Re: OT: Weller soldering irons

2020-04-05 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 4:40 AM Doug Jackson via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> for me, the item that usually fails in the WTCP series is the switch at the
> end of the sensor.
>
> I have replaced the sensors each time, because dammit - My 40 year old iron
> sometimes just needs a new cord, or a new heater, or a new tip, or a new
> sensor.  Best iron I have ever had :-)

The element in my Weller TCP failed a couple of years ago, after 25
years on my bench and having soldered probably hundreds of thousands
of joints. I bought a replacement (not _too_ expensive) and a spare to
go in the tool cupboard. I then realised that if the replacements last
as long as the original I will never have to buy another element, I'll
be gone first!

-tony


Re: OT: Weller soldering irons

2020-04-05 Thread Doug Jackson via cctalk
for me, the item that usually fails in the WTCP series is the switch at the
end of the sensor.

I have replaced the sensors each time, because dammit - My 40 year old iron
sometimes just needs a new cord, or a new heater, or a new tip, or a new
sensor.  Best iron I have ever had :-)


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On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:14 AM Pete Turnbull via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On 06/04/2020 00:22, Jon Elson wrote:
> > On 04/05/2020 03:32 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> >> A few hours ago I started looking at three "smart" light switches that
> >> need LEDs replaced, and switched on the soldering iron, and ... nope.
> >> It's a Weller WP80 and it seems the sensor in the heating element has
> >> died.
>
> > Is the sensor a separate component?
>
> Sadly, no.  That's the first thing I thought of.  The heater and sensor
> are integral with the stainless steel shaft and I can't see any way to
> get them out without destroying the shaft.
>
> --
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Re: OT: Weller soldering irons

2020-04-05 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk

On 06/04/2020 00:22, Jon Elson wrote:

On 04/05/2020 03:32 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
A few hours ago I started looking at three "smart" light switches that 
need LEDs replaced, and switched on the soldering iron, and ... nope. 
It's a Weller WP80 and it seems the sensor in the heating element has 
died.



Is the sensor a separate component?


Sadly, no.  That's the first thing I thought of.  The heater and sensor 
are integral with the stainless steel shaft and I can't see any way to 
get them out without destroying the shaft.


--
Pete
Pete Turnbull


Re: OT: Weller soldering irons

2020-04-05 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 04/05/2020 03:32 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
A few hours ago I started looking at three "smart" light 
switches that need LEDs replaced, and switched on the 
soldering iron, and ... nope. It's a Weller WP80 and it 
seems the sensor in the heating element has died.  I 
discovered that only after resetting and then dismantling 
the control unit to check it out with a DVM, of course.


Clearly I need either a new WP80 element, or a new 
soldering iron.  I could get a WSP80 for far less than the 
cost of a new element for the WP80, but I'd get the 
element faster.  So which, if any, is the better iron?  
What would you guys do?


I begrudge paying UKP 92 for a new element.  That's the 
cheapest I could find -- /half/ the most expensive price 
-- but just seems ludicrously extortionate for what 
amounts to a piece of swaged stainless steel tube with a 
short length of resistance wire and an even shorter length 
of thermocouple wire inside it.  I could buy a whole new 
solder station with more bells and whistles, albeit of a 
"lesser brand", for less.


Is the sensor a separate component?  On the EC1302 and 
several other models, the sensor is
a separate piece that fits up through the center of the 
heater and poked into the back of the
replaceable tip.  I got one for that iron years ago from, I 
think, Newark.  So, you might try

at Farnell and see if they have spares.

Jon


OT: Weller soldering irons

2020-04-05 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
A few hours ago I started looking at three "smart" light switches that 
need LEDs replaced, and switched on the soldering iron, and ... nope. 
It's a Weller WP80 and it seems the sensor in the heating element has 
died.  I discovered that only after resetting and then dismantling the 
control unit to check it out with a DVM, of course.


Clearly I need either a new WP80 element, or a new soldering iron.  I 
could get a WSP80 for far less than the cost of a new element for the 
WP80, but I'd get the element faster.  So which, if any, is the better 
iron?  What would you guys do?


I begrudge paying UKP 92 for a new element.  That's the cheapest I could 
find -- /half/ the most expensive price -- but just seems ludicrously 
extortionate for what amounts to a piece of swaged stainless steel tube 
with a short length of resistance wire and an even shorter length of 
thermocouple wire inside it.  I could buy a whole new solder station 
with more bells and whistles, albeit of a "lesser brand", for less.


--
Pete
Pete Turnbull