[ccp4bb] Ligand weak density in SHELXL

2010-06-07 Thread Fatima Fonseca
Dear all,

I solved the structure of an enzyme at resolution of 1.1A with a bound 
substrate using Refmac5 and Coot for refinement/building. I have a very nice 
density for my ligand and a very good structure, as judged by Molprobity 
analysis.

Now I'm using SHELXL to finish refinement but most of the density for my ligand 
disappears when I put it in, and it gets very high B factors. I though it could 
be some problem with the occupancy so I did a set of runs with different 
occupancies ranging from 0.2 to 1 and I got the best R factors when using 
0.4/0.5 for the occupancy.

However, I still have most of the ligand outside electron density… In Coot I 
get no ligand with “Find ligand” even when I reduce the cluster sigma level to 
0.8.

What am I missing here?

Just another question, how to reduce the acceptable fit fraction in Coot “Find 
ligand”?

Thanks for any advice,
Fátima


Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand weak density in SHELXL

2010-06-07 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Fatima,

just a couple of things you may consider:
- you can let shelxl refine the occupancy by assigning a free variable to the
  whole ligand
- did you refine the structure anisotropically? At this resolution you certainly
  should.
- maybe you made a mistake converting the files from refmac to shelxl, e.g. you
  might have used amplitudes where shelxl expects intensities or vice versa.

Good luck, Tim

On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 05:46:01PM +0100, Fatima Fonseca wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I solved the structure of an enzyme at resolution of 1.1A with a bound 
 substrate using Refmac5 and Coot for refinement/building. I have a very nice 
 density for my ligand and a very good structure, as judged by Molprobity 
 analysis.
 
 Now I'm using SHELXL to finish refinement but most of the density for my 
 ligand disappears when I put it in, and it gets very high B factors. I though 
 it could be some problem with the occupancy so I did a set of runs with 
 different occupancies ranging from 0.2 to 1 and I got the best R factors when 
 using 0.4/0.5 for the occupancy.
 
 However, I still have most of the ligand outside electron density… In Coot I 
 get no ligand with “Find ligand” even when I reduce the cluster sigma level 
 to 0.8.
 
 What am I missing here?
 
 Just another question, how to reduce the acceptable fit fraction in Coot 
 “Find ligand”?
 
 Thanks for any advice,
 Fátima

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Re: [ccp4bb] Ligand weak density in SHELXL

2010-06-07 Thread Fátima Fonseca

Dear Tim,

Thanks for your advice.

I am refining my structure anisotropically.
 
If, as you suggested, I did something wrong converting 
files to use in SHELXL I would expect that the whole 
structure to have problems or am I wrong?


And how can I assign a free variable to the whole ligand? 
I've just started using SHELXL.


Best,
Fátima



Em Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:54:07 +0200
 Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de escreveu:

Dear Fatima,

just a couple of things you may consider:
- you can let shelxl refine the occupancy by assigning a 
free variable to the

 whole ligand
- did you refine the structure anisotropically? At this 
resolution you certainly

 should.
- maybe you made a mistake converting the files from 
refmac to shelxl, e.g. you
 might have used amplitudes where shelxl expects 
intensities or vice versa.


Good luck, Tim

On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 05:46:01PM +0100, Fatima Fonseca 
wrote:

Dear all,

I solved the structure of an enzyme at resolution of 
1.1A with a bound substrate using Refmac5 and Coot for 
refinement/building. I have a very nice density for my 
ligand and a very good structure, as judged by Molprobity 
analysis.


Now I'm using SHELXL to finish refinement but most of 
the density for my ligand disappears when I put it in, 
and it gets very high B factors. I though it could be 
some problem with the occupancy so I did a set of runs 
with different occupancies ranging from 0.2 to 1 and I 
got the best R factors when using 0.4/0.5 for the 
occupancy.


However, I still have most of the ligand outside 
electron density… In Coot I get no ligand with “Find 
ligand” even when I reduce the cluster sigma level to 
0.8.


What am I missing here?

Just another question, how to reduce the acceptable fit 
fraction in Coot “Find ligand”?


Thanks for any advice,
Fátima


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--
Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A



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