Re: Factory Rodent Urine, was Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?
On 8/31/2020 7:25 PM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: Not funny if your prized treasures fall victim to it. :-( A friend had Western Dynex 10mb drives years ago which were hard to come by. Equivalent to the RL02's. He had a test system which could run Microdata Reality as a test station for debugging hardware. As a matter of course, he'd also had a mouse which he took to feeding peanuts to and it would come out and beg. One morning he turned on the drive, it loaded, but wouldn't come ready. Eventually pulled it out and got ready to see what had failed and there were no obvious electrical faults. On looking closer if you recall on those drives they had very fine 4 wire sleeved wiring to the heads. Used some flex wire shieldng, but most of the length was in clear vinyl small tubing. All 4 of them were neatly clipped off and in the bottom of the drive. Set a rat trap that night, goodby mouse. I was sad, but that bit cost about $1,500 or so to fix. thankks jim
Fwd: Factory Rodent Urine, was Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?
-- Forwarded message - From: Tom Hunter Date: Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Factory Rodent Urine, was Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM? To: Chuck Guzis Thanks Chuck, Unfortunately it is well past cleaning. The lead/tin alloy has corroded into a hard oxide with very high melting temperature. Lead oxide melts at 800+ degrees C and tin oxide at 1300+ degrees C. This is well past the 300 degrees C a soldering iron produces. Most importantly the copper pads below and some of the tracks are gone completely. About 70% of the board is pristine. Only the section which has been exposed to the liquid is corroded. I can't say for sure that it is rodent urine, but when I tried to reflow the corroded solder joints it faintly smelled like my firewood where rats nested one winter. Of course there is no chance for a rat or even the tiniest mouse to get into a fully assembled Sun/Sony CDROM with the affected PCB side facing down and somehow urinate upwards towards the PCB. As the drive was never before disassembled it could only have happened during manufacturing. 20 years ago when I put the drive and other SPARX LX gear into my display cabinet I could have easily found a replacement. Now it won't be easy. The sad thing about it is that everything was pristine when I put it in my cabinet. Cheers Tom Hunter On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 1:41 PM Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 8/31/20 7:25 PM, Tom Hunter wrote: > > Not funny if your prized treasures fall victim to it. > > > > I found that oven cleaner can loosen layers of the stuff without too > much damage to the electronics underneath. Soap and water won't cut it. > > --Chuck > >
Re: Spam
I had troubles with a fellow in England using my email address to mail spam. I traced down his IP address and the company that was being used. I sent mail to him a couple times and asked him to stop using my address. I then sent copies of the junk he was sending to his provider and within a week it stopped. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Tom Hunter via cctalk Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 7:28 PM To: jim stephens ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Spam Today I received two empty emails from Bill Degnan via this list. No subject and no message body. Googled put them into the Spam folder. Tom Hunter On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 8:38 AM jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 8/31/2020 3:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit > > called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? > > > > Regards, > > Peter Coghlan. > > > i've found that someone who has had their emails in someones inbox may > get their emails harvested and added to spam lists. > > I've got some past members here who still send spam. > > Unfortunately since we want to respond directly thru this to users, the > email addresses are in the email messages. If a spam creating exploit > is through, it will pluck off the sender's email, which is the reply-to > address. > > It may have nothing to do with the list or any user you can determine, > but sometimes it does. > > Thanks > JIm >
Re: Spam
As a moderator, I am quite sure that no spam actually came through the list. On a few occasions the spam has come from a list member's address and gets passed straight through, but that's quite rare. However the number of spam posts to the list exceeds real posts by a factor of about 10. So it's quite possible that I will click the wrong button and you will all get a spam message. For some reason almost all the current spam is in German. (And if you can, please don't post messages with spammy subjects like "Look at this!" if you want it to go through.) Bill Degnan (or an imposter) did post a couple of empty messages recently, no great harm done there. Lawrence On 1/09/20 12:55 am, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit > called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? > > Regards, > Peter Coghlan. -- Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360
Re: Factory Rodent Urine, was Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?
Not fun at all - :-( Kindest regards, Doug Jackson em: d...@doughq.com ph: 0414 986878 Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net --- Just like an old fashioned letter, this email and any files transmitted with it should probably be treated as confidential and intended solely for your own use. Please note that any interesting spelling is usually my own and may have been caused by fat thumbs on a tiny tiny keyboard. Should any part of this message prove to be useful in the event of the imminent Zombie Apocalypse then the sender bears no personal, legal, or moral responsibility for any outcome resulting from its usage unless the result of said usage is the unlikely defeat of the Zombie Hordes in which case the sender takes full credit without any theoretical or actual legal liability. :-) Be nice to your parents. Go outside and do something awesome - Draw, paint, walk, setup a radio station, go fishing or sailing - just do something that makes you happy. ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G- In more laid back days this line would literally sing ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:25 PM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > Not funny if your prized treasures fall victim to it. > > :-( > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 10:11 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 8/31/20 6:21 PM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > > > On 8/30/20 6:32 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > >> I now wonder if 25+ years ago during production of the CDROM at the > Sony > > >> factory some rodent relieved itself over one or more PCBs and next > > >> morning > > >> the PCB got assembled into a CDROM drive. > > > > > > I've heard of "factory rust" and "factory oil leaks," but never before > > > have I run across the concept of "factory rodent urine..." > > > > Wait'll you get one where several generations of mice have raised their > > young. It ain't just pee... > > > > --Chuck > > >
Re: Spam
Today I received two empty emails from Bill Degnan via this list. No subject and no message body. Googled put them into the Spam folder. Tom Hunter On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 8:38 AM jim stephens via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 8/31/2020 3:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit > > called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? > > > > Regards, > > Peter Coghlan. > > > i've found that someone who has had their emails in someones inbox may > get their emails harvested and added to spam lists. > > I've got some past members here who still send spam. > > Unfortunately since we want to respond directly thru this to users, the > email addresses are in the email messages. If a spam creating exploit > is through, it will pluck off the sender's email, which is the reply-to > address. > > It may have nothing to do with the list or any user you can determine, > but sometimes it does. > > Thanks > JIm >
Re: Factory Rodent Urine, was Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?
Not funny if your prized treasures fall victim to it. :-( On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 10:11 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 8/31/20 6:21 PM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > > On 8/30/20 6:32 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > >> I now wonder if 25+ years ago during production of the CDROM at the Sony > >> factory some rodent relieved itself over one or more PCBs and next > >> morning > >> the PCB got assembled into a CDROM drive. > > > > I've heard of "factory rust" and "factory oil leaks," but never before > > have I run across the concept of "factory rodent urine..." > > Wait'll you get one where several generations of mice have raised their > young. It ain't just pee... > > --Chuck >
Re: Factory Rodent Urine, was Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?
On 8/31/20 6:21 PM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > On 8/30/20 6:32 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: >> I now wonder if 25+ years ago during production of the CDROM at the Sony >> factory some rodent relieved itself over one or more PCBs and next >> morning >> the PCB got assembled into a CDROM drive. > > I've heard of "factory rust" and "factory oil leaks," but never before > have I run across the concept of "factory rodent urine..." Wait'll you get one where several generations of mice have raised their young. It ain't just pee... --Chuck
Re: Factory Rodent Urine, was Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 9:22 PM Steven M Jones via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 8/30/20 6:32 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > I now wonder if 25+ years ago during production of the CDROM at the Sony > > factory some rodent relieved itself over one or more PCBs and next > morning > > the PCB got assembled into a CDROM drive. > > I've heard of "factory rust" and "factory oil leaks," but never before > have I run across the concept of "factory rodent urine..." > > Scientific name: rattus factorus b
Factory Rodent Urine, was Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?
On 8/30/20 6:32 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: I now wonder if 25+ years ago during production of the CDROM at the Sony factory some rodent relieved itself over one or more PCBs and next morning the PCB got assembled into a CDROM drive. I've heard of "factory rust" and "factory oil leaks," but never before have I run across the concept of "factory rodent urine..."
Re: Spam
On 8/31/2020 3:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? Regards, Peter Coghlan. i've found that someone who has had their emails in someones inbox may get their emails harvested and added to spam lists. I've got some past members here who still send spam. Unfortunately since we want to respond directly thru this to users, the email addresses are in the email messages. If a spam creating exploit is through, it will pluck off the sender's email, which is the reply-to address. It may have nothing to do with the list or any user you can determine, but sometimes it does. Thanks JIm
Re: Spam
Yeah, I run spf and DKIM on the crystel.com domain here, I'm not giving up my personal bit of string to give google control of my mail. SPF has helped a lot to be honest, every once in awhile I get a surge of reports from the big guys and I know someone's trying to spoof my From: Annoying, but we built email to do this because it was a lot more efficient to be polite. Pity people are jerks. C On 8/31/2020 7:37 PM, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: Not me either, But I pass all of my email through gmail, and it filters out all of the spam for me anyway. A couple of years ago, some helpful person selected my email for sending millions of messages and it broke my email environment, the only way I could get it working again was to either abandon my email, or use gmail for everything. instant, clean email feed. Kindest regards, Doug Jackson em: d...@doughq.com ph: 0414 986878 Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net --- Just like an old fashioned letter, this email and any files transmitted with it should probably be treated as confidential and intended solely for your own use. Please note that any interesting spelling is usually my own and may have been caused by fat thumbs on a tiny tiny keyboard. Should any part of this message prove to be useful in the event of the imminent Zombie Apocalypse then the sender bears no personal, legal, or moral responsibility for any outcome resulting from its usage unless the result of said usage is the unlikely defeat of the Zombie Hordes in which case the sender takes full credit without any theoretical or actual legal liability. :-) Be nice to your parents. Go outside and do something awesome - Draw, paint, walk, setup a radio station, go fishing or sailing - just do something that makes you happy. ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G- In more laid back days this line would literally sing ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 9:33 AM mazzinia--- via cctalk wrote: Not me -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan via cctalk Sent: 01 September 2020 00:55 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Spam Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? Regards, Peter Coghlan.
Re: IBM 3270 compatible terminal connected to Hercules IBM mainframe emulator.
Wow Mattis this looks great, fantastic work! I will see if I can solder up a unit from what you have up on github on a perf board (I should have a few bluepills kicking around) and see if I can assist in some way with testing on a 3174-61R I have. Unfortunately its the only one I have and I have a few 3270 terminals so I would like to keep it in my ownership. But they definitely do show up, a lot more often than it seems the terminals do nowadays. I have the Ethernet controllers for my 3174-R61 which I know people generally use for communications with things like Hercules but as those are much less common it would be nice to see if we can verify this works on these terminal controllers and make using 3270 terminals with Hercules more accessible to people! If you'd like me to work with you on testing this let me know. I'll definitely see if I can try it out myself anyway. Either way, fantastic work and thanks for putting everything up on github! -Connor K On 8/30/2020 02:23, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: I have been working on a project for some time to connect a IBM3270 compatible Alfaskop terminal with its IBM 3274 compatible cluster controller to the Hercules mainframe emulator. Yesterday I eventually succeeded. I was able to login to TSO on my Hercules system that ran MVS 3.8j. Here are a couple quick video clips: https://youtu.be/H1Sxt7xjn4Y https://youtu.be/CFfB3yCN9OI To achieve this I created a small piece of hardware I called SyncDongle, essentially it's just a few level converters, connectors and a STM32F103 blue pill. On the hardware I run a small piece of firmware, BSCBridge. It bridges between the sync serial BSC used by the Alfaskop cluster controller and the BSC variant that the 2703 emulation inside Hercules is using. More information here: https://github.com/MattisLind/alfaskop_emu and here http://www.datormuseum.se/peripherals/terminals/alfaskop There are good chances that the SyncDongle/BSCBridge combo could work with a 3274 or 3174 controller as well but I haven't tested since I don't have one. But no guarantees given, though. If someone has a spare 3174-51R, -61R, -81R or -91R I would be very interested in it. Actually there is a good chance that it could work with general BSC use. Maybe for NJE between Hercules and a real IBM machine? Or 2780/3780 RJE terminals? Or other third party 3270 terminals using BSC. The BSCBridge firmware only supports non transparent mode at this point, it works fine with Alfaskop since it does not support anything else. Maybe a showstopper for 3174 with 3279 terminals? SHouldn't be that difficult to add transparent mode if needed. /Mattis
Re: Spam
> On Aug 31, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit > called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? > > Regards, > Peter Coghlan. Nope. Keep in mind that criminals often forge source addresses. So while it may say it came from cctalk, it doesn't mean it actually did. Looking at the full headers will often tell you, if you care to go to the trouble. For example, I get spam every few weeks claiming to be from one specific person on the list here, but it never actually is from that address. paul
Re: Spam
Gmail flags a lot of messages from cctalk/tech as spam but I did not get that one On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 7:38 PM Doug Jackson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Not me either, > > But I pass all of my email through gmail, and it filters out all of the > spam for me anyway. > > A couple of years ago, some helpful person selected my email for sending > millions of messages and it broke my email environment, the only way I > could get it working again was to either abandon my email, or use gmail for > everything. > > instant, clean email feed. > > Kindest regards, > > Doug Jackson > > em: d...@doughq.com > ph: 0414 986878 > > Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com > Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net > > --- > > Just like an old fashioned letter, this email and any files transmitted > with it should probably be treated as confidential and intended solely for > your own use. > > Please note that any interesting spelling is usually my own and may have > been caused by fat thumbs on a tiny tiny keyboard. > > Should any part of this message prove to be useful in the event of the > imminent Zombie Apocalypse then the sender bears no personal, legal, or > moral responsibility for any outcome resulting from its usage unless the > result of said usage is the unlikely defeat of the Zombie Hordes in which > case the sender takes full credit without any theoretical or actual legal > liability. :-) > > Be nice to your parents. > > Go outside and do something awesome - Draw, paint, walk, setup a > radio station, go fishing or sailing - just do something that makes you > happy. > > ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G- In more laid back days this line would literally > sing ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G > > > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 9:33 AM mazzinia--- via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > Not me > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan > > via > > cctalk > > Sent: 01 September 2020 00:55 > > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > > Subject: Spam > > > > Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit > > called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? > > > > Regards, > > Peter Coghlan. > > > > >
Re: Spam
Not me either, But I pass all of my email through gmail, and it filters out all of the spam for me anyway. A couple of years ago, some helpful person selected my email for sending millions of messages and it broke my email environment, the only way I could get it working again was to either abandon my email, or use gmail for everything. instant, clean email feed. Kindest regards, Doug Jackson em: d...@doughq.com ph: 0414 986878 Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net --- Just like an old fashioned letter, this email and any files transmitted with it should probably be treated as confidential and intended solely for your own use. Please note that any interesting spelling is usually my own and may have been caused by fat thumbs on a tiny tiny keyboard. Should any part of this message prove to be useful in the event of the imminent Zombie Apocalypse then the sender bears no personal, legal, or moral responsibility for any outcome resulting from its usage unless the result of said usage is the unlikely defeat of the Zombie Hordes in which case the sender takes full credit without any theoretical or actual legal liability. :-) Be nice to your parents. Go outside and do something awesome - Draw, paint, walk, setup a radio station, go fishing or sailing - just do something that makes you happy. ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G- In more laid back days this line would literally sing ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G ^G On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 9:33 AM mazzinia--- via cctalk wrote: > Not me > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan > via > cctalk > Sent: 01 September 2020 00:55 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Spam > > Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit > called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? > > Regards, > Peter Coghlan. > >
RE: Spam
Not me -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan via cctalk Sent: 01 September 2020 00:55 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Spam Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? Regards, Peter Coghlan.
Spam
Anybody else on cctech/cctalk receive a blatant spam today from an outfit called "SparkPost" with "OptIn Live" in the subject? Regards, Peter Coghlan.
