Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

2018-08-10 Thread W2HX via cctalk
in case anyone is interested...Actually the coupler does communicate with the 
GX007 but only optionally. The serial control simply loops through from the 
coupler to the GX unit and right to a serial terminal (my understanding from 
various docs I have gathered on the subject). The TX/RX lines just loop 
directly in and then back out of the GX to the DB25 serial port.

I agree, however, that the length could easily exceed the specs for RS232. In 
fact I had expected this system to  use some differential signalling like 
RS422/485 and was surprised that it did not seem to. The serial communication 
is actually optional. There are about 26 lines (4 power, 3 serial comm and 
about 19 others) used to either configure or report status. Personally I would 
prefer to use the serial control to avoid running 26 lines from the shack to 
the antenna site.

Ultimately, this coupler only needs 26VDC @ 6A and nothing else. It will work 
totally automatically (when set to work that way). But it is nice to get 
temperature and other details from the status messages.

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Subject: Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

On 08/10/2018 01:47 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
On 08/09/2018 09:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote:
> Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial 
> port parameters. I used google translate but it  doesn't quite give me the 
> warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says:
>
> Betriebsart:  Asynchron 16

Possibly they are referring to a UART that internally uses 16x oversampling, 
which is quite common, but that information is not normally needed in a 
description of communication parameters.


OK, Having read the manual on the antenna tuner and done some
research I have found that there is a box that connects to the tuner
and and a terminal.  My guess is that "Asynchron 16" refers to some
proprietary hardware/communications protocol used between the
antenna tuner and the GX007 control unit.
Considering the function of the unit, I expect the distance between
the tuner and any terminal would have exceeded RS-232 and the
environment could easily be too harsh for RS-232 as well (think static
electricity and even lightening!!)  An interesting device at any rate.
Wish I had one.  :-)

bill



Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

2018-08-10 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk


On 08/10/2018 01:47 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
On 08/09/2018 09:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote:
> Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial 
> port parameters. I used google translate but it  doesn't quite give me the 
> warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says:
>
> Betriebsart:  Asynchron 16

Possibly they are referring to a UART that internally uses 16x oversampling, 
which is quite common, but that information is not normally needed in a 
description of communication parameters.


OK, Having read the manual on the antenna tuner and done some
research I have found that there is a box that connects to the tuner
and and a terminal.  My guess is that "Asynchron 16" refers to some
proprietary hardware/communications protocol used between the
antenna tuner and the GX007 control unit.
Considering the function of the unit, I expect the distance between
the tuner and any terminal would have exceeded RS-232 and the
environment could easily be too harsh for RS-232 as well (think static
electricity and even lightening!!)  An interesting device at any rate.
Wish I had one.  :-)

bill



Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

2018-08-10 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 08/09/2018 09:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote:
> > Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing
> serial port parameters. I used google translate but it  doesn't quite give
> me the warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says:
> >
> > Betriebsart:  Asynchron 16
>

Possibly they are referring to a UART that internally uses 16x
oversampling, which is quite common, but that information is not normally
needed in a description of communication parameters.


Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

2018-08-10 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Did the freighter come with it or do you have to buy your own

to use it?  :-)


bill



On 08/10/2018 10:13 AM, W2HX via cctalk wrote:
> thanks everyone!
> 
> From: Paul Koning 
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:22 AM
> To: W2HX; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: German Translation, Serial Port?
>
>> On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk  wrote:
>>
>> Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial 
>> port parameters. I used google translate but it  doesn't quite give me the 
>> warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says:
>>
>> Betriebsart:  Asynchron 16
>> Zeichenlänge:  7 bit (mit Sperrschritt)
>> Parity: gerade
>> Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit
>>
>> Google says:
>> Operating mode: Asynchronous 16
>> Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step)
>> Parity: straight
>> Length of blocking step: 1 bit
>>
>> First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but 
>> "16"?)
>> 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit?
>> Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even?
>> Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits?
> Yes, stop bit, one bit long.  Even parity.No idea about the 16.
>
>  paul
>



Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

2018-08-10 Thread W2HX via cctalk
thanks everyone!

From: Paul Koning 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:22 AM
To: W2HX; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

> On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk  wrote:
>
> Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial 
> port parameters. I used google translate but it  doesn't quite give me the 
> warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says:
>
> Betriebsart:  Asynchron 16
> Zeichenlänge:  7 bit (mit Sperrschritt)
> Parity: gerade
> Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit
>
> Google says:
> Operating mode: Asynchronous 16
> Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step)
> Parity: straight
> Length of blocking step: 1 bit
>
> First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but 
> "16"?)
> 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit?
> Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even?
> Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits?

Yes, stop bit, one bit long.  Even parity.No idea about the 16.

paul



Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

2018-08-10 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial 
> port parameters. I used google translate but it  doesn't quite give me the 
> warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says:
> 
> Betriebsart:  Asynchron 16
> Zeichenlänge:  7 bit (mit Sperrschritt)
> Parity: gerade
> Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit
> 
> Google says:
> Operating mode: Asynchronous 16
> Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step)
> Parity: straight
> Length of blocking step: 1 bit
> 
> First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but 
> "16"?)
> 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit?
> Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even?
> Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits?

Yes, stop bit, one bit long.  Even parity.No idea about the 16.

paul



Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

2018-08-09 Thread Rico Pajarola via cctalk
Sperrschritt is the stop bit, for the rest Google translate did quite well
;)

Operations mode: Asynchronous 16
Character length: 7 bit (with stop bit)
Parity: even
stop bit length: 1 bit

I have no idea what Asynchronous 16 could be, maybe a hint at the higher
level protocol?


On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk 
wrote:

> Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial
> port parameters. I used google translate but it  doesn't quite give me the
> warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says:
>
> Betriebsart:  Asynchron 16
> Zeichenlänge:  7 bit (mit Sperrschritt)
> Parity: gerade
> Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit
>
> Google says:
> Operating mode: Asynchronous 16
> Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step)
> Parity: straight
> Length of blocking step: 1 bit
>
> First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but
> "16"?)
> 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit?
> Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even?
> Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits?
>
> I am attempting to translate some pages in this manual and would like to
> get this right (for others who may find this info useful).
>
> Thank you!!! (or should I say Danke?!)
>
>
> 73 Eugene W2HX
> PS. This is for an HF antenna coupler that can be controlled over a serial
> port.
>
>


Re: German Translation, Serial Port?

2018-08-09 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk


On 08/09/2018 09:39 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote:
> Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial 
> port parameters. I used google translate but it  doesn't quite give me the 
> warm and fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says:
>
> Betriebsart:  Asynchron 16
> Zeichenlänge:  7 bit (mit Sperrschritt)
> Parity: gerade
> Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit
>
> Google says:
> Operating mode: Asynchronous 16
> Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step)
> Parity: straight
> Length of blocking step: 1 bit
>
> First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but 
> "16"?)
> 7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit?
> Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even?
> Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits?
>
>

I don't know what they mean by Asynchron 16 but the rest ins quite normal.

For Parity "gerade" means even.
"Sperrschritt" is Stop Bits.

So you have:
   7 bit
   even parity
   one stop bit.

It's possible that the 16 refers to baud rate.  Is there a table of any 
kind in
the manual?  Is it big?  Could you provide a scan?

bill  KB3YV (formerly DA1WO)



German Translation, Serial Port?

2018-08-09 Thread W2HX via cctalk
Hello friends. I need a translation from a German manual describing serial port 
parameters. I used google translate but it  doesn't quite give me the warm and 
fuzzy. Anyone here speak German? Here is what it says:

Betriebsart:  Asynchron 16
Zeichenlänge:  7 bit (mit Sperrschritt)
Parity: gerade
Länge Sperrschritt: 1 bit

Google says:
Operating mode: Asynchronous 16
Character length: 7 bit (with blocking step)
Parity: straight
Length of blocking step: 1 bit

First, anyone have any idea what Asynchronous 16 means? (async I get, but "16"?)
7 bit with blocking step. Could this mean 7 bit with stop bit?
Parity: straight. Could this mean odd or even?
Length of blocking step. Could this be number of stop bits?

I am attempting to translate some pages in this manual and would like to get 
this right (for others who may find this info useful).

Thank you!!! (or should I say Danke?!)


73 Eugene W2HX
PS. This is for an HF antenna coupler that can be controlled over a serial port.