Re: [ccp4bb] optimization of dumbbell like crystal

2011-02-21 Thread yybbll
Additives screening.

YB


2011-02-21 



yybbll 



发件人: Bosch, Juergen 
发送时间: 2011-02-21  03:46:12 
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主题: Re: [ccp4bb] optimization of dumbbell like crystal 
 
Seeding ?
changing from sitting to hanging drop or under oil ?
play with temperature ?


Jürgen


On Feb 20, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Harvey Rodriguez wrote:


Dear CCP4BBers,

Recently I got a crystal which appeared in the condition 2.1M DL-Malic Acid, pH 
7.0. The crystal looks like a dumbbell but was composed of a cluster of very 
thin needles as shown in the picture. The crystal can be repeated but the 
diffraction is poor. I have tried the grid optimization by pH and salt 
concentration gradients, however there was no improvement in either the shape 
or the quality of the crystal. Does anyone have some experiences in optimizing 
this kind of crystals? Any suggestion is appreciated!

Harvey
dumbbell crystals.jpg


..
Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
Baltimore, MD 21205
Phone: +1-410-614-4742
Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
Fax:  +1-410-955-3655
http://web.mac.com/bosch_lab/


Re: [ccp4bb] optimization of dumbbell like crystal

2011-02-21 Thread Prince, D Bryan
Dear Harvey,

Microseeding and adding 1-5% glycerol to the drops helped me when I
obtained crystals like these. Good Luck!
Bryan

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Harvey Rodriguez
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 9:29 PM
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Subject: [ccp4bb] optimization of dumbbell like crystal

Dear CCP4BBers,

Recently I got a crystal which appeared in the condition 2.1M DL-Malic
Acid, pH 7.0. The crystal looks like a dumbbell but was composed of a
cluster of very thin needles as shown in the picture. The crystal can be
repeated but the diffraction is poor. I have tried the grid optimization
by pH and salt concentration gradients, however there was no improvement
in either the shape or the quality of the crystal. Does anyone have some
experiences in optimizing this kind of crystals? Any suggestion is
appreciated!

Harvey

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Re: [ccp4bb] optimization of dumbbell like crystal

2011-02-21 Thread Anja Pomowski
Dear Harvey,

I had very good results with low melt agarose and the detergent screen
(e.g. Hampton Research). In both cases, the tendency for cluster formation
as well as the diffraction power could be improved.

Anja


 Dear CCP4BBers,

 Recently I got a crystal which appeared in the condition 2.1M DL-Malic
 Acid,
 pH 7.0. The crystal looks like a dumbbell but was composed of a cluster of
 very thin needles as shown in the picture. The crystal can be repeated but
 the diffraction is poor. I have tried the grid optimization by pH and salt
 concentration gradients, however there was no improvement in either the
 shape or the quality of the crystal. Does anyone have some experiences in
 optimizing this kind of crystals? Any suggestion is appreciated!

 Harvey





Anja Pomowski
Universität Freiburg
Institut f. Organ. Chemie und Biochemie
AK Prof. Einsle
Albertstr. 21
79104 Freiburg

Tel. 0761 2036088
Fax. 0761 2036161


Re: [ccp4bb] optimization of dumbbell like crystal

2011-02-20 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Seeding ?
changing from sitting to hanging drop or under oil ?
play with temperature ?

Jürgen

On Feb 20, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Harvey Rodriguez wrote:

Dear CCP4BBers,

Recently I got a crystal which appeared in the condition 2.1M DL-Malic Acid, pH 
7.0. The crystal looks like a dumbbell but was composed of a cluster of very 
thin needles as shown in the picture. The crystal can be repeated but the 
diffraction is poor. I have tried the grid optimization by pH and salt 
concentration gradients, however there was no improvement in either the shape 
or the quality of the crystal. Does anyone have some experiences in optimizing 
this kind of crystals? Any suggestion is appreciated!

Harvey
dumbbell crystals.jpg

..
Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Department of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
Baltimore, MD 21205
Phone: +1-410-614-4742
Lab:  +1-410-614-4894
Fax:  +1-410-955-3655
http://web.mac.com/bosch_lab/





Re: [ccp4bb] optimization of dumbbell like crystal

2011-02-20 Thread Savvas Savvides
Dear Harvey
Based on the experimental history you provided I would try two quick things in 
order to obtain additional dimensions for your condition. 
(1) set up your best consensus condition against an additive screen (e.g. From 
Hampton). 
(2) I would repeat your last pH vs  precipitant grid against different starting 
protein concentrations. You can conveniently play with different drop ratios to 
screen for that. 

Best regards
Savvas

On 21 Feb 2011, at 03:29, Harvey Rodriguez h.rodriguez.x...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear CCP4BBers,
  
 Recently I got a crystal which appeared in the condition 2.1M DL-Malic Acid, 
 pH 7.0. The crystal looks like a dumbbell but was composed of a cluster of 
 very thin needles as shown in the picture. The crystal can be repeated but 
 the diffraction is poor. I have tried the grid optimization by pH and salt 
 concentration gradients, however there was no improvement in either the shape 
 or the quality of the crystal. Does anyone have some experiences in 
 optimizing this kind of crystals? Any suggestion is appreciated!
  
 Harvey
 dumbbell crystals.jpg


Re: [ccp4bb] optimization of dumbbell like crystal

2011-02-20 Thread Poul Nissen
Dear harvey
Consider your purification and preparation protocols - is the sample pure and 
homogenous?
Poul


On 21/02/2011, at 03.29, Harvey Rodriguez h.rodriguez.x...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear CCP4BBers,
  
 Recently I got a crystal which appeared in the condition 2.1M DL-Malic Acid, 
 pH 7.0. The crystal looks like a dumbbell but was composed of a cluster of 
 very thin needles as shown in the picture. The crystal can be repeated but 
 the diffraction is poor. I have tried the grid optimization by pH and salt 
 concentration gradients, however there was no improvement in either the shape 
 or the quality of the crystal. Does anyone have some experiences in 
 optimizing this kind of crystals? Any suggestion is appreciated!
  
 Harvey
 dumbbell crystals.jpg