[ccp4bb] stacked thin plates

2009-09-03 Thread james09 pruza
Deal all,

Sorry for the non-ccp4 query once again.
I need suggestions regarding the improvement in crystal quality. I have
crystallized a protein in MPD. The crystals grow like a thin plates and the
plates are stacked together. So, the mosaicity is very high and also
indexing is difficult even at 2 angstrom data set.
All suggestions are welcome.
Thanks.
James.


Re: [ccp4bb] stacked thin plates

2009-09-03 Thread Andy Torelli

James,

	I think the standard suggestions apply.  Try to tweak your 
crystallization conditions to get a single crystal (i.e. not a series of 
stacked plates).  PEG 400 can be a good substitute for MPD, but you 
could also try additive screens as well as co-crystallization with 
products, cofactors, substrates, analogs, etc. to alter the 
crystallization.


	Alternatively, seek out a beamline that offers X-ray beam diameters of 
5-20 microns.  You can survey your entire crystal(s) for very small 
diffracting volumes that might only contain a single plate.  You may get 
lucky.


-Andy

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Andrew T. Torelli Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Associate
Department of Chemistry  Chemical Biology
Baker Laboratory, Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
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On 9/3/2009 8:40 AM, james09 pruza wrote:

Deal all,
 
Sorry for the non-ccp4 query once again.
I need suggestions regarding the improvement in crystal quality. I have 
crystallized a protein in MPD. The crystals grow like a thin plates and 
the plates are stacked together. So, the mosaicity is very high and also 
indexing is difficult even at 2 angstrom data set.

All suggestions are welcome.
Thanks.
James.


Re: [ccp4bb] stacked thin plates

2009-09-03 Thread Roger Rowlett




We had a similar situation: great diffraction,
multiple lattices due to stacked plates that appeared to be single
crystals. We ran an additive screen with about a dozen common salts and
solvents, e.g., AmSO4, LiCl, MgSO4, AmPO4, PEG400, EG, glycerol, DMSO,
etc. at 100 mM for salts or 5-10% for liquids in our best
crystallization conditions. AmSO4 and EG changed the crystal form
slightly to more blocky plates. Those additives were screened from
50-200 mM and 75 mM AmSO4 was the winner: single crystals that
diffracted to 2.4 A, slightly worse than the 2.0 for the stacked
plates, but good enough to get a structure.

Cheers.

james09 pruza wrote:

  Deal all,
  
  Sorry for the non-ccp4 query once again.
  I need suggestions regarding the improvement in crystal quality.
I have crystallized a protein in MPD. The crystals grow like a thin
plates and the plates are stacked together. So, the mosaicity is very
high and also indexing is difficult even at 2 angstrom data set.
  All suggestions are welcome.
  Thanks.
  James.

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Re: [ccp4bb] stacked thin plates

2009-09-03 Thread ucbccka
Have you tried using these crystals to produce seeds for matrix seeding?

charlie



 Deal all,

 Sorry for the non-ccp4 query once again.
 I need suggestions regarding the improvement in crystal quality. I have
 crystallized a protein in MPD. The crystals grow like a thin plates and
 the
 plates are stacked together. So, the mosaicity is very high and also
 indexing is difficult even at 2 angstrom data set.
 All suggestions are welcome.
 Thanks.
 James.