Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
Agreed with your logic, but in your first example (calling HQ phone from BR1 Phone using local gateway), shouldn't the calling party be Subscriber (BR1 phone calling out from BR1 GW)? cheers, sd From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Shrini Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:28 PM To: Tamer Ismail Cc: 'CCIE Study' Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Called and Calling party number type will be always referenced with the GW you are using. Examples: If you are calling HQ phone from BR1 Phone using local gateway. Called party is National (because you are sending 10 digits for national call) agreed calling party is national. ??? If calling BR1 PSTN from BR1 phone using local gateway Called - Subscriber Calling - Subscriber If BR1 phone calling HQ PSTN using HQ GW Calling is National Called is Subscriber Yes this is confusing, but always use the GW you are using as reference. On 3/3/2011 3:30 AM, Tamer Ismail wrote: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. or National ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
Hi Steeve, I agree with you. I am also confused in this type of scenario for calling number. When you are sending 10 digits as calling party number it will be National number. Even if I set the number type as subscriber , on the called side the type changes to National (because on PSTN router we have voice xlation rule for 10 digit as National) I am calling a National number and the reciever is getting a call from a National number. It is set to subscriber. Usually I leave it to Call Manager to decide. Thanks Shrini On 3/7/2011 5:01 AM, Steve Denney (stdenney) wrote: Agreed with your logic, but in your first example (calling HQ phone from BR1 Phone using local gateway), shouldn't the calling party be Subscriber (BR1 phone calling out from BR1 GW)? cheers, sd *From:*ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] *On Behalf Of *Shrini *Sent:* Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:28 PM *To:* Tamer Ismail *Cc:* 'CCIE Study' *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Called and Calling party number type will be always referenced with the GW you are using. Examples: If you are calling HQ phone from BR1 Phone using local gateway. Called party is National (because you are sending 10 digits for national call) agreed calling party is national.??? If calling BR1 PSTN from BR1 phone using local gateway Called - Subscriber Calling - Subscriber If BR1 phone calling HQ PSTN using HQ GW Calling is National Called is Subscriber Yes this is confusing, but always use the GW you are using as reference. On 3/3/2011 3:30 AM, Tamer Ismail wrote: Calling Party Number Type to: *Subscriber**. or **National* ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
Called and Calling party number type will be always referenced with the GW you are using. Examples: If you are calling HQ phone from BR1 Phone using local gateway. Called party is National (because you are sending 10 digits for national call) calling party is national. If calling BR1 PSTN from BR1 phone using local gateway Called - Subscriber Calling - Subscriber If BR1 phone calling HQ PSTN using HQ GW Calling is National Called is Subscriber Yes this is confusing, but always use the GW you are using as reference. On 3/3/2011 3:30 AM, Tamer Ismail wrote: Calling Party Number Type to: *Subscriber. or National* ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
Thank you all, I know that debug will help me to make sure that I am sending the configured values. but not this is not my concern. I need to know how to set these values? is there any rule I should follow or not? From: Matthew Berry matt...@ciscovoiceguru.com To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 4:38:15 AM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type For sure, Adam! debug isdn q931 was my best friend in the lab. A close runner-up is debug voip dialpeer to make sure the correct dial-peer is being selected. Thanks! Matthew Berry, CCIE #26721 (Voice) Email: thematthewbe...@gmail.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/CiscoVoiceGuru Tech Blog: http://ciscovoiceguru.com On 3/3/11 6:23 PM, adam compton wrote: If you run debug isdn q931 on the gateway the call is going out, you can confirm what Call Manager is sending to the PSTN. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you all for your reply, I just need to know if the PSTN router in the LAB will accept the call or no if it is not set to the proper value. If the PSTN router will not accept the call then it is OK I can play with these values and solve the problem. But the problem if the PSTN router accepts all calls based on called party number and later on the proctor will check if you set the values correctly or not. for me what I understood before is the way that Roger sent. (thank you Roger) Regards, From: Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se To: Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:41:12 PM Subject: SV: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi, You need to look at this from the originating endpoint and the outgoing gateway. For a more detailed explanation see my response in line with your mail. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE #26199 (Voice) Consultant CygateAB Eric Perssons väg 21, SE-217 62 MALMÖ Från: Ccie Voice [v.c...@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 3 mars 2011 02:49 Till: CCIE Study Ämne: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. This is correct What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriberor National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Long Distance, using BR1 Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriberor National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a remote site , aka it's national Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a local phone, aka it's subscriber Long Distance, backup for BR1 using HQ Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriberor National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national Regards
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
As other have answered, if needed you will be instructed in the lab material how these settings should be set. That's about all that anyone can say about this, and other stuff covered in the lab, without breaking the NDA. As a side note, Vik Malhi and Amy Ryan recommendation about this on the boot-camp were that you always should do whatever the lab material states, pretty obvious :), and if nothing is stated you should set it to the proper value for that type of call. This applies to both Type of number (TON) and Number plan information (NPI). The later is mostly set to ISDN, if nothing else is said. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE # 26199 (Voice) Unified Communication Consultant Cygate AB From: Ccie Voice [mailto:v.c...@yahoo.com] Sent: den 3 mars 2011 19:52 To: CCIE Study Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Thank you all for your reply, I just need to know if the PSTN router in the LAB will accept the call or no if it is not set to the proper value. If the PSTN router will not accept the call then it is OK I can play with these values and solve the problem. But the problem if the PSTN router accepts all calls based on called party number and later on the proctor will check if you set the values correctly or not. for me what I understood before is the way that Roger sent. (thank you Roger) Regards, From: Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se To: Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:41:12 PM Subject: SV: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi, You need to look at this from the originating endpoint and the outgoing gateway. For a more detailed explanation see my response in line with your mail. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE #26199 (Voice) Consultant Cygate AB Eric Perssons väg 21, SE-217 62 MALMÖ Från: Ccie Voice [v.c...@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 3 mars 2011 02:49 Till: CCIE Study Ämne: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. This is correct What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Long Distance, using BR1 Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a remote site , aka it's national Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a local phone, aka it's subscriber Long Distance, backup for BR1 using HQ Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
I agree with Roger's response 100%, with one small comment: If nothing is stated in the lab, then do not waste time configuring any of those settings. Extra or best practice configuration, if not required, will not get you any points. If it's not in the lab, then it is not a requirement, and hence it does not matter what values are set. Just be sure you have read the question *completely* and understand exactly what is being asked for. :) cheers, sd From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Roger Källberg Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:54 AM To: Ccie Voice; CCIE Study Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type As other have answered, if needed you will be instructed in the lab material how these settings should be set. That's about all that anyone can say about this, and other stuff covered in the lab, without breaking the NDA. As a side note, Vik Malhi and Amy Ryan recommendation about this on the boot-camp were that you always should do whatever the lab material states, pretty obvious J, and if nothing is stated you should set it to the proper value for that type of call. This applies to both Type of number (TON) and Number plan information (NPI). The later is mostly set to ISDN, if nothing else is said. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE # 26199 (Voice) Unified Communication Consultant Cygate AB From: Ccie Voice [mailto:v.c...@yahoo.com] Sent: den 3 mars 2011 19:52 To: CCIE Study Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Thank you all for your reply, I just need to know if the PSTN router in the LAB will accept the call or no if it is not set to the proper value. If the PSTN router will not accept the call then it is OK I can play with these values and solve the problem. But the problem if the PSTN router accepts all calls based on called party number and later on the proctor will check if you set the values correctly or not. for me what I understood before is the way that Roger sent. (thank you Roger) Regards, From: Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se To: Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:41:12 PM Subject: SV: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi, You need to look at this from the originating endpoint and the outgoing gateway. For a more detailed explanation see my response in line with your mail. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE #26199 (Voice) Consultant Cygate AB Eric Perssons väg 21, SE-217 62 MALMÖ Från: Ccie Voice [v.c...@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 3 mars 2011 02:49 Till: CCIE Study Ämne: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. This is correct What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Long Distance, using BR1 Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a remote site , aka it's national Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a local phone, aka it's subscriber Long Distance, backup for BR1 using HQ Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
Thank you all for your clarification From: Steve Denney (stdenney) stden...@cisco.com To: Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se; Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 5:49:48 PM Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type I agree with Roger’s response 100%, with one small comment: If nothing is stated in the lab, then do not waste time configuring any of those settings. “Extra” or “best practice” configuration, if not required, will not get you any points. If it’s not in the lab, then it is not a requirement, and hence it does not matter what values are set. Just be sure you have read the question *completely* and understand exactly what is being asked for. :) cheers, sd From:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Roger Källberg Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:54 AM To: Ccie Voice; CCIE Study Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type As other have answered, if needed you will be instructed in the lab material how these settings should be set. That’s about all that anyone can say about this, and other stuff covered in the lab, without breaking the NDA. As a side note, Vik Malhi and Amy Ryan recommendation about this on the boot-camp were that you always should do whatever the lab material states, pretty obvious J, and if nothing is stated you should set it to the proper value for that type of call. This applies to both Type of number (TON) and Number plan information (NPI). The later is mostly set to ISDN, if nothing else is said. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE # 26199 (Voice) Unified Communication Consultant Cygate AB From:Ccie Voice [mailto:v.c...@yahoo.com] Sent: den 3 mars 2011 19:52 To: CCIE Study Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Thank you all for your reply, I just need to know if the PSTN router in the LAB will accept the call or no if it is not set to the proper value. If the PSTN router will not accept the call then it is OK I can play with these values and solve the problem. But the problem if the PSTN router accepts all calls based on called party number and later on the proctor will check if you set the values correctly or not. for me what I understood before is the way that Roger sent. (thank you Roger) Regards, From:Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se To: Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:41:12 PM Subject: SV: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi, You need to look at this from the originating endpoint and the outgoing gateway. For a more detailed explanation see my response in line with your mail. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE #26199 (Voice) Consultant CygateAB Eric Perssons väg 21, SE-217 62 MALMÖ Från:Ccie Voice [v.c...@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 3 mars 2011 02:49 Till: CCIE Study Ämne: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. This is correct What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriberor National Fromthe perspectiveof caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Long Distance, using BR1 Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriberor National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a remote site , aka it's national Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a local phone, aka it's subscriber Long Distance, backup for BR1 using HQ Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriberor National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
Watch Vik Malhi's video .. He has explaines this very well.. Answer to your question is in his video.. --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type To: Matthew Berry matt...@ciscovoiceguru.com, ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 1:09 PM Thank you all, I know that debug will help me to make sure that I am sending the configured values. but not this is not my concern. I need to know how to set these values? is there any rule I should follow or not? From: Matthew Berry matt...@ciscovoiceguru.com To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 4:38:15 AM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type For sure, Adam! debug isdn q931 was my best friend in the lab. A close runner-up is debug voip dialpeer to make sure the correct dial-peer is being selected. Thanks! Matthew Berry, CCIE #26721 (Voice) Email: thematthewbe...@gmail.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/CiscoVoiceGuru Tech Blog: http://ciscovoiceguru.com On 3/3/11 6:23 PM, adam compton wrote: If you run debug isdn q931 on the gateway the call is going out, you can confirm what Call Manager is sending to the PSTN. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you all for your reply, I just need to know if the PSTN router in the LAB will accept the call or no if it is not set to the proper value. If the PSTN router will not accept the call then it is OK I can play with these values and solve the problem. But the problem if the PSTN router accepts all calls based on called party number and later on the proctor will check if you set the values correctly or not. for me what I understood before is the way that Roger sent. (thank you Roger) Regards, From: Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se To: Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:41:12 PM Subject: SV: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi, You need to look at this from the originating endpoint and the outgoing gateway. For a more detailed explanation see my response in line with your mail. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE #26199 (Voice) Consultant Cygate AB Eric Perssons väg 21, SE-217 62 MALMÖ Från: Ccie Voice [v.c...@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 3 mars 2011 02:49 Till: CCIE Study Ämne: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. This is correct What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Long Distance, using BR1 Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a remote site , aka it's national Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a local phone, aka it's subscriber Long Distance, backup for BR1 using HQ Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
Hello, I can just answer only one question (Which I confirm). it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Best regards, Tamer Ismail From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Ccie Voice Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 3:50 AM To: CCIE Study Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. or National Called Party Number Type to: National. it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. or National Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
The best answer is to set it to whatever the lab says to set it to. In the reality, Subscriber = local, National = LD, international international for North American Dial Plan. In the lab, different country may require all in country calls to be subscriber, or all in country calls to be national, depending on the scenario. I know of one IPexpert lab that requires that a UK called number be set to subscriber, and a UK cell phone called number to be national. TEHO shouldn't cause to much conflict, because you would normally do this with a Route Pattern where you can mark the settings for the TEHO number. You can also set a closer match in called and calling transformations, as well as translation-rules if you are restricted from using another Route Pattern. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. or National Called Party Number Type to: National. it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. or National Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
Thank you all for your reply, I just need to know if the PSTN router in the LAB will accept the call or no if it is not set to the proper value. If the PSTN router will not accept the call then it is OK I can play with these values and solve the problem. But the problem if the PSTN router accepts all calls based on called party number and later on the proctor will check if you set the values correctly or not. for me what I understood before is the way that Roger sent. (thank you Roger) Regards, From: Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se To: Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:41:12 PM Subject: SV: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi, You need to look at this from the originating endpoint and the outgoing gateway. For a more detailed explanation see my response in line with your mail. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE #26199 (Voice) Consultant CygateAB Eric Perssons väg 21, SE-217 62 MALMÖ Från: Ccie Voice [v.c...@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 3 mars 2011 02:49 Till: CCIE Study Ämne: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. This is correct What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriberor National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Long Distance, using BR1 Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriberor National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a remote site , aka it's national Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a local phone, aka it's subscriber Long Distance, backup for BR1 using HQ Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriberor National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
It will be noted in the lab book. Take a deep breath. You can breathe now. :) On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you all for your reply, I just need to know if the PSTN router in the LAB will accept the call or no if it is not set to the proper value. If the PSTN router will not accept the call then it is OK I can play with these values and solve the problem. But the problem if the PSTN router accepts all calls based on called party number and later on the proctor will check if you set the values correctly or not. for me what I understood before is the way that Roger sent. (thank you Roger) Regards, -- *From:* Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se *To:* Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com *Sent:* Thu, March 3, 2011 6:41:12 PM *Subject:* SV: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi, You need to look at this from the originating endpoint and the outgoing gateway. For a more detailed explanation see my response in line with your mail. Sincerely *Roger Källberg* CCIE #26199 (Voice) Consultant Cygate AB Eric Perssons väg 21, SE-217 62 MALMÖ -- *Från:* Ccie Voice [v.c...@yahoo.com] *Skickat:* den 3 mars 2011 02:49 *Till:* CCIE Study *Ämne:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. *This is correct * What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National *From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber* Called Party Number Type to: National *From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national* ** it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Long Distance, using BR1 Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National *From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a remote site , aka it's national* Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber *From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a local phone, aka it's subscriber* Long Distance, backup for BR1 using HQ Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National *From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber* Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router *From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national* Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com -- duy CCIE #27737 Voice ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
We technically arent allowed to answer your question about the lab. Dont stress out though, if the PSTN router wont accept something or is expecting something, its a safe bet that you will be told the information you need. From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Ccie Voice Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 10:52 AM To: CCIE Study Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Thank you all for your reply, I just need to know if the PSTN router in the LAB will accept the call or no if it is not set to the proper value. If the PSTN router will not accept the call then it is OK I can play with these values and solve the problem. But the problem if the PSTN router accepts all calls based on called party number and later on the proctor will check if you set the values correctly or not. for me what I understood before is the way that Roger sent. (thank you Roger) Regards, _ From: Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se To: Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 6:41:12 PM Subject: SV: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi, You need to look at this from the originating endpoint and the outgoing gateway. For a more detailed explanation see my response in line with your mail. Sincerely Roger Källberg CCIE #26199 (Voice) Consultant Cygate AB Eric Perssons väg 21, SE-217 62 MALMÖ _ Från: Ccie Voice [v.c...@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 3 mars 2011 02:49 Till: CCIE Study Ämne: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. This is correct What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Long Distance, using BR1 Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a remote site , aka it's national Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a local phone, aka it's subscriber Long Distance, backup for BR1 using HQ Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
If you run debug isdn q931 on the gateway the call is going out, you can confirm what Call Manager is sending to the PSTN. On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you all for your reply, I just need to know if the PSTN router in the LAB will accept the call or no if it is not set to the proper value. If the PSTN router will not accept the call then it is OK I can play with these values and solve the problem. But the problem if the PSTN router accepts all calls based on called party number and later on the proctor will check if you set the values correctly or not. for me what I understood before is the way that Roger sent. (thank you Roger) Regards, -- *From:* Roger Källberg roger.kallb...@cygate.se *To:* Ccie Voice v.c...@yahoo.com; CCIE Study ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com *Sent:* Thu, March 3, 2011 6:41:12 PM *Subject:* SV: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi, You need to look at this from the originating endpoint and the outgoing gateway. For a more detailed explanation see my response in line with your mail. Sincerely *Roger Källberg* CCIE #26199 (Voice) Consultant Cygate AB Eric Perssons väg 21, SE-217 62 MALMÖ -- *Från:* Ccie Voice [v.c...@yahoo.com] *Skickat:* den 3 mars 2011 02:49 *Till:* CCIE Study *Ämne:* [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. *This is correct * What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National *From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber* Called Party Number Type to: National *From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national* ** it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Long Distance, using BR1 Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National *From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a remote site , aka it's national* Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber *From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a local phone, aka it's subscriber* Long Distance, backup for BR1 using HQ Router Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber or National *From the perspective of caller and VGW this is a call that came from a local site , aka it's subscriber* Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router *From the perspective of called and VGW this is a call goes to a remote phone, aka it's national* Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called Party Number Type
Hi All, I am a little bit confused about how to set the value for Calling and Called Party Number Plan. let us say HQ Phone 1 Calls local Call in this case I think I have to set: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. Called Party Number Type to: Subscriber. What about Long Distance: Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. or National Called Party Number Type to: National. it will be more complicated if we need to use TEHO, So if HQ Phone 1 calls BR1 Local PSTN number what I should set the values? Calling Party Number Type to: Subscriber. or National Called Party Number Type to: National or Subscriber I am using BR1 Router Regards, ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called party number type in TEHO
Hi Shrini, i spent about one day with playing: You can lab: Sitex Phone in CSS_SiteX - depending on the called number you can now modify the calling number with a TP and set it to a Number, where the TEHO CPT Pattern can match. eg: somebody dials 94023456789 (national), you can transform the cpt in this CSS to prefix and send it to the TEHO, where you have a CPT for this pattern. Now the calling party can be normalized. I think this is a very scalable scenario but in the lab we will spend to much time with it. You better go for separate route lists. HTH Steffen Am 27.01.2011 06:47, schrieb Shrini: While browsing through archive I found an interesting post unanswered. After I read this, same doubt came into my mind about calling/called party number type for a TEHO call. When HQ calls Br1 phone using Br1 gateway – Called will be *SUBSCRIBER* *(In Gateway prospective) but is a National call for Calling party* If HQ phone calls Br1 Phone using local gateway then it makes sense that Called number is Nationaland Calling party is National. And also in both cases Calling number will be National – is this correct ? http://onlinestudylist.com/archives/ccie_voice/2009-October/063998.html What about calling number type ? HQ calling BR1 pstn. 1st Preference call should go via BR1 gateway if BR1 gateway unavailable call go out via HQ gateway. Called number type when call go out via Br1 subscriber and when it go out via HQ type national. BUT what about calling number type, you can't mark the CALLING number type subscriber when it is going out via BR1 gateway CAN YOU ??? I thought the calling number type will be national in both the cases, can some please clarify ? ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called party number type in TEHO
Hi Steffen, Most of us have similar situations and questions. Thanks for your explanation. Just different way of accomplishing the same task. In the same post someone replied saying that called party number type is with reference to I agree with that too. Thanks again. -Shrini _ From: steffen lehmann [mailto:stef...@s-lehmann.de] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:38 AM To: Shrini Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Calling and Called party number type in TEHO Hi Shrini, i spent about one day with playing: You can lab: Sitex Phone in CSS_SiteX - depending on the called number you can now modify the calling number with a TP and set it to a Number, where the TEHO CPT Pattern can match. eg: somebody dials 94023456789 (national), you can transform the cpt in this CSS to prefix and send it to the TEHO, where you have a CPT for this pattern. Now the calling party can be normalized. I think this is a very scalable scenario but in the lab we will spend to much time with it. You better go for separate route lists. HTH Steffen Am 27.01.2011 06:47, schrieb Shrini: While browsing through archive I found an interesting post unanswered. After I read this, same doubt came into my mind about calling/called party number type for a TEHO call. When HQ calls Br1 phone using Br1 gateway - Called will be SUBSCRIBER (In Gateway prospective) but is a National call for Calling party If HQ phone calls Br1 Phone using local gateway then it makes sense that Called number is National and Calling party is National. And also in both cases Calling number will be National - is this correct ? http://onlinestudylist.com/archives/ccie_voice/2009-October/063998.html What about calling number type ? HQ calling BR1 pstn. 1st Preference call should go via BR1 gateway if BR1 gateway unavailable call go out via HQ gateway. Called number type when call go out via Br1 subscriber and when it go out via HQ type national. BUT what about calling number type, you can't mark the CALLING number type subscriber when it is going out via BR1 gateway CAN YOU ??? I thought the calling number type will be national in both the cases, can some please clarify ? ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
