Had 
> not expected woodpeckers to be eating fruit.
> 
> Paul Schmitt
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

2013-08-20 Thread Marie P. Read
Hey there's a thought...caching food...definitely something that woodpeckers 
do. 
Anyway, woodpeckers do indeed bring out fecal material (a mix of droppings and 
wood chips rather than a sac (songbirds only I think)), but one might have to 
watch for a number of hours before it happens. 

I may have to head up there myself...I know, what took me so long, right?

Marie


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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

I'm not surprised at them eating fruit, which I've seen many woodpecker species 
do many times, but I am surprised they would feed fruit to nestlings. Is it 
possible they are caching the food? Has anyone seen the adults emerge with 
fecal sacs? Would this species carry off fecal sacs? Nice photos by the way, 
Paul, and thanks for taking the time to observe carefully.

--Dave Nutter

On Aug 20, 2013, at 07:06 PM, Anne Clark  wrote:

Back in the 80's when I was living in SW Michigan (near Kellogg Biological 
Station, in Delton, MI), a pair of red-headed woodpeckers brought their 
fledglings every year to eat mulberries at a productive group of trees.

More unusual that they would take them to protein-needy nestlings (albeit very 
late nestlings).  But robins in the same Michigan property fed their nestlings 
on mulberries.

Anne Clark

On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Paul wrote:

Spent about three hours watching the Red-headed Woodpeckers at May’s Point this 
morning. Very active until about 10 am.  Saw an interesting sequence when a 
Merlin made a pass at the nest cavity,, actually several passes to which the 
adult RHW responded with loud calls and some defensive attacks.  Thereafter, 
the pair were on sentry duty, one in an adjacent cavity watching south and the 
other to the north in a tree along the river.  The Merlin was in the area for 
about 5 minutes. They stayed on alert for about 20 minutes longer before 
resuming activity.

More interesting was a discovery on what they are bringing into the nest 
cavity.  (Have not yet seen chicks at the opening. Has anyone?) While 
sometimes, I can see that they are bringing insects such as dragonflies, at 
other times it appeared to be round objects.  Did not seem possible to be 
acorns.  Now, I’ve posted some images on my blog  
(http://birds-n-blooms.blogspot.com/) which show an adult bringing wild grapes 
to the cavity. There are ripe grapes on the vines in the area. On my first 
visit (July 24), I recorded an adult picking Woody Nightshade berries from 
vines at the base of dead trees to the north east of the nest tree. Had not 
expected woodpeckers to be eating fruit.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

2013-08-20 Thread Dave Nutter
I'm not surprised at them eating fruit, which I've seen many woodpecker species do many times, but I am surprised they would feed fruit to nestlings. Is it possible they are caching the food? Has anyone seen the adults emerge with fecal sacs? Would this species carry off fecal sacs? Nice photos by the way, Paul, and thanks for taking the time to observe carefully.--Dave NutterOn Aug 20, 2013, at 07:06 PM, Anne Clark  wrote:Back in the 80's when I was living in SW Michigan (near Kellogg Biological Station, in Delton, MI), a pair of red-headed woodpeckers brought their fledglings every year to eat mulberries at a productive group of trees. More unusual that they would take them to protein-needy nestlings (albeit very late nestlings).  But robins in the same Michigan property fed their nestlings on mulberries.  Anne ClarkOn Aug 20, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Paul wrote:Spent about three hours watching the Red-headed Woodpeckers at May’s Point this morning. Very active until about 10 am.  Saw an interesting sequence when a Merlin made a pass at the nest cavity,, actually several passes to which the adult RHW responded with loud calls and some defensive attacks.  Thereafter, the pair were on sentry duty, one in an adjacent cavity watching south and the other to the north in a tree along the river.  The Merlin was in the area for about 5 minutes. They stayed on alert for about 20 minutes longer before resuming activity. More interesting was a discovery on what they are bringing into the nest cavity.  (Have not yet seen chicks at the opening. Has anyone?) While sometimes, I can see that they are bringing insects such as dragonflies, at other times it appeared to be round objects.  Did not seem possible to be acorns.  Now, I’ve posted some images on my blog  (http://birds-n-blooms.blogspot.com/) which show an adult bringing wild grapes to the cavity. There are ripe grapes on the vines in the area. On my first visit (July 24), I recorded an adult picking Woody Nightshade berries from vines at the base of dead trees to the north east of the nest tree. Had not expected woodpeckers to be eating fruit. Paul Schmitt--Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!Cayugabirds-L List Info:Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives:The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird!--
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-headed Woodpeckers at May's Point

2013-08-20 Thread Anne Clark
Back in the 80's when I was living in SW Michigan (near Kellogg Biological 
Station, in Delton, MI), a pair of red-headed woodpeckers brought their 
fledglings every year to eat mulberries at a productive group of trees. 

More unusual that they would take them to protein-needy nestlings (albeit very 
late nestlings).  But robins in the same Michigan property fed their nestlings 
on mulberries.  

Anne Clark

On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Paul wrote:

> Spent about three hours watching the Red-headed Woodpeckers at May’s Point 
> this morning. Very active until about 10 am.  Saw an interesting sequence 
> when a Merlin made a pass at the nest cavity,, actually several passes to 
> which the adult RHW responded with loud calls and some defensive attacks.  
> Thereafter, the pair were on sentry duty, one in an adjacent cavity watching 
> south and the other to the north in a tree along the river.  The Merlin was 
> in the area for about 5 minutes. They stayed on alert for about 20 minutes 
> longer before resuming activity.
>  
> More interesting was a discovery on what they are bringing into the nest 
> cavity.  (Have not yet seen chicks at the opening. Has anyone?) While 
> sometimes, I can see that they are bringing insects such as dragonflies, at 
> other times it appeared to be round objects.  Did not seem possible to be 
> acorns.  Now, I’ve posted some images on my blog  
> (http://birds-n-blooms.blogspot.com/) which show an adult bringing wild 
> grapes to the cavity. There are ripe grapes on the vines in the area. On my 
> first visit (July 24), I recorded an adult picking Woody Nightshade berries 
> from vines at the base of dead trees to the north east of the nest tree. Had 
> not expected woodpeckers to be eating fruit.
>  
> Paul Schmitt
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