[ccp4bb] MIND in shelxd

2014-04-22 Thread Monica Mittal
Dear all

How to decide for minimum distance between heavy atoms in shelxd esp w.r.t.
S-SAD.

Thanx in advance
Monica


[ccp4bb] shelxd

2014-04-22 Thread Monica Mittal
Dear all

I am naive in phasing experiments. CAn anyone please guide how to do the
following:

In a S-SAD for *SHELXD* searches, try various high-resolution cutoffs for
example 2.5 to 5 Å in steps of 0.1 Å. Based on these attempts, use a
high-resolution cutoff at for example 3.8 Å for substructure determination
with an *E* min value of for example 1.6 to search for X no. of protein
sulfur sites.

Thanx in advance
Monica


[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] coot problems to decrease R FREE

2014-04-22 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Peter,

First a common misconception: your goal should be to get the best possible fit 
of your model to your electron density maps. Rfree is only an indicator, 
telling you whether you are moving in the right direction.

So in coot, you should look for places where your model does not fit the 
electron density very well and correct them. Things to look for are peaks 
(positive and negative) in the electron density maps. Here I use the default of 
+/- 3 sigma. You should also look for parts of your model with weak or bad 
electron density, as well as uninterpreted electron density. Good parts usually 
have density above the 1.5 sigma level, but for weak parts, you could go down 
to ~0.6 sigma. Below that, you get into the noise/artefact level.

Things to do are fitting side chains in different orientations, flipping 
peptides, removing disordered loops with no or very bad density, fitting extra 
residues where there is extra density etc. In certain cases, you may have to 
rebuild complete loops. You are done with your refinement when you see nothing 
any more that could be improved.

Good luck!
Herman


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Dear all,

I'm a novice of coot and ccp4. Now I'm doing refinement using both refmac5 and 
coot.Here are some problems I'm facing. Really hope you can give me some 
suggestions.

1、THE RESOLUTION OF THE DATA IS 2.5 angstrom. After first refinement of refmac5 
I got R factor which is 0.26 and R FREE which is 0.31. My question is what the 
final R factor and R FREE should be after several rounds of refinement by 
refmac5 and coot.

2、At which map level(e/A3 or rmsd)should I refine the data by coot?


3、Can you give me some tips and strategies about how to use coot to decrease R 
free? now I just use some basic tricks such as fit density and Ramachandran 
plot to refine the data.


Best regards,


Peter Chen




Re: [ccp4bb] shelxd

2014-04-22 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Monica,

if you are new to phasing I recommend you first use the ``standard''
values in shelx c/d/e, either using one of my tutorials or, even better,
the GUI hkl2map, available at http://webapps.embl-hamburg.de/hkl2map/.

If your native data are about 2A or better, and your structure is a
protein, shelxe should be able to trace a major part of it even from
very poor starting phases, making it unnecessary to try the below hint.

If you do, shelxd is steared by an input file containing various
keywords. One is the SHEL command with the upper and lower resolution
limit. If you prepare 26 input files (all with different names) and vary
the second number in SHEL from 2.5 2.6 2.7 ... 5.0 you scan the
different resolution cut-offs. However, shelxd has become less sensitive
to the resolution cut-off, in particular in combination with
auto-tracing in shelxe.

The second part, Emin, refers to the keyword ESEL. Its default value is
1.5. If you lower the number to 1.2, say, shelxd uses more data for
locating the substructure, but since this way you may also include
noise, the exact number is difficult to tell in advance.

Best wishes,
Tim

On 04/22/2014 10:13 AM, Monica Mittal wrote:
 Dear all
 
 I am naive in phasing experiments. CAn anyone please guide how to do the
 following:
 
 In a S-SAD for *SHELXD* searches, try various high-resolution cutoffs for
 example 2.5 to 5 Å in steps of 0.1 Å. Based on these attempts, use a
 high-resolution cutoff at for example 3.8 Å for substructure determination
 with an *E* min value of for example 1.6 to search for X no. of protein
 sulfur sites.
 
 Thanx in advance
 Monica
 

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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[ccp4bb] Dehydration

2014-04-22 Thread Yahui Liu
Dear all,

Right now, we are try to crystallise an protein complex. By all kinds of
efforts, the resolution of the crystal was about 8 angstrom. So we would
like to try dehydration.
The precipitant that our crystal grew was ethanol. Since the evaporation of
the ethanol, our crystal is unstable at the room temperature or 4 degree
when it was exposed to the air directly.
Do any people have some suggestions about the dehydration way of our
crystal?

Best
Yahui


Re: [ccp4bb] shelxd

2014-04-22 Thread Jim Pflugrath
I think what one uses will depend on what one expects to be in the structure 
and the resolution and the quality of their diffraction data.

I usually start with 1.8 Å resolution data in case there is chance of having 
disulfides.  Then 1.9, then 2.4, then 2.0, then 2.6, then 2.2, then 1.85, then 
1.75, ….  If there are disulfides, then there is the DSUL option if the 
resolution of the diffraction data is not conducive to separating the 
individual sulfur atoms.

One should also change the number of sites that SHELXD is looking for, perhaps 
in a systematic way.  For example, one might be looking for sulfurs based on 
amino acid sequence, but there may be calcium, zinc, manganese, or other strong 
anomalous scattering atoms in the crystal that would make searching for sulfurs 
moot or at least problematic.

Jim


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[monica.mitta...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:13 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] shelxd

Dear all

I am naive in phasing experiments. CAn anyone please guide how to do the 
following:

In a S-SAD for SHELXD searches, try various high-resolution cutoffs for example 
2.5 to 5 Å in steps of 0.1 Å. Based on these attempts, use a high-resolution 
cutoff at for example 3.8 Å for substructure determination with an E min value 
of for example 1.6 to search for X no. of protein sulfur sites.

Thanx in advance
Monica


[ccp4bb] Tenure track position in Protein Chemistry, Leiden University, NL

2014-04-22 Thread Navraj Pannu
Dear all,

Leiden University, The Netherlands has a tenure track position available in
its Protein Chemistry department.

For details, please see the following site:

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This message was posted on behalf of Marcellus Ubbink (Head of the Protein
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Best wishes,
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Re: [ccp4bb] Non-catalytic Rossmann fold domain

2014-04-22 Thread Avinash Punekar
Dear Jack,

In this recent review paper (http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6807/13/6), I 
read about non-catalytic Rossmannn fold proteins which include mitochondrial 
transcription factor B (sc-mtTFB) (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12897151) 
and a t-RNA (1-methyladenosine) MTase from Saccharomyces cerevisiae 
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11684083).

Best wishes,

Avinash Punekar
Uppsala University


Re: [ccp4bb] Non-catalytic Rossmann fold domain

2014-04-22 Thread Mark Brooks
DprA, from the Streptococcus pneumoniae transformasome, is one, I believe:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22904190/

 On 22 Apr 2014, at 14:26, Tanner, John J. tanne...@missouri.edu wrote:
 
 Does anyone know of a protein that has a Rossmann dinucleotide binding domain 
 that does not participate in cofactor/substrate binding?   
 
 Thanks.
 
 Jack Tanner
 
 
 John J. Tanner
 Professor of Biochemistry and Chemistry
 University of Missouri-Columbia
 125 Chemistry Building
 Columbia, MO  65211
 email: tanne...@missouri.edu
 phone: 573-884-1280
 fax: 573-882-2754
 http://faculty.missouri.edu/~tannerjj/tannergroup/tanner.html
 
 
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Trouble Refining Ligand in Phenix

2014-04-22 Thread Chris Fage
Actually, that was the issue. I manually reset the occupancies of the
problematic atoms in the PDB to unity. This solved my problem.

Thanks to Nat and Tom.

Best,
Chris

On 4/21/14, tom.p...@csiro.au tom.p...@csiro.au wrote:
 Hello Chris,

 This probably isn't your problem, but I once put some atoms into difference
 density (in Coot) and for some reason the occupancy was set to zero, so
 although everything was refined, the density was the same as before (massive
 difference density).  You might want to just check.
 cheers, tom

 Tom Peat
 Biophysics Group
 CSIRO, CMSE
 343 Royal Parade
 Parkville, VIC, 3052
 +613 9662 7304
 +614 57 539 419
 tom.p...@csiro.au
 
 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Chris Fage
 [cdf...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:21 AM
 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: [ccp4bb] Trouble Refining Ligand in Phenix

 Hi Everyone,

 I am trying to refine a structure with a phosphorylated amino acid. After
 refining in Phenix, the Fo-Fc density (green) overlaps the 2Fo-Fc density
 for all atoms of the derivatized amino acid in Coot, almost as if I had not
 built in the residue. I am loading a .cif for the derivative when I run
 phenix.refine. I have also tried ReadySet, but when I click the Run in
 phenix.refine button, I see the message

 Error interpreting command line argument as parameter definition:
 refine_65-coot-2.metal.edits
 RuntimeError: Unexpected end of output.

 Am I just seeing noise, or is Phenix not actually refining this portion of
 the model? I would appreciate any suggestions.

 Best,
 Chris



[ccp4bb] Problem with making a continuous nucleic acid chain

2014-04-22 Thread Xiaoming Ren
Dear all:

I am facing a display issue in pymol. In my structure, there is a nucleic acid 
chain with some monomers which are modified nucleotides built in scketcher of 
ccp4 suite. However, When I showed the structure in pymol as cartoon, the 
nucleic acid chain was discontinuous where the monomers are placed. I could not 
get a intact nucleic acid chain except setting the cartoon_nucleic_acid_mode 
value to 1, with the backbone passing through ribose C3' atoms.

I tried to add SEQRES lines into the pdb file according to the pdb instruction, 
but it doesn't work if I want the backbone to pass through phosphorus atoms.

May I get some suggestions from you? Although it's not a big problem, it's 
really painful.

Thanks a lot and best,
Xiaoming


[ccp4bb] 2nd Australian Advanced Methods in Crystallography Workshop - New registration deadline

2014-04-22 Thread Sofia Caria
Dear all,

The registration deadline to the 2nd Australian Advanced Methods in 
Crystallography Workshop has been extended.

Registration deadline: 6th May 2014
Workshop dates: 22-25th June 2014
Website: https://events.synchrotron.org.auhttps://events.synchrotron.org.au/
Contact: 
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Best regards,

Sofia Caria
(by the organising committee)

[cid:7A5AF159-4877-40FE-AF2E-F4EFD9468592]
Organising committee:
Daniel Eriksson- Australian Synchrotron
David Aragão - Australian Synchrotron
Jade Forwood - Charles Sturt University
Mihwa Lee - La Trobe University
Sofia Caria - La Trobe University
Stephanie Gras - Monash University