Re: [ccp4bb] Kinase crystallization

2012-01-31 Thread Pius Padayatti
a comment to add about phosphatase (PP2A, C class serine theronine)
buying phosphatase for crystallization trials was kind of not
practical( very high prices )
so we tried expressing and purify it from overexpressed in bacterium
with yields very low.
Also the purified phosphtase co-purify some proteasaes that led to
proteolysis of the samples.
what is the experts here experienced in such conditions?
Judit, Is there a better source? cheaper and reliable?

thanks

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Debreczeni, Judit
judit.debrecz...@astrazeneca.com wrote:
 Does your kinase autophosphorylate by any chance? -- That can produce
 differently phosphorylated species and affect crystallisability. You can
 detect it by e.g. mass spec, and tackle it by dephosphorylating the protein
 prior to crystallisation or by coexpression with a phosphatase.







 

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 From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of CHAVES
 SANJUAN, ANTONIO
 Sent: 30 January 2012 10:07


 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: [ccp4bb] Kinase crystallization



 Dear all,

 I am trying to crystallize a protein kinase without any success.

 I suspect about its characteristic catalytic loop. I have already prepared
 different constructs, different expression vectors, and different mutant
 proteins (pseudo-phosphorylated, active, inactive?). I have also tested some
 ligands as ANPpnp (non hidrolizable nucleotide), ADP (product) and manganese
 (cofactor).

 I am thinking in trying to cocrystallize it with a general kinase substrate
 (a peptide, a small molecule...). Does any one have any experience or
 suggestion?

 Thanks in advance.

 Sincerely,

 Antonio



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Re: [ccp4bb] Kinase crystallization

2012-01-30 Thread Artem Evdokimov
It is a fairly common issue with kinases. Among other options you may want
to try a generic kinase inhibitor (there are several good ones just look at
pdb structures for ieas) and if this does not help then you could attempt
to clamp the motion down via an inter-lobe engineered disulphide bond...

Artem
On Jan 30, 2012 5:17 AM, CHAVES SANJUAN, ANTONIO xanto...@iqfr.csic.es
wrote:

 Dear all,**

 I am trying to crystallize a protein kinase without any success.**

 I suspect about its characteristic catalytic loop. I have already prepared
 different constructs, different expression vectors, and different mutant
 proteins (pseudo-phosphorylated, active, inactive?). I have also tested
 some ligands as ANPpnp (non hidrolizable nucleotide), ADP (product) and
 manganese (cofactor).**

 I am thinking in trying to cocrystallize it with a general kinase
 substrate (a peptide, a small molecule...). Does any one have any
 experience or suggestion?**

 Thanks in advance.**

 Sincerely,**
 Antonio


Re: [ccp4bb] Kinase crystallization

2012-01-30 Thread Schubert, Carsten [JRDUS]
Staurosporine come to mind as a general kinase inhibitor. I also second
Artem's suggestion that ligands make a big difference, we had several
cases of kinases which required ligands for crystallization success.
Also make sure you eliminate any floppy ends which may interfere with
packing.

 

Good luck

 

Carsten

 

 

 

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Subject: [ccp4bb] Kinase crystallization

 

Dear all,

I am trying to crystallize a protein kinase without any success.

I suspect about its characteristic catalytic loop. I have already
prepared different constructs, different expression vectors, and
different mutant proteins (pseudo-phosphorylated, active, inactive?). I
have also tested some ligands as ANPpnp (non hidrolizable nucleotide),
ADP (product) and manganese (cofactor).

I am thinking in trying to cocrystallize it with a general kinase
substrate (a peptide, a small molecule...). Does any one have any
experience or suggestion?

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,

Antonio



Re: [ccp4bb] Kinase crystallization

2012-01-30 Thread George Kontopidis
if the ligand binding site is exposed to the solvent a bound ligand may help.

if the protein has is flexible domains and ligand fix it in one conformation, a 
bound ligand will help even more.

All the above assuming that the purity and the concentration of the protein are 
high.

 

George 

 

 

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Debreczeni, Judit
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 3:45 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Kinase crystallization

 

Does your kinase autophosphorylate by any chance? -- That can produce 
differently phosphorylated species and affect crystallisability. You can detect 
it by e.g. mass spec, and tackle it by dephosphorylating the protein prior to 
crystallisation or by coexpression with a phosphatase.

 

 

 

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of CHAVES 
SANJUAN, ANTONIO
Sent: 30 January 2012 10:07
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Kinase crystallization

 

Dear all,

I am trying to crystallize a protein kinase without any success.

I suspect about its characteristic catalytic loop. I have already prepared 
different constructs, different expression vectors, and different mutant 
proteins (pseudo-phosphorylated, active, inactive?). I have also tested some 
ligands as ANPpnp (non hidrolizable nucleotide), ADP (product) and manganese 
(cofactor).

I am thinking in trying to cocrystallize it with a general kinase substrate (a 
peptide, a small molecule...). Does any one have any experience or suggestion?

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,

Antonio