Re: [ccp4bb] BSA as additive

2017-05-09 Thread Avinash Punekar
Dear H.Sin,

These references may help you: 

Meireles, M., Aimar, P., and Sanchez, V. (2004) Albumin denaturation during
ultrafiltration: effects of operating conditions and consequences on membrane
fouling, Biotech. Bioeng. 38, 528-534.

Schratter, P., (2004) Purification and concentration by ultrafiltration, Meth. 
Mol.Biol.: Protein Purification Protocols 244, 101-116

Sweryda-Krawiec, B., Devaraj, H., Jacob, G., and Hickman, J. J. (2004) A new
interpretation of serum albumin surface passivation, Langmuir 20, 2054-2056.

Adding 1% BSA to your buffer and pre-treating the centricon diafiltration 
membrane does prevent aggregation and improves protein yield by several fold.

Additionally, adding 50 mM L-Arginine (pH’ed to buffer) prevented aggregation 
and produced nice protein crystals.

Best wishes,
Avinash


Re: [ccp4bb] BSA as additive

2017-05-08 Thread Keller, Jacob
Regarding that paper, I would point out that cytosols generally contain 50-100 
mM glutamate, so it makes sense that glutamate enhances solubility.

JPK


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Nicola
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I haven't used BSA, but I did recently use 50mM L-glutamic acid for this exact 
reason (and 5% glycerol in all buffers except the last one for crystallography) 
after reading this paper and it made a big difference to my last protein prep: 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15264823



For my final crystallography buffer I have tried with and without L-glutamic 
acid (as I am trying to optimise micro-crystals and worried the L-glu would 
make sample too soluble) but still waiting to see if I get any improvement. 
Both have drops with micro-crystals already (after 2 days), the L-glutamic acid 
sample has fewer, hoping some other drops will yield better crystals over time.



Hope that helps!



Nicola


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Subject: [ccp4bb] BSA as additive

Dear CCP4BB members,

Sorry about my non crystallography question. Does anyone know of a reference 
where BSA has been used as an "additive" in the protein concentration step to 
prevent aggregation of the main protein?

I would appreciate your suggestions.

Thank you,

H.Sin


Re: [ccp4bb] BSA as additive

2017-05-08 Thread Evans, Nicola
I haven't used BSA, but I did recently use 50mM L-glutamic acid for this exact 
reason (and 5% glycerol in all buffers except the last one for crystallography) 
after reading this paper and it made a big difference to my last protein prep: 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15264823


For my final crystallography buffer I have tried with and without L-glutamic 
acid (as I am trying to optimise micro-crystals and worried the L-glu would 
make sample too soluble) but still waiting to see if I get any improvement. 
Both have drops with micro-crystals already (after 2 days), the L-glutamic acid 
sample has fewer, hoping some other drops will yield better crystals over time.


Hope that helps!


Nicola


From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Ha Sin 
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Sent: 08 May 2017 12:32:44
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] BSA as additive

Dear CCP4BB members,

Sorry about my non crystallography question. Does anyone know of a reference 
where BSA has been used as an "additive" in the protein concentration step to 
prevent aggregation of the main protein?

I would appreciate your suggestions.

Thank you,

H.Sin


Re: [ccp4bb] BSA as additive

2017-05-08 Thread Briggs, David C
(Sorry... over-enthusiastic sending)


As for an actual reference - I'm not sure.


It's a bit like lab folk-lore.


Dave


Dr David C Briggs

Hohenester Lab

Department of Life Sciences

Imperial College London

UK

http://about.me/david_briggs


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Sent: 08 May 2017 13:32:44
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] BSA as additive

Dear CCP4BB members,

Sorry about my non crystallography question. Does anyone know of a reference 
where BSA has been used as an "additive" in the protein concentration step to 
prevent aggregation of the main protein?

I would appreciate your suggestions.

Thank you,

H.Sin


Re: [ccp4bb] BSA as additive

2017-05-08 Thread Briggs, David C
Hello,


I've seen BSA used to "block" membranes of centrifugal concentrators when 
proteins were sticking to them.


It appeared to work (proteins could be concentrated with less loss), but I'm 
not sure how much BSA ends up in your sample.


I can imagine the answer is "a bit" and therefore for some techniques this 
might not be appropriate.


Dave


Dr David C Briggs

Hohenester Lab

Department of Life Sciences

Imperial College London

UK

http://about.me/david_briggs


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Sent: 08 May 2017 13:32:44
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] BSA as additive

Dear CCP4BB members,

Sorry about my non crystallography question. Does anyone know of a reference 
where BSA has been used as an "additive" in the protein concentration step to 
prevent aggregation of the main protein?

I would appreciate your suggestions.

Thank you,

H.Sin


[ccp4bb] BSA as additive

2017-05-08 Thread Ha Sin
Dear CCP4BB members,

Sorry about my non crystallography question. Does anyone know of a
reference where BSA has been used as an "additive" in the protein
concentration step to prevent aggregation of the main protein?

I would appreciate your suggestions.

Thank you,

H.Sin