[OSL | CCIE_Voice] 7965 Phones

2013-11-20 Thread Joel Murphy
Hello All:

Just a feeler post to see if anyone has any 7965 phones they'd like to let
go of at a reasonable price.  Looking for a total of 5 of them.

Thank you in Advance!

JM
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Ringlist setup

2013-05-22 Thread Joel
Hi Drake,

 

I believe you also need to edit and upload DistinctiveRing.xml for the
line level rings.

 

Joel P

 

Always stand on principle, even if you stand alone

Adversity introduces us to ourselves

There are two kinds of men who walk the earth... Men of Action, and then
all the others

si vis pacem, para bellum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum 

 

 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Drake J
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:25 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Ringlist setup

 

hi Guys,

How do we set the following ringlist at phone level and line level

Phone level:
 

1) Chirp 1

2) Chirp 2

3) Cisco Techno

4) Classic Ring 1

Line level(2001):
== 

1) Cisco Techno
2) Classic Ring 1



Here is the Ringlist.xml I have created...

- CiscoIPPhoneRingList

- Ring

  DisplayNameCisco Techno/DisplayName 

  FileNameCiscoTechno.raw/FileName 

  /Ring

- Ring

  DisplayNameClassic Ring 1/DisplayName 

  FileNameClassic1.raw/FileName 

  /Ring

  /CiscoIPPhoneRingList

 

I get the correct ringlist order at phone level...

Phone level:
 

1) Chirp 1
2) Chirp 2
3) Cisco Techno
4) Classic Ring 1

However at line level see the following...
=  

line level ( 2001 - Chirp 1)
==  

Ring 1

Ring 2

Ring 3

Ring 4

Ring 5

Ring 6

Ring 7



How do I correct the list at the line level?



Regards,

Drake

 

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] [OSL | CCIE_VOICE] Location Based Call Admission Control

2013-01-30 Thread Joel
Thanks for that explanation Justin. Makes it a bit simpler to understand.

 

Joel P

 

 

 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Justin Carney
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:11 AM
To: Suresh Bhandari
Cc: CCIE Study; ie ravindra
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] [OSL | CCIE_VOICE] Location Based Call
Admission Control

 

One more comment on CAC, but for the real world not for the lab...

 

Locations CAC is quick and easy to setup, you don't touch the routers at
all.  The downside is it is really designed for a hub and spoke topology and
it does not account for multiple circuits.

 

RSVP on the other hand is path-aware, meaning you can have redundant
circuits with different bandwidths.  If you have a primary WAN with an rsvp
bandwidth 1000 and a backup link (cable, DSL, etc) with an rsvp bandwidth
100 then the specific routers in the path of the call setup will be used to
either admit the call or reroute via AAR.  During normal conditions you can
admit a lot of calls, but during failover where only backup circuit is
active you can only admit a few calls.

 

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Justin Carney justin.s.car...@gmail.com
mailto:justin.s.car...@gmail.com  wrote:

The two types of CAC are locations-based and RSVP-based.  On CUCM they both
have a configuration set on the location page, which may seem confusing at
first.  The key words to watch for in the scenario will be once bw is
exceeded reroute call over PSTN means you need AAR, which could be either
locations or RSVP.  It they explicitly say use RSVP or if they say once bw
is exceeded the call should proceed over WAN but get remarked down to [given
DSCP] then this means you need to use RSVP.

 

When using RSVP, do not put a bandwidth on the location page in CUCM!

 

Locations-based CAC setup:

-configure the location page with the bandwidth for the requested number of
calls (24*Number of calls, do not add 16K for call setup)

-that's it!  CUCM will keep track of how many calls are going in/out of each
location

 

RSVP-based CAC setup:

-first, you still go to the location page in CUCM, but DO NOT PUT A
BANDWIDTH on the location

-in the lower section of the locations page, select another location, use
the reservation drop down box:

  - mandatory (video required) - not relevant for the lab, CUCM will try to
setup audio and video and call will fail if not enough bw (then AAR will
kick in if configured) - this *should* work the same as the next option
since we're not using video phones, but I would suggest using the next
option instead

  - mandatory (video desired) - use this option if you want out-of-bandwidth
to reroute over PSTN (using AAR)

  - optional - use this option if you want the call to get remarked to a
best-effort or CS1 and still go over the WAN

  - no reservation - this means RSVP is disabled

 

-once the location is setup to use RSVP, you need to create an MTP for
both sides of the RSVP call.  For example, if using Site A to Site C, create
an MTP for site A, add to MRG/MRGL and assign to site A phones, then create
an MTP for Site C add to MRG/MRGL and assign to site C phones

 

-now on to the routers, you will need to create an MTP on each router.  go
to the documentation site  CUCM  config examples and text notes  ctrl+F
to search for MTP and grab the IOS CLI from here.  modify the sample CLI
in notepad and make sure to add the rsvp command under the dspfarm profile
# mtp.

 

-finally, go to the serial sub-interface and assign the command ip rsvp
bandwidth X.  On this line the bw is 24*Number of calls + 16 (call  setup
for a single call

 

-make sure the IOS MTP is registered in CUCM

 

-when placing a call, use show ip rsvp reservation to watch the RSVP in
progress.  while ringing the output will show 40k, once connected it will
show 24K.

 

 

Hope this helps

-Justin

 

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Suresh Bhandari bring...@gmail.com
mailto:bring...@gmail.com  wrote:

Again it depends on if you are asked to do so.

 

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM, ie ravindra ieravin...@gmail.com
mailto:ieravin...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi All, 

Do we need to enable ip rsvp bandwidth command when we configure location
based CAC. 

Thanks, 

Ravi.

 

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] [MGCP H323 SIP on a same Gatway : Supportability ]

2013-01-24 Thread Joel
Hi Ravi,

 

Yes you can run either H323/Sip on an MGCP GW simultaneously. Hoever if im
not mistaken, once MGCP is in control of a port it cannot be used by
H323/SIP or CME. 

 

Joel Perez

 

Always stand on principle, even if you stand alone

Adversity introduces us to ourselves

There are two kinds of men who walk the earth... Men of Action, and then
all the others

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum si vis pacem,
para bellum

 

 

From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
[mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of ie ravindra
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:04 AM
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] [MGCP H323 SIP on a same Gatway : Supportability
]

 

is it posible to create a H323 or SIP or CME on MGCP enabled gateway. is
there any specific command needs to be placed. 

Thanks, 

Ravi. 

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] callback

2012-06-10 Thread Joel Petralia

I am trying to get the callback feature working but the phones keep displaying 
Callback in not active. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you,
Joel
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] callback

2012-06-10 Thread Joel Petralia

I did try that and still showing not active.

Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 00:38:59 +0100
From: prince_karim...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] callback
To: jrpetra...@msn.com; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com

Ensure that the service parameter Call back enabled Flag is set to true. Then 
restart CCM service.

From: Joel Petralia jrpetra...@msn.com
 To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com 
 Sent: Sunday, 10 June 2012, 23:13
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] callback
   




I am trying to get the callback feature working but the phones keep displaying 
Callback in not active. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Thank you,
Joel
  

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] cme extension mobility help

2012-04-17 Thread Joel Petralia

I have done the cme extension mobility lab and am trying to take what I have 
learned and apply it to a job I have for a customer. If I shouldn't post a 
question like this then please let me know or disregard.


I have a site where two users need to share a phone. They both have a
 phone already and configuration for their phones are below. ephone-dn  27  
dual-line number 5247 secondary 2224 label 5247 description Susan Sulivan name 
Susan Sulivan call-forward busy 45247 call-forward noan 45247 timeout 15 
corlist incoming user900-international!!ephone  27 device-security-mode none 
video mac-address 001F.CA36.23FF username ssulivan password 1234 type 7960 
keep-conference endcall button  
1:27!!ephone-dn  49  dual-line 
number 5293 secondary 2245 label 5293 description Jenna James name Jenna Price 
call-forward busy 45293 call-forward noan 45293 timeout 15 corlist incoming 
user900-international!!ephone  49 device-security-mode none video mac-address 
0021.55D6.77C9 username jjames password 1234 type 7940 keep-conference 
endcall button  1:49!!Under
 the ephone-dn they have a primary and secondary number so my question 
would be, can you build a user-profile with primary and secondary 
numbers? Also, can I configure a logout profile matching the 
configuration of one of the ephones? I believe what they want is ephone 
27 to stay as it is (logout profile I guess) and then build a 
user-profile matching dn 49 and ephone 49 so the user with this profile 
can log in and out of ephone 27.
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] called party xlate on gw question

2011-11-23 Thread Joel Tyson
I have a scenarios where I want to push most if not all of the called party
transformations onto the gateway (HQ).   When I configure a route pattern
on BR1 for TEHO to HQ I see the call hit the  HQ gw but the called party
xforms are not taking place.  HQ works fine.   The called party css is
applied on the GW so shouldn't that affect any call going out thae GW?
The only difference with HQ is the RP is pointing to a standary local RL
opposed to BR1 pointing to a newly created RL.   I can make this work by
adding the manipulations to the new RL but I am curios why this isn't
working.   Thanks for any input.

-Joel
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] calling through GK and CUBE - calling phone keeps ringing

2011-07-27 Thread Joel Tyson
Wait for 245 MTC is unchecked on the GK  trunk setting on CUCM.   When
setting CUBE to use g729 taking the transcoder out of the picture the calls
worked fine.  With xcoding to g711 on cube the originating phone (hq ph1)
continues to ring after picking up BR2 phone.Any help iseatly
appreciated.

Thanks!
Joel
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Self terminating PRI using VRF aware h323. Is it possible

2010-11-18 Thread Joel Tyson
Hello Group,

I am working on getting a home lab setup to practice for the IE voice lab.
I have almost enough equipment to setup all 3 sites with the exception of
the 4 router to either run the PSTN or  Branch site.   I have plenty of DSPs
and MFT voice cards but short 1 router.   I am researching if it is possible
to utilize VRFs to configure a router as Branch site and PSTN by self
terminating a back-to-back PRI.   Just wondering if anyone else has set this
up or researched if it is possible.

Thanks for any input,

Joel
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] No Product, Full refund.. simple logic?? not really??

2009-09-19 Thread Joel Jose
okay,
first of all thanks for the replies. I got mail from TA saying that there
was a form for refund request and i must fax it. I am doing it now. That was
huge relief as i hadnt got any communication from ipexpert even after i
mailed wayne telling about my issues. I have been quite helpful here wrt
ccie studies. This is the first time i ever had to say something like this
about ipexpert. It just freaked me a little.. i dont know about others...
this is my own money..no sponsors for me.

I still think ipexpert workbooks really stand out. I have had looks into
other vendor's materials but i always prefered ipexpert for studying. With
the new blueprint and immense expectations from candidates...I'm sure
ipexpert is overworked here...May be as Wayne said its just a one off
situation that i find myself in. The first time around when class was
cancelled my TA said refunds would not be allowed. Thats why i was little
upset now. But yeah i am sending the form now...so i guess i shouldnt have
any complaints now. Sorry for posting in OSL.. i always looked to OSL for
help on CCIE questions... I know how it feels to get unrellated questions on
a technical forum. I even posted back at those cheat selling cciecert people
asking to stay away from this forum. Sorry again to offend anyone, if at all
i did.

Joel.


On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Wayne Lawson groupst...@ipexpert.comwrote:

 Actually, Jack - incorrect statements made about us are irritating

 Regards,
 Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244
 Founder  President - IPexpert, Inc.
 Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.comwlaw...@ipexpert.com
 Mobile: +1.810.334.1564

 :: Message sent from iPhone.

 On Sep 18, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Jack Ciccerio jack.cicce...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It’s irritating? You mean it’s irritating to Joel that his class has been
 canceled twice, correct?


  --

 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Wayne Lawson
 *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2009 10:06 AM
 *To:* Jason Granat
 *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; Michael Ciarfello

 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] No Product,Full refund.. simple logic??
 not really??



 Guys - I'll deal with this customer directly, but as of this morning there
 was not a refund request. We've never denied one and never will.



  I think it's obvious that we care about our clients and do a great job
 - therefore I'm not even going to take the time to defend or respond to
 these comments.



  We reserve the right to cancel classes per our registration form, and
 honestly - most of our online classes never took off or filled up - students
 prefer to be live with the instructor. I made the call to cancel these 2
 classes and invest the instructor's time in product development due to the
 massive amounts of changes and work we had ahead of us.



  It's unfortunate that this student had a class cancelled twice, but if
 he would have invested in a live class - it would have been delivered (I
 don't think we've cancelled one live class this year). Also, we did notify
 this client in a timely manner as outlined on the registration form that he
 signed.



  This is a support list - so from now on please contact your Training
 Advisor if you have any unresolved issues - or contact me directly. Everyone
 here has my email address -and can see my cell number on my posts /
 signature - making untrue statements and complaining on a study list that I
 pay for and maintain is a bit irritating.


 Regards,



 Wayne A. Lawson II - CCIE #5244

 Founder  President - IPexpert, Inc.

 Mailto: wlaw...@ipexpert.com wlaw...@ipexpert.comwlaw...@ipexpert.com

 Mobile: +1.810.334.1564



 :: Message sent from iPhone.


 On Sep 18, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Jason Granat  j...@slash128.com
 j...@slash128.com wrote:

  You know, I don't agree that this is the right forum either but frankly I
 am a bit perturbed by the majority of responses I have seen.



 I think Joel's underlying point may be missed. Strip away the details about
 his lab date, job, study schedule, etc. He paid for a class which has been
 cancelled more than once and with practically no notice. He simply wants our
 opinion whether or not he is justified in his request for a refund for an
 undelivered product. To answer you Joel I say yes. If the vendor has the
 right to cancel the class why doesn't he have the right to cancel his order,
 especially if they can't give him a delivery timeframe?



 I'm sure we all realize that a boot camp/vclass is not a golden
 ticket/silver bullet. I personally have never taken one, but it must be an
 important enough aspect of preparation for people to pay $1499, and that's
 the discounted price. But also keep in mind that reserving a whole week for
 a class is not exactly an easy task in the life of an implementation
 engineer. Then to have to reschedule it amidst work/project/personal
 schedule is even more difficult. If you

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] No Product, Full refund.. simple logic?? not really??

2009-09-18 Thread Joel Jose
Michael,

quite rightly i am dissapointed. I'm sure its not without reason. For one
second just forget about my lab and my passing the lab etc.. ipexpert is a
company...so if they dont give u the product..then there should be some
measures to refund the customer..not to mention the problems it might have
caused them... how about u order the vod and then u get it 1 year after??
how would you like that??.. what if u didnt have time to wait for one
year..and had to hurry up things...?? what if that product would be
worthless to you unless u get it within a time-frame?
just clearing my doubts... i am not insane here... looks like u have r
blindly supporting ipexpert... i posted it here so that this OSL list and
fellow candidates will correct me if i am being too rude in asking for a
refundi want to know what do others think...and also warn people who may
be in my position later...

joel.


On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Michael Ciarfello
mciarfe...@iplogic.comwrote:

  Yea, so what's your purpose of slandeing IPexpert on here?  Take it up
 with them.  Not us.

 So if there are no December real seats still left, then take your lab, take
 the experiences from the lab into the next class.  Might help you more.  If
 you want to do a v-class afterwards then fine, you're paid for it.  If you
 want to do a regular class, then sign up.  I think you slowing down your
 studies was a mistake, regardless.  Sounds like you were banking on the
 v-class being the golden chalice to your lab preparation and tight
 timelines.  Walking a tightrope, you will eventually fall off.

 Sorry, the CCIE is not college.  Go to class, study and you WILL graduate.
 There is no formula.  Save the vclass for when you have time to study and
 you think you are prepared enough to take it and get the most out of it.

 By the way, how much more money was that new company going to give you for
 CCIE vs non CCIE?  Is that the real influence here?

 To me the one-week lab experience is (was) mostly a guage to see how ready
 I was for the real lab.  There were a couple new tricks, etc I didn't know,
 but the base of the knowledge was there going INTO the class.

  --
 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Joel Jose [
 joeljose...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:29 PM
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] No Product, Full refund.. simple logic?? not
 really??

  I know this is a forum for technical discussion..but i just wanted to let
 everyone know about my displeasure. I want to know what you all(who are
 loyal customers of ipexpert) think about this.
  I had purchased a one-week-lab-experience vclass on march when the
 discount was announced. It cost me 1499$. My lab is scheduled on dec22nd.
 The vclass was to be held on september7-11th. I got a bunch of communication
 from ipexpert. Initially far from the date of the vclass they said it was
 cancelled. Then i had to slow down my studies... but still somehow i wanted
 to give the dec one a decent attempt. When i was about to make alternate
 study arrangements...ipexpert once again mailed me saying that the vclass
 was not cancelled... i almost went about buying another vendors product..
 then i waited anxiously for the vclass and kept my preparation on
 track(slightly below speed though).. i was even assured by wayne that it
 will go on pretty well... it was going to be my first online class so was
 nervous. Ipexpert kept numb about this class even when i had less than one
 month away..that made me feel jittery and made me franatically mail them
 about it... they asked me to stay tuned for the final shipment details and
 vclass. less than a week away i still got nothing... then with a day or two
 left, i got a mail saying your vclass has been cancelled due to shortage of
 enrollment something like that... i was so stressed out... i got an offer
 from a leading company...and i took that up.. it will mean me staying away
 from ccie for a while...but i am planning to take the attempt on dec.. i
 asked wayne for a refund..but i am not sure he is listening...

  I didnt get the product...they cancelled it and wont happen before next
 year... and my lab is on dec.. i now made alternate study arrangements... i
 know ipexpert is top quality..thats why i took confidence in them...thier
 workbooks are still great... but what they lack is transparency they
 didnt even gimme a hint about the cancellation... i mean they just took me
 for granted... this is not an experience i would want to remember..i expect
 a refund..i dont think they are going to give me that i thought ipexpert
 was about a sincere bunch of people..Today i stand corrected.  thats my
 opinion now.. everyone of you am sure have your own.


  joel.



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] got a job..but not voip ;(

2009-09-10 Thread Joel Jose
thank you dec, thank you thomas and thank you nara.
1)my folks paid for my training...i have yet to give them the roi that i
promised but this sudden offer was also to thier surprize and they dont
mind if i have to discontinue...but they do ask me if i can do both
parallel.. testing seems so different.. i dont know if its software testing
or hardware..or whatever... they asked me voip too and i'd showed them the
answer by configuring cucm and also drawing on the whiteboard..so i have no
idea what project i would land at...if its voip..it will be a big big
bonus...but chances are remote..

2)i find my mind flickering... like i havent yet made up my mind of what i
want to really do.. till now i wanted to be(long-term) in a customer facing
role doing some heavy deployments..like a ccde person but recent
discussions with directors of a fortune100 company..made me reconsider my
goal...i have yet to explore much and my limited knowledge of corporate
world leaves me with many choices i fail to make sense of.. so maybe a year
in testing will intro me to corporate life in a fortune100 company..and then
i'll see if a ccde role is what i really want to do...

My dream job will help me buy an audi ;P... haaa... rite now my job does
allow me to buy an audi...but only in my dreams;P ..and i need to change
that and quickly...lol...

one of my ccie friend told me to join as testing guy and still keep
preparing for that ccie in voice... but ive decided that for a few months
i'm putting it to rest..and then i will try to awaken that beast in
me..which wanted that # very very badly...not so long ago... till then... so
long guys... and thank you for the help and support all these while..i asked
silly questions... cliff used to answer most questions on the osl..i do
miss his posts..but yeah.. all of u rock.. go tame that # ;)

joel.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Nara Shikamaru shikam...@kagadis.comwrote:

 Joel,
  It sounds like your old company paid for your training materials and
 possibly boot camp?  Most people on this list are here because they're
 working through their IPexpert labs in preparation for the CCIE Voice lab.
 If they did, it seems like they were willing to invest in you even if they
 were small time.  That's still a good situation to be in.

  Besides the fact that you should always look at the market to
 determine the long-term viability of your current training (personally, I
 think VoIP is a safe bet), you should also do it just because you enjoy it.
 If you find yourself working on phones at home in your free time, you should
 continue with it.  People who enjoy what they do are better at their
 professions just because they spend so much time doing it.  I know people
 who are in VoIP because they fell into it and aren't really that into it -
 they're good engineers but not great.  Enjoying what you do will definitely
 help you justify those frustrating training sessions when you can't get CUBE
 to work or working through some bug in your lab that, despite being a bug,
 you still need to learn how to deal with it.

   Should you continue?  Only you can answer.  Do what you enjoy.

 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i was preparing for the lab...and i cleared the written and ccvp...i just
 have 1 yr exp in voip in a local startup company here at my hometown... so
 not any job offer was coming in voip. i left the company as it was a small
 profile..one that didnt help me learn much(company was too small to have
 much cisco gear).
 now i find myself offered a job in software testing in a leading mnc.
 evryone around me is advicing me to take it...and i too feel i should. since
 i have just 1yr exp and am fresh outta grad.. many people said that voip
 neednt be my future..it could be anything as i'm still considered a
 fresher.. But i am afraid my ccie quest will stop... i cant find any reason
 to continue.  Thats where i want your opinions... is there any merit in me
 continuing? i belive ccie is something that must also be backed up by fairly
 good amount of live exp and not just homelabs/proctorlabs...

 thank u people for comments,
 joel.

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Foster’s is the recipient o f the 22 millionth Unified IP Phone that Cisco ha s shipped.

2009-08-20 Thread Joel Jose
http://callcenterinfo.tmcnet.com/analysis/articles/62287-fosters-deploy-cisco-unified-communications-solutions.htm

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] cipc gets voice vlan through switchport voice vlan ??

2009-08-13 Thread Joel Jose
hy people,

does cipc get vlan through cdp?? i have read in cisco.com that it does
indeed happen... but i have tried many times and could not make it
happen. when i have to put it in the voice vlan i have to give access
vlan command to the switchport.

one reason the voice vlan command doesnt work may be because the pc
port doesnt know how to tag them...(i've tried only on older switches
so need to make the port trunk manually)... may be newer switch models
have no such problems(but dual vlan is still  a mini trunk right so
does pc port know how to deal with it?)... i have noticed that when i
install cipc, it also installs many networking stuffs like qos and cdp
support..(check network properties)...

joel.
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] any one interested in irc??

2009-08-13 Thread Joel Jose
hy,

if anyone is interested in communication through irc; irc.freenode.net
#cciev would be a good place... i think its more scalable than
msn..etc... so if anyone wanna hop by it would be great...

joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] cipc gets voice vlan through switchport voice vlan ??

2009-08-13 Thread Joel Jose
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cipc/2_1/english/administration/guide/cag21ovr.html

check out the cdp in the table... Cisco IP Communicator uses CDP to
communicate information such as auxiliary VLAN ID, per-port power
management details, and QoS3 configuration information with the Cisco
Catalyst switch.


joel.

On 8/14/09, Jonathan Charles jonv...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have seen CIPC pick up the option 150 TFTP server (from the data
 vlan)... but the only way to get CIPC onto the voice vlan is to make
 the switchport the pc is connected to an access port on the voice
 vlan...

 This is why Cisco has the untrusted PC with ip softphone as a QoS
 option for switches...


 J

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Joel Josejoeljose...@gmail.com wrote:
 hy people,

 does cipc get vlan through cdp?? i have read in cisco.com that it does
 indeed happen... but i have tried many times and could not make it
 happen. when i have to put it in the voice vlan i have to give access
 vlan command to the switchport.

 one reason the voice vlan command doesnt work may be because the pc
 port doesnt know how to tag them...(i've tried only on older switches
 so need to make the port trunk manually)... may be newer switch models
 have no such problems(but dual vlan is still  a mini trunk right so
 does pc port know how to deal with it?)... i have noticed that when i
 install cipc, it also installs many networking stuffs like qos and cdp
 support..(check network properties)...

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] cipc gets voice vlan through switchport voice vlan ??

2009-08-13 Thread Joel Jose
Since ip cant be learnt through cdp(the above guide itself says so)
the main reason of the cdp will be to give vlan id from switch... it
only makes sense if voice vlan can be assigned by swicth port voice
vlan and hence qos and security can be given specific to the cipc and
not to the pc in general(even if some hacking software modifies the
dscp codes of say torrent traffic ;P )


either it doesnt work the documented way..or i just dont know how to
make them work...mostly the later..when was the last time cisco was
wrong?? ;P

joel.

On 8/14/09, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cipc/2_1/english/administration/guide/cag21ovr.html

 check out the cdp in the table... Cisco IP Communicator uses CDP to
 communicate information such as auxiliary VLAN ID, per-port power
 management details, and QoS3 configuration information with the Cisco
 Catalyst switch.


 joel.

 On 8/14/09, Jonathan Charles jonv...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have seen CIPC pick up the option 150 TFTP server (from the data
 vlan)... but the only way to get CIPC onto the voice vlan is to make
 the switchport the pc is connected to an access port on the voice
 vlan...

 This is why Cisco has the untrusted PC with ip softphone as a QoS
 option for switches...


 J

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Joel Josejoeljose...@gmail.com wrote:
 hy people,

 does cipc get vlan through cdp?? i have read in cisco.com that it does
 indeed happen... but i have tried many times and could not make it
 happen. when i have to put it in the voice vlan i have to give access
 vlan command to the switchport.

 one reason the voice vlan command doesnt work may be because the pc
 port doesnt know how to tag them...(i've tried only on older switches
 so need to make the port trunk manually)... may be newer switch models
 have no such problems(but dual vlan is still  a mini trunk right so
 does pc port know how to deal with it?)... i have noticed that when i
 install cipc, it also installs many networking stuffs like qos and cdp
 support..(check network properties)...

 joel.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] V3 notes, etc. HTH

2009-08-11 Thread Joel Jose
that was an important read. I have a feeling thats going to be the important
read for me for a while. Thank you for your time in writing this.
and congrats for your #... its a work in progress for me...

joel.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Tanner Ezell tanner.ez...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for that Art, very valuable insight!

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Art Sandborgh asandbo...@hotmail.comwrote:

  All,
 As promised here are the questions and my answers, and also since several
 list members asked about strategy I’ve added a couple sections on both study
 and lab.  Finally I have included a lessons learned section.  All of the
 following is based on my experiences preparing for, and sitting the exam and
 are in no way representative of what someone else should necessarily do.  If
 they help you, great.  If you have a better or alternative method, by all
 means please help the other list membership by posting it.  This is what
 finally allowed me to pass the V3 lab and hopefully it will aid others in
 their efforts to do the same.

 QA I have rec’d and responded to:

 1. q. How have the proctors adjusted to the V3 lab content?  Are they
 familiar with it or has anyone encountered confusion or bewilderment on
 behalf of the proctor due to the new content in lab?
 a. I asked a few questions of one proctor – none were terribly technical
 that I can recall, but he was able to answer them immediately and clearly,
 which implied to me that he was quite familiar with what I was asking about.

 2. q. Do you work with Voice more than any other area of Cisco
 technology?
 a. Yes I have worked voice - primarily Cisco voice products since 2000.
 In the last two years it has been exclusively voice.  Working with it in the
 field helps develop troubleshooting techniques and a deeper understanding of
 the product set system wide, but you also develop habits that don't
 necessarily transport to the lab well.

 3. q. Your history is much like mine, I've taken V1, V2 and now heading
 toward V3.  Can you tell me what you changed in studying that allowed a pass
 this time?
 a. I will cover this below in the strategy section below

 4. q. I do want to know how long you studied every day, my family is
 starting to get annoyed by my lack of just being there (lights on but nobody
 home) when I’m home labbing. How did you cope? Lots of coffee, monster
 drinks, redbull?
 a. This is a tough subject and I had it easy by comparison to many on this
 list.  Since it spanned five years it went in spurts and starts – and yes my
 family did get annoyed at times, but luckily my employer was supportive
 through the entire gig and when I wasn’t billable I was able to study during
 the day.  Towards the end they also took me off of availability and allowed
 me to prepare full time.  Generally I would lab for about eight to ten hours
 starting at 6:00AM and then do another 2 to 3 hours of research and
 technology work after that – or until my brain shut down.  Let's face it -
 what you ask about is time management - it's a big part of the lab
 preparations as well as the lab itself.  I don’t consider myself an expert
 on this at all – perhaps other folks can contribute thoughts/strategies?

 5. q. What is the equipment list of you home lab?
 a. Please see below – I have no home lab.


 Training Resources
 I used IPExpert/Proctorlabs and this list as my sole providers of
 certification materials and instruction other than materials on CCO.  I
 signed up for their end-to-end program last year and sat two of their
 instructor led boot-camps (the second time free – per their guarantee).
 Both classes were very valuable in my overall preparation – not only for the
 technical information gathered but for the lab strategies and
 information/analysis of the CCIE Voice sections of Cisco Live.   I attribute
 a good deal of my success in passing this round (V3) to the materials and
 instruction from IPExpert, as well as all of the V2 materials that are still
 applicable.  I also would like to recognize Vik Malhi for helping me adapt
 my field deployment habits to effective lab execution routines.

 Equipment
 I utilized a mix of Proctorlabs racks and a shared company rack that had
 2800s, 3800s, a 3745, UC500 and a 7845 with 8gig fully loaded disk and
 VMware ESX for the five servers needed for V3.  For some exercises the
 proctorlabs racks were more appropriate.   We are utilizing our old Unity 4
 box from the V2 lab for the AD/LDAP integration for V3.   I had no home lab
 since my V1 attempts.

 Preparation Strategy etc.

 1. If you haven’t already, figure out your weak points.  Mine are speed
 and stress related mistakes.  I never conquered my speed issues but the new
 lab has some aspects that I will delve into that helped reduce the need for
 brute speed on the console – for those of us lacking that talent.  I took
 other measures to mitigate my stress related problems, but they still
 plagued me.

 2. When I came to the conclusion I

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Impression of V3 - My two cents worth.

2009-08-10 Thread Joel Jose
I may be wrong havent attempted... but i think...no one can spoon feed
the #.. and yes der is diff with lot of things engineers are people who
maximise a given prob...within the given contraints if there was no
constraints , engineers would be an overkill.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Sean B Davis seanbda...@mavetech.comwrote:

  Which part? I am completely disappointed with all the training
 providers lack of prep for the new version. I do not see any thing in my
 comment that is NDA. I have given no details and will not, I am just
 saying there are technologies in the blue print that are not covered
 fully in the Workbooks out there. I am also not seeing how every
 impression posted does not even mention this. It's time someone spoke a
 little truth on this list. It's also time the the training providers
 started getting out from behind the 8 ball. If I where any of the
 training companies out there right now I would stop having classes and
 focus on getting my content up to the new blue print and not just adding
 a few things to the old content. I have now spent $6000 on over price
 workbooks and rack rentals just to be completely blindsided on the test.
 I would expect to see a few things on the test that are necessarily on
 the workbooks but not to this extent. Now ever rack providers is saying
 they will not have CUCM capabilities for the CUE until mid to late
 September. How hard is it to put a ftp client and the software on the VM
 PC??? Anwser 25 mins on our VM Ware server here in the office, the
 systems guys say the could copy the updated VM to 30 ESX boxes by
 morning! Guys that are just starting should know what is lacking, where
 is this info when you order!?  What the training providers need to
 realize is that not all off work for national Cisco parters with
 unlimited budgets and see every technology done in the real world. We
 depend on them to have update material and lab equipment/configurations.

 Sean

 c george
 Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:30:00 -0700

 maybe you should rephrase your comment alittle maybe?!

 Respectfully Charles George



  Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:10:11 -0500
  From: seanbda...@mavetech.com
  To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Impression of V3 - My two cents worth.
 
  This was my third time around, twice with v2 now once with V3. Yes it
  was very challenging but completely doable. The big thing was the items
  that none of the prep material out there covers in-depth, including
  Cisco own SRND (it makes a good start). Sort of got blindsided by those
  items.
 
  Some hints:
 
  Do not waste too much time or money with the prep material from anyone
  at this point, they still have not got it together.
  Read the SRND word for word several times!!!
  If a rack provider cannot get the CUE loaded with CUCM version of the
  software do not buy from them
  Find the advanced dial plan presentation from Networkers 2009 and study
  like it was your bible
 
  Keep in mind 60% of the material from IPexpert, CCbootcamb, and
  Internetwork Expert will help, but is not complete enough especially in
  the advanced dial plan area and CUE with CUCM. I came close but could
  have used more study material on the dial plan, did not see the
  Networkers presentation until the day after I came back from my test.
 
  Sean Davis, CCVP(Will be CCIE on Sept 3^rd )
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] lab2a alternate method to limit to disable newcall when on hold..

2009-07-30 Thread Joel Jose
hy,
isnt it okay to change the maximum number of calls in the line config to
1?? i get the same result... but i think it may violate the requirement of
5 max call and 3 call wait that was asked earlier... so in this case the
only correct method is the one in PG right?

joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

2009-07-30 Thread Joel Jose
i may be wrong here...

but i think * means 0 or more occurance, ? means zero or one occurance and +
means 1 or more occurance. In that case... 51.+ will mean u have atleast 4
digits... the first 2 digits are 51 and the 3rd digit can be 0-9..and there
must be one more digit that is . so 0-9... there can be any more
digits..all of them . If this def is right...then 51.+/51XT is not equal to
51! or 51T as in those its 0 or more occurance...hence min required digits
is 2, unlike in former case where it is 4.


i'm still learning...so may be wrong here... dont take this verbatim ;)

joel.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Bill Hatcher wchatc...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the example you provided, it would match on 5122.
 51333.. 512323232323. 5132323232 51332322322... etc.  It
 looks to the preceding digit or wild card and will match on any number of
 those digits afterwards.  So if you did 51.+ or 51X+  that would be the same
 as 51T or 51!  depending on if it was IOS or CallManager.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Deepak sidana 
 sidana_dee...@yahoo.comwrote:

   Thanks Bill

 I got something on Route pattern wildcards in CIPT-I book.


 wildcard+



 Matches one or more occurrences of any digit that matches the previous
 wildcard



 Looking for more explanation on this, as its look confusing to me.


 If i create route pattern of 51[23]+



 



 dial 51234, What will be the behaviour?


 Rgds
 Deepak Sidana.


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 *To:* Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com;
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, 30 July, 2009 12:46:44 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

 the + is the international escape code.  It is used to represent 001, 011,
 00 depending on what country you live in.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Deepak sidana 
 sidana_dee...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Hi All,



 I was going through the wildcards under Call Routing.



 I have following question.



 What Wildcard “+” means  how it works in route pattern?



 If I have to dial 521234(PSTN) from CUCM, how can I use route pattern
 with “+” wildcard?



 Regards,

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

2009-07-30 Thread Joel Jose
talking about mistakes... 51! needs min of 3 digits and not 2 unlike what i
told earlier... about 51T i am confident of my previous answer ;).

look this up...it will tiea few loose strings..;)
http://www.ciscosystems.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/6_1_1/ccmsys/a03rp.html#wpxref11697

joel.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i may be wrong here...

 but i think * means 0 or more occurance, ? means zero or one occurance and
 + means 1 or more occurance. In that case... 51.+ will mean u have atleast 4
 digits... the first 2 digits are 51 and the 3rd digit can be 0-9..and there
 must be one more digit that is . so 0-9... there can be any more
 digits..all of them . If this def is right...then 51.+/51XT is not equal to
 51! or 51T as in those its 0 or more occurance...hence min required digits
 is 2, unlike in former case where it is 4.


 i'm still learning...so may be wrong here... dont take this verbatim ;)

 joel.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Bill Hatcher wchatc...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the example you provided, it would match on 5122.
 51333.. 512323232323. 5132323232 51332322322... etc.  It
 looks to the preceding digit or wild card and will match on any number of
 those digits afterwards.  So if you did 51.+ or 51X+  that would be the same
 as 51T or 51!  depending on if it was IOS or CallManager.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Deepak sidana 
 sidana_dee...@yahoo.comwrote:

   Thanks Bill

 I got something on Route pattern wildcards in CIPT-I book.


 wildcard+



 Matches one or more occurrences of any digit that matches the previous
 wildcard



 Looking for more explanation on this, as its look confusing to me.


 If i create route pattern of 51[23]+



 



 dial 51234, What will be the behaviour?


 Rgds
 Deepak Sidana.


  --
 *From:* Bill Hatcher wchatc...@gmail.com
 *To:* Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com;
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, 30 July, 2009 12:46:44 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

 the + is the international escape code.  It is used to represent 001,
 011, 00 depending on what country you live in.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com
  wrote:



 Hi All,



 I was going through the wildcards under Call Routing.



 I have following question.



 What Wildcard “+” means  how it works in route pattern?



 If I have to dial 521234(PSTN) from CUCM, how can I use route pattern
 with “+” wildcard?



 Regards,

 Deepak.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

2009-07-30 Thread Joel Jose
another blunder... ? i ios means 0 or 1 occurance... ? in cucm means 0 or
more occurance... so ? in cucm == * in ios... and * in cucm = * in ipphone
;)

joel.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 talking about mistakes... 51! needs min of 3 digits and not 2 unlike what i
 told earlier... about 51T i am confident of my previous answer ;).

 look this up...it will tiea few loose strings..;)

 http://www.ciscosystems.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/6_1_1/ccmsys/a03rp.html#wpxref11697

 joel.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i may be wrong here...

 but i think * means 0 or more occurance, ? means zero or one occurance and
 + means 1 or more occurance. In that case... 51.+ will mean u have atleast 4
 digits... the first 2 digits are 51 and the 3rd digit can be 0-9..and there
 must be one more digit that is . so 0-9... there can be any more
 digits..all of them . If this def is right...then 51.+/51XT is not equal to
 51! or 51T as in those its 0 or more occurance...hence min required digits
 is 2, unlike in former case where it is 4.


 i'm still learning...so may be wrong here... dont take this verbatim ;)

 joel.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Bill Hatcher wchatc...@gmail.comwrote:

 In the example you provided, it would match on 5122.
 51333.. 512323232323. 5132323232 51332322322... etc.  It
 looks to the preceding digit or wild card and will match on any number of
 those digits afterwards.  So if you did 51.+ or 51X+  that would be the same
 as 51T or 51!  depending on if it was IOS or CallManager.


 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Thanks Bill

 I got something on Route pattern wildcards in CIPT-I book.


 wildcard+



 Matches one or more occurrences of any digit that matches the previous
 wildcard



 Looking for more explanation on this, as its look confusing to me.


 If i create route pattern of 51[23]+



 



 dial 51234, What will be the behaviour?


 Rgds
 Deepak Sidana.


  --
 *From:* Bill Hatcher wchatc...@gmail.com
 *To:* Deepak sidana sidana_dee...@yahoo.com;
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, 30 July, 2009 12:46:44 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Call Routing Question

 the + is the international escape code.  It is used to represent 001,
 011, 00 depending on what country you live in.

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Deepak sidana 
 sidana_dee...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Hi All,



 I was going through the wildcards under Call Routing.



 I have following question.



 What Wildcard “+” means  how it works in route pattern?



 If I have to dial 521234(PSTN) from CUCM, how can I use route pattern
 with “+” wildcard?



 Regards,

 Deepak.

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] some silly misc questions about meetme, intercom, barge and lab2a vol1

2009-07-29 Thread Joel Jose
hy ppl,
meet-me just has that one config page with partition,meetme number and
description right??...am i missing something?? i never get it to work..

the intercom is very much depended on the phone type right?? i have cipc and
the intercom options(in the admin pages) are shown but no intercom line
appears on the phone and it doesnt work at all..

barge is a feature of the phone right?? imean it depends on only
built-in-bridge right?? it doesnt need cfb of the cucm right?? i get this
error on the 7960 conference bridge not available when i try to barge. i
had got it to work in the past on another phone and cucm.. i think i am
experiecing some hardware problem(with phone's bridge)

in lab2a of vol1 the phone's are updated using BAT... i normally do it on
with the normal device-phone... what is the preferred method in lab?? lab
only has a few phones rite(i believe)??

thats all i can think of to ask now.. really exhausted... so many small
small config for the features...its getting a pain..blaaah.. ;)


joel.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Test to all OSL Mailing Lists

2009-07-15 Thread Joel Jose
yup got it

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Jeffrey Hall layer8...@gmail.com wrote:

 Got it...thanks!

 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Mark Snow ms...@ipexpert.com wrote:

 OSL Voice, RS, Security, and SP constituents,
 As many of you now know, some changes were made Friday night (without
 being tested) that caused mail service to be interrupted over the 
 weekend.Those responsible (not me - I just got the privilege of having to 
 FIX it :)
 have been drug into a back alley and promptly dispatched of.

 Anyway - big test message to see if mail is processing correctly. If you
 do get this message, REPLY TO ALL - that way all of the messages float
 through the OSL mail server and we can confirm in a larger way that mail is
 back up properly.


 Thanks!

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] clone vs snapshot vs any better method??

2009-07-15 Thread Joel Jose
its 7.0. I think like Michael said.. i may need to do it in pairs.. may be i
cant back it up individually and restore individually... the dbreplication
repair all was talking like ages!!.. so i quit that..
joel.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Tim Smith thsglo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Have you tried using BARS or DRS? Again not sure on your CCM version.

 Cheers,

 Tim.

 On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i am so sick and tired with this... the main problem for which i thot
 vmware had a solution is still stinking me... how do i do a proper backup
 and restore?? i mena i have pub and sub... my pub had a db connectivity
 error(due to an abrupt power failure)...sub was fine... i had already cloned
 all my vmwares into another backupdir.. so i copied the pub clone and thot i
 was done... first of all.. the db wipes clean.. yeah..yeah..obviously.. but
 now i cant even find the sub as an available node for my cucm-group..
 however all sub configurations can be changed and is reflected on the pub
 gui itself... yes i have cross checked the serviceablity for both nodes and
 thats fine
 my backup strat is pretty boring i know.. i still havent figured what the
 snapshots do... if anyone can suggest a better way to backup my servers it
 would be great.. my head is spinning on the thoughts of a cucm reinstall
 from dvd... even a quadcore q9550 with 8gb ram has its limits on sluggish
 algorithms(redhat-cisco-installation-scripts) u see ;( .

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] clone vs snapshot vs any better method??

2009-07-14 Thread Joel Jose
i am so sick and tired with this... the main problem for which i thot vmware
had a solution is still stinking me... how do i do a proper backup and
restore?? i mena i have pub and sub... my pub had a db connectivity
error(due to an abrupt power failure)...sub was fine... i had already cloned
all my vmwares into another backupdir.. so i copied the pub clone and thot i
was done... first of all.. the db wipes clean.. yeah..yeah..obviously.. but
now i cant even find the sub as an available node for my cucm-group..
however all sub configurations can be changed and is reflected on the pub
gui itself... yes i have cross checked the serviceablity for both nodes and
thats fine
my backup strat is pretty boring i know.. i still havent figured what the
snapshots do... if anyone can suggest a better way to backup my servers it
would be great.. my head is spinning on the thoughts of a cucm reinstall
from dvd... even a quadcore q9550 with 8gb ram has its limits on sluggish
algorithms(redhat-cisco-installation-scripts) u see ;( .

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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] autoregistered phone... acting like zombie!!

2009-07-14 Thread Joel Jose
i triedn changing DN number.. but in one of the phones(cipc) its not
changing... i then deleted the entry from pub..and still the phone does not
unregister or even change DN.. i checked the device-phone and there is no
phone with that mac...but still the phone is there perfectly registered...
and able to call..etc.. i have had this issue once..and i dont remmeber how
i solved it... may be i resinstalled from scratch.. i dont remember... why
doesnt cisco have a clean SQL db implementation??... uhhh... i am from
India...if this is the kinda quality our outsourcing companies are giving...
then i have good news for my american brothers!! ;).. LOL... somewhere
something is broken... or may be i am just dreaming...
joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly doubt regarding lab2A

2009-07-04 Thread Joel Jose
thanks bill,
so i suppose only the SUB server needs to be configured for
autoregisteration right?? or is there redundancy possible even in this
department??(i know for sure that there an be only 1 cucm group in a cluster
with autoreg enabled.. but within that cucm group can all servers have
autoreg enabled(for redundancy)??)

joel.

On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Bill Talley bill.tal...@aos5.com wrote:

  Once you’ve identified the phones (mac address/switchport/whatever), shut
 them down using your preferred method.   Configure the auto-register
 parameters for HQ and bring those phones up in the correct order to ensure
 the proper extensions are assigned in the correct order.   Once those are
 up, change the auto-register parameters to match B1 requirements, then bring
 those phones online in the correct order.  Make sure the phone has obtained
 a DN in UCM before bringing up the next phones  as they could register out
 of order.



 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Jose
 *Sent:* Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:06 AM
 *To:* Vik Malhi; Mark Snow; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly doubt regarding lab2A



 inorder to have HQ phones and B1phones autoregister.. how do we go about
 it?? i mean they have diff DN ranges right...so got a little confusing... in
 the PG the screenshots solving this are causing me to be confused... both
 pub and sub will have the same autoregister DN range?? and can more than 1
 server have autoregistration enabled in the same cluster? how does in  the
 subsequent screenshot the BR1 phone gets DN of 1000 range automagically??



 thanks for your time,

 joel.


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] anyone who is close to GMT+5:30 ??

2009-06-28 Thread Joel Jose
hy,
okay check my blog http://bravingallodds.blogspot.com . thats where u can
get my updates. Amp also has one www.cciequest.com.

dont have fun along with studies.., rather have fun studying ;)

joel.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Arun Kumar arunv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm from Mumbai India and I'm also preparing for my lab exam lets discuss
 may be we can help each other.

 Cheers
 Arun


 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Amp amccar...@cciequest.com wrote:

 Joel,
 Where exactly do you live and what times do you plan on studying?

 Amp







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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] The most talented people in the world

2009-06-28 Thread Joel Jose
Dont spam this list. retard.

On 6/29/09, anthony giovinazzi anthonyg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Network Engineers

 Know that for the first time in recorded history workers in an
 Indiustry have surpassed their bosses in Intellect

 However Everyone of you who works past 40 hours damages us all if you
 are not being paid

 It is time for all of you to stop being greatful squirels

 At the very minmum we all need to be paid our base hourly rate past 40
 hour per week

 So if you make 100k and work 500 hour overtime your bonus should be 25,000

 2000 hours per year is average right.  Its time to stop the Abuse

 Do the math.  If your going to get a pension in 20 your already taken care
 of.

 Any of you can email me for incorporation insurance and business advice



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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS - Max-reserved-bandwidth needed? Not needed

2009-06-21 Thread Joel Jose
okay,

i have always had this doubt.. but i thought the QOS book cleared it for
me.. but just to ask... the main routing protocols are i believe serviced by
a inbuild..mechanism in thr cisco routers.. called some PAK_priority or
something..so the normal routing rpotocols dont

On 6/21/09, Michael Ciarfello mciarfe...@iplogic.com wrote:

  I think the only time you need to fool with max-reserved is when the
 circuit (or CIR on the circuit) is extremly small and you can't fit your one
 call on it.  Say a g711 call on a 128k CIR frame-relay circuit.  Ok, the
 math didn't work out.  Or when your circuit is very large, say 45mb and 11Mb
 (25% of 45Mb) is PLENTY for your routing protocols and other router stuff.
  --
 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Joel Jose [
 joeljose...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:34 PM
 *To:* CCIE OSL
 *Cc:* OSL Group
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS - Max-reserved-bandwidth needed? Not
 needed


  i believe the queueing settings if configured properly will take
 precedence over shaping. shaping dictates how much packets will leave the
 interface and at what rate...queuing determines which of the queues will
 leave first and beyond the queue bandwidth the packets will get
 tail-dropped.

  have a doubt whether both shaping and queuing are usually configured in
 the same interface.. i dont think so.




 Max-serserved-Bandwidth need not be changed at all.. cisco recommends not
 to change it. 75% of the bandwidth is enough for the cbwfq and PQ.. rest 25%
 must go to the fair-queue that will be the default class.. u dont need to
 specify bandwidth for the default class.. it will get the remaining 25%
 automatically.


 and your understanding of classification and the various traffic that goes
 into each is seriously wrong. please have a look at this link :
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk543/tk759/technologies_white_paper0900aecd80295a9b.pdf


 You never put routing and other critical traffic into
 class-default..atleast not on purpose!!.




 i may be wrong in some.. i am sure other people wil point that out ;)
 joel.
 On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:26 AM, CCIE OSL ccie...@gmail.com wrote:


 I think this question has been asked before,
 I have searched achieve but did not find the answer yet.
 I thought I know this one, but after spending 3 hours into QOS LFI and LLQ
 now I am more confused.

 So I have 768k to BR2,
 I am configuring all shaping command to 95% of bandwidth.
 729.6K
 However, by default I can only use 75% of actual interface bandwidth.
 So, Do I need to change the max-reserved-bandwidth to 95%?? or even 100
 since class-default can handle the routing and other layer 2 traffic???
 I am thinking , YES, but none of solution for IPExPERT has this command
 in.
 So I am guessing that when you configure CIR and MINCIR, this will take
 presence over current max-reserved-bandwidth of 75%
 Can someone help??
 Thanks...




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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS - Max-reserved-bandwidth needed? Not needed

2009-06-21 Thread Joel Jose
okay,
i have always had this doubt.. but i thought the QOS book cleared it for
me.. but just to ask... the main routing protocols are i believe serviced by
a inbuild..mechanism in the cisco routers.. called some PAK_priority or
something..so the normal routing potocols dont get serviced by our normal
QOS approach right??.. i believ the 6 and 7 cos/ipp are for experimental
protocols...

joel.


On 6/21/09, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:


 okay,

 i have always had this doubt.. but i thought the QOS book cleared it for
 me.. but just to ask... the main routing protocols are i believe serviced by
 a inbuild..mechanism in thr cisco routers.. called some PAK_priority or
 something..so the normal routing rpotocols dont

  On 6/21/09, Michael Ciarfello mciarfe...@iplogic.com wrote:

  I think the only time you need to fool with max-reserved is when the
 circuit (or CIR on the circuit) is extremly small and you can't fit your one
 call on it.  Say a g711 call on a 128k CIR frame-relay circuit.  Ok, the
 math didn't work out.  Or when your circuit is very large, say 45mb and 11Mb
 (25% of 45Mb) is PLENTY for your routing protocols and other router stuff.
  --
 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Joel Jose [
 joeljose...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:34 PM
 *To:* CCIE OSL
 *Cc:* OSL Group
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS - Max-reserved-bandwidth needed?
 Not needed


  i believe the queueing settings if configured properly will take
 precedence over shaping. shaping dictates how much packets will leave the
 interface and at what rate...queuing determines which of the queues will
 leave first and beyond the queue bandwidth the packets will get
 tail-dropped.

  have a doubt whether both shaping and queuing are usually configured in
 the same interface.. i dont think so.




 Max-serserved-Bandwidth need not be changed at all.. cisco recommends not
 to change it. 75% of the bandwidth is enough for the cbwfq and PQ.. rest 25%
 must go to the fair-queue that will be the default class.. u dont need to
 specify bandwidth for the default class.. it will get the remaining 25%
 automatically.


 and your understanding of classification and the various traffic that goes
 into each is seriously wrong. please have a look at this link :
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk543/tk759/technologies_white_paper0900aecd80295a9b.pdf


 You never put routing and other critical traffic into
 class-default..atleast not on purpose!!.




 i may be wrong in some.. i am sure other people wil point that out ;)
 joel.
 On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:26 AM, CCIE OSL ccie...@gmail.com wrote:


 I think this question has been asked before,
 I have searched achieve but did not find the answer yet.
 I thought I know this one, but after spending 3 hours into QOS LFI and
 LLQ now I am more confused.

 So I have 768k to BR2,
 I am configuring all shaping command to 95% of bandwidth.
 729.6K
 However, by default I can only use 75% of actual interface bandwidth.
 So, Do I need to change the max-reserved-bandwidth to 95%?? or even 100
 since class-default can handle the routing and other layer 2 traffic???
 I am thinking , YES, but none of solution for IPExPERT has this command
 in.
 So I am guessing that when you configure CIR and MINCIR, this will take
 presence over current max-reserved-bandwidth of 75%
 Can someone help??
 Thanks...




 --
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 --
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS - Max-reserved-bandwidth needed? Not needed

2009-06-20 Thread Joel Jose
i believe the queueing settings if configured properly will take precedence
over shaping. shaping dictates how much packets will leave the interface and
at what rate...queuing determines which of the queues will leave first and
beyond the queue bandwidth the packets will get tail-dropped.
 have a doubt whether both shaping and queuing are usually configured in the
same interface.. i dont think so.


Max-serserved-Bandwidth need not be changed at all.. cisco recommends not to
change it. 75% of the bandwidth is enough for the cbwfq and PQ.. rest 25%
must go to the fair-queue that will be the default class.. u dont need to
specify bandwidth for the default class.. it will get the remaining 25%
automatically.

and your understanding of classification and the various traffic that goes
into each is seriously wrong. please have a look at this link :
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/technologies/tk543/tk759/technologies_white_paper0900aecd80295a9b.pdf

You never put routing and other critical traffic into class-default..atleast
not on purpose!!.


i may be wrong in some.. i am sure other people wil point that out ;)
joel.
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:26 AM, CCIE OSL ccie...@gmail.com wrote:


 I think this question has been asked before,
 I have searched achieve but did not find the answer yet.
 I thought I know this one, but after spending 3 hours into QOS LFI and LLQ
 now I am more confused.

 So I have 768k to BR2,
 I am configuring all shaping command to 95% of bandwidth.
 729.6K
 However, by default I can only use 75% of actual interface bandwidth.
 So, Do I need to change the max-reserved-bandwidth to 95%?? or even 100
 since class-default can handle the routing and other layer 2 traffic???
 I am thinking , YES, but none of solution for IPExPERT has this command in.
 So I am guessing that when you configure CIR and MINCIR, this will take
 presence over current max-reserved-bandwidth of 75%
 Can someone help??
 Thanks...




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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] check this out...

2009-06-17 Thread Joel Jose
http://www.applied-concepts.net/CUCMS-Overview-Module1/launcher.html#

http://www.applied-concepts.net/CUCMS-Overview-Module1/launcher.html#just
got it in my twitter from cisco UC. i havent used these tools at all...
would they be available for the lab? if they are..i assume they could make
troubleshooting easier.

joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Written Study Materials

2009-06-17 Thread Joel Jose
i would recommend u to have a look at this entry..it sure helped me pass
written as well gain a solid understanding and confidence in my workplace.
It wont be easy..but well worth it... i had  aserious problem of being
sleepy while just doing passive reading..so be prepared to read notes and
also follow this 2nd link for that :
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/24374
http://blog.internetworkexpert.com/2009/03/22/how-to-study/


hope to see u soon with a ccie# ;)

joel.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Tanner Ezell tanner.ez...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you for your response Michael!
 I plan on (trying) to get the books listed on the ccie booklist by Cisco
 (though they get spendy quickly!), are there any specific books you'd
 recommend starting with? Also, when you mention theory, can you be more
 specific?

 Thanks again!


 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Michael Ciarfello mciarfe...@iplogic.com
  wrote:

  Hi there and welcome,

 I would say read everything you can cover to cover.  SRND's, QoS guides,
 SRST guides, etc, etc, etc.
 Note that there is now an Open Ended Question section on the lab (see post
 from yesterday)  So you have to read theory now or later.  Would probably
 make your Written exam easier to read it now.

 Expereince also helps with the passing the written.  Don't have to cram
 too much in there if your expereince level makes you answer questions that
 roll off your tongue without thinking because you did this and that
 1,000 times.  Like riding a bike.  Expereince can't cover everything, but
 less to cram and try to remember when you have more roll off the tongue's.

  --
 *From:* ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Tanner Ezell [
 tanner.ez...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:12 PM
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Written Study Materials

  Hey all,
  I've [all but] recently decided to move ahead in pursuit of the CCIE
 Voice, and upon looking over the written exam, I can't help but wonder what
 resources those of you who have taken it have used to study? I've only found
 one product out there aimed at the written by ccbootcamp, does anyone have
 experience with that? I'd greatly appreciate it, for the labs I'm looking at
 getting the blended learning solution by IPexpert which I think will be of
 great value, but the written leaves me a little mystified!

  Thanks,
 Tanner Ezell





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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] how to practise the troubleshooting lab in workbook(second best method?)

2009-06-15 Thread Joel Jose
hy,
I find trying to implement the troubleshooting lab in my partial homelab
very unachievable.. if anyof u had luck trying it.. without the actual
spec.. lemme know.. i think it can be done.. u'll just have to rewrite the
config files from scratch to represent the homelab... ofcourse that means
ommiting some and adding some ;).. and on the better side that would also
mean ur doing active learning..and not just sleep off..haa just joking..
obviously none sleeps in front of a proctor session..haa

i plan to do all my troubleshooting labs a.k.a lab B after i complete the
whole lab A scenarios.. i hope thats a step forward and not backward..

i wonder if proctor labs are going to release the sessions in a smaller
format.. esp when u consider that troubleshooting labs would definitely help
with proctorlabs as the best method ;).


joel.


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab1A, DHCP server has excess config in PG?

2009-06-14 Thread Joel Jose
just looked up the help-this page.. i calculated and found that its the
75% of lease time as mentioned in there.. So i assume that every time we
change the lease value from the default..we need to manually calculate the
T2 timing and enter it there.
joel.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 May be i had an overlook somewhere.. just wanted to ask , why has the T2
 re-binding time been configured in the dhcp server section? and what is that
 value?.  I couldn't find it as part of the requirement.



 joel.
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab1A, DHCP server has excess config in PG?

2009-06-14 Thread Joel Jose
May be i had an overlook somewhere.. just wanted to ask , why has the T2
re-binding time been configured in the dhcp server section? and what is that
value?.  I couldn't find it as part of the requirement.



joel.
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] doubts over credibility of info in qos cisco press self study

2009-06-12 Thread Joel Jose
hy,
i was reading through qos self study from cisco press.. can anyone verify if
the CDT and hold-queue limit explained about the fair queue is correctly
given in there? i have lately been getting a lot of contradictory
informations from various sources.

thanks,
joel.
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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Have I been banned?

2009-06-12 Thread Joel Jose
people who r serious enough to cheat..will cheat..inspite of any measure
anyone takes if someone posts asking to solve a lab question..he would
have done so in a clever manner..if he was ever expecting any serious
answer... its the others who are bend on distracting..who
keep bragging about oh this is my lab question please help!!... well... so
moderation or filtering for that matter wont be much helpful IMHO. a better
alternative may be  to create more awareness on why people must not try to
cheat and ...thank them for not discussing cheats in the forum..
joel.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Michael Ciarfello
mciarfe...@iplogic.comwrote:

 I volunteer to be a moderator.  Lol lol lol.

 Problem is, these people (so far) have come in done their damage and
 don't care what the consequences are. The message has been delivered.  But
 moderation is still needed for posting I had this question on my lab,
 please help which I have seen over on a competitors's web site and there
 seems to have no moderation.


 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:
 ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Mark Snow
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:45 PM
 To: CCIE Voice Maillist
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Have I been banned?

 Hey Jeff,

 No - users won't be banned. And in fact I took out the keywords
 because it was already causing too much of a problem.
 I guess I will just have to keep policing these spammers one at a
 time  sigh.

 I was really only doing it to benefit the rest of the list, but it
 causes more of a pain.
 So while the cheat websites will still be filtered (read: emails with
 the names of those websites won't be allowed through to the rest of
 the list), the other words I mentioned won't cause messages to be
 banned any longer.

 Sorry for the headache :)

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 On Jun 12, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Girard, Jeffrey COL MIL USA wrote:

  Mark -
I replied to your note earlier to get clarification and since
  then I have not received anything from the list.
 
I just tried to send a test message to the list and I got a
  reply saying that it was been held for moderator approval
 
Did I get myself banned for trying to clarify your earlier
  traffic?
 
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] database communication error in sub

2009-06-12 Thread Joel Jose
when i try to log into the sub through gui i get the db communication error.
also i cannot access any sub features from pub gui.. i get this error.. when
i try to take service activation of sub from within pub gui... : Connection
to the Server cannot be established (Unable to access Remote Node)
i tried dbreplication from sub cli..but it says error that that db of sub is
not yet up...i donno what to do about it...

if ther is no other way i will reinstall sub.. but before that i just thot
of posting here...

joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUCM 7 - Database communication error afterchanging IP address

2009-06-07 Thread Joel Jose
uuh, u needed to first change ip from under the server subsection of
the system section. ie, first change the ip that in the database.. then
change the ip from the linux cli. i assume even the cli says(warns) so when
u try to do it.
incase that part is right... then i guess someone more experienced will help
the solution...

joel.

2009/6/7 Dave Wong wchi...@hotmail.com

  Hi Azeem
 Yes i do have a PUB and a SUB. I've changed the IP on the PUB first...,
 rebooted it and still getting the database communication error when
 attempting to log in.

 Hi Brian
 Thanks for posting the link for changing IP addresses on CM5.X and CM6.X,
 I'll try out the steps listed there

 regards, Dave



  From: bkvalent...@gmail.com
  To: azeemo...@gmail.com; wchi...@hotmail.com
  CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUCM 7 - Database communication error
 afterchanging IP address
  Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:43:53 -0400

 
  Changing the IP Address is a bit more complicated than that.
 
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/install/6_1_2/ipchange/ipchg612.html
 
  Brian
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Azeem ahamed azeemo...@gmail.com
  To: Dave Wong wchi...@hotmail.com
  Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUCM 7 - Database communication error
  afterchanging IP address
 
 
   Try restarting the the server. also restart thr Call manager Server.
  
   did u have a PUB and SUB running ? if yes which one did u change first
 ?
  
   2009/6/7 Dave Wong wchi...@hotmail.com:
   Hi all
   I have CUCM 7 running on VMWare and I've changed it's IP address using

   set
   network ip eth0 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0. I've also changed its default
   gateway accordingly using set network gateway. After this when i
 launch
   a
   browser to https://10.1.1.1/ccmadmin and attempt to log in, i get
   database
   communication error message. What is the reason for this and what can
 i
   do
   to resolve this?
  
   regards, Dave
  
   
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[OSL | CCIE_Voice] can do without pstn cloud in home lab?

2009-05-24 Thread Joel Jose
hy,

will i miss out on any imp feature if i use just 2 physical routers for
t1/e1?.. i mean br1 and br2 will have straight t1/e1 to each other without a
psnt cloud. and when i use HQ. i will detach one of them and load HQ config
on it.. yeah its time consuming... but pretty economical.. if i dont loose
out on much configs... i was thinking of doing that... the rest of my lab
will be in GNS3 and vmware... at a single point of time i assume i will be
only making a 2 site call...



joel.

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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] first pass, multiple attempts, the eternal optimist... what is the differentiator?

2009-04-20 Thread Joel Jose
when i am done with  my first attempt.. i will post a better reply to this
thread ;).. so matter dont consider it closed.. haaa


joel.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Darren T. Manners dmann...@me.vccs.eduwrote:

 If it was only that easy.It really depends on the day...And im not
 saying to pass it you have to be lucky...but to pass it you really do
 have to immerse yourself in it and have things go your way that
 morningI felt like a cisco borg after my security ie..slowly I got
 back to my lifeIm on my second attempt for voice, and of course the
 content has changed...but I look at it like now were learning the latest
 and greatest stuffmuch more interesting...I think you really have to
 enjoy the journey...the exam is just a milestone in it. My wife was so
 happy that im doing my second ieI also find it strange that my two
 daughters aren't interested in call manager express and prefer to watch
 twilight or Hannah Montana...but then that's just memy problem was
 just timing on the second...i scored high (really high 80-100% on the
 sections I didbut then I ran out of time...
 You can know it inside outbut you have to know it with speed...
 That's just my two pennies worth

 Darren

 Information Security Officer
 Mountain Empire Community College
 CCIE (SEC) # 18929, CISSP (#85782), CCSP, GIAC GCIA (#0849) GCIH (#1348)
 GCWN (#0467) CCVP, MCSE, ASE HP, CCA

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 Email: dmann...@me.vccs.edu
 www.mecc.edu


 -Original Message-
 From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com
 [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Joel Jose
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:19 AM
 To: James Key; pushkarbhatk...@gmail.com; Cliff McGlamry;
 ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] first pass, multiple attempts,the eternal
 optimist... what is the differentiator?


 1) most people who get multiple attempts.. needed that despite being
 thorough with the leading materials

 2) most people who pass within reasonable attempts always knew most of
 the stuff all along

 3) people who pass the first time are just damn lucky.. and also all the
 above.

 4)people who take multple attempts.. needed that because of some flaw in
 thier exam taking strategy

 5)eternal optimist..?? i have no clue.. but yeah.. someone who has a lot
 of spare money..or is a FTE of cisco(3 free attempts.. and then the game
 begins.. ;) )


 i may be so off the senses here.. but i am sure u wil exuse me.. the
 junior ccie in the making ;)


 please contribute your feeds to make this a little more
 sensible(digestible)..


 The main reason i opted for the jouney is for getting a level playing
 ground to display and be appreciated/evaluated for my skills.. college
 doesnt do things the fair way always(i have a BS degree in CS).. but.. i
 like the concept of ccie... and its better than the gmat/gre style that
 doesnt test me on what i like... or even what i vaguely like...


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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...

2009-03-23 Thread Joel Jose
wel..,

i am now pondering about the connector options... i need to buy one from
online/local store... and fast... the objective is to connect a 3500xl with
3750.. using the fiber connectors...

i have narrowed my choice into *Cisco LC To SC Multimode SX Fiber Cable, 10
M, CSS5-CABSX-LCSC
http://www.cablesandkits.com/cisco-multimode-fiber-cable-css5cabsxlcsc-p-2634.html
and
Cisco LC-SC Singlemode Duplex Fiber Patch Cable, 5M*

i donno the diff between them... but i think i must choose... the first
one(its more expensive)... i really dont know


joel.


On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 well.., i am thinking of a pretty bad workaroundi dont wanna buy the
 sfp trancievers... so i will use the 3500xl poe.. layer2 switch along with
 the 3750.. i can use trunking and i need only to connect the devices to
 3500xl... like the access layer and distribution layer... i know i am just
 wasting electricity and even its a bad design but for the labs.. and
 studying. i thinks thats ok... the 3560's(have about 4 of them).. are in
 very high demand at work...so i cant get them out of thier assignments.. but
 a couple of 3750..noone actually cares...its lying in dust..;(..
 .


 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Cliff McGlamry cl...@mcglamry.netwrote:

  Hey Joel,

 The biggest difference between the 3750 and the 3560 is that the 3750 is
 stackable where the 3500 series is not.  I don't believe any of the things
 involved with stacking and synchronizing the stack would be part of the
 voice test, and believe you'd be fine using either one.

 I'm not the official word, but having worked with both, that's my thought.

 Cliff


 - Original Message -
  *From:* Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:12 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...

 hy all,


 http://htluo.blogspot.com/2009/03/ccie-voice-lab-v3.html?showComment=123777408#c1837891742753148075

 looks pretty interesting.. and i am actively pursuing that now i hadnt
 noticed that 3750 and 3560 are similar in ios syntaxes... so in that case..
 i guess.. i just have to use the 3560 then


 joel.

 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i'm trying to make a decent lab..., i have an unused 3750 at work.. but
 it has sfp-LH-sfm modules... buying Cat5 compatible modules are gonna be
 expensive... i just got another idea... i also have a 3560 unused... so i a
 thinking of truning between them using the existing SFP GBIC on them... and
 then connecting my whole lab onto the 3560... i still havent made the plan
 completely... but am in the process so any helps would be
 appreciated

 now... i believe the POE configs on all the devices and the Etherswitch
 modules are a piece of cake.. and i dont have to practise..it... may be
 just a few proctorlabs would be enough for it...(if at all)...  I wonder
 what the etherswitch configs would be like... gues it follows the mqcli of
 ios...? hope the lack of it in my lab wont prove costly..

 and lastly... i plan on using only softphones. i will be mainly
 following the topology of proctorlabs.. so that when i purchase the bls it
 will be easier...i hope.. for most part softphones are no dif from the
 hardphones..(except that they dont have some realy stupid issues with the
 headphone and speakerphone buttons.. like some 7960s in my lab..grrr )


 one more thing... i really am getting annoyed nowadays with the slow
 speed of the cucm vmwares... even a 2/3 second waiting when the loading is
 displayed is really adding up and wasting a good portion of my time... when
 i am wanting to do a quick checkup of all the configs.. its a real pain... i
 wish they had a show run... ghaaush... the way out.. is a good highend
 server.. i will think about the configs for runing all the 5 vmwares + 9
 ipphones in a common server

 i plan to get a 3725 for cue+cme... and for the rest br1 and br2 i plan
 to use 3640s...

 any help in the way of ideas would be greatly appreciated...

 joel.





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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

2009-03-23 Thread Joel Jose
thats right... mostly a codec/regions problemm

 but just as an additional measure.. just check if u have connectivity
between the 2 ip phones... i mean that the iphone in one site must be able
to connect with other site ipphone using direct ip addresses u have a
separate reachable link..or a default gateway configured on the ip
phones(dhcp) right?? when a problem associated with this happens u usually
get dead air...;)

joel.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 If you are getting ring through when you place the call, then your GK
 config is probably OK. If its ringing that tells me the GK sent the call to
 the UCM.

 The fact that it goes fast busy when you pick up sounds like a codec/media
 problem to me. Check the media resources config and your regions.

 Chris

 ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working through scenario , trying to get 4 digit dial from BR2 to HQ
 working via the HQ GK.
 The GK config looks like this.

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCM ipexpert.com http://ipexpert.com 142.1.1.1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 10 Trunk_2
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 9 Trunk_1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 0 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 10 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 0 Trunk_2 Trunk_1
  gw-type-prefix 1#* gw ipaddr 142.2.64.12 1720 gw ipaddr 142.2.64.11 1720
  no shutdown

 I have the UCM registering without a tech-prefix defined and I've adjusted
 the service parameter to insure the UCM listens on port 1720.

 The problem is the call rings through to the HQ DN but comes up fast busy
 when I answer the call.

 I've attempted to configure the Trunk from UCM as both an H.225 Trunk as
 well as an ICT trunk.
 I've unchecked Wait for far end h.245 terminal capability as well.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.







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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

2009-03-23 Thread Joel Jose
well... the mtp option was by default disabled... never thought u might
have enabled it... mostly a busyout after ringing.. occurs as a codec
problem ;)...a rule of thumb i guess..

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:58 PM, ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep, everything started working once I checked off requires MTP on the
 trunk. .

 But why? The call is coming in as g.729 and the device pool the trunk is in
 is set to g.729





 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 If you are getting ring through when you place the call, then your GK
 config is probably OK. If its ringing that tells me the GK sent the call to
 the UCM.

 The fact that it goes fast busy when you pick up sounds like a codec/media
 problem to me. Check the media resources config and your regions.

 Chris

 ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working through scenario , trying to get 4 digit dial from BR2 to HQ
 working via the HQ GK.
 The GK config looks like this.

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCM ipexpert.com http://ipexpert.com 142.1.1.1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 10 Trunk_2
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 9 Trunk_1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 0 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 10 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 0 Trunk_2 Trunk_1
  gw-type-prefix 1#* gw ipaddr 142.2.64.12 1720 gw ipaddr 142.2.64.11 1720
  no shutdown

 I have the UCM registering without a tech-prefix defined and I've
 adjusted the service parameter to insure the UCM listens on port 1720.

 The problem is the call rings through to the HQ DN but comes up fast busy
 when I answer the call.

 I've attempted to configure the Trunk from UCM as both an H.225 Trunk
 as well as an ICT trunk.
 I've unchecked Wait for far end h.245 terminal capability as well.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.








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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

2009-03-23 Thread Joel Jose
no way... he must have meant that.. he off ed it.. and then it worked...
the first case..the signaling went through..but the media must have
terminated at the gateways...

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 Does the call complete as 729 withthe mtp checked?

 --
 From: ccielab...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

 Yep, everything started working once I checked off requires MTP on the
 trunk. .

 But why? The call is coming in as g.729 and the device pool the trunk is in
 is set to g.729





 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 If you are getting ring through when you place the call, then your GK
 config is probably OK. If its ringing that tells me the GK sent the call to
 the UCM.

 The fact that it goes fast busy when you pick up sounds like a codec/media
 problem to me. Check the media resources config and your regions.

 Chris

 ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working through scenario , trying to get 4 digit dial from BR2 to HQ
 working via the HQ GK.
 The GK config looks like this.

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCM ipexpert.com http://ipexpert.com 142.1.1.1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 10 Trunk_2
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 9 Trunk_1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 0 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 10 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 0 Trunk_2 Trunk_1
  gw-type-prefix 1#* gw ipaddr 142.2.64.12 1720 gw ipaddr 142.2.64.11 1720
  no shutdown

 I have the UCM registering without a tech-prefix defined and I've
 adjusted the service parameter to insure the UCM listens on port 1720.

 The problem is the call rings through to the HQ DN but comes up fast busy
 when I answer the call.

 I've attempted to configure the Trunk from UCM as both an H.225 Trunk
 as well as an ICT trunk.
 I've unchecked Wait for far end h.245 terminal capability as well.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.








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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

2009-03-23 Thread Joel Jose
ohh.. i take that back, so CCIELabRat... what was it??.. u had the mtp
on ? or off??.. very curious now to see how it worked..

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 no way... he must have meant that.. he off ed it.. and then it worked...
 the first case..the signaling went through..but the media must have
 terminated at the gateways...


 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote:

 Does the call complete as 729 withthe mtp checked?

 --
 From: ccielab...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Gatekeeper blues :|

 Yep, everything started working once I checked off requires MTP on the
 trunk. .

 But why? The call is coming in as g.729 and the device pool the trunk is
 in is set to g.729





 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.uswrote:

 If you are getting ring through when you place the call, then your GK
 config is probably OK. If its ringing that tells me the GK sent the call to
 the UCM.

 The fact that it goes fast busy when you pick up sounds like a
 codec/media problem to me. Check the media resources config and your
 regions.

 Chris

 ccielab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working through scenario , trying to get 4 digit dial from BR2 to HQ
 working via the HQ GK.
 The GK config looks like this.

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCM ipexpert.com http://ipexpert.com 142.1.1.1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 10 Trunk_2
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 9 Trunk_1
  zone prefix UCM 1... gw-priority 0 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 10 cmegw
  zone prefix UCM 3... gw-priority 0 Trunk_2 Trunk_1
  gw-type-prefix 1#* gw ipaddr 142.2.64.12 1720 gw ipaddr 142.2.64.11
 1720
  no shutdown

 I have the UCM registering without a tech-prefix defined and I've
 adjusted the service parameter to insure the UCM listens on port 1720.

 The problem is the call rings through to the HQ DN but comes up fast
 busy when I answer the call.

 I've attempted to configure the Trunk from UCM as both an H.225 Trunk
 as well as an ICT trunk.
 I've unchecked Wait for far end h.245 terminal capability as well.

 Any help is greatly appreciated.








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Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...

2009-03-23 Thread Joel Jose
yeah sure... thats right i will be complementing my home rack with
online racks... and obviously i wont go in without a comfortable amount of
mocklabs under my belt ;).


was wondering if 1760 was enough for 1 br and HQ it will be quite
inexpensive to fill the vwics that way.. and i can get one nice router..like
3725 /2800 with cue for the other br i know i will have to use 2seperate
routers for pstn(1760) and wan(2600) that way(1760 wont allow both..).



On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Larry Hadrava lhadr...@ipexpert.comwrote:

 Joel:
 Make sure you understand and practice a little with the Etehrswitch module.
 The main thing to remember is that you have to set up the ports as trunk
 ports. Then you set the data vlan and voice vlans as normal.
 I'd at least run through it 3 or 4 times to make sure you can get the
 phones up and registered through the Etherswitch module so you can spend
 just a couple of minutes to configure that piece in the lab. You don't want
 to spend 15 minutes of valuable time trying to get this done on lab day:-)

 Larry Hadrava
 CCIE #12203 CCNP CCNA
 Sr. Support Engineer – IPexpert, Inc.
 URL: http://www.IPexpert.com


 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i'm trying to make a decent lab..., i have an unused 3750 at work.. but it
 has sfp-LH-sfm modules... buying Cat5 compatible modules are gonna be
 expensive... i just got another idea... i also have a 3560 unused... so i a
 thinking of truning between them using the existing SFP GBIC on them... and
 then connecting my whole lab onto the 3560... i still havent made the plan
 completely... but am in the process so any helps would be
 appreciated

 now... i believe the POE configs on all the devices and the Etherswitch
 modules are a piece of cake.. and i dont have to practise..it... may be
 just a few proctorlabs would be enough for it...(if at all)...  I wonder
 what the etherswitch configs would be like... gues it follows the mqcli of
 ios...? hope the lack of it in my lab wont prove costly..

 and lastly... i plan on using only softphones. i will be mainly
 following the topology of proctorlabs.. so that when i purchase the bls it
 will be easier...i hope.. for most part softphones are no dif from the
 hardphones..(except that they dont have some realy stupid issues with the
 headphone and speakerphone buttons.. like some 7960s in my lab..grrr )


 one more thing... i really am getting annoyed nowadays with the slow speed
 of the cucm vmwares... even a 2/3 second waiting when the loading is
 displayed is really adding up and wasting a good portion of my time... when
 i am wanting to do a quick checkup of all the configs.. its a real pain... i
 wish they had a show run... ghaaush... the way out.. is a good highend
 server.. i will think about the configs for runing all the 5 vmwares + 9
 ipphones in a common server

 i plan to get a 3725 for cue+cme... and for the rest br1 and br2 i plan to
 use 3640s...

 any help in the way of ideas would be greatly appreciated...

 joel.





 --
 it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
 Abraham Lincoln





-- 
it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...

2009-03-22 Thread Joel Jose
hy all,

http://htluo.blogspot.com/2009/03/ccie-voice-lab-v3.html?showComment=123777408#c1837891742753148075

looks pretty interesting.. and i am actively pursuing that now i hadnt
noticed that 3750 and 3560 are similar in ios syntaxes... so in that case..
i guess.. i just have to use the 3560 then


joel.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i'm trying to make a decent lab..., i have an unused 3750 at work.. but it
 has sfp-LH-sfm modules... buying Cat5 compatible modules are gonna be
 expensive... i just got another idea... i also have a 3560 unused... so i a
 thinking of truning between them using the existing SFP GBIC on them... and
 then connecting my whole lab onto the 3560... i still havent made the plan
 completely... but am in the process so any helps would be
 appreciated

 now... i believe the POE configs on all the devices and the Etherswitch
 modules are a piece of cake.. and i dont have to practise..it... may be
 just a few proctorlabs would be enough for it...(if at all)...  I wonder
 what the etherswitch configs would be like... gues it follows the mqcli of
 ios...? hope the lack of it in my lab wont prove costly..

 and lastly... i plan on using only softphones. i will be mainly
 following the topology of proctorlabs.. so that when i purchase the bls it
 will be easier...i hope.. for most part softphones are no dif from the
 hardphones..(except that they dont have some realy stupid issues with the
 headphone and speakerphone buttons.. like some 7960s in my lab..grrr )


 one more thing... i really am getting annoyed nowadays with the slow speed
 of the cucm vmwares... even a 2/3 second waiting when the loading is
 displayed is really adding up and wasting a good portion of my time... when
 i am wanting to do a quick checkup of all the configs.. its a real pain... i
 wish they had a show run... ghaaush... the way out.. is a good highend
 server.. i will think about the configs for runing all the 5 vmwares + 9
 ipphones in a common server

 i plan to get a 3725 for cue+cme... and for the rest br1 and br2 i plan to
 use 3640s...

 any help in the way of ideas would be greatly appreciated...

 joel.





 --
 it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
 Abraham Lincoln




-- 
it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...

2009-03-22 Thread Joel Jose
well.., i am thinking of a pretty bad workaroundi dont wanna buy the sfp
trancievers... so i will use the 3500xl poe.. layer2 switch along with the
3750.. i can use trunking and i need only to connect the devices to
3500xl... like the access layer and distribution layer... i know i am just
wasting electricity and even its a bad design but for the labs.. and
studying. i thinks thats ok... the 3560's(have about 4 of them).. are in
very high demand at work...so i cant get them out of thier assignments.. but
a couple of 3750..noone actually cares...its lying in dust..;(..
.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Cliff McGlamry cl...@mcglamry.net wrote:

  Hey Joel,

 The biggest difference between the 3750 and the 3560 is that the 3750 is
 stackable where the 3500 series is not.  I don't believe any of the things
 involved with stacking and synchronizing the stack would be part of the
 voice test, and believe you'd be fine using either one.

 I'm not the official word, but having worked with both, that's my thought.

 Cliff


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:12 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...

 hy all,


 http://htluo.blogspot.com/2009/03/ccie-voice-lab-v3.html?showComment=123777408#c1837891742753148075

 looks pretty interesting.. and i am actively pursuing that now i hadnt
 noticed that 3750 and 3560 are similar in ios syntaxes... so in that case..
 i guess.. i just have to use the 3560 then


 joel.

 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i'm trying to make a decent lab..., i have an unused 3750 at work.. but it
 has sfp-LH-sfm modules... buying Cat5 compatible modules are gonna be
 expensive... i just got another idea... i also have a 3560 unused... so i a
 thinking of truning between them using the existing SFP GBIC on them... and
 then connecting my whole lab onto the 3560... i still havent made the plan
 completely... but am in the process so any helps would be
 appreciated

 now... i believe the POE configs on all the devices and the Etherswitch
 modules are a piece of cake.. and i dont have to practise..it... may be
 just a few proctorlabs would be enough for it...(if at all)...  I wonder
 what the etherswitch configs would be like... gues it follows the mqcli of
 ios...? hope the lack of it in my lab wont prove costly..

 and lastly... i plan on using only softphones. i will be mainly
 following the topology of proctorlabs.. so that when i purchase the bls it
 will be easier...i hope.. for most part softphones are no dif from the
 hardphones..(except that they dont have some realy stupid issues with the
 headphone and speakerphone buttons.. like some 7960s in my lab..grrr )


 one more thing... i really am getting annoyed nowadays with the slow speed
 of the cucm vmwares... even a 2/3 second waiting when the loading is
 displayed is really adding up and wasting a good portion of my time... when
 i am wanting to do a quick checkup of all the configs.. its a real pain... i
 wish they had a show run... ghaaush... the way out.. is a good highend
 server.. i will think about the configs for runing all the 5 vmwares + 9
 ipphones in a common server

 i plan to get a 3725 for cue+cme... and for the rest br1 and br2 i plan to
 use 3640s...

 any help in the way of ideas would be greatly appreciated...

 joel.





 --
 it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
 Abraham Lincoln




 --
 it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
 Abraham Lincoln




-- 
it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln


[OSL | CCIE_Voice] v3.0 personal lab quest...

2009-03-21 Thread Joel Jose
i'm trying to make a decent lab..., i have an unused 3750 at work.. but it
has sfp-LH-sfm modules... buying Cat5 compatible modules are gonna be
expensive... i just got another idea... i also have a 3560 unused... so i a
thinking of truning between them using the existing SFP GBIC on them... and
then connecting my whole lab onto the 3560... i still havent made the plan
completely... but am in the process so any helps would be
appreciated

now... i believe the POE configs on all the devices and the Etherswitch
modules are a piece of cake.. and i dont have to practise..it... may be
just a few proctorlabs would be enough for it...(if at all)...  I wonder
what the etherswitch configs would be like... gues it follows the mqcli of
ios...? hope the lack of it in my lab wont prove costly..

and lastly... i plan on using only softphones. i will be mainly
following the topology of proctorlabs.. so that when i purchase the bls it
will be easier...i hope.. for most part softphones are no dif from the
hardphones..(except that they dont have some realy stupid issues with the
headphone and speakerphone buttons.. like some 7960s in my lab..grrr )


one more thing... i really am getting annoyed nowadays with the slow speed
of the cucm vmwares... even a 2/3 second waiting when the loading is
displayed is really adding up and wasting a good portion of my time... when
i am wanting to do a quick checkup of all the configs.. its a real pain... i
wish they had a show run... ghaaush... the way out.. is a good highend
server.. i will think about the configs for runing all the 5 vmwares + 9
ipphones in a common server

i plan to get a 3725 for cue+cme... and for the rest br1 and br2 i plan to
use 3640s...

any help in the way of ideas would be greatly appreciated...

joel.





-- 
it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] inter cluster trunk--- gatekeeper controlled

2009-03-18 Thread Joel Jose
uhhh...,

i tried interclustertrunk with gatekeeper... i guess the tech-prefix has
become right after i prefixed the 1# at routepattern for called number...
instead of callednumbernotregistered .. i now get a disengagement packet...
still no news of endpoint ringing... ;(... after the disengagement the
endpoints re-register..(which ithink keeps happening evry now and then)...

gatekeeper has 2 zones... GW1 and GW2.. my cucms register as GW1_1 and
GW2_1.. and they register i correct zone with correct e.164 tech prefix :
GW1 has 1#* and GW2 has 2#*.
i first tried prefixing 1# to all calls from GW1.. and 2# to all calls from
GW2. But later realised the mistake and then made 2# to all calls from GW1
and 1# to all calls from GW2. When i did this...modification.. i got the
sameold errorCalledNumberNotRegistered.. huh.. at which point i decided to
google but still no help...so i posted it here again.. ;(

in a networkworld article i saw that gk controlled ict was superceeded by gk
controlled h225 trunk..may be i should hav used that??... i will try with
that today again... but..guys... any idea abt this prob??



joel.


On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks a lot people...

 yeah so my guess was right abt the second problem.. i need a cube. so ur
 additionally saying that i dont need a seperate cube and that i can do the
 cube config on the 2 h.323 gateways itself(those having that voip
 dial-peers)..k will look that today.


 and thanks again for the techprefix help... i did dial with the
 techprefix... maybe the routepattern was wrong. now i'll just prefix it
 in the routelist..

 will be labbing those today.. and will post about the success(hopefully)..


 joel.


 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com wrote:

  Joel,
 Your 1st problem: configure tech-prefix under DP config
 !
 dial-peer voice 1001 voip
 destination-pattern DN
 session target ras
 tech-prefix number
 !
 - this will auto-prepend DN with tech-prefix when sending ARQ to GK.

 Your 2nd problem: to forward calls between two H.323 VoIP dialpeers you
 need
 !
 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323
 !
 Rgds
 Alex

 - Original Message -
  *From:* Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:06 AM
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] inter cluster trunk--- gatekeeper
 controlled

 i see that there are 2 options..for gatekeeper with cucm...  either h225
 gatekeeper controlled trunk and ict gatekeeper controlled.

 when doing either of these... i do successfully register my cucms as GW1
 and GW2 zones.. but i always get ARJ. Debug showed that the e.164 called
 numbers haven't been registered so the ARJ is sent. i assume that voip calls
 are routed on basis of tech prefixeseven though the tech prefix was
 correctly associated with the registered cucms,... i havent been able to
 send an outgoing call with a techprefix...always my called number is taken
 as an e.164 number.. yeah.. i dont know to send a tech prefix


 i have a second problem... am trying to use h.323 gateway with cucm... i
 use distributed model... i debuged and discovered that calls cannot happen
 over more than 1 hop. the voip dial-peer cannot route call beyond a single
 hop... within a single hop i can make the call go through the h.323
 gateway(ie. like a single site deployment) i am now thinking that a cube
 is needed for a 1 hop of h.323 voip dial-peer...


 --
 it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
 Abraham Lincoln




 --
 it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
 Abraham Lincoln




-- 
it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] inter cluster trunk--- gatekeeper controlled

2009-03-18 Thread Joel Jose
uh,

first of all i made a huge mistake by not configuring translation patterns
to remove the incoming dialed tech prefixes...

secondly.. i made a mess of the * conventions cisco follows(err...or not
follows)... i honestly cant understand why they treat * in
one place as simply a keypad star  and in other place as all or
nothing..ughhh... g...

and with the advice of prefixing the techprefix everything seemed to
fit...


now i got it working... the h225 gatekeeperr controlled trunk... connecting
2 cucm6.0 deployments... ;)

i am sure that ict gatekeeper controlled must also be similar... so no need
to check...(i'll check that if asked in lab... hee just joking)



joel.




On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com wrote:

  Joel,
 I doubt you will see GK-controlled ICT in the lab. Simply because there is
 just 1 cluster (1 PUB and 1 SUB) there.
 I suggest you concentrate on GK-controlled H.225 trunk between H.323 IOS
 gateways and CCM, this is a core topic you should master 100%.
 If you are doing it as part of your job then there is another Cisco VoIP
 mailing list which is frequented by Cisco support guys as well as real-life
 VoIP experts who should be able to get you up to speed with the
 GK-controlled ICT in every little detail cisco-v...@puck.nether.net
 Send an email to this address and you will get an email in return
 explaining how to join.
 Rgds
 Alex

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com
 *To:* Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com
 *Cc:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:14 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] inter cluster trunk--- gatekeeper
 controlled

 uhhh...,

 i tried interclustertrunk with gatekeeper... i guess the tech-prefix has
 become right after i prefixed the 1# at routepattern for called number...
 instead of callednumbernotregistered .. i now get a disengagement packet...
 still no news of endpoint ringing... ;(... after the disengagement the
 endpoints re-register..(which ithink keeps happening evry now and then)...

 gatekeeper has 2 zones... GW1 and GW2.. my cucms register as GW1_1 and
 GW2_1.. and they register i correct zone with correct e.164 tech prefix :
 GW1 has 1#* and GW2 has 2#*.
 i first tried prefixing 1# to all calls from GW1.. and 2# to all calls from
 GW2. But later realised the mistake and then made 2# to all calls from GW1
 and 1# to all calls from GW2. When i did this...modification.. i got the
 sameold errorCalledNumberNotRegistered.. huh.. at which point i decided to
 google but still no help...so i posted it here again.. ;(

 in a networkworld article i saw that gk controlled ict was superceeded by
 gk controlled h225 trunk..may be i should hav used that??... i will try with
 that today again... but..guys... any idea abt this prob??



 joel.


 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks a lot people...

 yeah so my guess was right abt the second problem.. i need a cube. so ur
 additionally saying that i dont need a seperate cube and that i can do the
 cube config on the 2 h.323 gateways itself(those having that voip
 dial-peers)..k will look that today.


 and thanks again for the techprefix help... i did dial with the
 techprefix... maybe the routepattern was wrong. now i'll just prefix it
 in the routelist..

 will be labbing those today.. and will post about the success(hopefully)..


 joel.


 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com wrote:

  Joel,
 Your 1st problem: configure tech-prefix under DP config
 !
 dial-peer voice 1001 voip
 destination-pattern DN
 session target ras
 tech-prefix number
 !
 - this will auto-prepend DN with tech-prefix when sending ARQ to GK.

 Your 2nd problem: to forward calls between two H.323 VoIP dialpeers you
 need
 !
 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323
 !
 Rgds
 Alex

  - Original Message -
 *From:* Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
  *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:06 AM
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] inter cluster trunk--- gatekeeper
 controlled

  i see that there are 2 options..for gatekeeper with cucm...  either
 h225 gatekeeper controlled trunk and ict gatekeeper controlled.

 when doing either of these... i do successfully register my cucms as GW1
 and GW2 zones.. but i always get ARJ. Debug showed that the e.164 called
 numbers haven't been registered so the ARJ is sent. i assume that voip calls
 are routed on basis of tech prefixeseven though the tech prefix was
 correctly associated with the registered cucms,... i havent been able to
 send an outgoing call with a techprefix...always my called number is taken
 as an e.164 number.. yeah.. i dont know to send a tech prefix


 i have a second problem... am trying to use h.323 gateway with cucm... i
 use distributed model... i debuged and discovered that calls cannot happen
 over more than 1 hop. the voip dial-peer cannot

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] inter cluster trunk--- gatekeeper controlled

2009-03-14 Thread Joel Jose
i see that there are 2 options..for gatekeeper with cucm...  either h225
gatekeeper controlled trunk and ict gatekeeper controlled.

when doing either of these... i do successfully register my cucms as GW1 and
GW2 zones.. but i always get ARJ. Debug showed that the e.164 called
numbers haven't been registered so the ARJ is sent. i assume that voip calls
are routed on basis of tech prefixeseven though the tech prefix was
correctly associated with the registered cucms,... i havent been able to
send an outgoing call with a techprefix...always my called number is taken
as an e.164 number.. yeah.. i dont know to send a tech prefix


i have a second problem... am trying to use h.323 gateway with cucm... i use
distributed model... i debuged and discovered that calls cannot happen over
more than 1 hop. the voip dial-peer cannot route call beyond a single
hop... within a single hop i can make the call go through the h.323
gateway(ie. like a single site deployment) i am now thinking that a cube
is needed for a 1 hop of h.323 voip dial-peer...


-- 
it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] inter cluster trunk--- gatekeeper controlled

2009-03-14 Thread Joel Jose
thanks a lot people...

yeah so my guess was right abt the second problem.. i need a cube. so ur
additionally saying that i dont need a seperate cube and that i can do the
cube config on the 2 h.323 gateways itself(those having that voip
dial-peers)..k will look that today.


and thanks again for the techprefix help... i did dial with the
techprefix... maybe the routepattern was wrong. now i'll just prefix it
in the routelist..

will be labbing those today.. and will post about the success(hopefully)..


joel.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com wrote:

  Joel,
 Your 1st problem: configure tech-prefix under DP config
 !
 dial-peer voice 1001 voip
 destination-pattern DN
 session target ras
 tech-prefix number
 !
 - this will auto-prepend DN with tech-prefix when sending ARQ to GK.

 Your 2nd problem: to forward calls between two H.323 VoIP dialpeers you
 need
 !
 voice service voip
 allow-connections h323 to h323
 !
 Rgds
 Alex

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com
 *To:* ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:06 AM
 *Subject:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] inter cluster trunk--- gatekeeper controlled

 i see that there are 2 options..for gatekeeper with cucm...  either h225
 gatekeeper controlled trunk and ict gatekeeper controlled.

 when doing either of these... i do successfully register my cucms as GW1
 and GW2 zones.. but i always get ARJ. Debug showed that the e.164 called
 numbers haven't been registered so the ARJ is sent. i assume that voip calls
 are routed on basis of tech prefixeseven though the tech prefix was
 correctly associated with the registered cucms,... i havent been able to
 send an outgoing call with a techprefix...always my called number is taken
 as an e.164 number.. yeah.. i dont know to send a tech prefix


 i have a second problem... am trying to use h.323 gateway with cucm... i
 use distributed model... i debuged and discovered that calls cannot happen
 over more than 1 hop. the voip dial-peer cannot route call beyond a single
 hop... within a single hop i can make the call go through the h.323
 gateway(ie. like a single site deployment) i am now thinking that a cube
 is needed for a 1 hop of h.323 voip dial-peer...


 --
 it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
 Abraham Lincoln




-- 
it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly dtmf,fax,modem relay question

2009-03-06 Thread Joel Jose
thanks to vik and david and ofcourse cliff ;-)

i am still reading about this topic.. and i have to do this in between my
other topics like cme and cue.. and mpls qos.. hmmm... i find it
inefficient to finish one topic and then go on to next.. i tried it a
couple times but failed miserably at it... so now its all parallel.. or at
least following the database people's conventions : consistently
concurrent ;)

anyway.. comming back to the discussion.., yes i now understand that the
out of band means seperate flow/stream. and not necessarily a seperate
ds0 channel. thanks guys for pointing that out... and more importantly...
that only in the voip call leg is this feature ever implemented.

thanks a lot... ;) i really.. wish world was filled with digital
interfaces.. those analogue ones ought to be banned/abolished.. ;) that
way..the costs too would come down.. to procure them...  Anyway, cisco's
v3.0 blueprint is looking very promising in that respect ;)


thanks again people...

joel.



On 3/5/09, David Simes david.si...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joel,

 I re-read the text and here's what I got.  Channels in the DTMF-relay
 context is referring to logical IP channels such as an RTP stream or H.245
 session.  The DTMF tone is transmitted out of band meaning it travels in a
 separate IP flow than the RTP voice stream.  The out of band channel isn't
 referring to a separate DS0 channel.  The analog vic-2fxs interface does
 carry DTMF but its all analog.  DMTF-relay is used in the IP part of the
 network to solve the problem of codec compression distorting the DTMF tone.


 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:

 i was reading about the rfc2833 dtmf support. one doubt really got me
 thinking... i hope its not too silly for this group.. incase its too
 silly, then i have hey its in the blueprint excuse ;)

 so when we use dtmf relay.. or any relay..say modem or fax.. when mean
 out band, we mean atleast 2 channels right?? one for the usual rtp
 and the other for the fax,modem,dtmf channel right??

 So in vic-2fxs we shouldnt be able to do relay right??. but cisco says
 we can.


 Before Cisco IOS Release 12.4(6)XE, SCCP gateways supported fax
 passthrough only. In Cisco IOS Release 12.4(6)XE and later releases,
 SCCP Gateway Controlled Fax Relay adds support 

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/voice/fxs/configuration/guide/fxsrelay.html#wp1049432


 well... i am just a little confused as to how do we do out of band
 if there are no more than one channel?? i am sure by now that my
 understanding of outofband is also flawed... do correct me.


 joel.

 --
 it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your
 years. Abraham Lincoln





-- 
it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
Abraham Lincoln


[OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly dtmf,fax,modem relay question

2009-03-04 Thread Joel Jose
i was reading about the rfc2833 dtmf support. one doubt really got me
thinking... i hope its not too silly for this group.. incase its too
silly, then i have hey its in the blueprint excuse ;)

so when we use dtmf relay.. or any relay..say modem or fax.. when mean
out band, we mean atleast 2 channels right?? one for the usual rtp
and the other for the fax,modem,dtmf channel right??

So in vic-2fxs we shouldnt be able to do relay right??. but cisco says we can.


Before Cisco IOS Release 12.4(6)XE, SCCP gateways supported fax
passthrough only. In Cisco IOS Release 12.4(6)XE and later releases,
SCCP Gateway Controlled Fax Relay adds support 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/voice/fxs/configuration/guide/fxsrelay.html#wp1049432


well... i am just a little confused as to how do we do out of band
if there are no more than one channel?? i am sure by now that my
understanding of outofband is also flawed... do correct me.


joel.

-- 
it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your
years. Abraham Lincoln


Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly GK registration failures..

2009-03-02 Thread Joel Jose
well thanks for the help,

Now i am a clumsy, slow learner.. so may be a little more reads would
make it clearer for me... but i thought i'll just shoot it here with
what i got from my first reading hope thats ok...


step1) So the Tech-prefix will get absolute priority over anyother, if
it happens to be the configured hopoff.

step2) Otherwise, the target zone is selected based on the zone
prefix..(practically a.k.a E.164 DNIS portion). stripped off
tech-prefix is still kept in memory for worstcase senario.

step3) Otherwise, if there does not exist a  matching zone prefix, and
a arj-reject-unkown-prefix is not set, then the source zone is made
the target zone. else ARJ is sent

step4) If The target zone(chosen by step 2 or 3)has the registered
E.164 address endpoint, the call will be routed to that GW. But if
there is no matching registered E.164 endpoint, then tech-prefix that
was stored in memory will be taken and a GW based on the tech prefix
will be chosen.

step5) If there was no matching Tech-prefix, then a default tech
prefix is looked, if it exists then that GW is selected. else ARJ is
sent.

step6) IF there is any problem with anything..(GK parameters like
admission control..etc)the ARJ is sent other wise ACF with the
selected GW ip is sent back to the source GW.



Now just one thing remains to be clarified How does the source
zone/ ARQ contain the tech-prefix?? .. eg, for tech-prefix 1#  :
we should prefix 1# in ras dial-peer??


thanks Mark for taking ur valuable time off, for this silly GK thread.. ;)

joel.






 From: Mark Snow ms...@ipexpert.com
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly GK registration failures..
 To: Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com
 Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 9:59 PM

 Hey Joel,

 Neither Zone Prefix nor Tech Prefix has any sort of priority over
 one another - they are simply evaluated at different points in the flowchart
 of
 decision making for Address Resolution for an ARQ (Admission
 Request).

 Attached is flowchart (found on pg 510 of the latest UCM 7 SRND) and you can
 see here that the first thing to occur is to see if any of the digits in the
 DNIS starting from the left and moving toward the right happen to match any
 set
 of digits found registered to the GK as a Tech Prefix. It makes now
 difference
 to the GK what the Tech Prefix is, nor how long it is, nor if it has a
 # separator or not.

 Once that Tech Prefix is matched, it is stripped (not ultimately - the TGW
 will
 still receive it - but insomuch that the rest of the flowchart and analysis
 engine can correctly process the remainder of the DNIS).
 So the remainder of the DNIS (minus the Tech Prefix) is then evaluated to
 see
 if it matches a Zone Prefix - then a decision is made as to what the
 Destination
 Zone should be matched (based on the Zone Prefix) to then attempt to find a
 GW
 in that outbound Zone based on everything else that is found (such as
 possibly,
 but not necessarily: Tech Prefix; Alias (H323-ID and/or E164 Num)).

 The main job of the Zone Prefix is to see if a match can be made to
 determine
 the Destination Zone (a.k.a Outbound Zone or Target Zone) to find a TGW in
 to
 ultimately go back and tell the OGW to send the call to. Once it determines
 what
 the Destination Zone should be, and then the the rest of the flowchart
 determines which set of TGWs are eligible to take the call, it then also
 pulls
 double duty to determine of the possible TGWs available - WHICH one should
 be
 used in what priority fashion.


 Hope maybe this helps some?


 Cheers,

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 On Mar 2, 2009, at 2:32 AM, Joel Jose wrote:

 Actually if you use tech prefixes and give your various locations
 different
 zone names, it will make your dial plan (and the gatekeeper maintenance) a
 lot simpler.

 yeah i know gatekeepers help(no one else can) in distributed multisite
 configurations.. i just wanted clarity on the manner in which tech
 prefix works. Ive heard  that E.164 zone prefix has more priority
 than tech prefix. I assume that default tech prefix means just like a
 default gateway.. to match if no other specified tech prefixes
 match. And hopoff will entirely change the whole scenario-- it short
 circuits the whole GK Zone routing logic and hence used in case of
 temp(emergency) routing when outage occurs.

 I am sure my knowledge abt this may be flawed.. as i havent labbed it
 yet(how to lab tech-prefix??). i havent understood how

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly GK registration failures..

2009-03-01 Thread Joel Jose
Gotcha!!!

thanks a lot... your final post nailed the error i got..  thanks a lot

though i know the textbook concept of tech prefix... ive never
understood the proper flow... have u tried any real scenario that
makes use of tech prefix for routing??.. could u suggest one that i
could simulate??. The most important fact i dont get is.. how doe the
originating call convey its tech prefix choice to the gatekeeper??..
is it prefixed by the gateway before forwarding for ARQ.. or is it
dialed by user from the phone(in this case the route patterns need
to be customized right??)?? ... may be i got the concept all wrong...


thanks again for the debugs and solutions anyway... could have really
got into the mad with cisco state if i had lingered around it for a
couple more time... on myself... ;)


joel.


On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:
 oh firstly thanks a lot for reply,

 i will look that when i get to my rack at work.. that will be tomo. I
 now assume the problem to be with the configured pots dial peers. so
 maybe be removing them all... except leaving the necessary ones..may
 do it... i have little hope in that..coz.. i remember doing cleanly
 and still ending up on the wrong side... but ur duplicate id
 explanation is worth checking out.

 thanks again.. i will give updated reply tomo when i try it out. btw
 if u find any good resource on tech-prefix.. do forward a link to
 me... thanks..


 joel.


 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Cliff McGlamry cl...@mcglamry.net wrote:
 Joel,

 I'm starting to sense dejavu here.  I was firing up my gatekeeper this
 morning (and it worked yesterday).  Made no configuration changesand got
 exactly the same thing you were describing.

 I set up a couple of debugs on the gateway.  I used debug h225 asn1 and
 debug ras.

 This allowed me to see the reject message coming back from the gatekeeper.
 I was getting this:


 value RasMessage ::= registrationReject :
   {
    requestSeqNum 2994
    protocolIdentifier { 0 0 8 2250 0 3 }
    rejectReason invalidAlias : NULL
    gatekeeperIdentifier {UCME}
   }

 I scratched my head on this because it was defined correctly (it worked last
 night).  So, I went over to my gatekeeper, shut it down, and removed all
 configuration.  I added back ONLY the zone local for the UCME router.  Went
 back to UCME did a no gateway followed by a gateway, and it immediately
 registered up.

 Odd.  I went back and changed my h323-id to include the @ symbol to retest
 what I thought I had figured out.  Shutdown both gatekeeper and gateway,
 brought them back upand it had no issue with the @.  Guess that was a
 bad call on my part.

 At this point, my gatekeeper config looked like this:

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCME ccm.lab 10.50.1.1
  no shutdown

 I then took and added back in my zone prefix for UCM.  So now the gatekeeper
 looks like this:

 gatekeeper
  zone local UCME ccm.lab 10.50.1.1
  zone local UCM ccm.lab
  zone prefix UCM 1*
  no shutdown

 The gateway stays registered.  I let it run for a while.  But when I
 unregister and then reregister, it FAILS.

 So, I'm wondering what the heck is going on.  In doing some additional
 research, I find that the invalidAlias response can be a coupld of things,
 but usually has something to do with a duplicate ID value.  When I looked on
 the gatekeeper to see the endpoints, I see this:

 GK(config-gk)#do sh gateke end
                    GATEKEEPER ENDPOINT REGISTRATION
                    
 CallSignalAddr  Port  RASSignalAddr   Port  Zone Name         Type    Flags
 --- - --- - -             -
 10.50.1.2       1720  10.50.1.2       49668 UCME              H323-GW
    H323-ID: b...@ccm.lab
    E164-ID: 3001
    E164-ID: 3002
    E164-ID: 3003
    E164-ID: 3010
    E164-ID: 1234   ===   Check this one out
    E164-ID: 3210
    Voice Capacity Max.=  Avail.=  Current.= 0
 Total number of active registrations = 1

 Now remember, the only thing I'd changed since the last rinse and repeat was
 that I added a zone prefix for the other zone of 1*.  Now, the 1234 E164 ID
 is left over from something else, but I'm thinkingokaymaybe...

 So, the specific DN involved looks like this:

 ephone-dn  20  dual-line
  number 1234
  call-forward all 2345

 Let's set it not to register.  So, I reconfigure the DN like this:

 ephone-dn  20  dual-line
  number 1234 no-reg
  call-forward all 2345

 BANG!  Gateway registered up.  Boy did I learn some things from this
 exercise.  Moral of this story for me is (1) check the gateway to see why
 it's rejecting.  (2) look for overlapping E164 numbers against your zone
 prefixes and (3) reassembling the gatekeeper one step at a time is helpful.
 Interestingly, if you leave the debugs running when you add in the zone
 prefix for CCM, they do change.  Not particularly user friendly, but it
 seems to tell you that if it shuts down, it won't

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly GK registration failures..

2009-03-01 Thread Joel Jose
Actually if you use tech prefixes and give your various locations different
zone names, it will make your dial plan (and the gatekeeper maintenance) a
lot simpler.

yeah i know gatekeepers help(no one else can) in distributed multisite
configurations.. i just wanted clarity on the manner in which tech
prefix works. Ive heard  that E.164 zone prefix has more priority
than tech prefix. I assume that default tech prefix means just like a
default gateway.. to match if no other specified tech prefixes
match. And hopoff will entirely change the whole scenario-- it short
circuits the whole GK Zone routing logic and hence used in case of
temp(emergency) routing when outage occurs.

I am sure my knowledge abt this may be flawed.. as i havent labbed it
yet(how to lab tech-prefix??). i havent understood how the tech prefix
really gets associated with an incoming call(ARQ) as far as the GK is
concerned. Calls coming with tech prefix or from a   gateway
having a certain tech prefix will be matched against the
corresponding tech prefix zone as configured in the GK ?? . Users will
dial it along with the number or gateway will prefix it(from dial-peer
config)??... Also will read up the srnds... as for ipexpert bls... i
will purchase it only after my written(within 2 week hopefully).

I guess its for me to find out.. ;).. i will and post it here and my
blog afterwards..

thanks,
joel (bravingallodds.blogspot.com).


On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Cliff McGlamry cl...@mcglamry.net wrote:
 Actually, once I got Mark's explanation of it, it makes perfect sense (to me
 anyway).

 If you'll pull the CCM 4.1 SRND, there is a flowchart on page 10-40 that
 shows how call processing works within a gatekeeper.

 Actually if you use tech prefixes and give your various locations different
 zone names, it will make your dial plan (and the gatekeeper maintenance) a
 lot simpler.

 As far as situations where you might use thissure.  I know of a company
 that has 6 locations around the country.  Each site has around 500 people at
 it.  They *could* just build inter cluster trunks between all of themand
 for a while they did that.  But they were getting clobbered on the WAN
 because they didn't have any way of tracking how much bandwidth was in use.
 A gatekeeper can fix this.  It also simplifies things because you don't have
 to set up routing to all the other sites.just to the gatekeeper.  And as
 long as you have a well designed dial plan, you're managing the inter site
 routing from a single location.

 Mark Snow did a video lecture on this subject as part of the package
 IPExpert put together (and that's where I got it).  But they have some
 lectures posted to the web also where anyone can access them.  Go here:

 http://www.ipexpert.com/index.cfm/a/p/vlectures

 There is a lecture on H323 gatekeeper basics.  I haven't viewed this one,
 but all the ones I've seen have been outstanding in terms of content and
 worth the time to watch.

 Cliff




 - Original Message -
 From: Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com
 To: Cliff McGlamry cl...@mcglamry.net; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly GK registration failures..


 Gotcha!!!

 thanks a lot... your final post nailed the error i got..  thanks a lot

 though i know the textbook concept of tech prefix... ive never
 understood the proper flow... have u tried any real scenario that
 makes use of tech prefix for routing??.. could u suggest one that i
 could simulate??. The most important fact i dont get is.. how doe the
 originating call convey its tech prefix choice to the gatekeeper??..
 is it prefixed by the gateway before forwarding for ARQ.. or is it
 dialed by user from the phone(in this case the route patterns need
 to be customized right??)?? ... may be i got the concept all wrong...


 thanks again for the debugs and solutions anyway... could have really
 got into the mad with cisco state if i had lingered around it for a
 couple more time... on myself... ;)


 joel.


 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Joel Jose joeljose...@gmail.com wrote:
 oh firstly thanks a lot for reply,

 i will look that when i get to my rack at work.. that will be tomo. I
 now assume the problem to be with the configured pots dial peers. so
 maybe be removing them all... except leaving the necessary ones..may
 do it... i have little hope in that..coz.. i remember doing cleanly
 and still ending up on the wrong side... but ur duplicate id
 explanation is worth checking out.

 thanks again.. i will give updated reply tomo when i try it out. btw
 if u find any good resource on tech-prefix.. do forward a link to
 me... thanks..


 joel.


 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Cliff McGlamry cl...@mcglamry.net
 wrote:
 Joel,

 I'm starting to sense dejavu here. I was firing up my gatekeeper this
 morning (and it worked yesterday). Made no configuration changesand
 got
 exactly the same thing you were describing.

 I

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] silly GK registration failures..

2009-02-28 Thread Joel Jose
This is not the first time i am configuring Gatekeepers... but often i
do get registration errors.. and i usually do troubleshoot them
but this time.. its looking impossible.. could you people please throw
some insight?? thanks a lot.

GW1 and GW2 appear to try and register to GW1 gatekeeper and GW2
gatekeeper respectively... I get failures saying those are rejected..
and i also debug ras on GK..and it shows that its sending RRJs to
the request from both these gateways... when i make h323-gateway voip
id GK ipaddr 1.1.1.1 they both register successfully... but thats not
the right thing right??... i usually do something and get it right..
but these few days its not coming right at all...


GK:

gatekeeper
 zone local GW2 logic.com 1.1.1.1
 zone local GK logic.com
 zone local GW1 logic.com
 zone prefix GW1 1...
 zone prefix GW2 2...
 no shutdown


GW1 :

interface Loopback0
 ip address 7.7.7.7 255.255.255.0
 h323-gateway voip interface
 h323-gateway voip id GW1 ipaddr 1.1.1.1 1719
 h323-gateway voip h323-id g...@logic.com
 h323-gateway voip tech-prefix 1#
 h323-gateway voip bind srcaddr 7.7.7.7


GW2 :
interface Loopback0
 ip address 6.6.6.6 255.255.255.0
 h323-gateway voip interface
 h323-gateway voip id GW2 ipaddr 1.1.1.1 1719
 h323-gateway voip h323-id g...@logic.com
 h323-gateway voip tech-prefix 1#
 h323-gateway voip bind srcaddr 6.6.6.6



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