Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and disulfides

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Picot

Hi Reza,
You have here an example of MAD data collected fromoxidized  and 
reducedselenomethionine-containing protein:
It states :"phasing power of theoxidized  data is doubled for the dispersive 
signal and is 20% stronger
for theanomalous  signal at the peak wavelength"

Thomazeau K, Curien G, Thompson A, Dumas R, Biou V.
MAD on threonine synthase: the phasing power of oxidized selenomethionine.
Acta Crystallogr D Biol Crystallogr. 2001 Sep;57(Pt 9):1337-40. Epub 2001 Aug 
23.
PubMed PMID: 11526338.

Daniel


Le 27/02/2014 17:05, Reza Khayat a écrit :

Hi,

I'm sure this question has been addressed before and I
apologize for asking it again. I'm working on a protein
predicted to have multiple disulfide bonds. The protein is
expressed in an E. coli strain with an "oxidizing" cytoplasm,
and is purified under nonreducing conditions (no DTT, b-
ME...). I'd like to produce some Se-Met incorporated protein
for phasing. Given that Se-Met can oxidize, its anomalous
scattering is dependent on its oxidation state, and a mixture
of oxidized and reduced Se-Met makes phasing difficult, what
is the suggested protocol to follow in my situation? Here's
hoping that the solution is not dumping a bunch of Se-Met into
all the purification buffers...

Best wishes,
Reza

Reza Khayat, PhD
Assistant Professor
The City College of New York
Department of Chemistry, MR-1135
160 Convent Avenue
New York, NY  10031
Tel. (212) 650-6070


 Original message 

Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:22:10 +
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of Vicky Tsirkoni )

Subject: [ccp4bb]
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

   Hi Prerana,
   You could try 4°C as well (dont forget to use
   lower protein concentration) in my case this worked
   better.
   Cheers,
   Vicky G. Tsirkone, MSc
   Laboratory for Biocrystallography
   Department of Pharmaceutical and Pharmacological
   Sciences
   KU Leuven
   O&N II Herestraat 49 - box 822
   3000 Leuven | Belgium
   Tel.: +32 16 3 23419
   e-mail: vicky.tsirk...@pharm.kuleuven.be

   

   From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on
   behalf of Prerana G. [tracy...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:23 PM
   To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
   Subject: [ccp4bb]
   Hi Vicky,
   I tried to change the ratio of paraffin:silicon oil
   to 1:2, but still the protein precipitated. So I
   tried to do it other way round, I kept
   paraffin:silicon oil ratio as 2:1 and so far it has
   not precipitated. Apart from that, I separately used
   the two oils.In silicon oil there was immediate
   precipitation, but none in parafin oil.
   Prerana




Re: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and disulfides

2014-02-27 Thread Bert Van-Den-Berg
I wouldn't worry about oxidation of SeMet; at least I never have. A number of 
years back there was a paper published actually claiming that oxidised SeMet 
has a higher and sharper absorption edge than reduced SeMet. Of course mixed 
forms could complicate things but I would just purify like you do for the WT 
protein.

Bert

From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Reza Khayat 
[rkha...@ccny.cuny.edu]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:05 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Se-Met and disulfides

Hi,

I'm sure this question has been addressed before and I
apologize for asking it again. I'm working on a protein
predicted to have multiple disulfide bonds. The protein is
expressed in an E. coli strain with an "oxidizing" cytoplasm,
and is purified under nonreducing conditions (no DTT, b-
ME...). I'd like to produce some Se-Met incorporated protein
for phasing. Given that Se-Met can oxidize, its anomalous
scattering is dependent on its oxidation state, and a mixture
of oxidized and reduced Se-Met makes phasing difficult, what
is the suggested protocol to follow in my situation? Here's
hoping that the solution is not dumping a bunch of Se-Met into
all the purification buffers...

Best wishes,
Reza

Reza Khayat, PhD
Assistant Professor
The City College of New York
Department of Chemistry, MR-1135
160 Convent Avenue
New York, NY  10031
Tel. (212) 650-6070


 Original message 
>Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:22:10 +
>From: CCP4 bulletin board  (on behalf
of Vicky Tsirkoni )
>Subject: [ccp4bb]
>To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
>   Hi Prerana,
>   You could try 4°C as well (dont forget to use
>   lower protein concentration) in my case this worked
>   better.
>   Cheers,
>   Vicky G. Tsirkone, MSc
>   Laboratory for Biocrystallography
>   Department of Pharmaceutical and Pharmacological
>   Sciences
>   KU Leuven
>   O&N II Herestraat 49 - box 822
>   3000 Leuven | Belgium
>   Tel.: +32 16 3 23419
>   e-mail: vicky.tsirk...@pharm.kuleuven.be
>
>   
>
>   From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on
>   behalf of Prerana G. [tracy...@gmail.com]
>   Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:23 PM
>   To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>   Subject: [ccp4bb]
>   Hi Vicky,
>   I tried to change the ratio of paraffin:silicon oil
>   to 1:2, but still the protein precipitated. So I
>   tried to do it other way round, I kept
>   paraffin:silicon oil ratio as 2:1 and so far it has
>   not precipitated. Apart from that, I separately used
>   the two oils.In silicon oil there was immediate
>   precipitation, but none in parafin oil.
>   Prerana


[ccp4bb] Se-Met and disulfides

2014-02-27 Thread Reza Khayat
Hi,

I'm sure this question has been addressed before and I 
apologize for asking it again. I'm working on a protein 
predicted to have multiple disulfide bonds. The protein is 
expressed in an E. coli strain with an "oxidizing" cytoplasm, 
and is purified under nonreducing conditions (no DTT, b-
ME...). I'd like to produce some Se-Met incorporated protein 
for phasing. Given that Se-Met can oxidize, its anomalous 
scattering is dependent on its oxidation state, and a mixture 
of oxidized and reduced Se-Met makes phasing difficult, what 
is the suggested protocol to follow in my situation? Here's 
hoping that the solution is not dumping a bunch of Se-Met into 
all the purification buffers...  

Best wishes,
Reza

Reza Khayat, PhD
Assistant Professor
The City College of New York
Department of Chemistry, MR-1135
160 Convent Avenue
New York, NY  10031
Tel. (212) 650-6070


 Original message 
>Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 11:22:10 +
>From: CCP4 bulletin board  (on behalf 
of Vicky Tsirkoni )
>Subject: [ccp4bb]  
>To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
>   Hi Prerana,
>   You could try 4°C as well (dont forget to use
>   lower protein concentration) in my case this worked
>   better.
>   Cheers,
>   Vicky G. Tsirkone, MSc
>   Laboratory for Biocrystallography
>   Department of Pharmaceutical and Pharmacological
>   Sciences
>   KU Leuven
>   O&N II Herestraat 49 - box 822
>   3000 Leuven | Belgium
>   Tel.: +32 16 3 23419
>   e-mail: vicky.tsirk...@pharm.kuleuven.be
>
>   
>
>   From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on
>   behalf of Prerana G. [tracy...@gmail.com]
>   Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:23 PM
>   To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>   Subject: [ccp4bb]
>   Hi Vicky,
>   I tried to change the ratio of paraffin:silicon oil
>   to 1:2, but still the protein precipitated. So I
>   tried to do it other way round, I kept
>   paraffin:silicon oil ratio as 2:1 and so far it has
>   not precipitated. Apart from that, I separately used
>   the two oils.In silicon oil there was immediate
>   precipitation, but none in parafin oil.
>   Prerana