Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] Other CDE and Motif related goodies out there
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 14:28 -0500, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: If someone gets it working and wants to jazz it up a bit, there’s other goodies out there. xlockmore - some versions (google for it) included the ability to build with CDE support; I have an extended action file to invoke that with the appropriate arguments, which adds some much cooler screen savers. Some of them need 3D acceleration to not be dogs. Someone had done some audio utilities, that implemented the Sun keyboard volume keys, and provided a nice front panel volume control. The site doesn’t seem to be around anymore (and the relevant pages don’t seem to be in archive.org), but I’ve got a copy (although so far, I only found the extracted version, not the original archive file). Note: all that is very specific to Sun keyboards and/or audio interfaces; but if someone wanted to use it as a starting point for similar functionality elsewhere, it might be easier than starting from scratch. Older versions of the xpat2 multiple solitaire games program included Motif support (which I think was ripped out at some point). Someone else had done a digital clock for the front panel; haven’t tried to track that down yet. There are (or were) perl modules to interact with the calendar; they could be used to automatically insert entries for holidays every year. While it wasn’t as pretty as the Sun CDE sdtwinlst, there was something that would list windows; I think I helped get it working, maybe I still have that somewhere. Yep, found a site that has it: http://levana.de/findwindow/find_window.shtml I have one or two oddities myself, listed at http://www.smart.net/~rlhamil/ (the bottom few entries). The one I know some people other than me have used is dtwmcmd (sends f. commands to dtwm from the command line). I made that because I noticed that dtstyle could restart dtwm, but an action to edit .Xdefaults (which was presumably a script calling dtpad) could not. That made me curious enough to reverse-engineer the mechanism. So now you can do from a shell script something like dtwmcmd f.restart -noconfirm That pretty much covers the CDE/Motif related scrounges that I recall, although I might have forgotten one or two. Someone might even want to collect those and preserve them. :-) I wrote a simple MIT-licensed command runner (for binding to Alt-F2) using Motif. It's at http://www.tomsick.net/projects/dtrun.html if anyone wants to use it. -Rob -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ cdesktopenv-devel mailing list cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel
Re: [cdesktopenv-devel] GDE, the GNU Desktop Environment (Was: Re: OS X and Autotools)
On Saturday, November 22, 2014 01:53:01 PM Edmond Orignac wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 07:39:09PM -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote: Em Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:05:53 -0700 (MST) Jon Trulsonj...@radscan.com escreveu: Now CDE is an open source project, but we would *really* like to avoid being forced into a specific license if at all possible - this is why we request MIT licensing. Here we have a problem. In the GNU project we are mainly concerned with user's freedom. As opposed to programmer's freedom. You seem to have appointed yourself as Caudillo of the CDE project and you seem to be lecturing reluctant subordinates about the greatness of your vision. I believed the GNOME project (contrarily to KDE) fitted perfectly the aims of the GNU organization by being based on the non-proprietary toolkit GTK. Moreover, in order to improve the performance of GNOME, the X Window System is being abandoned on Linux in favor of Wayland, while at the same time GNOME is getting tightly integrated in the new systemd replacement for System V init. These changes are going to make CDE and Motif obsolete on the mainstream Linuxes in the coming years. So why this urge to seize control of a project by a small team of programmers that is likely to be useful only for marginal Unix type operating systems: legacy Unices, the BSDs, OpenIndiana, CRUX/Slackware Linux ? This is just one user's opinion (I've made a few small contributions, but nothing serious so I wouldn't count myself as anything more than an interested user) but... I use CDE because it's not trying to be anything other than a legacy desktop updated to work on modern platforms. I don't really care much about how modern it is or whether it serves the needs of a philosophically-driven Linux distro. If I wanted that, I'd use GNOME. I also don't care if it follows the One True Path of GNU, as I'm not a disciple of that particular faith. I do, however, care if it starts sprouting dependencies on GNU software that I don't use. I do care if it becomes another vehicle to promote the (L)GPL to the exclusion of other licenses. I do care if it starts depending on parts of the Linux stack or assumes that one is a Linux user. I don't think that last one is necessarily a concern in what's being proposed, but given the motivation the thought is at least in the back of my mind. Not every project that uses a non-GNU license is a battle that needs to be won for your cause. Sometimes folks just use different licenses. Live and let live. -Rob -- Connection terminated by beer -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ cdesktopenv-devel mailing list cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/cdesktopenv-devel