subject:"Re\: \[ccp4bb\] beryllium chloride"

Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-02 Thread Bernhard Rupp

The older fellows might well remember the huge Be windows on the ADSC 
multi-wire detectors – 

miraculously we survived them simply by common sense dictating 

(i) don’t eat it, (ii) don’t breathe it,  and (iii) don’t rub your nose in it…. 

 

Cheers, BR

 

 

From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of Ian Tickle
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 5:39 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

 

 

Yes both soluble beryllium salts and powdered beryllium metal even applied to 
the skin are known to cause sensitization and is a route into the bloodstream 
where it is highly carcinogenic (I am not speaking from experience!).

 

Yet strangely the one source of beryllium that many people (at least the more 
well-off among us) commonly come into contact with, namely the gemstone emerald 
Be3Al2(SiO3)6 obviously has no known toxic effects whatosever!  Apparently even 
gemstone grinders show no ill effects!  I guess it's the free Be2+ ion that's 
so toxic.

 

Cheers

 

-- Ian

 

 

 

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, Aaron Finke mailto:af...@cornell.edu> > wrote:

1. Yes, I meant the tetrahydrate, [Be(H2O)4]2+ 2Cl- 

 

2. Bob, I studied that page, and couldn’t get past  BeCl2 is known to have a 
“sweetish taste.” I’m very glad chemists no longer characterize chemicals by 
their taste anymore...

--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu <mailto:af...@cornell.edu> 


On Apr 1, 2019, at 22:37, Sweet, Robert 
<27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk 
<mailto:27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> > wrote:

With all respect, this conversation make my skin crawl a little. I've been 
taught that beryllium salts are EXTREMELY toxic.  Please study this: 
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/beryllium_chloride

 

Hopefully, 

 

Bob

 



  Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  sw...@bnl.gov 
<mailto:sw...@bnl.gov> 

  Deputy Director, LSBR: The Life Science and 

   Biomedical Technology Research Center at NSLS-II 

  Photon Sciences and Biology Dept

  Brookhaven Nat'l Lab. 

  Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.  

  Phones:631 344 3401  (Office)

 631 338 7302  (Mobile)



 


  _  


From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> 
> on behalf of Diana Tomchick mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> >
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 7:03 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> 
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride 

 

No, that should read  

 



 

Diana

 

**
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
UT Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu <mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> 
(214) 645-6383 (phone)
(214) 645-6353 (fax)

 

On Apr 1, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Keller, Jacob mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org> > wrote:

 

Is that 4+ an April fools’ joke? Pretty crazy if not…can’t think of another ion 
with such a charge, well except things like DNA and proteins, but not single 
atoms.

 

JPK

 

+

Jacob Pearson Keller

Research Scientist / Looger Lab

HHMI Janelia Research Campus

19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147

Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159

Cell: (301)592-7004

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CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Aaron Finke
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 6:45 PM
To:  <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

 

American Elements sells BeCl2 but you’d have to check with them on what scale 
they sell it at. They tend to do custom manufacturing.  

 

 <https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-7787-47-5> 
https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-7787-47-5

 

BeCl2 dissociates in aqueous solution to form Be(H2O)4+ 2Cl-. 

 

Aaron

--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail:  <mailto:af...@cornell.edu> af...@cornell.edu


On Apr 1, 2019, at 17:07, Alexandra Deaconescu < 
<mailto:alexandra_deacone...@brown.edu> alexandra_deacone...@brown.edu> wrote:

Hello,

Is anyone aware of a company that sel

Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-02 Thread Aaron Finke

There are plenty of heavy metals that have little to no physiological 
significance, because biomes evolved in their absence. But beryllium is 
interesting because it’s so light and nonabundant in comparison to related 
elements like Li or Mg. So since mammals never evolved with free Be2+ around, 
it can run amok, interacting with DNA and inhibiting enzymes.

That said, I am sure there is a cave somewhere on earth, full of emeralds and 
other beryl minerals, where microbes evolved to handily deal with the beryllium 
monster. We just haven’t found it yet. As Ian Malcolm said, “Life, uh, finds a 
way.”

I also just read that beryllium used to be called glucinium after the Greek for 
“sweet,” because many beryllium salts taste sweet. Yikes.

Aaron
--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 2, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Keller, Jacob 
mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>> wrote:

I remember from biochemistry class that it’s the one element that has no known 
physiological role—is that still true?

JPK

+
Jacob Pearson Keller
Research Scientist / Looger Lab
HHMI Janelia Research Campus
19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
Cell: (301)592-7004
+

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On Behalf Of Aaron Finke
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 11:21 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

The lung disease is called berylliosis and is an allergic-type response that 
leads to fibrosis in the lungs. A significant percentage of the population has 
allergic reactions to beryllium, but there is no very accurate method for 
prescreening this; I read somewhere even lung biopsies are only about 80% 
accurate for beryllium sensitivity. Beryllium metal readily oxidizes in air and 
BeO is the typical inhlation vector.

Mind you, this is on top of the carginogenic properties of beryllium and its 
compounds. It’s just nasty stuff. Shame it’s so useful...

Aaron
--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>


On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Zhijie Li 
mailto:zhijie...@utoronto.ca>> wrote:

Sometime ago when I was watching a Youtube video on magnetron I learnt that at 
least at at certain point of time the antenna port of the magnetron was sealed 
using beryllium oxide ceramic(probably for its high thermal conductivity). The 
video maker warned that this ceramic was extremely dangerous. Further wikipedia 
and internet reading confirmed that fine beryllium oxide powder does cause 
something called beryllium disease and cancer (the latter in a way similar to 
that of asbestos? I guessed). However the sintered ceramic form is probably as 
safe as emerald unless you have to grind it and breath the dust every day. (I 
think most jewellers would always use some grinding liquid when honing their 
stones.)
The wikipedia page on beryllium oxide has some really interesting facts. Also 
if one is desperate for some beryllium salt it hints dissolving a magnetron 
antenna sealing ring in hot concentrated solution of H2SO4 and (NH4)2SO4.

My 2 cents.

Zhijie



On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Ian Tickle 
mailto:ianj...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes both soluble beryllium salts and powdered beryllium metal even applied to 
the skin are known to cause sensitization and is a route into the bloodstream 
where it is highly carcinogenic (I am not speaking from experience!).

Yet strangely the one source of beryllium that many people (at least the more 
well-off among us) commonly come into contact with, namely the gemstone emerald 
Be3Al2(SiO3)6 obviously has no known toxic effects whatosever!  Apparently even 
gemstone grinders show no ill effects!  I guess it's the free Be2+ ion that's 
so toxic.

Cheers

-- Ian



On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, Aaron Finke 
mailto:af...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
1. Yes, I meant the tetrahydrate, [Be(H2O)4]2+ 2Cl-

2. Bob, I studied that page, and couldn’t get past  BeCl2 is known to have a 
“sweetish taste.” I’m very glad chemists no longer characterize chemicals by 
their taste anymore...
--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 1, 2019, at 22:37, Sweet, Robert

Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-02 Thread Keller, Jacob

I remember from biochemistry class that it’s the one element that has no known 
physiological role—is that still true?

JPK

+
Jacob Pearson Keller
Research Scientist / Looger Lab
HHMI Janelia Research Campus
19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
Cell: (301)592-7004
+

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From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of Aaron Finke
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 11:21 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

The lung disease is called berylliosis and is an allergic-type response that 
leads to fibrosis in the lungs. A significant percentage of the population has 
allergic reactions to beryllium, but there is no very accurate method for 
prescreening this; I read somewhere even lung biopsies are only about 80% 
accurate for beryllium sensitivity. Beryllium metal readily oxidizes in air and 
BeO is the typical inhlation vector.

Mind you, this is on top of the carginogenic properties of beryllium and its 
compounds. It’s just nasty stuff. Shame it’s so useful...

Aaron
--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>


On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Zhijie Li 
mailto:zhijie...@utoronto.ca>> wrote:

Sometime ago when I was watching a Youtube video on magnetron I learnt that at 
least at at certain point of time the antenna port of the magnetron was sealed 
using beryllium oxide ceramic(probably for its high thermal conductivity). The 
video maker warned that this ceramic was extremely dangerous. Further wikipedia 
and internet reading confirmed that fine beryllium oxide powder does cause 
something called beryllium disease and cancer (the latter in a way similar to 
that of asbestos? I guessed). However the sintered ceramic form is probably as 
safe as emerald unless you have to grind it and breath the dust every day. (I 
think most jewellers would always use some grinding liquid when honing their 
stones.)
The wikipedia page on beryllium oxide has some really interesting facts. Also 
if one is desperate for some beryllium salt it hints dissolving a magnetron 
antenna sealing ring in hot concentrated solution of H2SO4 and (NH4)2SO4.

My 2 cents.

Zhijie



On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Ian Tickle 
mailto:ianj...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yes both soluble beryllium salts and powdered beryllium metal even applied to 
the skin are known to cause sensitization and is a route into the bloodstream 
where it is highly carcinogenic (I am not speaking from experience!).

Yet strangely the one source of beryllium that many people (at least the more 
well-off among us) commonly come into contact with, namely the gemstone emerald 
Be3Al2(SiO3)6 obviously has no known toxic effects whatosever!  Apparently even 
gemstone grinders show no ill effects!  I guess it's the free Be2+ ion that's 
so toxic.

Cheers

-- Ian



On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, Aaron Finke 
mailto:af...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
1. Yes, I meant the tetrahydrate, [Be(H2O)4]2+ 2Cl-

2. Bob, I studied that page, and couldn’t get past  BeCl2 is known to have a 
“sweetish taste.” I’m very glad chemists no longer characterize chemicals by 
their taste anymore...
--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 1, 2019, at 22:37, Sweet, Robert 
<27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>>
 wrote:
With all respect, this conversation make my skin crawl a little. I've been 
taught that beryllium salts are EXTREMELY toxic.  Please study this: 
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/beryllium_chloride

Hopefully,

Bob


  Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  
sw...@bnl.gov<mailto:sw...@bnl.gov>
  Deputy Director, LSBR: The Life Science and
   Biomedical Technology Research Center at NSLS-II
  Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
  Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
  Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
  Phones:631 344 3401  (Office)
 631 338 7302  (Mobile)



From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> 
on behalf of Diana Tomchick 
mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>>
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 7:03 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subje

Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-02 Thread Aaron Finke

The lung disease is called berylliosis and is an allergic-type response that 
leads to fibrosis in the lungs. A significant percentage of the population has 
allergic reactions to beryllium, but there is no very accurate method for 
prescreening this; I read somewhere even lung biopsies are only about 80% 
accurate for beryllium sensitivity. Beryllium metal readily oxidizes in air and 
BeO is the typical inhlation vector.

Mind you, this is on top of the carginogenic properties of beryllium and its 
compounds. It’s just nasty stuff. Shame it’s so useful...

Aaron
--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:21 AM, Zhijie Li 
mailto:zhijie...@utoronto.ca>> wrote:

Sometime ago when I was watching a Youtube video on magnetron I learnt that at 
least at at certain point of time the antenna port of the magnetron was sealed 
using beryllium oxide ceramic(probably for its high thermal conductivity). The 
video maker warned that this ceramic was extremely dangerous. Further wikipedia 
and internet reading confirmed that fine beryllium oxide powder does cause 
something called beryllium disease and cancer (the latter in a way similar to 
that of asbestos? I guessed). However the sintered ceramic form is probably as 
safe as emerald unless you have to grind it and breath the dust every day. (I 
think most jewellers would always use some grinding liquid when honing their 
stones.)
The wikipedia page on beryllium oxide has some really interesting facts. Also 
if one is desperate for some beryllium salt it hints dissolving a magnetron 
antenna sealing ring in hot concentrated solution of H2SO4 and (NH4)2SO4.

My 2 cents.

Zhijie



On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Ian Tickle 
mailto:ianj...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yes both soluble beryllium salts and powdered beryllium metal even applied to 
the skin are known to cause sensitization and is a route into the bloodstream 
where it is highly carcinogenic (I am not speaking from experience!).

Yet strangely the one source of beryllium that many people (at least the more 
well-off among us) commonly come into contact with, namely the gemstone emerald 
Be3Al2(SiO3)6 obviously has no known toxic effects whatosever!  Apparently even 
gemstone grinders show no ill effects!  I guess it's the free Be2+ ion that's 
so toxic.

Cheers

-- Ian



On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, Aaron Finke 
mailto:af...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
1. Yes, I meant the tetrahydrate, [Be(H2O)4]2+ 2Cl-

2. Bob, I studied that page, and couldn’t get past  BeCl2 is known to have a 
“sweetish taste.” I’m very glad chemists no longer characterize chemicals by 
their taste anymore...

--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 1, 2019, at 22:37, Sweet, Robert 
<27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>>
 wrote:

With all respect, this conversation make my skin crawl a little. I've been 
taught that beryllium salts are EXTREMELY toxic.  Please study this: 
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/beryllium_chloride

Hopefully,

Bob



  Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  
sw...@bnl.gov<mailto:sw...@bnl.gov>
  Deputy Director, LSBR: The Life Science and
   Biomedical Technology Research Center at NSLS-II
  Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
  Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
  Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
  Phones:631 344 3401  (Office)
 631 338 7302  (Mobile)



From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> 
on behalf of Diana Tomchick 
mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>>
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 7:03 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

No, that should read



Diana

**
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
UT Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
(214) 645-6383 (phone)
(214) 645-6353 (fax)

On Apr 1, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Keller, Jacob 
mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>> wrote:

Is that 4+ an April fools’ joke? Pretty crazy if not…can’t think of another ion 
with such a charge, well except things like DNA and proteins, but not single 
atoms.

JPK

+
Jacob Pearson Keller
Research Scientist / Looger Lab
HHMI Janelia Research Campus
19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
Cell: (301)592-7004
+

The c

Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-02 Thread Zhijie Li

Sometime ago when I was watching a Youtube video on magnetron I learnt that at 
least at at certain point of time the antenna port of the magnetron was sealed 
using beryllium oxide ceramic(probably for its high thermal conductivity). The 
video maker warned that this ceramic was extremely dangerous. Further wikipedia 
and internet reading confirmed that fine beryllium oxide powder does cause 
something called beryllium disease and cancer (the latter in a way similar to 
that of asbestos? I guessed). However the sintered ceramic form is probably as 
safe as emerald unless you have to grind it and breath the dust every day. (I 
think most jewellers would always use some grinding liquid when honing their 
stones.)
The wikipedia page on beryllium oxide has some really interesting facts. Also 
if one is desperate for some beryllium salt it hints dissolving a magnetron 
antenna sealing ring in hot concentrated solution of H2SO4 and (NH4)2SO4.

My 2 cents.

Zhijie



On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Ian Tickle 
mailto:ianj...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yes both soluble beryllium salts and powdered beryllium metal even applied to 
the skin are known to cause sensitization and is a route into the bloodstream 
where it is highly carcinogenic (I am not speaking from experience!).

Yet strangely the one source of beryllium that many people (at least the more 
well-off among us) commonly come into contact with, namely the gemstone emerald 
Be3Al2(SiO3)6 obviously has no known toxic effects whatosever!  Apparently even 
gemstone grinders show no ill effects!  I guess it's the free Be2+ ion that's 
so toxic.

Cheers

-- Ian



On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, Aaron Finke 
mailto:af...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
1. Yes, I meant the tetrahydrate, [Be(H2O)4]2+ 2Cl-

2. Bob, I studied that page, and couldn’t get past  BeCl2 is known to have a 
“sweetish taste.” I’m very glad chemists no longer characterize chemicals by 
their taste anymore...

--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 1, 2019, at 22:37, Sweet, Robert 
<27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>>
 wrote:


With all respect, this conversation make my skin crawl a little. I've been 
taught that beryllium salts are EXTREMELY toxic.  Please study this: 
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/beryllium_chloride


Hopefully,


Bob



  Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  
sw...@bnl.gov<mailto:sw...@bnl.gov>
  Deputy Director, LSBR: The Life Science and
   Biomedical Technology Research Center at NSLS-II
  Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
  Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
  Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
  Phones:631 344 3401  (Office)
 631 338 7302  (Mobile)



From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> 
on behalf of Diana Tomchick 
mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>>
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 7:03 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

No, that should read



Diana

**
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
UT Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
(214) 645-6383 (phone)
(214) 645-6353 (fax)

On Apr 1, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Keller, Jacob 
mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>> wrote:

Is that 4+ an April fools’ joke? Pretty crazy if not…can’t think of another ion 
with such a charge, well except things like DNA and proteins, but not single 
atoms.

JPK

+
Jacob Pearson Keller
Research Scientist / Looger Lab
HHMI Janelia Research Campus
19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
Cell: (301)592-7004
+

The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient 
specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this 
message with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you 
received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with 
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From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> 
On Behalf Of Aaron Finke
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 6:45 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

American Elements sells BeCl2 but you’d have to check with them on what scale 
they sell it at. They tend to do custom manufacturing.

https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-77

Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-02 Thread Andreas Förster

Hi Bob,

for something probably less toxic (but also less sweet tasting), try
beryllium ortho-silicate (Be2SiO4).  Crystals of sufficient purity serve as
excellent test crystals, with low absorption and ridiculous diffraction.
You might need a jeweler to cut them down to size.

All best.


Andreas



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:37 AM Sweet, Robert <
27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:

> With all respect, this conversation make my skin crawl a little. I've been
> taught that beryllium salts are EXTREMELY toxic.  Please study this:
> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/beryllium_chloride
>
> Hopefully,
>
>
> Bob
>
>
> 
>   Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  sw...@bnl.gov
>   Deputy Director, LSBR: The Life Science and
>Biomedical Technology Research Center at NSLS-II
>   Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
>   Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
>   Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
>   Phones:631 344 3401  (Office)
>  631 338 7302  (Mobile)
> 
>
> --
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Diana
> Tomchick 
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2019 7:03 PM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride
>
> No, that should read
>
>
> Diana
>
> **
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Professor
> Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
> UT Southwestern Medical Center
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214A
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816
> diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> (214) 645-6383 (phone)
> (214) 645-6353 (fax)
>
> On Apr 1, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Keller, Jacob 
> wrote:
>
> Is that 4+ an April fools’ joke? Pretty crazy if not…can’t think of
> another ion with such a charge, well except things like DNA and proteins,
> but not single atoms.
>
> JPK
>
> +
> Jacob Pearson Keller
> Research Scientist / Looger Lab
> HHMI Janelia Research Campus
> 19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
> Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
> Cell: (301)592-7004
> +
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> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board  *On Behalf Of *Aaron
> Finke
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2019 6:45 PM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride
>
> American Elements sells BeCl2 but you’d have to check with them on what
> scale they sell it at. They tend to do custom manufacturing.
>
> https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-7787-47-5
>
> BeCl2 dissociates in aqueous solution to form Be(H2O)4+ 2Cl-.
>
>
> Aaron
> --
> Aaron Finke
> Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
> Cornell University
> e-mail: af...@cornell.edu
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2019, at 17:07, Alexandra Deaconescu <
> alexandra_deacone...@brown.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is anyone aware of a company that sells Beryllium chloride in the US?
> Sigma does not carry it any longer, and a quick Google search failed to
> reveal alternatives.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Alexandra
>
>
> --
> Alexandra Deaconescu, B.E., Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Brown University
>
> Office: (401) 863-3215
> Wet Lab: (401) 863-6729
> Computational Lab: (401) 863-7031
>
> For Mail:
> Laboratories of Molecular Medicine
> 70 Ship St. GE-4
> Providence, RI 02903
>
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> Brown University
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> Providence, RI 02903
>
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>
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Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-02 Thread Ian Tickle

Yes both soluble beryllium salts and powdered beryllium metal even applied
to the skin are known to cause sensitization and is a route into the
bloodstream where it is highly carcinogenic (I am not speaking from
experience!).

Yet strangely the one source of beryllium that many people (at least the
more well-off among us) commonly come into contact with, namely the
gemstone emerald Be3Al2(SiO3)6 obviously has no known toxic effects
whatosever!  Apparently even gemstone grinders show no ill effects!  I
guess it's the free Be2+ ion that's so toxic.

Cheers

-- Ian



On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:07, Aaron Finke  wrote:

> 1. Yes, I meant the tetrahydrate, [Be(H2O)4]2+ 2Cl-
>
> 2. Bob, I studied that page, and couldn’t get past  BeCl2 is known to have
> a “sweetish taste.” I’m very glad chemists no longer characterize chemicals
> by their taste anymore...
>
> --
> Aaron Finke
> Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
> Cornell University
> e-mail: af...@cornell.edu
>
> On Apr 1, 2019, at 22:37, Sweet, Robert <
> 27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> With all respect, this conversation make my skin crawl a little. I've been
> taught that beryllium salts are EXTREMELY toxic.  Please study this:
> https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/beryllium_chloride
>
> Hopefully,
>
>
> Bob
>
>
> 
>   Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  sw...@bnl.gov
>   Deputy Director, LSBR: The Life Science and
>Biomedical Technology Research Center at NSLS-II
>   Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
>   Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
>   Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
>   Phones:631 344 3401  (Office)
>  631 338 7302  (Mobile)
> 
>
> --
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Diana
> Tomchick 
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2019 7:03 PM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride
>
> No, that should read
>
>
> Diana
>
> **
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Professor
> Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
> UT Southwestern Medical Center
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214A
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816
> diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> (214) 645-6383 (phone)
> (214) 645-6353 (fax)
>
> On Apr 1, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Keller, Jacob 
> wrote:
>
> Is that 4+ an April fools’ joke? Pretty crazy if not…can’t think of
> another ion with such a charge, well except things like DNA and proteins,
> but not single atoms.
>
> JPK
>
> +
> Jacob Pearson Keller
> Research Scientist / Looger Lab
> HHMI Janelia Research Campus
> 19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
> Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
> Cell: (301)592-7004
> +
>
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> specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share any part of
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> follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not
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>
> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board  *On Behalf Of *Aaron
> Finke
> *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2019 6:45 PM
> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride
>
> American Elements sells BeCl2 but you’d have to check with them on what
> scale they sell it at. They tend to do custom manufacturing.
>
> https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-7787-47-5
>
> BeCl2 dissociates in aqueous solution to form Be(H2O)4+ 2Cl-.
>
>
> Aaron
> --
> Aaron Finke
> Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
> Cornell University
> e-mail: af...@cornell.edu
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2019, at 17:07, Alexandra Deaconescu <
> alexandra_deacone...@brown.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is anyone aware of a company that sells Beryllium chloride in the US?
> Sigma does not carry it any longer, and a quick Google search failed to
> reveal alternatives.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Alexandra
>
>
> --
> Alexandra Deaconescu, B.E., Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Brown University
>
> Office: (401) 863-3215
> Wet Lab: (401) 863-6729
> Computational Lab: (401) 863-7031
>
> For Mail:
> Laboratories of Molecular Medicine
> 70 Ship St. GE-4
> Providence, RI 02903
>
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Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-02 Thread Aaron Finke

1. Yes, I meant the tetrahydrate, [Be(H2O)4]2+ 2Cl-

2. Bob, I studied that page, and couldn’t get past  BeCl2 is known to have a 
“sweetish taste.” I’m very glad chemists no longer characterize chemicals by 
their taste anymore...

--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 1, 2019, at 22:37, Sweet, Robert 
<27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk<mailto:27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>>
 wrote:


With all respect, this conversation make my skin crawl a little. I've been 
taught that beryllium salts are EXTREMELY toxic.  Please study this: 
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/beryllium_chloride


Hopefully,


Bob



  Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  
sw...@bnl.gov<mailto:sw...@bnl.gov>
  Deputy Director, LSBR: The Life Science and
   Biomedical Technology Research Center at NSLS-II
  Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
  Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
  Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
  Phones:631 344 3401  (Office)
 631 338 7302  (Mobile)



From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> 
on behalf of Diana Tomchick 
mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>>
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 7:03 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

No, that should read

[cid:2D6B8E73-AD29-4B8C-972A-06201D871588]

Diana

**
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
UT Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
(214) 645-6383 (phone)
(214) 645-6353 (fax)

On Apr 1, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Keller, Jacob 
mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>> wrote:

Is that 4+ an April fools’ joke? Pretty crazy if not…can’t think of another ion 
with such a charge, well except things like DNA and proteins, but not single 
atoms.

JPK

+
Jacob Pearson Keller
Research Scientist / Looger Lab
HHMI Janelia Research Campus
19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
Cell: (301)592-7004
+

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From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> 
On Behalf Of Aaron Finke
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 6:45 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

American Elements sells BeCl2 but you’d have to check with them on what scale 
they sell it at. They tend to do custom manufacturing.

https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-7787-47-5

BeCl2 dissociates in aqueous solution to form Be(H2O)4+ 2Cl-.


Aaron

--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 1, 2019, at 17:07, Alexandra Deaconescu 
mailto:alexandra_deacone...@brown.edu>> wrote:

Hello,

Is anyone aware of a company that sells Beryllium chloride in the US? Sigma 
does not carry it any longer, and a quick Google search failed to reveal 
alternatives.

Thank you very much,

Alexandra


--
Alexandra Deaconescu, B.E., Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Brown University

Office: (401) 863-3215
Wet Lab: (401) 863-6729
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Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-01 Thread CRAIG A BINGMAN

Bob,

Yes, Be salts are wildly toxic. They are also useful in structural studies on 
enzymes that perform phosphoryl transfers, almost always as beryllium fluoride 
complexes. The PDB contains about 200 such structures.

Craig

On Apr 1, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Sweet, Robert 
<27e0eb9d20ec-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk>
 wrote:

With all respect, this conversation make my skin crawl a little. I've been 
taught that beryllium salts are EXTREMELY toxic.  Please study this: 
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/beryllium_chloride




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Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-01 Thread Sweet, Robert

With all respect, this conversation make my skin crawl a little. I've been 
taught that beryllium salts are EXTREMELY toxic.  Please study this: 
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/beryllium_chloride


Hopefully,


Bob



  Robert M. Sweet   E-Dress:  sw...@bnl.gov
  Deputy Director, LSBR: The Life Science and
   Biomedical Technology Research Center at NSLS-II
  Photon Sciences and Biology Dept
  Brookhaven Nat'l Lab.
  Upton, NY  11973 U.S.A.
  Phones:631 344 3401  (Office)
 631 338 7302  (Mobile)



From: CCP4 bulletin board  on behalf of Diana Tomchick 

Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 7:03 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

No, that should read

[cid:2D6B8E73-AD29-4B8C-972A-06201D871588]

Diana

**
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
UT Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
(214) 645-6383 (phone)
(214) 645-6353 (fax)

On Apr 1, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Keller, Jacob 
mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>> wrote:

Is that 4+ an April fools’ joke? Pretty crazy if not…can’t think of another ion 
with such a charge, well except things like DNA and proteins, but not single 
atoms.

JPK

+
Jacob Pearson Keller
Research Scientist / Looger Lab
HHMI Janelia Research Campus
19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
Cell: (301)592-7004
+

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From: CCP4 bulletin board mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> 
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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 6:45 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

American Elements sells BeCl2 but you’d have to check with them on what scale 
they sell it at. They tend to do custom manufacturing.

https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-7787-47-5

BeCl2 dissociates in aqueous solution to form Be(H2O)4+ 2Cl-.


Aaron

--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 1, 2019, at 17:07, Alexandra Deaconescu 
mailto:alexandra_deacone...@brown.edu>> wrote:

Hello,

Is anyone aware of a company that sells Beryllium chloride in the US? Sigma 
does not carry it any longer, and a quick Google search failed to reveal 
alternatives.

Thank you very much,

Alexandra


--
Alexandra Deaconescu, B.E., Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Brown University

Office: (401) 863-3215
Wet Lab: (401) 863-6729
Computational Lab: (401) 863-7031

For Mail:
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70 Ship St. GE-4
Providence, RI 02903

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Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-01 Thread Diana Tomchick

No, that should read

[cid:2D6B8E73-AD29-4B8C-972A-06201D871588]

Diana

**
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
UT Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
(214) 645-6383 (phone)
(214) 645-6353 (fax)

On Apr 1, 2019, at 5:54 PM, Keller, Jacob 
mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>> wrote:

Is that 4+ an April fools’ joke? Pretty crazy if not…can’t think of another ion 
with such a charge, well except things like DNA and proteins, but not single 
atoms.

JPK

+
Jacob Pearson Keller
Research Scientist / Looger Lab
HHMI Janelia Research Campus
19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
Cell: (301)592-7004
+

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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 6:45 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

American Elements sells BeCl2 but you’d have to check with them on what scale 
they sell it at. They tend to do custom manufacturing.

https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-7787-47-5

BeCl2 dissociates in aqueous solution to form Be(H2O)4+ 2Cl-.

Aaron
--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 1, 2019, at 17:07, Alexandra Deaconescu 
mailto:alexandra_deacone...@brown.edu>> wrote:
Hello,

Is anyone aware of a company that sells Beryllium chloride in the US? Sigma 
does not carry it any longer, and a quick Google search failed to reveal 
alternatives.

Thank you very much,

Alexandra


--
Alexandra Deaconescu, B.E., Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Brown University

Office: (401) 863-3215
Wet Lab: (401) 863-6729
Computational Lab: (401) 863-7031

For Mail:
Laboratories of Molecular Medicine
70 Ship St. GE-4
Providence, RI 02903

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Brown University
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Providence, RI 02903

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Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-01 Thread Keller, Jacob

Is that 4+ an April fools’ joke? Pretty crazy if not…can’t think of another ion 
with such a charge, well except things like DNA and proteins, but not single 
atoms.

JPK

+
Jacob Pearson Keller
Research Scientist / Looger Lab
HHMI Janelia Research Campus
19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147
Desk: (571)209-4000 x3159
Cell: (301)592-7004
+

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From: CCP4 bulletin board  On Behalf Of Aaron Finke
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 6:45 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

American Elements sells BeCl2 but you’d have to check with them on what scale 
they sell it at. They tend to do custom manufacturing.

https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-7787-47-5

BeCl2 dissociates in aqueous solution to form Be(H2O)4+ 2Cl-.

Aaron
--
Aaron Finke
Staff Scientist, MacCHESS
Cornell University
e-mail: af...@cornell.edu<mailto:af...@cornell.edu>

On Apr 1, 2019, at 17:07, Alexandra Deaconescu 
mailto:alexandra_deacone...@brown.edu>> wrote:
Hello,

Is anyone aware of a company that sells Beryllium chloride in the US? Sigma 
does not carry it any longer, and a quick Google search failed to reveal 
alternatives.

Thank you very much,

Alexandra


--
Alexandra Deaconescu, B.E., Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Brown University

Office: (401) 863-3215
Wet Lab: (401) 863-6729
Computational Lab: (401) 863-7031

For Mail:
Laboratories of Molecular Medicine
70 Ship St. GE-4
Providence, RI 02903

For Courier:
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Brown University
70 Ship St., Chestnut St. Loading Dock
Providence, RI 02903

Website: www.deaconesculab.com<http://www.deaconesculab.com>

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Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-01 Thread Aaron Finke

American Elements sells BeCl2 but you’d have to check with them on what scale 
they sell it at. They tend to do custom manufacturing.

https://www.americanelements.com/beryllium-chloride-7787-47-5

BeCl2 dissociates in aqueous solution to form Be(H2O)4+ 2Cl-.

Aaron

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On Apr 1, 2019, at 17:07, Alexandra Deaconescu 
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Hello,

Is anyone aware of a company that sells Beryllium chloride in the US? Sigma 
does not carry it any longer, and a quick Google search failed to reveal 
alternatives.

Thank you very much,

Alexandra


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Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-01 Thread CRAIG A BINGMAN

You can purchase beryllium oxide through a number of vendors. After careful 
neutralization with an appropriate amount of HCl, you should have BeCl2 in 
solution. I usually use pH paper to check the pH in such small volume 
operations.

> On Apr 1, 2019, at 4:07 PM, Alexandra Deaconescu 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Is anyone aware of a company that sells Beryllium chloride in the US? Sigma 
> does not carry it any longer, and a quick Google search failed to reveal 
> alternatives.
> 
> Thank you very much,
> 
> Alexandra
> 
> 
> -- 
> Alexandra Deaconescu, B.E., Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Brown University
> 
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> Computational Lab: (401) 863-7031
> 
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> 70 Ship St. GE-4
> Providence, RI 02903
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Re: [ccp4bb] beryllium chloride

2019-04-01 Thread Daniel Anderson

Is this for standard crystals? I think people used to use "basic 
beryllium acetate" for that application. A quick Google search got me 
nowhere.


-Dan


On 4/1/19 2:07 PM, Alexandra Deaconescu wrote:

Hello,

Is anyone aware of a company that sells Beryllium chloride in the US? 
Sigma does not carry it any longer, and a quick Google search failed 
to reveal alternatives.


Thank you very much,

Alexandra






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