Re: [ccp4bb] To solve the problem of an extremely asymmetric peak shape obtained from gel filtration chromatography

2020-12-09 Thread Artem Evdokimov 
Probably a good idea to share an image :) worth many words...

Artem

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 9:17 AM   wrote:

> Dear All
> There is a 43kd protein purified via Ni-chelating affinity
> chromatography, anion exchange chromatography and gel filtration
> chromatography in sequence. However the chromatogram obtained showed an
> extremely asymmetric peak shape. The aggregation forms of proteins are
> mainly in the range of monomers and dimers(Hepes and low concentration of
> salt were used as buffers for gel filtration chromatography). 5% glycerinum
> and 1mM Benzamidine hydrochloride had been added in order to maintain the
> stability of the protein and prevent it from degrading. But well, all the
> efforts seem to be useless. We wonder if there are any effective measures
> can be taken to radically solve this problem. We would be much indebted for
> the suggestions you offer.
>
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Re: [ccp4bb] To solve the problem of an extremely asymmetric peak shape obtained from gel filtration chromatography

2020-12-09 Thread Ross Robinson 
It would be sensible to analyse the state of your purified protein further.

  *   (SEC in reasonable salt conc containing buffer – this is standard 
practice)
  *   Analytical ion exchange of purified protein - are there different states?
  *   SEC  (in reasonable buffer) in line with MALS – is there a monomer-dimer 
equilibrium?
  *   Analytical SEC (without further concentration) of the potential dimer 
side of the peak, repeat for monomer side – could give info on potential 
monomer-dimer equilibrium

Cheers,
Ross



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Sent: 09 December 2020 14:52
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] To solve the problem of an extremely asymmetric peak 
shape obtained from gel filtration chromatography

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Hello, I agree with Roger, you should definitely try to increase the salt 
concentration to get rid of non specific binding impurities. And if that 
doesn't work, you can try purifying your protein under denaturing conditions by 
adding one refolding step in the column.
Good luck,
Javier

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:26 AM Roger Rowlett 
mailto:rrowl...@colgate.edu>> wrote:
Salt concentrations less than 100 mM can lead to nonspecific adsorption to the 
gel exclusion media, potentially leading to band broadening, and delayed 
elution.  Overloading gel exclusion columns (more than 2-4% Vt) can also lead 
to elution band artifacts. Check these issues first.

Roger Rowlett
Gordon & Dorothy Kline Professor, Emeritus
Department of Chemistry
Colgate University

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 9:17 AM  
mailto:sz20203020...@cau.edu.cn>> wrote:
Dear All
There is a 43kd protein purified via Ni-chelating affinity 
chromatography, anion exchange chromatography and gel filtration chromatography 
in sequence. However the chromatogram obtained showed an extremely asymmetric 
peak shape. The aggregation forms of proteins are mainly in the range of 
monomers and dimers(Hepes and low concentration of salt were used as buffers 
for gel filtration chromatography). 5% glycerinum and 1mM Benzamidine 
hydrochloride had been added in order to maintain the stability of the protein 
and prevent it from degrading. But well, all the efforts seem to be useless. We 
wonder if there are any effective measures can be taken to radically solve this 
problem. We would be much indebted for the suggestions you offer.


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Re: [ccp4bb] To solve the problem of an extremely asymmetric peak shape obtained from gel filtration chromatography

2020-12-09 Thread Javier Gonzalez 
Hello, I agree with Roger, you should definitely try to increase the salt
concentration to get rid of non specific binding impurities. And if that
doesn't work, you can try purifying your protein under denaturing
conditions by adding one refolding step in the column.
Good luck,
Javier

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:26 AM Roger Rowlett  wrote:

> Salt concentrations less than 100 mM can lead to nonspecific adsorption to
> the gel exclusion media, potentially leading to band broadening, and
> delayed elution.  Overloading gel exclusion columns (more than 2-4% Vt) can
> also lead to elution band artifacts. Check these issues first.
>
> Roger Rowlett
> Gordon & Dorothy Kline Professor, Emeritus
> Department of Chemistry
> Colgate University
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 9:17 AM   wrote:
>
>> Dear All
>> There is a 43kd protein purified via Ni-chelating affinity
>> chromatography, anion exchange chromatography and gel filtration
>> chromatography in sequence. However the chromatogram obtained showed an
>> extremely asymmetric peak shape. The aggregation forms of proteins are
>> mainly in the range of monomers and dimers(Hepes and low concentration of
>> salt were used as buffers for gel filtration chromatography). 5% glycerinum
>> and 1mM Benzamidine hydrochloride had been added in order to maintain the
>> stability of the protein and prevent it from degrading. But well, all the
>> efforts seem to be useless. We wonder if there are any effective measures
>> can be taken to radically solve this problem. We would be much indebted for
>> the suggestions you offer.
>>
>> --
>>
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Universidad Nacional de Santiago del Estero (UNSE)
RN9, Km 1125. Villa El Zanjón. (G4206XCP)
Santiago del Estero. Argentina
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Re: [ccp4bb] To solve the problem of an extremely asymmetric peak shape obtained from gel filtration chromatography

2020-12-09 Thread Roger Rowlett 
Salt concentrations less than 100 mM can lead to nonspecific adsorption to
the gel exclusion media, potentially leading to band broadening, and
delayed elution.  Overloading gel exclusion columns (more than 2-4% Vt) can
also lead to elution band artifacts. Check these issues first.

Roger Rowlett
Gordon & Dorothy Kline Professor, Emeritus
Department of Chemistry
Colgate University

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, 9:17 AM   wrote:

> Dear All
> There is a 43kd protein purified via Ni-chelating affinity
> chromatography, anion exchange chromatography and gel filtration
> chromatography in sequence. However the chromatogram obtained showed an
> extremely asymmetric peak shape. The aggregation forms of proteins are
> mainly in the range of monomers and dimers(Hepes and low concentration of
> salt were used as buffers for gel filtration chromatography). 5% glycerinum
> and 1mM Benzamidine hydrochloride had been added in order to maintain the
> stability of the protein and prevent it from degrading. But well, all the
> efforts seem to be useless. We wonder if there are any effective measures
> can be taken to radically solve this problem. We would be much indebted for
> the suggestions you offer.
>
> --
>
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[ccp4bb] To solve the problem of an extremely asymmetric peak shape obtained from gel filtration chromatography

2020-12-09 Thread 
Dear All
There is a 43kd protein purified via Ni-chelating affinity 
chromatography, anion exchange chromatography and gel filtration chromatography 
in sequence. However the chromatogram obtained showed an extremely asymmetric 
peak shape. The aggregation forms of proteins are mainly in the range of 
monomers and dimers(Hepes and low concentration of salt were used as buffers 
for gel filtration chromatography). 5% glycerinum and 1mM Benzamidine 
hydrochloride had been added in order to maintain the stability of the protein 
and prevent it from degrading. But well, all the efforts seem to be useless. We 
wonder if there are any effective measures can be taken to radically solve this 
problem. We would be much indebted for the suggestions you offer.




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