Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-10 Thread V Nagarajan
From the Washington Post 
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/11/09/what-will-president-trump-mean-for-science/):


Last year, Trumptold 
 conservative 
radio host Michael Savage, “I hear so much about the NIH, and it’s 
terrible.”


V. Nagarajan
JANSi

On 11/9/2016 7:17 PM, William G. Scott wrote:

Dear Edward et al:

I agree we shouldn’t engage in partisan arguments on the CCP4bb.  However, I 
think it is a mistake, and perhaps a missed opportunity, to ignore politics 
completely.

For example, Newt Gingrich is currently in the running for Sec HHS.  He has 
previously written editorials in the NYT and Wall Street Journal advocating 
doubling the budget of the NIH.

I think it is incumbent upon us to make our voices heard if such an opportunity 
arises, regardless of what one may happen to think about the individual’s 
political orientation, as it could potentially be of enormous benefit to the 
scientific community.

Yours faithfully,

William G. Scott
Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu


On Nov 9, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Edward Snell  wrote:

As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries ,this 
topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably better taken up 
privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With CCP4 the signal is 
unusually high and the noise low when compared to any discussion board. I for 
one would like to keep it there. Political views aside, we’re all trying to 
achieve the same scientific goals. Let’s remember that and keep that the focus.
  
Edward Snell Ph.D.

President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
Phone: (716) 898 8631 Fax: (716) 898 8660
Skype:  eddie.snell Email: esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu

Heisenberg was probably here!




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Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Sergio A. Sampieri
It is better to light a candle than curse the darkness...

Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El 10/11/2016, a las 01:17, William G. Scott  escribió:
> 
> Dear Edward et al:
> 
> I agree we shouldn’t engage in partisan arguments on the CCP4bb.  However, I 
> think it is a mistake, and perhaps a missed opportunity, to ignore politics 
> completely.
> 
> For example, Newt Gingrich is currently in the running for Sec HHS.  He has 
> previously written editorials in the NYT and Wall Street Journal advocating 
> doubling the budget of the NIH.  
> 
> I think it is incumbent upon us to make our voices heard if such an 
> opportunity arises, regardless of what one may happen to think about the 
> individual’s political orientation, as it could potentially be of enormous 
> benefit to the scientific community.
> 
> Yours faithfully,
> 
> William G. Scott
> Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
> Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
> University of California at Santa Cruz
> Santa Cruz, California 95064
> USA
> 
> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Edward Snell  wrote:
>> 
>> As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries 
>> ,this topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably better 
>> taken up privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With CCP4 the 
>> signal is unusually high and the noise low when compared to any discussion 
>> board. I for one would like to keep it there. Political views aside, we’re 
>> all trying to achieve the same scientific goals. Let’s remember that and 
>> keep that the focus.
>> 
>> Edward Snell Ph.D.
>> President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
>> Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
>> 700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
>> Phone: (716) 898 8631 Fax: (716) 898 8660
>> Skype:  eddie.snell Email: esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu 
>> 
>> Heisenberg was probably here!


Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread William G. Scott
Dear Edward et al:

I agree we shouldn’t engage in partisan arguments on the CCP4bb.  However, I 
think it is a mistake, and perhaps a missed opportunity, to ignore politics 
completely.

For example, Newt Gingrich is currently in the running for Sec HHS.  He has 
previously written editorials in the NYT and Wall Street Journal advocating 
doubling the budget of the NIH.  

I think it is incumbent upon us to make our voices heard if such an opportunity 
arises, regardless of what one may happen to think about the individual’s 
political orientation, as it could potentially be of enormous benefit to the 
scientific community.

Yours faithfully,

William G. Scott
Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Edward Snell  wrote:
> 
> As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries ,this 
> topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably better taken 
> up privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With CCP4 the signal 
> is unusually high and the noise low when compared to any discussion board. I 
> for one would like to keep it there. Political views aside, we’re all trying 
> to achieve the same scientific goals. Let’s remember that and keep that the 
> focus.
>  
> Edward Snell Ph.D.
> President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
> Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
> 700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
> Phone: (716) 898 8631 Fax: (716) 898 8660
> Skype:  eddie.snell Email: esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu 
> 
> Heisenberg was probably here!


Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Radu Aricescu
Hi JPK,
Not sure about them, but I was a bit surprised to get this ID a couple of years ago: 4COF!
Nice structure nevertheless :-)
Best wishes,
Radu
On 9 Nov 2016 10:40 p.m., "Keller, Jacob" <kell...@janelia.hhmi.org> wrote:
>
> I recently was surprised to be looking at a structure with the unfortunate PDBID of 5HIT. I wonder what the authors thought when they got this ID back from RCSB!
>
>  
>
> JPK
>
>  
>
> From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Robbie Joosten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 4:18 PM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...
>
>  
>
> There is nothing wrong with discussing sex at work, either theorethical http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/search/structidSearch.do?structureId=1sex or experimental http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/explore/explore.do?structureId=3sex 
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>
>  
>
> Van: Reza Khayat
> Verzonden: woensdag 9 november 2016 21:43
> Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...
>
>  
>
> I Agree with Edward. No discussion of politics, religion, or sex at work.
>
>  
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Reza
>
>  
>
> Reza Khayat, PhD
>
> Assistant Professor 
>
> City College of New York
>
> Department of Chemistry
>
> New York, NY 10031
>
> 
>
> From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Gloria Borgstahl <gborgst...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 1:24 PM
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...
>
>  
>
> Eddie Snell for President
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Edward Snell <esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu> wrote:
>>
>> As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries ,this topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably better taken up privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With CCP4 the signal is unusually high and the noise low when compared to any discussion board. I for one would like to keep it there. Political views aside, we’re all trying to achieve the same scientific goals. Let’s remember that and keep that the focus.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Edward Snell Ph.D.
>>
>> President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
>>
>> Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
>>
>> 700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
>>
>> Phone: (716) 898 8631 Fax: (716) 898 8660
>>
>> Skype:  eddie.snell Email: esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu 
>>
>> Heisenberg was probably here!
>>
>>  
>
>  



Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Robbie Joosten
There is nothing wrong with discussing sex at work, either theorethical 
http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/search/structidSearch.do?structureId=1sex or 
experimental http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/explore/explore.do?structureId=3sex ??



Sent from my Windows 10 phone

Van: Reza Khayat<mailto:rkha...@ccny.cuny.edu>
Verzonden: woensdag 9 november 2016 21:43
Aan: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Onderwerp: Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle 
curiosity ...


I Agree with Edward. No discussion of politics, religion, or sex at work.


Best wishes,

Reza


Reza Khayat, PhD
Assistant Professor
City College of New York
Department of Chemistry
New York, NY 10031

From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Gloria Borgstahl 
<gborgst...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 1:24 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle 
curiosity ...

Eddie Snell for President

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Edward Snell 
<esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu<mailto:esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu>> wrote:
As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries ,this 
topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably better taken up 
privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With CCP4 the signal is 
unusually high and the noise low when compared to any discussion board. I for 
one would like to keep it there. Political views aside, we're all trying to 
achieve the same scientific goals. Let's remember that and keep that the focus.

Edward Snell Ph.D.
President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
Phone: (716) 898 8631<tel:%28716%29%20898%208631> Fax: (716) 898 
8660<tel:%28716%29%20898%208660>
Skype:  eddie.snell Email: 
esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu<mailto:esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu>
[cid:image003.png@01D23A81.3A9485D0]
Heisenberg was probably here!




Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Reza Khayat
I Agree with Edward. No discussion of politics, religion, or sex at work.


Best wishes,

Reza


Reza Khayat, PhD
Assistant Professor
City College of New York
Department of Chemistry
New York, NY 10031

From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Gloria Borgstahl 
<gborgst...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 1:24 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle 
curiosity ...

Eddie Snell for President

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Edward Snell 
<esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu<mailto:esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu>> wrote:
As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries ,this 
topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably better taken up 
privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With CCP4 the signal is 
unusually high and the noise low when compared to any discussion board. I for 
one would like to keep it there. Political views aside, we're all trying to 
achieve the same scientific goals. Let's remember that and keep that the focus.

Edward Snell Ph.D.
President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
Phone: (716) 898 8631<tel:%28716%29%20898%208631> Fax: (716) 898 
8660<tel:%28716%29%20898%208660>
Skype:  eddie.snell Email: 
esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu<mailto:esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu>
[cid:image003.png@01D23A81.3A9485D0]
Heisenberg was probably here!




Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Gloria Borgstahl
Eddie Snell for President

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Edward Snell 
wrote:

> As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries
> ,this topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably
> better taken up privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With
> CCP4 the signal is unusually high and the noise low when compared to any
> discussion board. I for one would like to keep it there. Political views
> aside, we’re all trying to achieve the same scientific goals. Let’s
> remember that and keep that the focus.
>
>
>
> Edward Snell Ph.D.
>
> President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
>
> Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
>
> 700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
>
> Phone: (716) 898 8631 Fax: (716) 898 8660
>
> Skype:  eddie.snell Email: esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu
>
> Heisenberg was probably here!
>
>
>


Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Klaus Fütterer
I would concur with Ed. I can understand the emotions, but political shouting 
should be done elsewhere. 

Let’s remain civil. 

Klaus


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> On 9 Nov 2016, at 17:02, Edward Snell  wrote:
> 
> As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries ,this 
> topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably better taken 
> up privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With CCP4 the signal 
> is unusually high and the noise low when compared to any discussion board. I 
> for one would like to keep it there. Political views aside, we’re all trying 
> to achieve the same scientific goals. Let’s remember that and keep that the 
> focus.
>  
> Edward Snell Ph.D.
> President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
> Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
> 700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
> Phone: (716) 898 8631 Fax: (716) 898 8660
> Skype:  eddie.snell Email: esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu 
> 
> Heisenberg was probably here!
>  



Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread James Foadi
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!important; }  I totally agree with you, Edward!
James


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As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries ,this 
topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably better taken up 
privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With CCP4 the signal is 
unusually high and the noise low when compared to any discussion board. I for 
one would like to keep it there. Political views aside, we’re all trying to 
achieve the same scientific goals. Let’s remember that and keep that the focus.
 
  
 
Edward Snell Ph.D.
 
President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
 
Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
 
700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
 
Phone: (716) 898 8631 Fax: (716) 898 8660
 
Skype:  eddie.snell Email: esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu 
 

 
Heisenberg was probably here!

  
 
 



Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Edward Snell
As a Brexit and Trumpet affected person having a foot in both countries ,this 
topic is too far off the normal discussion on CCP4 and probably better taken up 
privately.  CCP4 is not a political discussion site. With CCP4 the signal is 
unusually high and the noise low when compared to any discussion board. I for 
one would like to keep it there. Political views aside, we’re all trying to 
achieve the same scientific goals. Let’s remember that and keep that the focus.

Edward Snell Ph.D.
President and CEO Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, University at Buffalo
700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
Phone: (716) 898 8631 Fax: (716) 898 8660
Skype:  eddie.snell Email: esn...@hwi.buffalo.edu
[cid:image003.png@01D23A81.3A9485D0]
Heisenberg was probably here!



Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Artem Evdokimov
You are kidding right?

Artem

On Nov 9, 2016 11:53 AM, "John Hardin"  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I fully understand that I will be labeled as ignorant and that I will
> likely be hated because of my views,
> but I am thrilled that Hillary lost this election.
>
> The United States has embarked on a path of immorality,
> and I am excited by the possibility of restoring the moral character and a
> measure of integrity to this once great land (“drain the swamp”).
>
> I hate to see you all go, but perhaps it is best.
> Particularly if you are no longer able see that the pursuit of a morally
> upright society is actually a good and worthy goal.
>
> Best,
> John
>


Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread David Briggs
Moral? Donald Trump? Really?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016, 17:53 John Hardin  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I fully understand that I will be labeled as ignorant and that I will
> likely be hated because of my views,
> but I am thrilled that Hillary lost this election.
>
> The United States has embarked on a path of immorality,
> and I am excited by the possibility of restoring the moral character and a
> measure of integrity to this once great land (“drain the swamp”).
>
> I hate to see you all go, but perhaps it is best.
> Particularly if you are no longer able see that the pursuit of a morally
> upright society is actually a good and worthy goal.
>
> Best,
> John
>
-- 


[image: --]

David Briggs PhD
[image: https://]about.me/david_briggs



Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread John Hardin
Greetings,

I fully understand that I will be labeled as ignorant and that I will likely be 
hated because of my views, 
but I am thrilled that Hillary lost this election.

The United States has embarked on a path of immorality,
and I am excited by the possibility of restoring the moral character and a 
measure of integrity to this once great land (“drain the swamp”).

I hate to see you all go, but perhaps it is best.
Particularly if you are no longer able see that the pursuit of a morally 
upright society is actually a good and worthy goal.

Best,
John


Re: [ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Stefan Arold
US elections, UK BREXIT, Colombia referendum . . . if you are fed up with
democracy, consider kingdoms. Middle East is still investing into science,
technology and education!

Cheers,
Stefan


On 9 November 2016 at 16:22, Noam Adir  wrote:

> Dear Ian,
>
>
>
> I have always thought that this saying, attributed to Lincoln, is sorely
> lacking the finishing touch, which is: “in a democracy, it is sufficient to
> fool enough of the people at the right time”. Today’s results are a prime
> example.
>
>
>
> --Noam
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *Ian
> Tickle
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 2:25 PM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> Abraham Lincoln was right, or at least this famous quote was attributed to
> him in a speech he gave in Clinton (yes!), Illinois:
>
> "You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people
> all of the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
>
> https://www.academia.edu/2506410/A_New_Look_at_You_Can_
> Fool_All_the_People_
>
> Cheers
>
> -- Ian
>
>
>
> On 9 November 2016 at 09:49, Roberto Battistutta <
> roberto.battistu...@unipd.it> wrote:
>
> A note of optimism ... in Italy we could survive to Berlusconi ...
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Roberto.
>
>
>
> Inizio messaggio inoltrato:
>
>
>
> *Da: *"William G. Scott" 
>
> *Data: *09 novembre 2016 06.37.30 GMT+01.00
>
> *A: *CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
> *Oggetto: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...*
>
> *Rispondi a: *"William G. Scott" 
>
>
>
> What’s the job situation in Europe looking like for refugee scientists
> these days?
>
>
>
> William G. Scott
> Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
> Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
> University of California at Santa Cruz
> Santa Cruz, California 95064
> USA
>
> http://scottlab.ucsc.edu
>
>
>
>
>
> Roberto Battistutta
>
> Associate Professor
> Department of Chemical Sciences
> University of Padua
> via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY
> tel. +39.049.827.5262
> fax. +39.049.827.5829
> roberto.battistu...@unipd.it
> www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/
>
>
>
>
>


[ccp4bb] FW: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-09 Thread Noam Adir
Dear Ian,

I have always thought that this saying, attributed to Lincoln, is sorely 
lacking the finishing touch, which is: “in a democracy, it is sufficient to 
fool enough of the people at the right time”. Today’s results are a prime 
example.

--Noam



From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Ian Tickle
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 2:25 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...


Abraham Lincoln was right, or at least this famous quote was attributed to him 
in a speech he gave in Clinton (yes!), Illinois:
"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of 
the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

https://www.academia.edu/2506410/A_New_Look_at_You_Can_Fool_All_the_People_
Cheers
-- Ian

On 9 November 2016 at 09:49, Roberto Battistutta 
> wrote:
A note of optimism ... in Italy we could survive to Berlusconi ...

Best,
Roberto.

Inizio messaggio inoltrato:


Da: "William G. Scott" >
Data: 09 novembre 2016 06.37.30 GMT+01.00
A: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Oggetto: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...
Rispondi a: "William G. Scott" >

What’s the job situation in Europe looking like for refugee scientists these 
days?



William G. Scott
Director, Program in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Professor, Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
University of California at Santa Cruz
Santa Cruz, California 95064
USA

http://scottlab.ucsc.edu


Roberto Battistutta
Associate Professor
Department of Chemical Sciences
University of Padua
via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY
tel. +39.049.827.5262
fax. +39.049.827.5829
roberto.battistu...@unipd.it
www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/