Re: [ccp4bb] Good 3D Monitor for Molecular Modelling

2016-10-31 Thread mesters 
Unfortunately the ASUS VG278H 27" with build-in IR-emitter is not 
produced anymore (about 500-600 US$), works under linux and windows 
without USB IR-emitter and thus with a simple nvidia quadro card.


Anyway, any *decent* 3D gaming monitor will do the job, but you do need 
to buy Nvidia 3D Vision2 Wireless Glasses with IR-emitter (works under 
Windows without to much of a problem once you have the proper VGA card, 
best would be a small quadro such as a nvidia K620):


24" models (200-325 US$)
AOC G2460PQU 144hz, 1ms Ultimate Performance 24-Inch Professional Gaming 
Monitor

Acer GN246HL Bbid 24-Inch 3D Gaming Display (144Hz Refresh Rate)
ASUS VG248QE 24" Full HD 1920x1080 144Hz 1ms HDMI Gaming Monitor
BenQ XL2411Z 144Hz 1ms 24 inch Gaming Monitor NVIDIA 3D Vision Supported

27" models (250 - 350 US$)
Acer GN276HL bid 27-inch Full HD (1920 x 1080) Display (VGA, DVI & HDMI 
Ports, 144Hz Refresh Rate)

BenQ XL2720Z 144Hz 1ms 27 inch Gaming Monitor
AOC G2770PQU 144hz, 1ms, Ultimate Performance 27-Inch Professional 
Gaming Monitor

VG278HE 3D by Asus unfortunately out of stock or very expensive

Glasses
Nvidia 942-11431-0007-001 3D Vision2 Wireless Glasses Kit (150 US$)

Happy 3D viewing,

Jeroen



Am 27.10.16 um 17:20 schrieb Matthew Graf:

Hello All,
 I am looking for suggestions on a good, but not too costly, 3D 
monitor for visualizing pdb structures and looking at outputs of 
modelling programs. I am not personally a structural biologist, but am 
on the hunt for someone who is. All help appreciated.


Kind regards,
Matt



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Re: [ccp4bb] Good 3D Monitor for Molecular Modelling

2016-10-28 Thread David Schuller 
The last I heard (which was a while ago), Windows could run the stereo 
emitter over USB with a Geforce card, but Linux still needed a Quadro 
card with the 3 pin mini-DIN connector. I hope this is no longer true, 
but I have not heard clear information to the contrary. Note that the 
text you quote does not mention OS at all.


On 10/28/16 04:18, Johannes Cramer wrote:

Hi Matt,

I guess you are talking about hardware. For a year or so, this should 
have become quite cheap. A recent Nvidia Geforce card, a 120 Hz 3D 
Monitor and a 3D vision kit should do the trick. However, personally I 
only have experiences with the "professional" NVidia quadro grafics 
card series.
Can anyone in the CCP4BB confirm that Geforce cards work with coot, as 
suggested on the pymolwiki site:


  * GeForce Cards from series 400 onward have gained OpenGl
support in recent Nvidia driver iterations (314+). This allows
Pymol to be viewed in 3D using the quad buffered stereo
setting with a GeForce card, 120Hz screen and 3D Vision kit.


Cheers,
Johannes

2016-10-27 20:11 GMT+02:00 Folmer Fredslund >:


Hi Matt,

Have you tried looking at these pages:
http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Stereo

https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Stereo_3D_Display_Options


HTH,
Folmer Fredslund


On 2016-10-27 17:20, Matthew Graf wrote:

Hello All,
 I am looking for suggestions on a good, but not too costly, 3D
monitor for visualizing pdb structures and looking at outputs of
modelling programs. I am not personally a structural biologist,
but am on the hunt for someone who is. All help appreciated.

Kind regards,
Matt






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Re: [ccp4bb] Good 3D Monitor for Molecular Modelling

2016-10-28 Thread Johannes Cramer 
Hi Matt,

I guess you are talking about hardware. For a year or so, this should have
become quite cheap. A recent Nvidia Geforce card, a 120 Hz 3D Monitor and a
3D vision kit should do the trick. However, personally I only have
experiences with the "professional" NVidia quadro grafics card series.
Can anyone in the CCP4BB confirm that Geforce cards work with coot, as
suggested on the pymolwiki site:


>- GeForce Cards from series 400 onward have gained OpenGl support in
>recent Nvidia driver iterations (314+). This allows Pymol to be viewed in
>3D using the quad buffered stereo setting with a GeForce card, 120Hz screen
>and 3D Vision kit.
>
>
Cheers,
Johannes

2016-10-27 20:11 GMT+02:00 Folmer Fredslund :

> Hi Matt,
>
> Have you tried looking at these pages:
> http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Stereo
> https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Stereo_3D_Display_Options
>
> HTH,
> Folmer Fredslund
>
>
> On 2016-10-27 17:20, Matthew Graf wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>  I am looking for suggestions on a good, but not too costly, 3D monitor
> for visualizing pdb structures and looking at outputs of modelling
> programs. I am not personally a structural biologist, but am on the hunt
> for someone who is. All help appreciated.
>
> Kind regards,
> Matt
>
>
>

Re: [ccp4bb] Good 3D Monitor for Molecular Modelling

2016-10-27 Thread Folmer Fredslund 

Hi Matt,

Have you tried looking at these pages:
http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Stereo
https://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Stereo_3D_Display_Options

HTH,
Folmer Fredslund

On 2016-10-27 17:20, Matthew Graf wrote:

Hello All,
 I am looking for suggestions on a good, but not too costly, 3D 
monitor for visualizing pdb structures and looking at outputs of 
modelling programs. I am not personally a structural biologist, but am 
on the hunt for someone who is. All help appreciated.


Kind regards,
Matt

Re: [ccp4bb] Good 3D Monitor for Molecular Modelling

2016-10-27 Thread Gert Vriend 

Hai Matt,

If you are not interested in hard-core crystallography stuff like 
interpreting electron-density maps or couplings to Coot or Refmac, then 
I can certainly recommend that you look at Yasara. We use it for 15 
years already for modelling and many different visualizations (and much 
more). I am especially happy with the fact that my entire WHAT IF 
software is included in Yasara. Yasara is one of the best modelling 
softwares available (Proteins. 2009;77 Suppl 9:114-22 
). Yasara is commercial, 
but very cheap, especially for academics. There is a limited version 
that is fully free of cost for everybody; called Yasara_view it does 
just enough to be very useful for education purposes. Yasara comes fully 
maintained and provides its customers a well-working help-desk.


(I do not benefit from Yasara sales...).

Look at www.yasara.org

Greetings

Gert


On 27-10-2016 17:20, Matthew Graf wrote:

Hello All,
 I am looking for suggestions on a good, but not too costly, 3D 
monitor for visualizing pdb structures and looking at outputs of 
modelling programs. I am not personally a structural biologist, but am 
on the hunt for someone who is. All help appreciated.


Kind regards,
Matt