Re: [ccp4bb] Twin refinement not working in CCP4 6.1.1

2009-03-03 Thread Charles Ballard

Dear All

this and other fixes are on the ccp4 problems pages

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/problems.php

Charles Ballard

On 2 Mar 2009, at 16:50, Ronnie Berntsson wrote:

I have the same problem when running the latest ccp4 (6.1.1 on os  
x, updated 1 hour ago via fink). Only way I managed to circumvent  
it is to add the TWIN keyword in the command file as well..


Cheers,
Ronnie Berntsson

On Mar 2, 2009, at 16:06, Carr, SB (Stephen) wrote:


Dear CCP4BB,

I have come across a problem when running refmac5 in CCP4 6.1.1  
via the gui.  I have a twinned data set and so want to refine the  
twin fraction of the data. I selected amplitude based twin  
refinement in the gui, but find that the resulting command file  
does not contain the twin keyword and hence twin refinement does  
not occur.  If I manually edit the command file to include the  
twin keyword then refmac calculates twin fractions etc.  Has  
anyone else come across this problem and if so how did you solve it?


best regards,

Steve Carr


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[ccp4bb] PhD Studentships at Cardiff Medical School

2009-03-03 Thread Pierre Rizkallah
Dear Bulletin Board Readers,

Some PhD studentships have been made available at the Medical Biochemistry and 
Immunology Dept of
the Medical School, Cardiff University, Wales, U.K. There are 2 projects with a 
structural
component, in the T-cell area, detailed at http://www.tcells.org (click on the 
link near the bottom
of the page, where more details are available). The deadline for applications 
is 13 Mar 2009
(details for the application procedure are also at the above link).

Please note that the awards can only cover the costs for U.K. and E.U. 
nationals only.

It would be very much appreciated if this notice is brought to the attention of 
prospective
students. Thank you very much.

Pierre Rizkallah


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Medicine, Academic Avenue,
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Re: [ccp4bb] exclude NCS regions in phenix.refine

2009-03-03 Thread Pavel Afonine

Hi Bert,

- define NCS selections in your input parameters file ncs.txt (just 
copy-paste-edit whatever is defined automatically, for example);

- do not forget to use main.ncs=true;
- turn off automatic NCS detection: ncs.find_automatically=false.

Example:

phenix.refine model.pdb data.mtz ncs.txt main.ncs=true 
ncs.find_automatically=false


I'm sure you can do this from phenix.refine GUI as well.

Cheers,
Pavel.



On 3/2/09 5:46 PM, Van Den Berg, Bert wrote:


Hello all,

I'm refining a structure with 4 molecules in the AU. The molecules 
have substantial differences in certain regions, so I want to exclude 
those regions from the NCS restraints calculation and usage. How do i 
do this? As far as I can see, by selecting residues via for example 
chain A and (resseq 20:50 or resseq 88:299), etc the NCS restraints 
are calculated from the specified part of the molecules but still 
applied to the entire molecules, which I don't want.


Thanks for any hints!

Bert van den Berg
University of Massachusetts Medical School
Program in Molecular Medicine
Biotech II, 373 Plantation Street, Suite 115
Worcester MA 01605
Phone: 508 856 1201 (office); 508 856 1211 (lab)
e-mail: bert.vandenb...@umassmed.edu
http://www.umassmed.edu/pmm/faculty/vandenberg.cfm



-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Artem Evdokimov
Sent: Fri 2/27/2009 7:00 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Mammalian gene expression in E. coli

Hello,

The short answer is 'yes'. If you can use both methods :) The issue with
limited proteolysis lies in the questionable state of the full-length
protein - if the stuff is nasty and misfolded, then fagments generated by
proteolytic digest aren't going to be meaningful. On the other hand if you
have a small amount of decent quality full-length protein, digest can be
extremely useful. Deuterium exchange is a nice technique if one of your
friends is an altruistic mass-spectroscopist :)

Purely theoretical methods are limited as well, especially if you're 
working

with a bunch of unknown domains in a sequence that has low identity with
anything that has associated structures. And in the end, even for known
structures (or very similar ones) truncation can generate surprises - both
positive and negative ones.

Artem

Hi:
I am following this with interest. Nice and useful info.
My question is: how do you chop the protein into useful hunks?
Using some domain identifying software or using limited proteolysis?
Thanks
Subbu





[ccp4bb] PhD Opportunities in Structural Biology

2009-03-03 Thread Wojciech Rypniewski

Exciting PhD Programme in Structural Biology

The Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry of the Polish Academy of Sciences
(IChB PAN) in Poznan, in cooperation with the Max Planck Institute
for Plant Breeding Research (MPIZ) in Cologne, announce the opening
of an International PhD Programme in Structural biology of plants
and microbes. The research projects will focus on the application
of protein engineering and protein crystallography to the study
of structural aspects of plant biology and of host-microbe interactions.
The programme is supported by the Foundation for Polish Science through
structural funds of the European Union. The monthly fellowship is
3000 PLN.

Successful applicants will be enrolled in a four-year programme,
expected to conclude with the presentation and public defence
of a PhD thesis, for obtaining a doctoral degree in chemistry
or biochemistry from the Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry, Polish
Academy of Sciences. The programme is open to all candidates who have
a university MSc degree (or equivalent) in chemistry, biology,
or a related field. Candidate selection will be conducted according
to the regulations for the Graduate School of IChB PAN and will include
an oral examination in chemistry or biochemistry. The entire program
is in English.

The application deadline is July 18, 2009. Successful candidates
are expected to start the programme on September 1, 2009.
For more information about the application procedure, please visit

http://www.man.poznan.pl/CBB/MPD

or contact Dr. Anna Urbanowicz (an...@man.poznan.pl ;
Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry, Polish Academy of Sciences,
Noskowskiego 12/14, 61-704 Poznan, Poland).

The Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry, Polish Academy of Sciences,
is an equal opportunity employer and encourages applications
from disabled persons.


[ccp4bb] Problem with setting up ccp4 gui

2009-03-03 Thread Jan Jensen
Hi all,
I have been struggling with installing the new CCP4 package. I run RedHat
Enterprise 4 and have previously used older packages with success. After I
untar and run ./install as root everything seems to install just fine. When
I run ccp4i -c to configure I think something goes wrong or extensions get
misdirected. If I try to run all the scripts to test, they all seem to
execute fine.
I have had luck starting the GUI as root or user but when you get to the
part where projekt directories are setup the GUI stops working and cannot be
restarted (showing the message below)

Error in startup script: wrong # args: should be dbccp4i_open_project
project args
while executing
dbccp4i_open_project
(eval body line 1)
invoked from within
eval dbccp4i_open_project $project $args
(procedure DbLoadFile line 12)
invoked from within
DbLoadFile $project
(procedure DbOpenDatabase line 13)
invoked from within
DbOpenDatabase $project
(procedure DbOpen line 30)
invoked from within
DbOpen -init
(procedure DbInitialise line 19)
invoked from within
DbInitialise
(procedure task line 14)
invoked from within
task
(configure arm line 6)
invoked from within
switch  $system(RUN_MODE) \
  script {
# Run a script ($CCP4I/scripts/project.script) with parameters from def file

source [file join $env(CCP4I_...
(file /opt/ccp4/ccp4-6.1.0/ccp4i/bin/ccp4i.tcl line 163)
invoked from within
source [file join $env(CCP4I_TOP) bin ccp4i.tcl]
(file /opt/ccp4/ccp4-6.1.0/ccp4i/bin/ccp4i line 5)


Can anyone help me?

Thanks,

Jan K Jensen, Pl-R, Ph.D. 
Post doctoral fellow at University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC)
Laboratory of Peter GW Gettins
Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics
MBRB Room 1260
900 S Ashland
Chicago Il, 60607
Phone: 312 996 7664 or 773 574 9276 (mobile)
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T. Mrabet
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 12:37 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] PDB protein strucutrues as screen saver


Hi,
You may want to have a look at 
http://www.luminorum.com/html/luminorum_ltd___extras.html.
hth
Nadir

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Jayashankar wrote:
 Dear Scientists,

 It may be too much...

 But as a biophysics student I would like to appreciate and feel happy
 to have pdb
 structures as my computers screen savers than to have some funny and 
 fancy stuffs.
 And it may help me as a motivator to solve my own structures in future

 I want to ask is there any existing script that grep strucutres one by
 one with one line definition of that structure.




 S.Jayashankar
 Research Student
 Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
 Hannover Medical School
 Germany.


[ccp4bb] elbow and compound library

2009-03-03 Thread Eric Liu
Hi All,

I downloaded a stausporine PDB file and used elbow to generate the cif file
for my ccp4 refinement. It gave the following error message:


0:00 Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise
B

Failed to determine the bonding of a fragment of the molecule.

PDB file elbow.stau_pdb.001.pdb written.
Bonding file elbow.stau_pdb.001.bonding.py written.

Edit bonding file to reflectALTERNATIVELY

Re-run eLBOW with the --reel option and the molecule wil be loaded
into REEL.  Edit the bonds and save the results as fixed.cif to
allow eLBOW to load the bonding. the desired bond.



I guess stausporine was quite complicated molecule. How do I rerun the elbow
with reel option? What other programs you can use to generate compound
library file?


Thanks!

Eric


Re: [ccp4bb] elbow and compound library

2009-03-03 Thread Eric Larson

Hi Eric,

You can try the Dundee prodrg server: 
http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/


Good luck,
Eric
__
Eric Larson, PhD
MSGPP Consortium
Department of Biochemistry
Box 357742
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Eric Liu wrote:


Hi All,

I downloaded a stausporine PDB file and used elbow to generate the cif file
for my ccp4 refinement. It gave the following error message:


0:00 Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise
B

   Failed to determine the bonding of a fragment of the molecule.

   PDB file elbow.stau_pdb.001.pdb written.
   Bonding file elbow.stau_pdb.001.bonding.py written.

   Edit bonding file to reflectALTERNATIVELY

   Re-run eLBOW with the --reel option and the molecule wil be loaded
   into REEL.  Edit the bonds and save the results as fixed.cif to
   allow eLBOW to load the bonding. the desired bond.



I guess stausporine was quite complicated molecule. How do I rerun the elbow
with reel option? What other programs you can use to generate compound
library file?


Thanks!

Eric



Re: [ccp4bb] elbow and compound library

2009-03-03 Thread Nigel W Moriarty

Eric

Staurosporine is a standard ligand in the Monomer library in PHENIX and 
will work directly with phenix.refine.


I should mention that if you have the atom names different from the 
monomer library


phenix.ready_set model_including_stau.pdb

will run eLBOW on the ligands in the model using all the best options.  
ReadySet! also adds hydrogens to the model which is a good thing.


Nigel

On 3/3/09 11:17 AM, Eric Liu wrote:

Hi All,

I downloaded a stausporine PDB file and used elbow to generate the cif 
file for my ccp4 refinement. It gave the following error message:



0:00 Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise 
Bondise B


Failed to determine the bonding of a fragment of the molecule.

PDB file elbow.stau_pdb.001.pdb written.
Bonding file elbow.stau_pdb.001.bonding.py 
http://elbow.stau_pdb.001.bonding.py written.


Edit bonding file to reflectALTERNATIVELY

Re-run eLBOW with the --reel option and the molecule wil be loaded
into REEL.  Edit the bonds and save the results as fixed.cif to
allow eLBOW to load the bonding. the desired bond.



I guess stausporine was quite complicated molecule. How do I rerun the 
elbow with reel option? What other programs you can use to generate 
compound library file?



Thanks!

Eric


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Re: [ccp4bb] elbow and compound library

2009-03-03 Thread William G. Scott

Hi Eric:

You could try generating a SMILES string for your compound using this: 
http://www.molinspiration.com/cgi-bin/properties

(or search to see if one is available) and feed that into elbow, eg:

elbow.builder -- 
smiles 
= 
CC12C 
(C(CC(O1)N3C4=CC=CC=C4C5=C6C(=C7C8=CC=CC=C8N2C7=C53)C(NC6=O)O)NC)OC


I got the smiles string here:
http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?sid=14717161


Here is the resulting cif file generated by the above command:



elbow.cif
Description: Binary data




The compound is spelled lightly differently to what you wrote, so  
check to see if this is the right thing.


HTH,

Bill





On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Eric Liu wrote:


Hi All,

I downloaded a stausporine PDB file and used elbow to generate the  
cif file

for my ccp4 refinement. It gave the following error message:


0:00 Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise Bondise  
Bondise

B

   Failed to determine the bonding of a fragment of the molecule.

   PDB file elbow.stau_pdb.001.pdb written.
   Bonding file elbow.stau_pdb.001.bonding.py written.

   Edit bonding file to reflectALTERNATIVELY

   Re-run eLBOW with the --reel option and the molecule wil be loaded
   into REEL.  Edit the bonds and save the results as fixed.cif to
   allow eLBOW to load the bonding. the desired bond.



I guess stausporine was quite complicated molecule. How do I rerun  
the elbow

with reel option? What other programs you can use to generate compound
library file?


Thanks!

Eric




[ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations

2009-03-03 Thread Oganesyan, Vaheh
Colleagues,

Would some one kindly suggest software that calculates shape
complementarity of two interacting proteins based on co-crystal
structure?
I've seen number of reports with sc parameter included but none of
those mention how it was done.
Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that indeed
does not run.

Thanks in advance.

___
Vaheh




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Re: [ccp4bb] elbow and compound library

2009-03-03 Thread Judith Murray-Rust

But beware of chiral centres. You need the isomeric SMILES - otherwise you may 
take your chances on what is generated. If in doubt see wikipedia for ref to 
staurosporine structure determination.
HTH
J
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Structural Biology Lab
Cancer Research UK



-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of William G. Scott
Sent: Tue 03-Mar-09 9:06 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] elbow and compound library
 
Hi Eric:

You could try generating a SMILES string for your compound using this: 
http://www.molinspiration.com/cgi-bin/properties

(or search to see if one is available) and feed that into elbow, eg:

elbow.builder -- 
smiles 
= 
CC12C 
(C(CC(O1)N3C4=CC=CC=C4C5=C6C(=C7C8=CC=CC=C8N2C7=C53)C(NC6=O)O)NC)OC

I got the smiles string here:
http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?sid=14717161


Here is the resulting cif file generated by the above command:



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Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations

2009-03-03 Thread Edward A. Berry

Actually sc is part of the ccp4 package.
(more $CDOC/sc.doc)
The reference describing the procedure is:
1. Michael C. Lawrence and Peter M. Colman J. Mol. Biol., 234, p946 -
   p950 (1993)

As you say, it calculates shape complimentarity of the surfaces as they
are docked in the structure. So before you attribute changes in sc to
conformational changes, be sure the surfaces haven't moved wrt each other!

Cheers,
Ed

Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:

Colleagues,

Would some one kindly suggest software that calculates shape
complementarity of two interacting proteins based on co-crystal
structure?
I've seen number of reports with sc parameter included but none of
those mention how it was done.
Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that indeed
does not run.

Thanks in advance.

___
Vaheh




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Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations - oops!

2009-03-03 Thread Edward A. Berry

Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:


Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that indeed
does not run.



Sorry, I didn't see the rest of your post.
I had sc running and producing meaningful results back in 2006-2007,
I can check which version etc.

Ed


[ccp4bb] express large proteins in E. coli?

2009-03-03 Thread David Garboczi
Have large proteins (300+ kD) been successfully produced in E. coli? 
Which ones?


Dave

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[ccp4bb] TLS refinement

2009-03-03 Thread Nalam, Madhavi
Hello:
I am trying to refine a structure at 3 A resolution using TLS refinement. After 
8-10 cycles of TLS refinement, R-free and R-factor converges. But R-free starts 
going up again from the first round of restrained refinement. My question now 
is can I stop just after TLS refinement without doing any restrained 
refinement? If so, the PDB file contains ANISOU cards for the atoms. Does this 
mean anisotropic refinement is performed on the atoms which should not be the 
case for a 3 A structure?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Madhavi
 



From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Edward A. Berry
Sent: Tue 3/3/2009 5:39 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations - oops!



Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:

 Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that indeed
 does not run.


Sorry, I didn't see the rest of your post.
I had sc running and producing meaningful results back in 2006-2007,
I can check which version etc.

Ed





Re: [ccp4bb] TLS refinement

2009-03-03 Thread Ethan A Merritt
On Tuesday 03 March 2009, Nalam, Madhavi wrote:
 Hello:
 I am trying to refine a structure at 3 A resolution using TLS refinement. 
 After 8-10 cycles of TLS refinement, R-free and R-factor converges. But 
 R-free starts going up again from the first round of restrained refinement. 
 My question now is can I stop just after TLS refinement without doing any 
 restrained refinement? 

In the Refinement Parameters panel of the ccp4i interface to refmac5, select
'refine _overall_ temperature factors' rather than 'refine _isotropic_ 
temperature factors'.


 If so, the PDB file contains ANISOU cards for the atoms. Does this mean 
 anisotropic refinement is performed on the atoms which should not be the case 
 for a 3 A structure? 

No.  The ANISOU records contain the Uij approximation to the result of applying
your TLS model to each atom.



 Thanks in advance,
 Regards,
 Madhavi
  
 
 
 
 From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Edward A. Berry
 Sent: Tue 3/3/2009 5:39 PM
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations - oops!
 
 
 
 Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:
 
  Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that indeed
  does not run.
 
 
 Sorry, I didn't see the rest of your post.
 I had sc running and producing meaningful results back in 2006-2007,
 I can check which version etc.
 
 Ed
 
 
 
 



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Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Lawrence

Hi Vaheh

I have not had anyone report problems with sc of late. If you send me  
the relevant files or output I can check it out for you.


sincerely

Mike Lawrence, PhD

WEHI Principal Research Fellow
Division of Structural Biology
Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research
1G Royal Parade, Parkville
Victoria 3052, AUSTRALIA

Tel. 61-3-9345-2693
Fax 61-3-9345-2686
Email: lawre...@wehi.edu.au

On 04/03/2009, at 9:17 AM, Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:


Colleagues,

Would some one kindly suggest software that calculates shape
complementarity of two interacting proteins based on co-crystal
structure?
I've seen number of reports with sc parameter included but none of
those mention how it was done.
Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that  
indeed

does not run.

Thanks in advance.

___
Vaheh




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