from:"Joel"

hy people,

does cipc get vlan through cdp?? i have read in cisco.com that it does
indeed happen... but i have tried many times and could not make it
happen. when i have to put it in the voice vlan i have to give access
vlan command to the switchport.

one reason the voice vlan command doesnt work may be because the pc
port doesnt know how to tag them...(i've tried only on older switches
so need to make the port trunk manually)... may be newer switch models
have no such problems(but dual vlan is still  a mini trunk right so
does pc port know how to deal with it?)... i have noticed that when i
install cipc, it also installs many networking stuffs like qos and cdp
support..(check network properties)...

joel.
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] any one interested in irc??

hy,

if anyone is interested in communication through irc; irc.freenode.net
#cciev would be a good place... i think its more scalable than
msn..etc... so if anyone wanna hop by it would be great...

joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] cipc gets voice vlan through switchport voice vlan ??

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cipc/2_1/english/administration/guide/cag21ovr.html

check out the cdp in the table... Cisco IP Communicator uses CDP to
communicate information such as auxiliary VLAN ID, per-port power
management details, and QoS3 configuration information with the Cisco
Catalyst switch.

joel.

On 8/14/09, Jonathan Charles jonv...@gmail.com wrote:
I have seen CIPC pick up the option 150 TFTP server (from the data
vlan)... but the only way to get CIPC onto the voice vlan is to make
the switchport the pc is connected to an access port on the voice
vlan...

This is why Cisco has the untrusted PC with ip softphone as a QoS
option for switches...

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Joel Josejoeljose...@gmail.com wrote:
hy people,

does cipc get vlan through cdp?? i have read in cisco.com that it does
indeed happen... but i have tried many times and could not make it
happen. when i have to put it in the voice vlan i have to give access
vlan command to the switchport.

one reason the voice vlan command doesnt work may be because the pc
port doesnt know how to tag them...(i've tried only on older switches
so need to make the port trunk manually)... may be newer switch models
have no such problems(but dual vlan is still a mini trunk right so
does pc port know how to deal with it?)... i have noticed that when i
install cipc, it also installs many networking stuffs like qos and cdp
support..(check network properties)...

joel.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] cipc gets voice vlan through switchport voice vlan ??

Since ip cant be learnt through cdp(the above guide itself says so)
the main reason of the cdp will be to give vlan id from switch... it
only makes sense if voice vlan can be assigned by swicth port voice
vlan and hence qos and security can be given specific to the cipc and
not to the pc in general(even if some hacking software modifies the
dscp codes of say torrent traffic ;P )

either it doesnt work the documented way..or i just dont know how to
make them work...mostly the later..when was the last time cisco was
wrong?? ;P

joel.

On 8/14/09, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cipc/2_1/english/administration/guide/cag21ovr.html

joel.

This is why Cisco has the untrusted PC with ip softphone as a QoS
option for switches...

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Joel Josejoeljose...@gmail.com wrote:
hy people,

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] V3 notes, etc. HTH

2009-08-11 Thread Joel Jose

that was an important read. I have a feeling thats going to be the important
read for me for a while. Thank you for your time in writing this.
and congrats for your #... its a work in progress for me...

joel.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Tanner Ezell tanner.ez...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for that Art, very valuable insight!

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Art Sandborgh asandbo...@hotmail.comwrote:

  All,
 As promised here are the questions and my answers, and also since several
 list members asked about strategy I’ve added a couple sections on both study
 and lab.  Finally I have included a lessons learned section.  All of the
 following is based on my experiences preparing for, and sitting the exam and
 are in no way representative of what someone else should necessarily do.  If
 they help you, great.  If you have a better or alternative method, by all
 means please help the other list membership by posting it.  This is what
 finally allowed me to pass the V3 lab and hopefully it will aid others in
 their efforts to do the same.

 QA I have rec’d and responded to:

 1. q. How have the proctors adjusted to the V3 lab content?  Are they
 familiar with it or has anyone encountered confusion or bewilderment on
 behalf of the proctor due to the new content in lab?
 a. I asked a few questions of one proctor – none were terribly technical
 that I can recall, but he was able to answer them immediately and clearly,
 which implied to me that he was quite familiar with what I was asking about.

 2. q. Do you work with Voice more than any other area of Cisco
 technology?
 a. Yes I have worked voice - primarily Cisco voice products since 2000.
 In the last two years it has been exclusively voice.  Working with it in the
 field helps develop troubleshooting techniques and a deeper understanding of
 the product set system wide, but you also develop habits that don't
 necessarily transport to the lab well.

 3. q. Your history is much like mine, I've taken V1, V2 and now heading
 toward V3.  Can you tell me what you changed in studying that allowed a pass
 this time?
 a. I will cover this below in the strategy section below

 4. q. I do want to know how long you studied every day, my family is
 starting to get annoyed by my lack of just being there (lights on but nobody
 home) when I’m home labbing. How did you cope? Lots of coffee, monster
 drinks, redbull?
 a. This is a tough subject and I had it easy by comparison to many on this
 list.  Since it spanned five years it went in spurts and starts – and yes my
 family did get annoyed at times, but luckily my employer was supportive
 through the entire gig and when I wasn’t billable I was able to study during
 the day.  Towards the end they also took me off of availability and allowed
 me to prepare full time.  Generally I would lab for about eight to ten hours
 starting at 6:00AM and then do another 2 to 3 hours of research and
 technology work after that – or until my brain shut down.  Let's face it -
 what you ask about is time management - it's a big part of the lab
 preparations as well as the lab itself.  I don’t consider myself an expert
 on this at all – perhaps other folks can contribute thoughts/strategies?

 5. q. What is the equipment list of you home lab?
 a. Please see below – I have no home lab.


 Training Resources
 I used IPExpert/Proctorlabs and this list as my sole providers of
 certification materials and instruction other than materials on CCO.  I
 signed up for their end-to-end program last year and sat two of their
 instructor led boot-camps (the second time free – per their guarantee).
 Both classes were very valuable in my overall preparation – not only for the
 technical information gathered but for the lab strategies and
 information/analysis of the CCIE Voice sections of Cisco Live.   I attribute
 a good deal of my success in passing this round (V3) to the materials and
 instruction from IPExpert, as well as all of the V2 materials that are still
 applicable.  I also would like to recognize Vik Malhi for helping me adapt
 my field deployment habits to effective lab execution routines.

 Equipment
 I utilized a mix of Proctorlabs racks and a shared company rack that had
 2800s, 3800s, a 3745, UC500 and a 7845 with 8gig fully loaded disk and
 VMware ESX for the five servers needed for V3.  For some exercises the
 proctorlabs racks were more appropriate.   We are utilizing our old Unity 4
 box from the V2 lab for the AD/LDAP integration for V3.   I had no home lab
 since my V1 attempts.

 Preparation Strategy etc.

 1. If you haven’t already, figure out your weak points.  Mine are speed
 and stress related mistakes.  I never conquered my speed issues but the new
 lab has some aspects that I will delve into that helped reduce the need for
 brute speed on the console – for those of us lacking that talent.  I took
 other measures to mitigate my stress related problems, but they still
 plagued me.

 2. When I came to the conclusion I

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Impression of V3 - My two cents worth.

2009-08-10 Thread Joel Jose

I may be wrong havent attempted... but i think...no one can spoon feed
the #.. and yes der is diff with lot of things engineers are people who
maximise a given prob...within the given contraints if there was no
constraints , engineers would be an overkill.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Sean B Davis seanbda...@mavetech.comwrote:

  Which part? I am completely disappointed with all the training
 providers lack of prep for the new version. I do not see any thing in my
 comment that is NDA. I have given no details and will not, I am just
 saying there are technologies in the blue print that are not covered
 fully in the Workbooks out there. I am also not seeing how every
 impression posted does not even mention this. It's time someone spoke a
 little truth on this list. It's also time the the training providers
 started getting out from behind the 8 ball. If I where any of the
 training companies out there right now I would stop having classes and
 focus on getting my content up to the new blue print and not just adding
 a few things to the old content. I have now spent $6000 on over price
 workbooks and rack rentals just to be completely blindsided on the test.
 I would expect to see a few things on the test that are necessarily on
 the workbooks but not to this extent. Now ever rack providers is saying
 they will not have CUCM capabilities for the CUE until mid to late
 September. How hard is it to put a ftp client and the software on the VM
 PC??? Anwser 25 mins on our VM Ware server here in the office, the
 systems guys say the could copy the updated VM to 30 ESX boxes by
 morning! Guys that are just starting should know what is lacking, where
 is this info when you order!?  What the training providers need to
 realize is that not all off work for national Cisco parters with
 unlimited budgets and see every technology done in the real world. We
 depend on them to have update material and lab equipment/configurations.

 Sean

 c george
 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:30:00 -0700

 maybe you should rephrase your comment alittle maybe?!

 Respectfully Charles George



  Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:10:11 -0500
  From: seanbda...@mavetech.com
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Impression of V3 - My two cents worth.
 
  This was my third time around, twice with v2 now once with V3. Yes it
  was very challenging but completely doable. The big thing was the items
  that none of the prep material out there covers in-depth, including
  Cisco own SRND (it makes a good start). Sort of got blindsided by those
  items.
 
  Some hints:
 
  Do not waste too much time or money with the prep material from anyone
  at this point, they still have not got it together.
  Read the SRND word for word several times!!!
  If a rack provider cannot get the CUE loaded with CUCM version of the
  software do not buy from them
  Find the advanced dial plan presentation from Networkers 2009 and study
  like it was your bible
 
  Keep in mind 60% of the material from IPexpert, CCbootcamb, and
  Internetwork Expert will help, but is not complete enough especially in
  the advanced dial plan area and CUE with CUCM. I came close but could
  have used more study material on the dial plan, did not see the
  Networkers presentation until the day after I came back from my test.
 
  Sean Davis, CCVP(Will be CCIE on Sept 3^rd )
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab2a alternate method to limit to disable newcall when on hold..

hy,
isnt it okay to change the maximum number of calls in the line config to
1?? i get the same result... but i think it may violate the requirement of
5 max call and 3 call wait that was asked earlier... so in this case the
only correct method is the one in PG right?

joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

i may be wrong here...

but i think * means 0 or more occurance, ? means zero or one occurance and +
means 1 or more occurance. In that case... 51.+ will mean u have atleast 4
digits... the first 2 digits are 51 and the 3rd digit can be 0-9..and there
must be one more digit that is . so 0-9... there can be any more
digits..all of them . If this def is right...then 51.+/51XT is not equal to
51! or 51T as in those its 0 or more occurance...hence min required digits
is 2, unlike in former case where it is 4.


i'm still learning...so may be wrong here... dont take this verbatim ;)

joel.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Bill Hatcher wchatc...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the example you provided, it would match on 5122.
 51333.. 512323232323. 5132323232 51332322322... etc.  It
 looks to the preceding digit or wild card and will match on any number of
 those digits afterwards.  So if you did 51.+ or 51X+  that would be the same
 as 51T or 51!  depending on if it was IOS or CallManager.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Deepak sidana 
 sidana_dee...@yahoo.comwrote:

   Thanks Bill

 I got something on Route pattern wildcards in CIPT-I book.


 wildcard+



 Matches one or more occurrences of any digit that matches the previous
 wildcard



 Looking for more explanation on this, as its look confusing to me.


 If i create route pattern of 51[23]+



 



 dial 51234, What will be the behaviour?


 Rgds
 Deepak Sidana.


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 *To:* Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com;
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 *Sent:* Thursday, 30 July, 2009 12:46:44 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

 the + is the international escape code.  It is used to represent 001, 011,
 00 depending on what country you live in.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Deepak sidana 
 sidana_dee...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Hi All,



 I was going through the wildcards under Call Routing.



 I have following question.



 What Wildcard “+” means  how it works in route pattern?



 If I have to dial 521234(PSTN) from CUCM, how can I use route pattern
 with “+” wildcard?



 Regards,

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

talking about mistakes... 51! needs min of 3 digits and not 2 unlike what i
told earlier... about 51T i am confident of my previous answer ;).

look this up...it will tiea few loose strings..;)
http://www.ciscosystems.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/6_1_1/ccmsys/a03rp.html#wpxref11697

joel.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

i may be wrong here...

but i think * means 0 or more occurance, ? means zero or one occurance and
+ means 1 or more occurance. In that case... 51.+ will mean u have atleast 4
digits... the first 2 digits are 51 and the 3rd digit can be 0-9..and there
must be one more digit that is . so 0-9... there can be any more
digits..all of them . If this def is right...then 51.+/51XT is not equal to
51! or 51T as in those its 0 or more occurance...hence min required digits
is 2, unlike in former case where it is 4.

i'm still learning...so may be wrong here... dont take this verbatim ;)

joel.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Bill Hatcher wchatc...@gmail.com wrote:

In the example you provided, it would match on 5122.
51333.. 512323232323. 5132323232 51332322322... etc. It
looks to the preceding digit or wild card and will match on any number of
those digits afterwards. So if you did 51.+ or 51X+ that would be the same
as 51T or 51! depending on if it was IOS or CallManager.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Deepak sidana
sidana_dee...@yahoo.comwrote:

Thanks Bill

I got something on Route pattern wildcards in CIPT-I book.

wildcard+

Matches one or more occurrences of any digit that matches the previous
wildcard

Looking for more explanation on this, as its look confusing to me.

If i create route pattern of 51[23]+

dial 51234, What will be the behaviour?

Rgds
Deepak Sidana.

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*To:* Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com;
ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
*Sent:* Thursday, 30 July, 2009 12:46:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

the + is the international escape code. It is used to represent 001,
011, 00 depending on what country you live in.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Hi All,

I was going through the wildcards under Call Routing.

I have following question.

What Wildcard “+” means how it works in route pattern?

If I have to dial 521234(PSTN) from CUCM, how can I use route pattern
with “+” wildcard?

Regards,

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

another blunder... ? i ios means 0 or 1 occurance... ? in cucm means 0 or
more occurance... so ? in cucm == * in ios... and * in cucm = * in ipphone
;)

joel.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 talking about mistakes... 51! needs min of 3 digits and not 2 unlike what i
 told earlier... about 51T i am confident of my previous answer ;).

 look this up...it will tiea few loose strings..;)

 http://www.ciscosystems.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/6_1_1/ccmsys/a03rp.html#wpxref11697

 joel.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i may be wrong here...

 but i think * means 0 or more occurance, ? means zero or one occurance and
 + means 1 or more occurance. In that case... 51.+ will mean u have atleast 4
 digits... the first 2 digits are 51 and the 3rd digit can be 0-9..and there
 must be one more digit that is . so 0-9... there can be any more
 digits..all of them . If this def is right...then 51.+/51XT is not equal to
 51! or 51T as in those its 0 or more occurance...hence min required digits
 is 2, unlike in former case where it is 4.


 i'm still learning...so may be wrong here... dont take this verbatim ;)

 joel.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Bill Hatcher wchatc...@gmail.comwrote:

 In the example you provided, it would match on 5122.
 51333.. 512323232323. 5132323232 51332322322... etc.  It
 looks to the preceding digit or wild card and will match on any number of
 those digits afterwards.  So if you did 51.+ or 51X+  that would be the same
 as 51T or 51!  depending on if it was IOS or CallManager.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Thanks Bill

 I got something on Route pattern wildcards in CIPT-I book.


 wildcard+



 Matches one or more occurrences of any digit that matches the previous
 wildcard



 Looking for more explanation on this, as its look confusing to me.


 If i create route pattern of 51[23]+



 



 dial 51234, What will be the behaviour?


 Rgds
 Deepak Sidana.


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 *To:* Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com;
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, 30 July, 2009 12:46:44 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

 the + is the international escape code.  It is used to represent 001,
 011, 00 depending on what country you live in.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Deepak sidana 
 sidana_dee...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Hi All,



 I was going through the wildcards under Call Routing.



 I have following question.



 What Wildcard “+” means  how it works in route pattern?



 If I have to dial 521234(PSTN) from CUCM, how can I use route pattern
 with “+” wildcard?



 Regards,

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] some silly misc questions about meetme, intercom, barge and lab2a vol1

2009-07-29 Thread Joel Jose

hy ppl,
meet-me just has that one config page with partition,meetme number and
description right??...am i missing something?? i never get it to work..

the intercom is very much depended on the phone type right?? i have cipc and
the intercom options(in the admin pages) are shown but no intercom line
appears on the phone and it doesnt work at all..

barge is a feature of the phone right?? imean it depends on only
built-in-bridge right?? it doesnt need cfb of the cucm right?? i get this
error on the 7960 conference bridge not available when i try to barge. i
had got it to work in the past on another phone and cucm.. i think i am
experiecing some hardware problem(with phone's bridge)

in lab2a of vol1 the phone's are updated using BAT... i normally do it on
with the normal device-phone... what is the preferred method in lab?? lab
only has a few phones rite(i believe)??

thats all i can think of to ask now.. really exhausted... so many small
small config for the features...its getting a pain..blaaah.. ;)


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Test to all OSL Mailing Lists

2009-07-15 Thread Joel Jose

yup got it

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Jeffrey Hall layer8...@gmail.com wrote:

 Got it...thanks!

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Mark Snow ms...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 OSL Voice, RS, Security, and SP constituents,
 As many of you now know, some changes were made Friday night (without
 being tested) that caused mail service to be interrupted over the 
 weekend.Those responsible (not me - I just got the privilege of having to 
 FIX it :)
 have been drug into a back alley and promptly dispatched of.

 Anyway - big test message to see if mail is processing correctly. If you
 do get this message, REPLY TO ALL - that way all of the messages float
 through the OSL mail server and we can confirm in a larger way that mail is
 back up properly.


 Thanks!

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] clone vs snapshot vs any better method??

2009-07-15 Thread Joel Jose

its 7.0. I think like Michael said.. i may need to do it in pairs.. may be i
cant back it up individually and restore individually... the dbreplication
repair all was talking like ages!!.. so i quit that..
joel.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Tim Smith thsglo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried using BARS or DRS? Again not sure on your CCM version.

 Cheers,

 Tim.

 On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i am so sick and tired with this... the main problem for which i thot
 vmware had a solution is still stinking me... how do i do a proper backup
 and restore?? i mena i have pub and sub... my pub had a db connectivity
 error(due to an abrupt power failure)...sub was fine... i had already cloned
 all my vmwares into another backupdir.. so i copied the pub clone and thot i
 was done... first of all.. the db wipes clean.. yeah..yeah..obviously.. but
 now i cant even find the sub as an available node for my cucm-group..
 however all sub configurations can be changed and is reflected on the pub
 gui itself... yes i have cross checked the serviceablity for both nodes and
 thats fine
 my backup strat is pretty boring i know.. i still havent figured what the
 snapshots do... if anyone can suggest a better way to backup my servers it
 would be great.. my head is spinning on the thoughts of a cucm reinstall
 from dvd... even a quadcore q9550 with 8gb ram has its limits on sluggish
 algorithms(redhat-cisco-installation-scripts) u see ;( .

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] clone vs snapshot vs any better method??

2009-07-14 Thread Joel Jose

i am so sick and tired with this... the main problem for which i thot vmware
had a solution is still stinking me... how do i do a proper backup and
restore?? i mena i have pub and sub... my pub had a db connectivity
error(due to an abrupt power failure)...sub was fine... i had already cloned
all my vmwares into another backupdir.. so i copied the pub clone and thot i
was done... first of all.. the db wipes clean.. yeah..yeah..obviously.. but
now i cant even find the sub as an available node for my cucm-group..
however all sub configurations can be changed and is reflected on the pub
gui itself... yes i have cross checked the serviceablity for both nodes and
thats fine
my backup strat is pretty boring i know.. i still havent figured what the
snapshots do... if anyone can suggest a better way to backup my servers it
would be great.. my head is spinning on the thoughts of a cucm reinstall
from dvd... even a quadcore q9550 with 8gb ram has its limits on sluggish
algorithms(redhat-cisco-installation-scripts) u see ;( .

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] autoregistered phone... acting like zombie!!

2009-07-14 Thread Joel Jose

i triedn changing DN number.. but in one of the phones(cipc) its not
changing... i then deleted the entry from pub..and still the phone does not
unregister or even change DN.. i checked the device-phone and there is no
phone with that mac...but still the phone is there perfectly registered...
and able to call..etc.. i have had this issue once..and i dont remmeber how
i solved it... may be i resinstalled from scratch.. i dont remember... why
doesnt cisco have a clean SQL db implementation??... uhhh... i am from
India...if this is the kinda quality our outsourcing companies are giving...
then i have good news for my american brothers!! ;).. LOL... somewhere
something is broken... or may be i am just dreaming...
joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly doubt regarding lab2A

2009-07-04 Thread Joel Jose

thanks bill,
so i suppose only the SUB server needs to be configured for
autoregisteration right?? or is there redundancy possible even in this
department??(i know for sure that there an be only 1 cucm group in a cluster
with autoreg enabled.. but within that cucm group can all servers have
autoreg enabled(for redundancy)??)

joel.

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Bill Talley bill.tal...@aos5.com wrote:

  Once you’ve identified the phones (mac address/switchport/whatever), shut
 them down using your preferred method.   Configure the auto-register
 parameters for HQ and bring those phones up in the correct order to ensure
 the proper extensions are assigned in the correct order.   Once those are
 up, change the auto-register parameters to match B1 requirements, then bring
 those phones online in the correct order.  Make sure the phone has obtained
 a DN in UCM before bringing up the next phones  as they could register out
 of order.



 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Jose
 *Sent:* Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:06 AM
 *To:* Vik Malhi; Mark Snow; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly doubt regarding lab2A



 inorder to have HQ phones and B1phones autoregister.. how do we go about
 it?? i mean they have diff DN ranges right...so got a little confusing... in
 the PG the screenshots solving this are causing me to be confused... both
 pub and sub will have the same autoregister DN range?? and can more than 1
 server have autoregistration enabled in the same cluster? how does in  the
 subsequent screenshot the BR1 phone gets DN of 1000 range automagically??



 thanks for your time,

 joel.


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] anyone who is close to GMT+5:30 ??

2009-06-28 Thread Joel Jose

hy,
okay check my blog http://bravingallodds.blogspot.com . thats where u can
get my updates. Amp also has one www.cciequest.com.

dont have fun along with studies.., rather have fun studying ;)

joel.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Arun Kumar arunv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm from Mumbai India and I'm also preparing for my lab exam lets discuss
 may be we can help each other.

 Cheers
 Arun


 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Amp amccar...@cciequest.com wrote:

 Joel,
 Where exactly do you live and what times do you plan on studying?

 Amp







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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] The most talented people in the world

2009-06-28 Thread Joel Jose

Dont spam this list. retard.

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 Network Engineers

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 At the very minmum we all need to be paid our base hourly rate past 40
 hour per week

 So if you make 100k and work 500 hour overtime your bonus should be 25,000

 2000 hours per year is average right.  Its time to stop the Abuse

 Do the math.  If your going to get a pension in 20 your already taken care
 of.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS - Max-reserved-bandwidth needed? Not needed

2009-06-21 Thread Joel Jose

okay,

i have always had this doubt.. but i thought the QOS book cleared it for
me.. but just to ask... the main routing protocols are i believe serviced by
a inbuild..mechanism in thr cisco routers.. called some PAK_priority or
something..so the normal routing rpotocols dont

On 6/21/09, Michael Ciarfello mciarfe...@iplogic.com wrote:

I think the only time you need to fool with max-reserved is when the
circuit (or CIR on the circuit) is extremly small and you can't fit your one
call on it. Say a g711 call on a 128k CIR frame-relay circuit. Ok, the
math didn't work out. Or when your circuit is very large, say 45mb and 11Mb
(25% of 45Mb) is PLENTY for your routing protocols and other router stuff.
--
*From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Joel Jose [
joeljose...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:34 PM
*To:* CCIE OSL
*Cc:* OSL Group
*Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS - Max-reserved-bandwidth needed? Not
needed

i believe the queueing settings if configured properly will take
precedence over shaping. shaping dictates how much packets will leave the
interface and at what rate...queuing determines which of the queues will
leave first and beyond the queue bandwidth the packets will get
tail-dropped.

have a doubt whether both shaping and queuing are usually configured in
the same interface.. i dont think so.

Max-serserved-Bandwidth need not be changed at all.. cisco recommends not
to change it. 75% of the bandwidth is enough for the cbwfq and PQ.. rest 25%
must go to the fair-queue that will be the default class.. u dont need to
specify bandwidth for the default class.. it will get the remaining 25%
automatically.

and your understanding of classification and the various traffic that goes
into each is seriously wrong. please have a look at this link :
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk543/tk759/technologies_white_paper0900aecd80295a9b.pdf

You never put routing and other critical traffic into
class-default..atleast not on purpose!!.

i may be wrong in some.. i am sure other people wil point that out ;)
joel.
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:26 AM, CCIE OSL ccie...@gmail.com wrote:

I think this question has been asked before,
I have searched achieve but did not find the answer yet.
I thought I know this one, but after spending 3 hours into QOS LFI and LLQ
now I am more confused.

So I have 768k to BR2,
I am configuring all shaping command to 95% of bandwidth.
729.6K
However, by default I can only use 75% of actual interface bandwidth.
So, Do I need to change the max-reserved-bandwidth to 95%?? or even 100
since class-default can handle the routing and other layer 2 traffic???
I am thinking , YES, but none of solution for IPExPERT has this command
in.
So I am guessing that when you configure CIR and MINCIR, this will take
presence over current max-reserved-bandwidth of 75%
Can someone help??
Thanks...

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS - Max-reserved-bandwidth needed? Not needed

2009-06-21 Thread Joel Jose

okay,
i have always had this doubt.. but i thought the QOS book cleared it for
me.. but just to ask... the main routing protocols are i believe serviced by
a inbuild..mechanism in the cisco routers.. called some PAK_priority or
something..so the normal routing potocols dont get serviced by our normal
QOS approach right??.. i believ the 6 and 7 cos/ipp are for experimental
protocols...

joel.

On 6/21/09, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

okay,

On 6/21/09, Michael Ciarfello mciarfe...@iplogic.com wrote:

have a doubt whether both shaping and queuing are usually configured in
the same interface.. i dont think so.

You never put routing and other critical traffic into
class-default..atleast not on purpose!!.

i may be wrong in some.. i am sure other people wil point that out ;)
joel.
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:26 AM, CCIE OSL ccie...@gmail.com wrote:

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS - Max-reserved-bandwidth needed? Not needed

2009-06-20 Thread Joel Jose

i believe the queueing settings if configured properly will take precedence
over shaping. shaping dictates how much packets will leave the interface and
at what rate...queuing determines which of the queues will leave first and
beyond the queue bandwidth the packets will get tail-dropped.
have a doubt whether both shaping and queuing are usually configured in the
same interface.. i dont think so.

Max-serserved-Bandwidth need not be changed at all.. cisco recommends not to
change it. 75% of the bandwidth is enough for the cbwfq and PQ.. rest 25%
must go to the fair-queue that will be the default class.. u dont need to
specify bandwidth for the default class.. it will get the remaining 25%
automatically.

You never put routing and other critical traffic into class-default..atleast
not on purpose!!.

i may be wrong in some.. i am sure other people wil point that out ;)
joel.
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:26 AM, CCIE OSL ccie...@gmail.com wrote:

So I have 768k to BR2,
I am configuring all shaping command to 95% of bandwidth.
729.6K
However, by default I can only use 75% of actual interface bandwidth.
So, Do I need to change the max-reserved-bandwidth to 95%?? or even 100
since class-default can handle the routing and other layer 2 traffic???
I am thinking , YES, but none of solution for IPExPERT has this command in.
So I am guessing that when you configure CIR and MINCIR, this will take
presence over current max-reserved-bandwidth of 75%
Can someone help??
Thanks...

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] check this out...

2009-06-17 Thread Joel Jose

http://www.applied-concepts.net/CUCMS-Overview-Module1/launcher.html#

http://www.applied-concepts.net/CUCMS-Overview-Module1/launcher.html#just
got it in my twitter from cisco UC. i havent used these tools at all...
would they be available for the lab? if they are..i assume they could make
troubleshooting easier.

joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Written Study Materials

2009-06-17 Thread Joel Jose

i would recommend u to have a look at this entry..it sure helped me pass
written as well gain a solid understanding and confidence in my workplace.
It wont be easy..but well worth it... i had  aserious problem of being
sleepy while just doing passive reading..so be prepared to read notes and
also follow this 2nd link for that :
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/24374
http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2009/03/22/how-to-study/


hope to see u soon with a ccie# ;)

joel.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Tanner Ezell tanner.ez...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you for your response Michael!
 I plan on (trying) to get the books listed on the ccie booklist by Cisco
 (though they get spendy quickly!), are there any specific books you'd
 recommend starting with? Also, when you mention theory, can you be more
 specific?

 Thanks again!


 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Michael Ciarfello mciarfe...@iplogic.com
  wrote:

  Hi there and welcome,

 I would say read everything you can cover to cover.  SRND's, QoS guides,
 SRST guides, etc, etc, etc.
 Note that there is now an Open Ended Question section on the lab (see post
 from yesterday)  So you have to read theory now or later.  Would probably
 make your Written exam easier to read it now.

 Expereince also helps with the passing the written.  Don't have to cram
 too much in there if your expereince level makes you answer questions that
 roll off your tongue without thinking because you did this and that
 1,000 times.  Like riding a bike.  Expereince can't cover everything, but
 less to cram and try to remember when you have more roll off the tongue's.

  --
 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Tanner Ezell [
 tanner.ez...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:12 PM
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Written Study Materials

  Hey all,
  I've [all but] recently decided to move ahead in pursuit of the CCIE
 Voice, and upon looking over the written exam, I can't help but wonder what
 resources those of you who have taken it have used to study? I've only found
 one product out there aimed at the written by ccbootcamp, does anyone have
 experience with that? I'd greatly appreciate it, for the labs I'm looking at
 getting the blended learning solution by IPexpert which I think will be of
 great value, but the written leaves me a little mystified!

  Thanks,
 Tanner Ezell





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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] how to practise the troubleshooting lab in workbook(second best method?)

2009-06-15 Thread Joel Jose

hy,
I find trying to implement the troubleshooting lab in my partial homelab
very unachievable.. if anyof u had luck trying it.. without the actual
spec.. lemme know.. i think it can be done.. u'll just have to rewrite the
config files from scratch to represent the homelab... ofcourse that means
ommiting some and adding some ;).. and on the better side that would also
mean ur doing active learning..and not just sleep off..haa just joking..
obviously none sleeps in front of a proctor session..haa

i plan to do all my troubleshooting labs a.k.a lab B after i complete the
whole lab A scenarios.. i hope thats a step forward and not backward..

i wonder if proctor labs are going to release the sessions in a smaller
format.. esp when u consider that troubleshooting labs would definitely help
with proctorlabs as the best method ;).


joel.


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab1A, DHCP server has excess config in PG?

2009-06-14 Thread Joel Jose

just looked up the help-this page.. i calculated and found that its the
75% of lease time as mentioned in there.. So i assume that every time we
change the lease value from the default..we need to manually calculate the
T2 timing and enter it there.
joel.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 May be i had an overlook somewhere.. just wanted to ask , why has the T2
 re-binding time been configured in the dhcp server section? and what is that
 value?.  I couldn't find it as part of the requirement.



 joel.
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab1A, DHCP server has excess config in PG?

2009-06-14 Thread Joel Jose

May be i had an overlook somewhere.. just wanted to ask , why has the T2
re-binding time been configured in the dhcp server section? and what is that
value?.  I couldn't find it as part of the requirement.



joel.
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] doubts over credibility of info in qos cisco press self study

2009-06-12 Thread Joel Jose

hy,
i was reading through qos self study from cisco press.. can anyone verify if
the CDT and hold-queue limit explained about the fair queue is correctly
given in there? i have lately been getting a lot of contradictory
informations from various sources.

thanks,
joel.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Have I been banned?

2009-06-12 Thread Joel Jose

people who r serious enough to cheat..will cheat..inspite of any measure
anyone takes if someone posts asking to solve a lab question..he would
have done so in a clever manner..if he was ever expecting any serious
answer... its the others who are bend on distracting..who
keep bragging about oh this is my lab question please help!!... well... so
moderation or filtering for that matter wont be much helpful IMHO. a better
alternative may be  to create more awareness on why people must not try to
cheat and ...thank them for not discussing cheats in the forum..
joel.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Michael Ciarfello
mciarfe...@iplogic.comwrote:

 I volunteer to be a moderator.  Lol lol lol.

 Problem is, these people (so far) have come in done their damage and
 don't care what the consequences are. The message has been delivered.  But
 moderation is still needed for posting I had this question on my lab,
 please help which I have seen over on a competitors's web site and there
 seems to have no moderation.


 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Mark Snow
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:45 PM
 To: CCIE Voice Maillist
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Have I been banned?

 Hey Jeff,

 No - users won't be banned. And in fact I took out the keywords
 because it was already causing too much of a problem.
 I guess I will just have to keep policing these spammers one at a
 time  sigh.

 I was really only doing it to benefit the rest of the list, but it
 causes more of a pain.
 So while the cheat websites will still be filtered (read: emails with
 the names of those websites won't be allowed through to the rest of
 the list), the other words I mentioned won't cause messages to be
 banned any longer.

 Sorry for the headache :)

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I replied to your note earlier to get clarification and since
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I just tried to send a test message to the list and I got a
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Did I get myself banned for trying to clarify your earlier
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] database communication error in sub

2009-06-12 Thread Joel Jose

when i try to log into the sub through gui i get the db communication error.
also i cannot access any sub features from pub gui.. i get this error.. when
i try to take service activation of sub from within pub gui... : Connection
to the Server cannot be established (Unable to access Remote Node)
i tried dbreplication from sub cli..but it says error that that db of sub is
not yet up...i donno what to do about it...

if ther is no other way i will reinstall sub.. but before that i just thot
of posting here...

joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUCM 7 - Database communication error afterchanging IP address

2009-06-07 Thread Joel Jose

uuh, u needed to first change ip from under the server subsection of
the system section. ie, first change the ip that in the database.. then
change the ip from the linux cli. i assume even the cli says(warns) so when
u try to do it.
incase that part is right... then i guess someone more experienced will help
the solution...

joel.

2009/6/7 Dave Wong wchi...@hotmail.com

  Hi Azeem
 Yes i do have a PUB and a SUB. I've changed the IP on the PUB first...,
 rebooted it and still getting the database communication error when
 attempting to log in.

 Hi Brian
 Thanks for posting the link for changing IP addresses on CM5.X and CM6.X,
 I'll try out the steps listed there

 regards, Dave



  From: bkvalent...@gmail.com
  To: azeemo...@gmail.com; wchi...@hotmail.com
  CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUCM 7 - Database communication error
 afterchanging IP address
  Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:43:53 -0400

 
  Changing the IP Address is a bit more complicated than that.
 
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/install/6_1_2/ipchange/ipchg612.html
 
  Brian
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Azeem ahamed azeemo...@gmail.com
  To: Dave Wong wchi...@hotmail.com
  Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUCM 7 - Database communication error
  afterchanging IP address
 
 
   Try restarting the the server. also restart thr Call manager Server.
  
   did u have a PUB and SUB running ? if yes which one did u change first
 ?
  
   2009/6/7 Dave Wong wchi...@hotmail.com:
   Hi all
   I have CUCM 7 running on VMWare and I've changed it's IP address using

   set
   network ip eth0 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0. I've also changed its default
   gateway accordingly using set network gateway. After this when i
 launch
   a
   browser to https://10.1.1.1/ccmadmin and attempt to log in, i get
   database
   communication error message. What is the reason for this and what can
 i
   do
   to resolve this?
  
   regards, Dave
  
   
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] can do without pstn cloud in home lab?

2009-05-24 Thread Joel Jose

hy,

will i miss out on any imp feature if i use just 2 physical routers for
t1/e1?.. i mean br1 and br2 will have straight t1/e1 to each other without a
psnt cloud. and when i use HQ. i will detach one of them and load HQ config
on it.. yeah its time consuming... but pretty economical.. if i dont loose
out on much configs... i was thinking of doing that... the rest of my lab
will be in GNS3 and vmware... at a single point of time i assume i will be
only making a 2 site call...



joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] first pass, multiple attempts, the eternal optimist... what is the differentiator?

2009-04-20 Thread Joel Jose

when i am done with  my first attempt.. i will post a better reply to this
thread ;).. so matter dont consider it closed.. haaa


joel.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Darren T. Manners dmann...@me.vccs.eduwrote:

 If it was only that easy.It really depends on the day...And im not
 saying to pass it you have to be lucky...but to pass it you really do
 have to immerse yourself in it and have things go your way that
 morningI felt like a cisco borg after my security ie..slowly I got
 back to my lifeIm on my second attempt for voice, and of course the
 content has changed...but I look at it like now were learning the latest
 and greatest stuffmuch more interesting...I think you really have to
 enjoy the journey...the exam is just a milestone in it. My wife was so
 happy that im doing my second ieI also find it strange that my two
 daughters aren't interested in call manager express and prefer to watch
 twilight or Hannah Montana...but then that's just memy problem was
 just timing on the second...i scored high (really high 80-100% on the
 sections I didbut then I ran out of time...
 You can know it inside outbut you have to know it with speed...
 That's just my two pennies worth

 Darren

 Information Security Officer
 Mountain Empire Community College
 CCIE (SEC) # 18929, CISSP (#85782), CCSP, GIAC GCIA (#0849) GCIH (#1348)
 GCWN (#0467) CCVP, MCSE, ASE HP, CCA

 Tel: 276 523 2400 ext 226

 Email: dmann...@me.vccs.edu
 www.mecc.edu


 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Joel Jose
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:19 AM
 To: James Key; pushkarbhatk...@gmail.com; Cliff McGlamry;
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] first pass, multiple attempts,the eternal
 optimist... what is the differentiator?


 1) most people who get multiple attempts.. needed that despite being
 thorough with the leading materials

 2) most people who pass within reasonable attempts always knew most of
 the stuff all along

 3) people who pass the first time are just damn lucky.. and also all the
 above.

 4)people who take multple attempts.. needed that because of some flaw in
 thier exam taking strategy

 5)eternal optimist..?? i have no clue.. but yeah.. someone who has a lot
 of spare money..or is a FTE of cisco(3 free attempts.. and then the game
 begins.. ;) )


 i may be so off the senses here.. but i am sure u wil exuse me.. the
 junior ccie in the making ;)


 please contribute your feeds to make this a little more
 sensible(digestible)..


 The main reason i opted for the jouney is for getting a level playing
 ground to display and be appreciated/evaluated for my skills.. college
 doesnt do things the fair way always(i have a BS degree in CS).. but.. i
 like the concept of ccie... and its better than the gmat/gre style that
 doesnt test me on what i like... or even what i vaguely like...


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...

wel..,

i am now pondering about the connector options... i need to buy one from
online/local store... and fast... the objective is to connect a 3500xl with
3750.. using the fiber connectors...

i have narrowed my choice into *Cisco LC To SC Multimode SX Fiber Cable, 10
M, CSS5-CABSX-LCSC
http://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-multimode-fiber-cable-css5cabsxlcsc-p-2634.html
and
Cisco LC-SC Singlemode Duplex Fiber Patch Cable, 5M*

i donno the diff between them... but i think i must choose... the first
one(its more expensive)... i really dont know

joel.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

well.., i am thinking of a pretty bad workaroundi dont wanna buy the
sfp trancievers... so i will use the 3500xl poe.. layer2 switch along with
the 3750.. i can use trunking and i need only to connect the devices to
3500xl... like the access layer and distribution layer... i know i am just
wasting electricity and even its a bad design but for the labs.. and
studying. i thinks thats ok... the 3560's(have about 4 of them).. are in
very high demand at work...so i cant get them out of thier assignments.. but
a couple of 3750..noone actually cares...its lying in dust..;(..
.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Cliff McGlamry cl...@mcglamry.netwrote:

Hey Joel,

The biggest difference between the 3750 and the 3560 is that the 3750 is
stackable where the 3500 series is not. I don't believe any of the things
involved with stacking and synchronizing the stack would be part of the
voice test, and believe you'd be fine using either one.

I'm not the official word, but having worked with both, that's my thought.

Cliff

- Original Message -
*From:* Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com
*To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
*Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...

hy all,

http://htluo.blogspot.com/2009/03/ccie-voice-lab-v3.html?showComment=123777408#c1837891742753148075

looks pretty interesting.. and i am actively pursuing that now i hadnt
noticed that 3750 and 3560 are similar in ios syntaxes... so in that case..
i guess.. i just have to use the 3560 then

joel.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

i'm trying to make a decent lab..., i have an unused 3750 at work.. but
it has sfp-LH-sfm modules... buying Cat5 compatible modules are gonna be
expensive... i just got another idea... i also have a 3560 unused... so i a
thinking of truning between them using the existing SFP GBIC on them... and
then connecting my whole lab onto the 3560... i still havent made the plan
completely... but am in the process so any helps would be
appreciated

now... i believe the POE configs on all the devices and the Etherswitch
modules are a piece of cake.. and i dont have to practise..it... may be
just a few proctorlabs would be enough for it...(if at all)... I wonder
what the etherswitch configs would be like... gues it follows the mqcli of
ios...? hope the lack of it in my lab wont prove costly..

and lastly... i plan on using only softphones. i will be mainly
following the topology of proctorlabs.. so that when i purchase the bls it
will be easier...i hope.. for most part softphones are no dif from the
hardphones..(except that they dont have some realy stupid issues with the
headphone and speakerphone buttons.. like some 7960s in my lab..grrr )

one more thing... i really am getting annoyed nowadays with the slow
speed of the cucm vmwares... even a 2/3 second waiting when the loading is
displayed is really adding up and wasting a good portion of my time... when
i am wanting to do a quick checkup of all the configs.. its a real pain... i
wish they had a show run... ghaaush... the way out.. is a good highend
server.. i will think about the configs for runing all the 5 vmwares + 9
ipphones in a common server

i plan to get a 3725 for cue+cme... and for the rest br1 and br2 i plan
to use 3640s...

any help in the way of ideas would be greatly appreciated...

joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

thats right... mostly a codec/regions problemm

 but just as an additional measure.. just check if u have connectivity
between the 2 ip phones... i mean that the iphone in one site must be able
to connect with other site ipphone using direct ip addresses u have a
separate reachable link..or a default gateway configured on the ip
phones(dhcp) right?? when a problem associated with this happens u usually
get dead air...;)

joel.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 If you are getting ring through when you place the call, then your GK
 config is probably OK. If its ringing that tells me the GK sent the call to
 the UCM.

 The fact that it goes fast busy when you pick up sounds like a codec/media
 problem to me. Check the media resources config and your regions.

 Chris

 ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working through scenario , trying to get 4 digit dial from BR2 to HQ
 working via the HQ GK.
 The GK config looks like this.

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCM ipexpert.com http://ipexpert.com 142.1.1.1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 10 Trunk_2
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 9 Trunk_1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 0 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 10 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 0 Trunk_2 Trunk_1
  gw-type-prefix 1#* gw ipaddr 142.2.64.12 1720 gw ipaddr 142.2.64.11 1720
  no shutdown

 I have the UCM registering without a tech-prefix defined and I've adjusted
 the service parameter to insure the UCM listens on port 1720.

 The problem is the call rings through to the HQ DN but comes up fast busy
 when I answer the call.

 I've attempted to configure the Trunk from UCM as both an H.225 Trunk as
 well as an ICT trunk.
 I've unchecked Wait for far end h.245 terminal capability as well.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.







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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

well... the mtp option was by default disabled... never thought u might
have enabled it... mostly a busyout after ringing.. occurs as a codec
problem ;)...a rule of thumb i guess..

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:58 PM, ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep, everything started working once I checked off requires MTP on the
 trunk. .

 But why? The call is coming in as g.729 and the device pool the trunk is in
 is set to g.729





 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 If you are getting ring through when you place the call, then your GK
 config is probably OK. If its ringing that tells me the GK sent the call to
 the UCM.

 The fact that it goes fast busy when you pick up sounds like a codec/media
 problem to me. Check the media resources config and your regions.

 Chris

 ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working through scenario , trying to get 4 digit dial from BR2 to HQ
 working via the HQ GK.
 The GK config looks like this.

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCM ipexpert.com http://ipexpert.com 142.1.1.1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 10 Trunk_2
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 9 Trunk_1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 0 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 10 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 0 Trunk_2 Trunk_1
  gw-type-prefix 1#* gw ipaddr 142.2.64.12 1720 gw ipaddr 142.2.64.11 1720
  no shutdown

 I have the UCM registering without a tech-prefix defined and I've
 adjusted the service parameter to insure the UCM listens on port 1720.

 The problem is the call rings through to the HQ DN but comes up fast busy
 when I answer the call.

 I've attempted to configure the Trunk from UCM as both an H.225 Trunk
 as well as an ICT trunk.
 I've unchecked Wait for far end h.245 terminal capability as well.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.








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it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

no way... he must have meant that.. he off ed it.. and then it worked...
the first case..the signaling went through..but the media must have
terminated at the gateways...

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 Does the call complete as 729 withthe mtp checked?

 --
 From: ccielab...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

 Yep, everything started working once I checked off requires MTP on the
 trunk. .

 But why? The call is coming in as g.729 and the device pool the trunk is in
 is set to g.729





 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 If you are getting ring through when you place the call, then your GK
 config is probably OK. If its ringing that tells me the GK sent the call to
 the UCM.

 The fact that it goes fast busy when you pick up sounds like a codec/media
 problem to me. Check the media resources config and your regions.

 Chris

 ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working through scenario , trying to get 4 digit dial from BR2 to HQ
 working via the HQ GK.
 The GK config looks like this.

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCM ipexpert.com http://ipexpert.com 142.1.1.1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 10 Trunk_2
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 9 Trunk_1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 0 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 10 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 0 Trunk_2 Trunk_1
  gw-type-prefix 1#* gw ipaddr 142.2.64.12 1720 gw ipaddr 142.2.64.11 1720
  no shutdown

 I have the UCM registering without a tech-prefix defined and I've
 adjusted the service parameter to insure the UCM listens on port 1720.

 The problem is the call rings through to the HQ DN but comes up fast busy
 when I answer the call.

 I've attempted to configure the Trunk from UCM as both an H.225 Trunk
 as well as an ICT trunk.
 I've unchecked Wait for far end h.245 terminal capability as well.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.








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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

ohh.. i take that back, so CCIELabRat... what was it??.. u had the mtp
on ? or off??.. very curious now to see how it worked..

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 no way... he must have meant that.. he off ed it.. and then it worked...
 the first case..the signaling went through..but the media must have
 terminated at the gateways...


 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 Does the call complete as 729 withthe mtp checked?

 --
 From: ccielab...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

 Yep, everything started working once I checked off requires MTP on the
 trunk. .

 But why? The call is coming in as g.729 and the device pool the trunk is
 in is set to g.729





 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.uswrote:

 If you are getting ring through when you place the call, then your GK
 config is probably OK. If its ringing that tells me the GK sent the call to
 the UCM.

 The fact that it goes fast busy when you pick up sounds like a
 codec/media problem to me. Check the media resources config and your
 regions.

 Chris

 ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working through scenario , trying to get 4 digit dial from BR2 to HQ
 working via the HQ GK.
 The GK config looks like this.

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCM ipexpert.com http://ipexpert.com 142.1.1.1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 10 Trunk_2
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 9 Trunk_1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 0 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 10 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 0 Trunk_2 Trunk_1
  gw-type-prefix 1#* gw ipaddr 142.2.64.12 1720 gw ipaddr 142.2.64.11
 1720
  no shutdown

 I have the UCM registering without a tech-prefix defined and I've
 adjusted the service parameter to insure the UCM listens on port 1720.

 The problem is the call rings through to the HQ DN but comes up fast
 busy when I answer the call.

 I've attempted to configure the Trunk from UCM as both an H.225 Trunk
 as well as an ICT trunk.
 I've unchecked Wait for far end h.245 terminal capability as well.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.








 --
 it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
 Abraham Lincoln




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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...