Re: [ccp4bb] changing resolution bins statistics in CORRECT.LP

2013-01-16 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Sebastiano,

sorry, it is not possible. Indeed, only XCSALE allows you to define the 
resolution ranges yourself.

HTH,

Kay

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:22:14 +0100, Sebastiano Pasqualato 
sebastiano.pasqual...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi all,
I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number of resolution bins 
appearing in the table:

SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE = -3.0 AS FUNCTION OF RESOLUTION

of CORRECT.LP.

Please, note that I am not referring to the table output by XSCALE, in which 
you can change the resolution bins with the keyword RESOLUTION_SHELLS=, but 
rather the table output by the CORRECT job of XDS.

Thanks in advance,
ciao,
Sebastiano


Re: [ccp4bb] changing resolution bins statistics in CORRECT.LP

2013-01-16 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear Sebastiano,

you could use xprep to get the statistics in user defined resolution
shells.

Out of curiosity: Would you mind sharing why you want to do this and
why you don't want to use the XSCALE statistics instead? The
statistics are probably more meaningful after scaling, I guess.

Best,
Tim

On 01/15/2013 04:22 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
 
 Hi all, I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number of
 resolution bins appearing in the table:
 
 SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE = -3.0 AS FUNCTION OF
 RESOLUTION
 
 of CORRECT.LP.
 
 Please, note that I am not referring to the table output by XSCALE,
 in which you can change the resolution bins with the keyword
 RESOLUTION_SHELLS=, but rather the table output by the CORRECT job
 of XDS.
 
 Thanks in advance, ciao, Sebastiano
 
 

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] changing resolution bins statistics in CORRECT.LP

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato

Thanks to Kay and Tim or the feedback.

The reason I wanted to get statistics from the CORRECT step of XDS is that I 
have refined a structure using the mtz output by the GO.COM automatic reduction 
routine of SLS beamline PXIII, which does not involve a scaling step (I 
discovered recently).
I was willing to have the integration statistics of the reflection file I used 
in the refinement's high resolution bin.
I will definitely give xprep a try.

Another question that raised by looking deeper into their automatic procedure 
(thanks Meitian for the help) is that when integrating with XDS CORRECT keeping 
the FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE or =FALSE I get a different number of reflections in the 
final mtz.

In my case, if I run the same XDS.INP script and change only the FRIEDEL'S_LAW 
flag, I obtain:


=TRUE: 11551 reflections

 *  Resolution Range :

0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )

 * Sort Order :

  1 2 3 0 0

 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)



 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111
 === 


 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution   Type 
Column
 num order   Missing complete  abs.   LowHigh   
label 

   1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00   H  H
   2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22   3.00   H  K
   3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2  48.22   3.00   H  L
   4 NONE1.4   292.0 0  100.0019.4019.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP
   5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00 0.70 0.70  48.22   3.00   Q  
SIGFP
   6 NONE0.0 1.0 0  100.00 0.95 0.95  48.22   3.00   I  
FreeRflag


 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11551


=FALSE: 11643 reflections

 * Cell Dimensions : (obsolete - refer to dataset cell dimensions above)

  100.5450  100.5450   96.4500   90.   90.  120. 

 *  Resolution Range :

0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )

 * Sort Order :

  1 2 3 0 0

 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)



 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111
 === 


 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution   Type 
Column
 num order   Missing complete  abs.   LowHigh   
label 

   1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00   H  H
   2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22   3.00   H  K
   3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2  48.22   3.00   H  L
   4 NONE1.4   291.9 0  100.0019.4019.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP
   5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00 0.67 0.67  48.22   3.00   Q  
SIGFP
   6 NONE  -13.613.269   99.41-0.01 0.69  48.22   3.00   D  DANO
   7 NONE0.0 5.769   99.41 1.13 1.13  48.22   3.00   Q  
SIGDANO
   8 NONE 0   2  0  100.00  0.0  0.0  48.22   3.00   Y  ISYM
   9 NONE0.0 1.0 0  100.00 0.95 0.95  48.22   3.00   I  
FreeRflag


 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11643


Aren't they supposed to be the exact same number?

Thanks,
ciao,
s


On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:

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 Dear Sebastiano,
 
 you could use xprep to get the statistics in user defined resolution
 shells.
 
 Out of curiosity: Would you mind sharing why you want to do this and
 why you don't want to use the XSCALE statistics instead? The
 statistics are probably more meaningful after scaling, I guess.
 
 Best,
 Tim
 
 On 01/15/2013 04:22 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
 
 Hi all, I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number of
 resolution bins appearing in the table:
 
 SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE = -3.0 AS FUNCTION OF
 RESOLUTION
 
 of CORRECT.LP.
 
 Please, note that I am not referring to the table output by XSCALE,
 in which you can change the resolution bins with the keyword
 RESOLUTION_SHELLS=, but rather the table output by the CORRECT job
 of XDS.
 
 Thanks in advance, ciao, Sebastiano
 
 
 
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 Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
 Tammannstr. 4
 D-37077 Goettingen
 
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Re: [ccp4bb] changing resolution bins statistics in CORRECT.LP

2013-01-16 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear Sebastiano,

if the output of GO.COM produces an mtz-file you can use for phasing
or refinement, I am very confident there is a scaling step involved.
This might also be an explanation for the discrepancy you point out:
With FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE the statistics which affects the rejection of
outliers would have more reflections within each group of symmetry
related reflections and hence a greater spread which might lead to the
rejection of some of the classes. But this is a mere guess.

Cheers,
Tim

On 01/16/2013 02:03 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
 
 Thanks to Kay and Tim or the feedback.
 
 The reason I wanted to get statistics from the CORRECT step of XDS
 is that I have refined a structure using the mtz output by the
 GO.COM automatic reduction routine of SLS beamline PXIII, which
 does not involve a scaling step (I discovered recently). I was
 willing to have the integration statistics of the reflection file I
 used in the refinement's high resolution bin. I will definitely
 give xprep a try.
 
 Another question that raised by looking deeper into their automatic
 procedure (thanks Meitian for the help) is that when integrating
 with XDS CORRECT keeping the FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE or =FALSE I get a
 different number of reflections in the final mtz.
 
 In my case, if I run the same XDS.INP script and change only the
 FRIEDEL'S_LAW flag, I obtain:
 
 
 =TRUE: 11551 reflections
 
 *  Resolution Range :
 
 0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )
 
 * Sort Order :
 
 1 2 3 0 0
 
 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)
 
 
 
 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111 
 ===
 
 
 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution
 Type Column num order   Missing complete  abs.
 LowHigh   label
 
 1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00
 H  H 2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22
 3.00   H  K 3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2
 48.22   3.00   H  L 4 NONE1.4   292.0 0  100.0019.40
 19.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP 5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00
 0.70 0.70  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGFP 6 NONE0.0 1.0 0
 100.00 0.95 0.95  48.22   3.00   I  FreeRflag
 
 
 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11551
 
 
 =FALSE: 11643 reflections
 
 * Cell Dimensions : (obsolete - refer to dataset cell dimensions
 above)
 
 100.5450  100.5450   96.4500   90.   90.  120.
 
 *  Resolution Range :
 
 0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )
 
 * Sort Order :
 
 1 2 3 0 0
 
 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)
 
 
 
 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111 
 ===
 
 
 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution
 Type Column num order   Missing complete  abs.
 LowHigh   label
 
 1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00
 H  H 2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22
 3.00   H  K 3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2
 48.22   3.00   H  L 4 NONE1.4   291.9 0  100.0019.40
 19.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP 5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00
 0.67 0.67  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGFP 6 NONE  -13.613.269
 99.41-0.01 0.69  48.22   3.00   D  DANO 7 NONE0.0
 5.769   99.41 1.13 1.13  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGDANO 8
 NONE 0   2  0  100.00  0.0  0.0  48.22   3.00
 Y  ISYM 9 NONE0.0 1.0 0  100.00 0.95 0.95
 48.22   3.00   I  FreeRflag
 
 
 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11643
 
 
 Aren't they supposed to be the exact same number?
 
 Thanks, ciao, s
 
 
 On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de
 wrote:
 
 Dear Sebastiano,
 
 you could use xprep to get the statistics in user defined
 resolution shells.
 
 Out of curiosity: Would you mind sharing why you want to do this
 and why you don't want to use the XSCALE statistics instead? The 
 statistics are probably more meaningful after scaling, I guess.
 
 Best, Tim
 
 On 01/15/2013 04:22 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
 
 Hi all, I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number
 of resolution bins appearing in the table:
 
 SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE = -3.0 AS
 FUNCTION OF RESOLUTION
 
 of CORRECT.LP.
 
 Please, note that I am not referring to the table output by
 XSCALE, in which you can change the resolution bins with the
 keyword RESOLUTION_SHELLS=, but rather the table output by
 the CORRECT job of XDS.
 
 Thanks in advance, ciao, Sebastiano
 
 
 
 
 

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- --
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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] changing resolution bins statistics in CORRECT.LP

2013-01-16 Thread Graeme Winter
The XDS CORRECT step will also (by default) do scaling - if I
understand correctly the same scaling as in XSCALE, but for a single
sweep and with no zero-dose.

If what you want is merging statistics, I find it helpful to write out
the data unmerged and then use pointless -c and aimless to merge the
data (with scales constant) which provides a very nice summary.

Best wishes,

Graeme

On 16 January 2013 13:19, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:
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 Dear Sebastiano,

 if the output of GO.COM produces an mtz-file you can use for phasing
 or refinement, I am very confident there is a scaling step involved.
 This might also be an explanation for the discrepancy you point out:
 With FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE the statistics which affects the rejection of
 outliers would have more reflections within each group of symmetry
 related reflections and hence a greater spread which might lead to the
 rejection of some of the classes. But this is a mere guess.

 Cheers,
 Tim

 On 01/16/2013 02:03 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:

 Thanks to Kay and Tim or the feedback.

 The reason I wanted to get statistics from the CORRECT step of XDS
 is that I have refined a structure using the mtz output by the
 GO.COM automatic reduction routine of SLS beamline PXIII, which
 does not involve a scaling step (I discovered recently). I was
 willing to have the integration statistics of the reflection file I
 used in the refinement's high resolution bin. I will definitely
 give xprep a try.

 Another question that raised by looking deeper into their automatic
 procedure (thanks Meitian for the help) is that when integrating
 with XDS CORRECT keeping the FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE or =FALSE I get a
 different number of reflections in the final mtz.

 In my case, if I run the same XDS.INP script and change only the
 FRIEDEL'S_LAW flag, I obtain:


 =TRUE: 11551 reflections

 *  Resolution Range :

 0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )

 * Sort Order :

 1 2 3 0 0

 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)



 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111
 ===


 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution
 Type Column num order   Missing complete  abs.
 LowHigh   label

 1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00
 H  H 2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22
 3.00   H  K 3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2
 48.22   3.00   H  L 4 NONE1.4   292.0 0  100.0019.40
 19.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP 5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00
 0.70 0.70  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGFP 6 NONE0.0 1.0 0
 100.00 0.95 0.95  48.22   3.00   I  FreeRflag


 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11551


 =FALSE: 11643 reflections

 * Cell Dimensions : (obsolete - refer to dataset cell dimensions
 above)

 100.5450  100.5450   96.4500   90.   90.  120.

 *  Resolution Range :

 0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )

 * Sort Order :

 1 2 3 0 0

 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)



 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111
 ===


 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution
 Type Column num order   Missing complete  abs.
 LowHigh   label

 1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00
 H  H 2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22
 3.00   H  K 3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2
 48.22   3.00   H  L 4 NONE1.4   291.9 0  100.0019.40
 19.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP 5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00
 0.67 0.67  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGFP 6 NONE  -13.613.269
 99.41-0.01 0.69  48.22   3.00   D  DANO 7 NONE0.0
 5.769   99.41 1.13 1.13  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGDANO 8
 NONE 0   2  0  100.00  0.0  0.0  48.22   3.00
 Y  ISYM 9 NONE0.0 1.0 0  100.00 0.95 0.95
 48.22   3.00   I  FreeRflag


 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11643


 Aren't they supposed to be the exact same number?

 Thanks, ciao, s


 On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de
 wrote:

 Dear Sebastiano,

 you could use xprep to get the statistics in user defined
 resolution shells.

 Out of curiosity: Would you mind sharing why you want to do this
 and why you don't want to use the XSCALE statistics instead? The
 statistics are probably more meaningful after scaling, I guess.

 Best, Tim

 On 01/15/2013 04:22 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:

 Hi all, I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number
 of resolution bins appearing in the table:

 SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE = -3.0 AS
 FUNCTION OF RESOLUTION

 of CORRECT.LP.

 Please, note that I am not referring to the table output by
 XSCALE, in which you can change 

Re: [ccp4bb] changing resolution bins statistics in CORRECT.LP

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato

On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:

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 Dear Sebastiano,
 
 if the output of GO.COM produces an mtz-file you can use for phasing
 or refinement, I am very confident there is a scaling step involved.

Sorry, my bad.
I meant there's no XSCALE nor scala that has been run. CORRECT does the scaling.

 This might also be an explanation for the discrepancy you point out:
 With FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE the statistics which affects the rejection of
 outliers would have more reflections within each group of symmetry
 related reflections and hence a greater spread which might lead to the
 rejection of some of the classes. But this is a mere guess.

The way I performed the two runs was by running CORRECT step of XDS followed by 
XDSCONV, f2mtz and cad.

When working with the FRIEDEL'S_LAW flag on, CORRECT outputs F(+), F(-) but 
also merged F.
I was expecting those were merged identically to the case in which 
FRIEDEL'S_LAW is off.
But maybe your point is correct.

Thanks,
s

 Cheers,
 Tim
 
 On 01/16/2013 02:03 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
 
 Thanks to Kay and Tim or the feedback.
 
 The reason I wanted to get statistics from the CORRECT step of XDS
 is that I have refined a structure using the mtz output by the
 GO.COM automatic reduction routine of SLS beamline PXIII, which
 does not involve a scaling step (I discovered recently). I was
 willing to have the integration statistics of the reflection file I
 used in the refinement's high resolution bin. I will definitely
 give xprep a try.
 
 Another question that raised by looking deeper into their automatic
 procedure (thanks Meitian for the help) is that when integrating
 with XDS CORRECT keeping the FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE or =FALSE I get a
 different number of reflections in the final mtz.
 
 In my case, if I run the same XDS.INP script and change only the
 FRIEDEL'S_LAW flag, I obtain:
 
 
 =TRUE: 11551 reflections
 
 *  Resolution Range :
 
 0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )
 
 * Sort Order :
 
 1 2 3 0 0
 
 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)
 
 
 
 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111 
 ===
 
 
 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution
 Type Column num order   Missing complete  abs.
 LowHigh   label
 
 1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00
 H  H 2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22
 3.00   H  K 3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2
 48.22   3.00   H  L 4 NONE1.4   292.0 0  100.0019.40
 19.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP 5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00
 0.70 0.70  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGFP 6 NONE0.0 1.0 0
 100.00 0.95 0.95  48.22   3.00   I  FreeRflag
 
 
 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11551
 
 
 =FALSE: 11643 reflections
 
 * Cell Dimensions : (obsolete - refer to dataset cell dimensions
 above)
 
 100.5450  100.5450   96.4500   90.   90.  120.
 
 *  Resolution Range :
 
 0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )
 
 * Sort Order :
 
 1 2 3 0 0
 
 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)
 
 
 
 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111 
 ===
 
 
 Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution
 Type Column num order   Missing complete  abs.
 LowHigh   label
 
 1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00
 H  H 2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22
 3.00   H  K 3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2
 48.22   3.00   H  L 4 NONE1.4   291.9 0  100.0019.40
 19.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP 5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00
 0.67 0.67  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGFP 6 NONE  -13.613.269
 99.41-0.01 0.69  48.22   3.00   D  DANO 7 NONE0.0
 5.769   99.41 1.13 1.13  48.22   3.00   Q  SIGDANO 8
 NONE 0   2  0  100.00  0.0  0.0  48.22   3.00
 Y  ISYM 9 NONE0.0 1.0 0  100.00 0.95 0.95
 48.22   3.00   I  FreeRflag
 
 
 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11643
 
 
 Aren't they supposed to be the exact same number?
 
 Thanks, ciao, s
 
 
 On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de
 wrote:
 
 Dear Sebastiano,
 
 you could use xprep to get the statistics in user defined
 resolution shells.
 
 Out of curiosity: Would you mind sharing why you want to do this
 and why you don't want to use the XSCALE statistics instead? The 
 statistics are probably more meaningful after scaling, I guess.
 
 Best, Tim
 
 On 01/15/2013 04:22 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
 
 Hi all, I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number
 of resolution bins appearing in the table:
 
 SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE = -3.0 AS
 FUNCTION OF RESOLUTION
 
 of 

Re: [ccp4bb] changing resolution bins statistics in CORRECT.LP

2013-01-16 Thread Kay Diederichs
Sebastiano,

CORRECT does scale the data. XSCALE is only needed for two or more datasets, or 
if other requirements exist - you named one.

The two varieties of FRIEDEL'S_LAW differ in their rejections!

HTH,

Kay



Sebastiano Pasqualato sebastiano.pasqual...@gmail.com schrieb:


Thanks to Kay and Tim or the feedback.

The reason I wanted to get statistics from the CORRECT step of XDS is
that I have refined a structure using the mtz output by the GO.COM
automatic reduction routine of SLS beamline PXIII, which does not
involve a scaling step (I discovered recently).
I was willing to have the integration statistics of the reflection file
I used in the refinement's high resolution bin.
I will definitely give xprep a try.

Another question that raised by looking deeper into their automatic
procedure (thanks Meitian for the help) is that when integrating with
XDS CORRECT keeping the FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE or =FALSE I get a different
number of reflections in the final mtz.

In my case, if I run the same XDS.INP script and change only the
FRIEDEL'S_LAW flag, I obtain:


=TRUE: 11551 reflections

 *  Resolution Range :

0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )

 * Sort Order :

  1 2 3 0 0

 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)



 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111
 === 


Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution  
Type Column
num order   Missing complete  abs.   LowHigh   
   label 

1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00   H
 H
2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22   3.00   H
 K
3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2  48.22   3.00   H
 L
4 NONE1.4   292.0 0  100.0019.4019.40  48.22   3.00   F
 FP
5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00 0.70 0.70  48.22   3.00   Q
 SIGFP
6 NONE0.0 1.0 0  100.00 0.95 0.95  48.22   3.00   I
 FreeRflag


 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11551


=FALSE: 11643 reflections

* Cell Dimensions : (obsolete - refer to dataset cell dimensions above)

  100.5450  100.5450   96.4500   90.   90.  120. 

 *  Resolution Range :

0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )

 * Sort Order :

  1 2 3 0 0

 * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)



 OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111
 === 


Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution  
Type Column
num order   Missing complete  abs.   LowHigh   
   label 

1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00   H
 H
2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22   3.00   H
 K
3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2  48.22   3.00   H
 L
4 NONE1.4   291.9 0  100.0019.4019.40  48.22   3.00   F
 FP
5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00 0.67 0.67  48.22   3.00   Q
 SIGFP
6 NONE  -13.613.269   99.41-0.01 0.69  48.22   3.00   D
 DANO
7 NONE0.0 5.769   99.41 1.13 1.13  48.22   3.00   Q
 SIGDANO
8 NONE 0   2  0  100.00  0.0  0.0  48.22   3.00   Y
 ISYM
9 NONE0.0 1.0 0  100.00 0.95 0.95  48.22   3.00   I
 FreeRflag


 No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11643


Aren't they supposed to be the exact same number?

Thanks,
ciao,
s


On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de
wrote:

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 Dear Sebastiano,
 
 you could use xprep to get the statistics in user defined resolution
 shells.
 
 Out of curiosity: Would you mind sharing why you want to do this and
 why you don't want to use the XSCALE statistics instead? The
 statistics are probably more meaningful after scaling, I guess.
 
 Best,
 Tim
 
 On 01/15/2013 04:22 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
 
 Hi all, I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number of
 resolution bins appearing in the table:
 
 SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE = -3.0 AS FUNCTION OF
 RESOLUTION
 
 of CORRECT.LP.
 
 Please, note that I am not referring to the table output by XSCALE,
 in which you can change the resolution bins with the keyword
 RESOLUTION_SHELLS=, but rather the table output by the CORRECT job
 of XDS.
 
 Thanks in advance, ciao, Sebastiano
 
 
 
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Re: [ccp4bb] changing resolution bins statistics in CORRECT.LP

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato

Excellent.
Thanks a lot for the clarifications.
ciao,
s

On Jan 16, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de 
wrote:

 Sebastiano,
 
 CORRECT does scale the data. XSCALE is only needed for two or more datasets, 
 or if other requirements exist - you named one.
 
 The two varieties of FRIEDEL'S_LAW differ in their rejections!
 
 HTH,
 
 Kay
 
 
 
 Sebastiano Pasqualato sebastiano.pasqual...@gmail.com schrieb:
 
 Thanks to Kay and Tim or the feedback.
 
 The reason I wanted to get statistics from the CORRECT step of XDS is that I 
 have refined a structure using the mtz output by the GO.COM automatic 
 reduction routine of SLS beamline PXIII, which does not involve a scaling 
 step (I discovered recently).
 I was willing to have the integration statistics of the reflection file I 
 used in the refinement's high resolution bin.
 I will definitely give xprep a try.
 
 Another question that raised by looking deeper into their automatic procedure 
 (thanks Meitian for the help) is that when integrating with XDS CORRECT 
 keeping the FRIEDEL'S_LAW=TRUE or =FALSE I get a different number of 
 reflections in the final mtz.
 
 In my case, if I run the same XDS.INP script and change only the 
 FRIEDEL'S_LAW flag, I obtain:
 
 
 =TRUE: 11551 reflections
 
  *  Resolution Range :
 
 0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )
 
  * Sort Order :
 
   1 2 3 0 0
 
  * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)
 
 
 
  OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111
  === 
 
 
  Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution   Type 
 Column
  num order   Missing complete  abs.   LowHigh   
 label 
 
1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00   H  H
2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22   3.00   H  K
3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2  48.22   3.00   H  L
4 NONE1.4   292.0 0  100.0019.4019.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP
5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00 0.70 0.70  48.22   3.00   Q  
 SIGFP
6 NONE0.0 1.0 0  100.00 0.95 0.95  48.22   3.00   I  
 FreeRflag
 
 
  No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11551
 
 
 =FALSE: 11643 reflections
 
  * Cell Dimensions : (obsolete - refer to dataset cell dimensions above)
 
   100.5450  100.5450   96.4500   90.   90.  120. 
 
  *  Resolution Range :
 
 0.000430.11138 ( 48.225 -  2.996 A )
 
  * Sort Order :
 
   1 2 3 0 0
 
  * Space group = 'P 3 2 1' (number 150)
 
 
 
  OVERALL FILE STATISTICS for resolution range   0.000 -   0.111
  === 
 
 
  Col SortMinMaxNum  % Mean Mean   Resolution   Type 
 Column
  num order   Missing complete  abs.   LowHigh   
 label 
 
1 ASC  0  29  0  100.00 13.7 13.7  48.22   3.00   H  H
2 NONE 0  16  0  100.00  4.7  4.7  48.22   3.00   H  K
3 NONE   -32  32  0  100.00  0.5 12.2  48.22   3.00   H  L
4 NONE1.4   291.9 0  100.0019.4019.40  48.22   3.00   F  FP
5 NONE0.1 4.3 0  100.00 0.67 0.67  48.22   3.00   Q  
 SIGFP
6 NONE  -13.613.269   99.41-0.01 0.69  48.22   3.00   D  
 DANO
7 NONE0.0 5.769   99.41 1.13 1.13  48.22   3.00   Q  
 SIGDANO
8 NONE 0   2  0  100.00  0.0  0.0  48.22   3.00   Y  
 ISYM
9 NONE0.0 1.0 0  100.00 0.95 0.95  48.22   3.00   I  
 FreeRflag
 
 
  No. of reflections used in FILE STATISTICS11643
 
 
 Aren't they supposed to be the exact same number?
 
 Thanks,
 ciao,
 s
 
 
 On Jan 16, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote:
 
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 Dear Sebastiano,
 
 you could use xprep to get the statistics in user defined resolution
 shells.
 
 Out of curiosity: Would you mind sharing why you want to do this and
 why you don't want to use the XSCALE statistics instead? The
 statistics are probably more meaningful after scaling, I guess.
 
 Best,
 Tim
 
 On 01/15/2013 04:22 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato wrote:
 
 Hi all, I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number of
 resolution bins appearing in the table:
 
 SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE = -3.0 AS FUNCTION OF
 RESOLUTION
 
 of CORRECT.LP.
 
 Please, note that I am not referring to the table output by XSCALE,
 in which you can change the resolution bins with the keyword
 RESOLUTION_SHELLS=, but rather the table output by the CORRECT job
 of XDS.
 
 Thanks in advance, ciao, Sebastiano
 
 
 
 - -- 
 - --
 Dr Tim Gruene
 Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
 Tammannstr. 4
 D-37077 Goettingen
 
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[ccp4bb] changing resolution bins statistics in CORRECT.LP

2013-01-15 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato

Hi all,
I was wondering if XDS allows to change the number of resolution bins appearing 
in the table:

SUBSET OF INTENSITY DATA WITH SIGNAL/NOISE = -3.0 AS FUNCTION OF RESOLUTION

of CORRECT.LP.

Please, note that I am not referring to the table output by XSCALE, in which 
you can change the resolution bins with the keyword RESOLUTION_SHELLS=, but 
rather the table output by the CORRECT job of XDS.

Thanks in advance,
ciao,
Sebastiano


-- 
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Crystallography Unit
Department of Experimental Oncology
European Institute of Oncology
IFOM-IEO Campus
via Adamello, 16
20139 - Milano
Italy

tel +39 02 9437 5167
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