Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

2009-05-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
 I would like to contribute for Tips  Tricks section with a small
 automated script to install webmin repository data and webmin itself
 from here: 
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20223forum=38post_id=76546#forumpost76546

Okay, go ahead with this one.

 And also I would like to contribute automated RPM forge repository
 installation script:
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20222forum=38post_id=76525#forumpost76525
 after it will be checked by forum users and found to be error-free.

I'm still thinking if this should be put into the RPMForge installation
HowTo and where it will fit there. Any opinions?

 I would like also to have a homepage on centos.org website or a blog
 there to share some solutions, that are not yet ready for official
 Wiki.

http://wiki.centos.org/VladislavRastrusny

Cheers,

Ralph


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[CentOS-docs] Typo on TipsAndTricks/VncHeadlessInstall wiki page

2009-05-13 Thread Timothy Lee
Dear all,

On the TipsAndTricks/VncHeadlessInstall wiki page, the first sentence 
under Download ISO section should be changed from:

The first thing you will need is once if the ISO's from the CentOS
mirrors.

to:

The first thing you will need is one of the ISO's from the CentOS
mirrors.


Regards,
Timothy Lee
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Typo on TipsAndTricks/VncHeadlessInstall wiki page

2009-05-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Timothy Lee wrote:
 The first thing you will need is one of the ISO's from the CentOS

While I was at it, I corrected all ISO's in that text. 

http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif!

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Typo on TipsAndTricks/VncHeadlessInstall wiki page

2009-05-13 Thread Ned Slider
Timothy Lee wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 On the TipsAndTricks/VncHeadlessInstall wiki page, the first sentence 
 under Download ISO section should be changed from:
 
 The first thing you will need is once if the ISO's from the CentOS
 mirrors.
 
 to:
 
 The first thing you will need is one of the ISO's from the CentOS
 mirrors.
 
 

Thanks - updated :-)

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

2009-05-13 Thread Vladislav Rastrusny
Created a draft. Any comments?

Also how Do I create textual links to wiki pages?
[[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo WebMinRepo Description]] and
[[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo|WebMinRepo Description]] don't work.

2009/5/13 Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
  I would like to contribute for Tips  Tricks section with a small
  automated script to install webmin repository data and webmin itself
  from here: 
  http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20223forum=38post_id=76546#forumpost76546

 Okay, go ahead with this one.

 Ummm.

 http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo

 =:)

 Ralph

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
 Created a draft. Any comments?

Please don't top-post.  Would also be good to do a new post with a 
descriptive title like:

Subject: Draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

That would better capture attention than one buried in a long thread.

Will have a look at your page today.

 Also how Do I create textual links to wiki pages?
 [[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo WebMinRepo Description]] and
 [[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo|WebMinRepo Description]] don't work.

It's a bit confusing.  See http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Wiki/Editing 
but note that a relative link starts with / and an absolute link does 
not - seems backwards to me.

So if editing the TipsAndTricks page then a relative link to WebMinRepo 
looks like

[:/WebMinRepo:Description]

and an absolute link looks like

[:TipsAndTricks/WebMinRepo:Description]

Phil
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

2009-05-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
 Created a draft. Any comments?
 
 Also how Do I create textual links to wiki pages?
 [[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo WebMinRepo Description]] and
 [[TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo|WebMinRepo Description]] don't work.

What exactly are you trying to do?

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments? HowTos/CentOS5ConvertToRAID

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Ed Heron wrote:
...

   I think so.  I use rsync to synchronize samba shares and web sites between 
 servers so I've gotten used to using it for other things.  It also looks 
 more like a copy, which might be easier to understand for those less 
 familiar.  I was considering adding the tar option.  How does tar handle 
 hard links?

It just works.  I habitually use rsync for incremental updates across 
directories or systems, but tar is often more robust for this type of 
job, just because of things like needing to remember to use -H. Both 
rsync and cpio will work if used properly, just like tar.  Like I said, 
largely a matter of preference.

...
   Thanks.  Writing documentation is always a balancing act between not 
 putting enough detail in because it seems intuitive to the person who does 
 it every day and putting too much in with the effect of it being too 
 pedantic.

++1

   Do you have a source for round tuits?  I can only find finite sided 
 ones...

They are quite rare and valuable. :-P

Regards,
Phil
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
...
 And also I would like to contribute automated RPM forge repository
 installation script:
 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20222forum=38post_id=76525#forumpost76525
 after it will be checked by forum users and found to be error-free.
 
 I'm still thinking if this should be put into the RPMForge installation
 HowTo and where it will fit there. Any opinions?

My original suggestion to Vladislav was that it could be a subpage 
linked from the RPMForge page.  An alternative might be to put it in 
TipsAndTricks as an example of automating repo configs.  Could still 
link from the RPMforge page but the latter would give it higher visibility.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments? HowTos/CentOS5ConvertToRAID

2009-05-13 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:20:07AM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote:
 Ed Heron wrote:
 ...
Thanks.  Writing documentation is always a balancing act between not 
  putting enough detail in because it seems intuitive to the person who does 
  it every day and putting too much in with the effect of it being too 
  pedantic.

After years of cursing out documentation, I always go with the better
too much than too little information.  

Depending of course, upon what you're documenting, it should allow
someone without experience of the software to use it, and not have to
google to figure out what you meant.  I think of it as being considerate
of the reader's time.

Often, I find the difference between BSD docs and Linux docs, the
difference between something written for the busy sysadmin and something
written for the hobbyist who has all day to go searching around for the
missing pieces.  

(The above of course, is a BROAD generalization, but I try to keep in mind
that the reader probably has better things to do than research something
I wrote, which is, no doubt, something they discovered while trying to
understand something in the official docs.)   :)


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[CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Apropos http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo

Suggested changes (mostly nit-picky :-) ...


Change:

Webmin is a web-based interface ...

to:

[http://www.webmin.com/index.html WebMin] is a web-based interface ...

Change:

When you install WebMin from repository yum keeps an eye on new WebMin 
versions (for example, security-related releases) and when you issue 
yum upgrade you will see if a new WebMin version available.

to:

When [http://www.webmin.com/ WebMin] is installed from a repository, bug 
fixes and security patches can be automated as are other system updates, 
and managed using yum.

Change:

Login to your server as root (you may login as user and then su to root 
if your system is set up this way).

to:

[:TipsAndTricks/BecomingRoot:Become root.]

Change:

Then issue the following command to allow execution of this file by the 
shell:

to:

Make the file executable:

Change:

Ok. WebMin repo and WebMin itself is now installed.

to:

The WebMin repo and application are now installed.


Very nice page.  One of these days I'll get around to actually trying it.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments? HowTos/CentOS5ConvertToRAID

2009-05-13 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 09:02:00AM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
 
 Often, I find the difference between BSD docs and Linux docs, the
 difference between something written for the busy sysadmin and something
 written for the hobbyist who has all day to go searching around for the
 missing pieces.  
 
 (The above of course, is a BROAD generalization, but I try to keep in mind
 that the reader probably has better things to do than research something
 I wrote, which is, no doubt, something they discovered while trying to
 understand something in the official docs.)   :)


I should have specified that I'm not referring to the wiki, which is,
generally speaking, one of those areas where documentation does NOT send
the reader searching all over the place. I was referring more to the man
pages.

Again, it was a generalization--there are plenty of excellent Linux man
pages and obscure BSD man pages. 


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
Phil Schaffner wrote:
 Apropos http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo
 
 Suggested changes (mostly nit-picky :-) ...
 
 

Just  brief look at the page, can do with some grammar checks I think. Also,

1) Have we asked for feedback on that article and perhaps solicit more 
centos specific content from the webmin users.

2) Have we considered building a webmin-release-*-.rpm and asking for 
inclusion in the webmin repo directly ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] OT: Comments? HowTos/CentOS5ConvertToRAID

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Scott Robbins wrote:
...
 Again, it was a generalization--there are plenty of excellent Linux man
 pages and obscure BSD man pages. 

... and virtually all of them are better than MS pages that all too 
frequently end up by advising the admin looking for answers: Ask your 
administrator. :-P

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Phil Schaffner wrote:
 Apropos http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo

 Suggested changes (mostly nit-picky :-) ...

 
 
 Just  brief look at the page, can do with some grammar checks I think. Also,

There were still a few nits I declined to pick, and my grammar is also 
sometimes sub-par.

 1) Have we asked for feedback on that article and perhaps solicit more 
 centos specific content from the webmin users.

The best way to do that is probably to get the release version of the 
page linked in and announce it on the forum.

[Aside: Should there be some kind of release announcement system/list 
for Wiki articles and other documentation?]

 2) Have we considered building a webmin-release-*-.rpm and asking for 
 inclusion in the webmin repo directly ?

Not a WebMin user so I won't jump on that one.  Good idea though, as it 
seems quite popular.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
Phil Schaffner wrote:
 The best way to do that is probably to get the release version of the 
 page linked in and announce it on the forum.

Sounds good.

 [Aside: Should there be some kind of release announcement system/list 
 for Wiki articles and other documentation?]

A 'whats new' section in a block, on the right side of the home-page, 
perhaps push the screenshot up, and put this box in under that ( is one 
option )

 2) Have we considered building a webmin-release-*-.rpm and asking for 
 inclusion in the webmin repo directly ?
 
 Not a WebMin user so I won't jump on that one.  Good idea though, as it 
 seems quite popular.

it is the 'recommended' way to get a .repo file onto a machine, it also 
automagically creates an update patch for the repo configs themselves.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Phil Schaffner wrote:
 [Aside: Should there be some kind of release announcement system/list 
 for Wiki articles and other documentation?]
 
 A 'whats new' section in a block, on the right side of the home-page, 
 perhaps push the screenshot up, and put this box in under that ( is one 
 option )

Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm. 

http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/BlikiSummary should be able to do that,
for the much better version 2 we need to upgrade moin, though.

Or even better:

http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/RecentlyCreatedPages

This will also show created HomePages, but I think we can live with
that.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] OT: Comments? HowTos/CentOS5ConvertToRAID

2009-05-13 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 09:26:39AM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote:
 Scott Robbins wrote:
 ...
  Again, it was a generalization--there are plenty of excellent Linux man
  pages and obscure BSD man pages. 
 
 ... and virtually all of them are better than MS pages that all too 
 frequently end up by advising the admin looking for answers: Ask your 
 administrator. :-P

Actually (I know this sounds trollish, but it really isn't), at least on
the servers, I think MS has the documentation down pretty well. Click
help, type in a few key words, and you get examples and all that good
stuff.

For instance, our MS guy was out and I had to do something, relatively
simple, I forget what it was exactly--something like add a user to a new
group.  Put in a few words, e.g., add user group and there was a step by
step.

Can you imagine if I'd been out and he'd had to add a user to a samba
group?  He would have probably been told go to www.samba.org.  :)

It is something simple, and something that I could have walked him
through quickly, but not intuitive.  

At any rate, not to compare and start wars, (which is, of course, what
I've just done--though hopefully, no wars), the original point is that I
do prefer detailed documentation.  

As you say though, it's a fine line--but often, the beginner's article
will be very helpful to the next beginner, because, as is said, what we
consider intuitive is simply what we're so used to doing. 

Of course, 

plz hlp me, my wireless isnt working does simply deserve a pointer to
asking questions the smart way.  :)



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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Karanbir Singh wrote:
  Phil Schaffner wrote:
  [Aside: Should there be some kind of release announcement system/list 
  for Wiki articles and other documentation?]
  
  A 'whats new' section in a block, on the right side of the home-page, 
  perhaps push the screenshot up, and put this box in under that ( is one 
  option )

 http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/RecentlyCreatedPages
 
 This will also show created HomePages, but I think we can live with
 that.

Check http://wiki.centos.org/RalphAngenendt/recent

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Check http://wiki.centos.org/RalphAngenendt/recent

Looks good to me, I wonder if its possible to somehow only list pages 
which have some criteria. So as to not list pages that are considered 
'under construction' or temp pages that people might create in their 
homepage/blah.

If we could, that would be cool.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  Check http://wiki.centos.org/RalphAngenendt/recent
 
 Looks good to me, I wonder if its possible to somehow only list pages 
 which have some criteria. So as to not list pages that are considered 
 'under construction' 

The macro does not read the pages, so I don't think it really is
possible to do that. I think it is better to cleanly mark pages as
under construction or put those in a sandbox like
wiki.centos.org/UnderConstruction/FooBar. The latter could make it
possible to not show those pages.

 or temp pages that people might create in their 
 homepage/blah.

Hmmm. If those would live in their own namespace ...

But then you probably cannot reference them with FirstnameLastname
anymore anywhere on the wiki, which would break standard behaviour on
some functions like lastchanged.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Vladislav Rastrusny
Applied your fixes, thanks a lot!

2009/5/13 Phil Schaffner philip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov:
 Apropos http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo

 Suggested changes (mostly nit-picky :-) ...

 
 Change:

 Webmin is a web-based interface ...

 to:

 [http://www.webmin.com/index.html WebMin] is a web-based interface ...
 
 Change:

 When you install WebMin from repository yum keeps an eye on new WebMin
 versions (for example, security-related releases) and when you issue
 yum upgrade you will see if a new WebMin version available.

 to:

 When [http://www.webmin.com/ WebMin] is installed from a repository, bug
 fixes and security patches can be automated as are other system updates,
 and managed using yum.
 
 Change:

 Login to your server as root (you may login as user and then su to root
 if your system is set up this way).

 to:

 [:TipsAndTricks/BecomingRoot:Become root.]
 
 Change:

 Then issue the following command to allow execution of this file by the
 shell:

 to:

 Make the file executable:
 
 Change:

 Ok. WebMin repo and WebMin itself is now installed.

 to:

 The WebMin repo and application are now installed.
 

 Very nice page.  One of these days I'll get around to actually trying it.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments? HowTos/CentOS5ConvertToRAID

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Heron
From: Phil Schaffner, Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:20 AM

 It just works.  I habitually use rsync for incremental updates across
 directories or systems, but tar is often more robust for this type of
 job, just because of things like needing to remember to use -H. Both
 rsync and cpio will work if used properly, just like tar.  Like I said,
 largely a matter of preference.

  I read somewhere that tar doesn't save extended attributes.  Is this still 
the case or did I read old news?

  Should we submit a bug report somewhere for rsync not correctly copying 
SELinux attributes?  Or is it some mistake of mine that it didn't appear to 
work?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments? HowTos/CentOS5ConvertToRAID

2009-05-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ed Heron wrote:
 From: Phil Schaffner, Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:20 AM
 
  It just works.  I habitually use rsync for incremental updates across
  directories or systems, but tar is often more robust for this type of
  job, just because of things like needing to remember to use -H. Both
  rsync and cpio will work if used properly, just like tar.  Like I said,
  largely a matter of preference.
 
   I read somewhere that tar doesn't save extended attributes.  Is this still 
 the case or did I read old news?

   --xattrs
  this  option  causes  tar  to  store  each   file’s   extended
  attributes  in  the  archive.  This option also enables --acls
  and--selinux if they haven’t been set already, due to the fact
  that the data for those are stored in special xattrs.


   Should we submit a bug report somewhere for rsync not correctly copying 
 SELinux attributes?  Or is it some mistake of mine that it didn't appear to 
 work?

What happens when you set --xattrs in rsync, too? Their manual page does 
not mention SELinux, though.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments? HowTos/CentOS5ConvertToRAID

2009-05-13 Thread Ed Heron
From: Ralph Angenendt, Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:42 AM

What happens when you set --xattrs in rsync, too? Their manual page does
not mention SELinux, though.

  That's the X that I added to the rsync command.  It does not successfully 
copy SELinux attributes.  That's why I had to set the relabel flag.

  I'll have to try the process again with the --xattrs in tar and see if the 
system is functional without re-labeling.

  Thanks.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

2009-05-13 Thread JohnS

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 11:29 -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
 On Tue, 12 May 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 
  Okay. I'm waiting for comments here - php as a scripting language?
  Strange :)
 
 not at all -- have used it for years; did a LUG presentation 
 as well.  It can live well in the inittab and run as a daemon 
 process for very rapid prototyping.
   http://www.colug.net/notes/0208mtg/
 
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One thing that en lighted me about it was the use of it in Free NAS the
BSD based fileserver.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribute request

2009-05-13 Thread JohnS

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 15:28 +0400, Vladislav Rastrusny wrote:
  I hate Webmin period. I like the scripted install though.
 Period? What period? Education period? :) I think that depends on the
 admin. Some like GUI tools, some don't. If I can do something faster
 with GUI, I'll do that with GUI. I think command-liners and GUI
 lovers are two opposite sides in the the-best-admin-way
 confrontation ;)
---
I think the reason I dislike it so much is because I had to learn the
hard way. As in from the command line. You will never learn anything by
using a GUI. In fact some things can not be done by GUI. Although if
linux based GUIs worked wonders like M$ then I would have a different
train of thought on it but it's not the Linux/Unix Administration way.

I myself had no choice it just got dropped on me and I was told, learn
it or have no job.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Comments on draft TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo page

2009-05-13 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Ralph.

 Also I wonder why you don't just offer a signed RPM package with the
 repo description or alternatively just a repo file for download. Maybe
 you could get in contact with Jamie Cameron to do so.

 Implicitly the CentOS project watched and approves the content
 in the wiki (compare contra the open access mailing lists and
 forums).

 Are we as a project willing to let links proliferate thru the
 wiki at large to random non-CentOS controlled respository
 content [not 'penned in and watched' as in the Repositories
 page], and to be so outlinked, with a seeming imprimatur of
 being a signed package?

 I am not.

That's true. I would just add a lik to the repositories page, instead.
Imho there is no need for a separate installation description like
that.

Best Regards
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Re: [CentOS-es] Superado el límite de fichero.

2009-05-13 Thread Monica BM

Pues vas a tener razón...por que lo estoy haciendo sobre la partición 
windows...jajajajaja

que despiste tengo a veces, pues nada luego cuando pueda lo pruebo!!

muchisimas gracias!!!



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Enviado: martes, 12 de mayo, 2009 19:41:53
Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] Superado el límite de fichero.

2009/5/12 Monica BM monica...@yahoo.es:
 Buenas a todos!!!

 yo como siempre con mis lios!!!

 Os comento...tengo unas máquians de virtualbox comprimidas en unos ficheros
 tar.gz

 Pues los voy a descomprimir con el siguiente comando:

 tar -xvzf maquina.tar.gz

 Cuando derrepente me dice.

 Superado el límite de tamaño de fichero.

 Si..el fichero descomprimido supera los 4 Gb.pero yo juraría que antes
 no me decía eso y en otras máquinas con el mismo SO instalado tampoco.

Puede ser que estés descomprimiendo sobre un sistema de archivos
basado en FAT? Puede ser el caso si estás sobre un share de Windows
montado con smbclient. Quizás sobre un pendrive?
Si es así prueba a pararte sobre otro disco y repite la misma acción.


 Y nada, que quiero descomprimirlo y no se el modo.

 He estado buscando y no encuentro nada de nadaasi que si me echáis una
 manilla os lo agradecería!!

 saludotes a todos!!!

 pd: en modo gráfico también lo he intentado y me da el mismo error, a los 4
 GB se para.


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Re: [CentOS-es] Mejor alternativa para virtualizació n Xen o OpenVZ

2009-05-13 Thread Sergio
Perdona mi ignorancia, pero que diferencia existe entre instalar el
XenServer e instalar el paquete xen-3.1.1.tar.gz
(http://www.xen.org/download/)

 

A lo mejor he dicho una barbaridad…… ;)

 

Más porque he visto este video de funcionamiento del XenServer y es igual al
VMWare ESXi con la diferencia que XenServer da mas funcionalidad.

http://www.xenserver5.com/videos/Getting_Started_with_XenServer/Getting_Star
ted_with_XenServer.htm

 

Desde ya, gracias por todo.

Saludos.

 

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De: centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] En
nombre de Victor Padro
Enviado el: miércoles, 13 de mayo de 2009 12:23
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es]Mejor alternativa para virtualización Xen o OpenVZ

 

 

2009/5/13 Sergio listas-li...@cherrytel.com

Gracias por vuestras respuestas, la verdad que tengo un montón de
información.

 

Lo único que he probado es ESXi y funciona bastante bien.

 

La verdad que no tengo claro cual elegir, pero Xen o OpenVz.

 

KVM no lo conocia.

 

Gracias por todo.

Saludos.

 

 

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nombre de Guille
Enviado el: miércoles, 13 de mayo de 2009 4:41


Para: centos-es@centos.org
Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es]Mejor alternativa para virtualización Xen o OpenVZ

 

 

El 12 de mayo de 2009 17:34, Victor Padro vpa...@gmail.com escribió:

 

2009/5/12 Jose Omancio Lopez jolo...@pronasa.com.co

 

Donde consigo información para configurar un cliente vpn con pptp  en centos
5.4

 

De: centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] En
nombre de Victor Padro
Enviado el: Martes, 12 de Mayo de 2009 02:29 p.m.
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] Mejor alternativa para virtualización Xen o OpenVZ

 

 

2009/5/12 Lic. Domingo Varela Yahuitl domin...@linuxsc.net

Te comento muy a mi punto personal, que tengo en Puebla (Mex), san diego
california  (USA) y tijuana(Mex) una serie de servidores con XEN usando
Centos y las maquinas virtuales son Linux, windows 2008 (Trial), w2k3 y
estan funcionando de maravilla, no tengo problemas con ello ...

 

nunca he usado OpenVZ y ni mucho menos vwmare por falta de  $$$

 

 

On Tue, 12 May 2009 13:00:12 +0200, Sergio listas-li...@cherrytel.com
wrote:

Hola a todos, 

 

 

Vamos a empezar a trabajar con virtualización para activar maquinas VPS, me
gustaría saber cual software me recomendáis para ello, Xen, OpenVZ o Vmware.


 

 

Sobre todo por documentación, configuración, copias de seguridad, etc. Las
máquinas virtuales que puedo crear Linux y Windows. 

 

 

Se habla mucho de Xen, pero me gustaría saber vuestras opiniones. 

 

 

Gracias por todo. 

 

Saludos. 

 

 

 

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OpenVZ es solo para ambientes Linux, creo que tambien hay para FreeBSD y usa
virtualizacion a nivel de sistema operativo.

Virtuozzo es la version comercial de OpenVZ, esta si tiene soporte para
Linux y Windows, usa virtualizacion a nivel de sistema operativo,
paravirtualizacion y virtualizacion por hardware.

Bajo Xen puedes crear/manipular/correr maquinas virtuales en ambiente
Windows, Linux y algunos FreeBSD, usa paravirtualizacion y virtualizacion
por hardware.

En VMware Server/Workstation/ESXi puedes correr maquinas virtuales con
ambientes Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, OS/2, Netware, etc. usa emulacion,
paravirtualizacion y virtualizacion de hardware.

Existe otra tecnologia llamada KVM, en ella puedes crear/correr/manipular
ambientes Windows, Linux y FreeBSD, esta usa virtualizacion a nivel de
hardware.

La paravirtualizacion funciona casi en cualquier hardware, desde un Pentium
III a 1Ghz hasta un Xeon Quad Core.

La virtualizacion a nivel de hardware funciona solo tecnologias AMD-V y
Intel-VT, estas vienen en la mayoria de los procesadores de ultima
generacion como Athlon X2, Phenom x3, x4, Opteron Dual Core y Quad Core,
Intel Core 2 Duo, Intel Quad Core, Xeon Dual Core y Quad Core, Intel Core
i7.

Lo 

Re: [CentOS-es] Mejor alternativa para virtualizació n Xen o OpenVZ

2009-05-13 Thread Victor Padro
2009/5/13 Sergio listas-li...@cherrytel.com

  Perdona mi ignorancia, pero que diferencia existe entre instalar el
 XenServer e instalar el paquete xen-3.1.1.tar.gz (
 http://www.xen.org/download/)



 A lo mejor he dicho una barbaridad…… ;)



 Más porque he visto este video de funcionamiento del XenServer y es igual
 al VMWare ESXi con la diferencia que XenServer da mas funcionalidad.


 http://www.xenserver5.com/videos/Getting_Started_with_XenServer/Getting_Started_with_XenServer.htm



 Desde ya, gracias por todo.

 Saludos.


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 OpenVZ





 2009/5/13 Sergio listas-li...@cherrytel.com

 Gracias por vuestras respuestas, la verdad que tengo un montón de
 información.



 Lo único que he probado es ESXi y funciona bastante bien.



 La verdad que no tengo claro cual elegir, pero Xen o OpenVz.



 KVM no lo conocia.



 Gracias por todo.

 Saludos.




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 El 12 de mayo de 2009 17:34, Victor Padro vpa...@gmail.com escribió:



 2009/5/12 Jose Omancio Lopez jolo...@pronasa.com.co



 Donde consigo información para configurar un cliente vpn con pptp  en
 centos 5.4



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 OpenVZ





 2009/5/12 Lic. Domingo Varela Yahuitl domin...@linuxsc.net

 Te comento muy a mi punto personal, que tengo en Puebla (Mex), san diego
 california  (USA) y tijuana(Mex) una serie de servidores con XEN usando
 Centos y las maquinas virtuales son Linux, windows 2008 (Trial), w2k3 y
 estan funcionando de maravilla, no tengo problemas con ello ...



 nunca he usado OpenVZ y ni mucho menos vwmare por falta de  $$$





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   Hola a todos,





 Vamos a empezar a trabajar con virtualización para activar maquinas VPS, me
 gustaría saber cual software me recomendáis para ello, Xen, OpenVZ o Vmware.






 Sobre todo por documentación, configuración, copias de seguridad, etc. Las
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 Se habla mucho de Xen, pero me gustaría saber vuestras opiniones.





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 usa virtualizacion a nivel de sistema operativo.

 Virtuozzo es la version comercial de OpenVZ, esta si tiene soporte para
 Linux y Windows, usa virtualizacion a nivel de sistema operativo,
 paravirtualizacion y virtualizacion por hardware.

 Bajo Xen puedes crear/manipular/correr maquinas virtuales en ambiente
 Windows, Linux y algunos FreeBSD, usa paravirtualizacion y virtualizacion
 por hardware.

 En VMware Server/Workstation/ESXi puedes correr maquinas virtuales con
 ambientes Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, OS/2, Netware, etc. usa emulacion,
 paravirtualizacion y virtualizacion de hardware.

 Existe otra tecnologia llamada KVM, en ella puedes crear/correr/manipular
 ambientes Windows, Linux y FreeBSD, esta usa virtualizacion a nivel de
 hardware.

 La paravirtualizacion funciona casi en cualquier hardware, desde un Pentium
 III a 1Ghz hasta un Xeon Quad Core.

 La virtualizacion a nivel de hardware funciona solo tecnologias AMD-V y
 Intel-VT, estas vienen en la mayoria de los procesadores de 

[CentOS-es] SMTP Gateway

2009-05-13 Thread Victor Ramirez
Hola buenos dias,

Necesito nuevamente de su apoyo sobre una consulta, en mi trabajo manejamos
un servidor smtp gateway para el envio de correos y la aplicacion se llama
Mail Marsahall no se si alguien la conoce esta aplicacion es pagada pero
debido a cuestiones presupuestales y por que yo lo quiero migrar a
linux quiero preguntales que puedo usar para hacer esta funcion o si hay
alguna aplicacion que me permitar hacer esto.

Lo que en verdad busco es que esta aplicacion tiene una consola en donde
facilmente me permite ver quien mando que y a quien y se detuvo el por que
lo detuvo.

Espero no pedir mucho.
Gracias como siempre por la ayuda.

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Re: [CentOS-es] SMTP Gateway

2009-05-13 Thread Sebastián Veloso Varas
Hola Victor,

Yo he implementado MailScanner (Antispam + Antivirus) + Mailwatch (visor y
logueo web de correos) y anda bastante bien. Puedes tener una estadistica de
quien envia/recibe, cuarentena, listas negras/blancas, manejo de colas,etc.

Saludos,

Sebastian Veloso

El 13 de mayo de 2009 11:21, Victor Ramirez victorr...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola buenos dias,

 Necesito nuevamente de su apoyo sobre una consulta, en mi trabajo manejamos
 un servidor smtp gateway para el envio de correos y la aplicacion se llama
 Mail Marsahall no se si alguien la conoce esta aplicacion es pagada pero
 debido a cuestiones presupuestales y por que yo lo quiero migrar a
 linux quiero preguntales que puedo usar para hacer esta funcion o si hay
 alguna aplicacion que me permitar hacer esto.

 Lo que en verdad busco es que esta aplicacion tiene una consola en donde
 facilmente me permite ver quien mando que y a quien y se detuvo el por que
 lo detuvo.

 Espero no pedir mucho.
 Gracias como siempre por la ayuda.

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Re: [CentOS-es] SMTP Gateway

2009-05-13 Thread Sebastián Veloso Varas
Victor,

Habia mencionado MailScanner y no Mailcleaner /o habrá sido un error
involuntario ;)/. Respecto a si necesitas q sea SMTP gateway, si es posible,
pero deberas hacer unas modificaciones a Postfix o Sendmail para
configurarlo como reenviador y saneador.
Using Postfix for Secure SMTP Gateways
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4241
*SMTP Gateway for Multiple Domain Email Gateway with Postfix
*
http://www.knowplace.org/pages/howtos/smtp_gateway_for_multiple_domains_with_postfix.php
Tips en Sendmail
http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html
http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying

Saludos,

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El 13 de mayo de 2009 11:39, Victor Ramirez victorr...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola Gracias por responder.

 Justamente estoy leyendo las caracteristicas de MailCleanner solo que veo
 que tengo una duda este lo puedo confiurar como solo SMTP por que voeo que
 es bastante robusto, el filtro que tengo de salida es un equipo Fortinet que
 esta de maravilla y no quiero tocar esa parte.

 Gracias por la respuesta

 El 13 de mayo de 2009 10:24, Sebastián Veloso Varas 
 svel...@sevelv.clescribió:

 Hola Victor,

 Yo he implementado MailScanner (Antispam + Antivirus) + Mailwatch (visor y
 logueo web de correos) y anda bastante bien. Puedes tener una estadistica de
 quien envia/recibe, cuarentena, listas negras/blancas, manejo de colas,etc.

 Saludos,

 Sebastian Veloso

 El 13 de mayo de 2009 11:21, Victor Ramirez victorr...@gmail.comescribió:

   Hola buenos dias,

 Necesito nuevamente de su apoyo sobre una consulta, en mi trabajo
 manejamos un servidor smtp gateway para el envio de correos y la aplicacion
 se llama Mail Marsahall no se si alguien la conoce esta aplicacion es pagada
 pero debido a cuestiones presupuestales y por que yo lo quiero migrar a
 linux quiero preguntales que puedo usar para hacer esta funcion o si hay
 alguna aplicacion que me permitar hacer esto.

 Lo que en verdad busco es que esta aplicacion tiene una consola en donde
 facilmente me permite ver quien mando que y a quien y se detuvo el por que
 lo detuvo.

 Espero no pedir mucho.
 Gracias como siempre por la ayuda.

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[CentOS-es] Propuestas para tema de tesis

2009-05-13 Thread Jorge Herrera
Estoy cursando el último semestre de la carrera de Ingeniería Electrónica, y 
desearía conocer algunas propuestas de que necesidades existen entorno al campo 
de las redes relacionado con GNU-LINUX para plantear mi tema de tesis. 
Cualquier idea será bienvenida.

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[CentOS-es] Sobre particiones EXT4

2009-05-13 Thread Yoinier Hernandez Nieves



  Hola lista, tengo un problema que considero urgente.

  Me habia instalado en la PC de mi trabajo Fedora11 Preview, y  
convertí la particion /home a ext4, y luego puse todos mis datos en  
ella, ahora cuando instalo centos 5.3 nuevamente, me indican que use  
ext4dev, pero cuando lo intento hacer, me devuelve un error, que no  
resulto ok para los test, mas menos es ese el error.


  Alguien conoce como poder resolver este problema, sin perder los  
datos. ya que con dd cree una imagen con la particion, para luego  
montarla y recuperar los datos.


  Como puedo proceder???
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Re: [CentOS-es] Propuestas para tema de tesis

2009-05-13 Thread Raul Eduardo Arboleda Zapata
Pues cuando yo estube en las mismas que tu hace algun tiempo, se me ocurrieron 
varias.

La que desarrolle fue el montaje de un servidor con correo, control de salida e 
ingreso a internet, Impresion, firewall basico,  proxy, etc.

Otro que me pidieron fue firewall con deteccion de inrusos.  Este no tube 
tiempo de desarrollarlo.

La premisa principal era montaje de servido linux y aplicativos de dominio 
publico o libres.

Espero te sirba de algo

saludos

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 Estoy cursando el último semestre de la carrera de Ingeniería 
 Electrónica, y desearía conocer algunas propuestas de que necesidades 
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Re: [CentOS-es] Propuestas para tema de tesis

2009-05-13 Thread Victor Padro
2009/5/13 Jorge Herrera jorge20...@yahoo.es

 Estoy cursando el último semestre de la carrera de Ingeniería Electrónica,
 y desearía conocer algunas propuestas de que necesidades existen entorno al
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[CentOS] rpmbuild date shift

2009-05-13 Thread David Hrbáč
Hi,
I'd like to ask if anyone's experiencing date shift with rpmbuild/mock
on C5. I see +1 day date shift within changelog. Checked with
mock-0.9.14-3.el5.hrb and mock-0.6.13-1.el5_2.3.
Regards,
David Hrbáč

Source rpm:
[mockbu...@builder2 ~]$ rpm -qp --changelog
repoview-0.6.4-1.el4.hrb.src.rpm | less
* Wed May 13 2009 David Hrbáč da...@hrbac.cz - 0.6.3-1
- new upstream version
- added requirements

* Wed May 13 2009 David Hrbáč da...@hrbac.cz - 0.6.3-1
- new upstream version


Source rpm after rebuild:
[mockbu...@builder2 ~]$ rpm -qp --changelog
/var/lib/mock/epel-5-i386/result/repoview-0.6.4-1.el5.src.rpm | less
* Thu May 14 2009 David Hrbáč da...@hrbac.cz - 0.6.3-1
- new upstream version
- added requirements

* Thu May 14 2009 David Hrbáč da...@hrbac.cz - 0.6.3-1
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Re: [CentOS] SOLVED: LVM, SATA controllers and BIOS devices

2009-05-13 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 16:19 -0500, Chris Boyd wrote:
 On May 12, 2009, at 12:32 PM, William L. Maltby wrote:
 
  IMO, yes (maybe). When the Initial install is done, I think there is
  some stuff that is needed in the initrd to find the disk so root can  
  be
  mounted. I'm not sure which initrd file contains it, but I think it's
  got to be there somewhere. There are some more considerations I had
  forgotten.
 
 Thanks, this gave the the hint I needed.
 
 Looking at the original modprobe.conf file, there was no entry in it  
 for the driver for the second SATA controller.
 
 So to recover I booted the install CD in linux rescue mode.
 
 Ran chroot /mnt/sysimage
 
 I added
 
 alias scsi_hostadapter1 sata_promise
 
 to /etc/modprobe.conf
 
 Changed to the /boot directory
 
 mv initrd-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.img initrd-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.old
 
 mkinitrd initrd-2.6.18-128.1.6.el5.img 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5
 
 After that completed, I rebooted and the system came up clean--no fsck  
 requested or any other oddities, system-config-lvm seems to be working  
 fine.
 
 No mucking about in /etc/fstab was needed.

Glad all worked out. I now remember why I had to do fstab. I had some
duplicated backups on the hard drives that would be used if the primary
drive failed. During testing booting from the second drive, I needed
VolGroup00 to be VolGroupAA and other similar changes. This is what also
required changes in the init file in the initrd. There is an
--ignorelockingfailure imperitive that references the real root. For
fallback testing, it needed to reference the fallback (VolGroupAA)
volume.

 
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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 17:50 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote:
 nate wrote:
  Scott Silva wrote:
  
  But if you only have read access to the original file, can you overwrite 
  it?
  
  If you have write access to the directory yes you should be able
  to, if you only have read access to the directory I would expect
  not.
 
 Technically, that's not overwriting.  That's removing the original and
 replacing it with another file with the same name.  That difference
 would be significant if there where other hard links to the original
 file.

Yes. When moving the new file to the old, you are really doing an unlink
and link sequence. With write permission in the directory, this is
valid. You are controlled by the directory's user/group and permissions,
not the target file's.

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Re: [CentOS] rpmbuild date shift

2009-05-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
David Hrbáč wrote:
 Hi,
 I'd like to ask if anyone's experiencing date shift with rpmbuild/mock
 on C5. I see +1 day date shift within changelog. Checked with
 mock-0.9.14-3.el5.hrb and mock-0.6.13-1.el5_2.3.

Yes, I'm seeing that too:

[angen...@shutdown rpms]$rpm -qp --changelog 
drbd82-8.2.7.git_20090512-1.el4.br.src.rpm |head -8
* Thu May 14 2009 Ralph Angenendt ra...@centos.org
- move version to current 8.2 git version as 8.2.7 release has an 
  error in online verification. See
  http://lists.linbit.com/pipermail/drbd-user/2009-May/012019.html
  for an explanation.

* Tue May 05 2009 Ralph Angenendt ra...@centos.org drbd82-8.2.7-1
- upgraded to upstream version 8.2.7
[angen...@shutdown rpms]$

Original has May 13th and May 4th in the changelog.

[angen...@shutdown result]$mock -r centos-4-i386 shell
init
mock-chroot date
Wed May 13 07:10:06 EDT 2009
mock-chroot

Even if that is changed to UTC, it still is May 13th (and it doesn't explain
why subsequent changelog entries are one day off, too.

Ralph


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[CentOS] Shell Script Pointers?

2009-05-13 Thread James Bensley
Hey Listee's

I am trying to write a shell script to sort and compare my blacklist
for squidGuard with the nightly updates that come down in a tar ball.
It should be rather simple but I'm not to grate at this. The script is
to run nightly, it will download the latest blacklist tarball, un tar
it and then add any new entries to the existing black list. The
blacklists work by having a folder for each filtered category so the
folder db contains the subfolders adult, gambling, drugs etc
and each sub folder has two files, domains and urls (pretty self
explanitory). This is how far I have gotten (I haven't tested this
script yet as I haven't had a chance I have only gotten as far as
writting it, this is what I have so far:


#!/bin/bash
#This will be running from home directory

wget http://www.blacklistsite.com/blacklist.tar
tar -cxf blacklist.tar
cd BL

find ./ -type d -maxdepth 1 | while read FOLDER; do
SQUIDDB=usr/local/squidGuard/db/$FOLDER
sort_db($SQUIDDB)
comm -3 $SQUIDDB/domains $FOLDER/domains  $SQUIDDB/domains.missing
comm -3 $SQUIDDB/urls $FOLDER/urls  $SQUIDDB/urls.missing
cat $SQUIDDB/domains.missing  $SQUIDDB/domains
cat $SQUIDDB/urls.missing  $SQUIDDB/urls
rm $SQUIDDB/domains.missing
rm $SQUIDDB/urls.missing
sort_db($SQUIDDB)
done

sort_db(){
sort -f $1/domains  $1/domains.sorted
sort -f $1/urls  $1/urls.sorted
rm $1/domains
rm $1/urls
mv $1/doamins.sorted $1/domains
mv $1/urls.sorted $1/urls
}

Is it obvious I'm new to this? Hehe, I would also love to hear how
people would do this in a more efficient manner because obvisouly this
is pretty sloppy and as I said I haven't tested it yet so it might not
even run?!

Thanks, James ;)

-BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-
  Version: 3.1
GIT/MU/U dpu s: a-- C++$ U+ L++ B- P+ E? W+++$ N K W++ O M++$ V-
PS+++ PE++ Y+ PGP t 5 X+ R- tv+ b+ DI D+++ G+ e(+) h--(++) r++ z++
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Re: [CentOS] rpmbuild date shift

2009-05-13 Thread David Hrbáč
Ralph Angenendt napsal(a):
 Yes, I'm seeing that too:
 
 Even if that is changed to UTC, it still is May 13th (and it doesn't explain
 why subsequent changelog entries are one day off, too.
 
 Ralph

Thanks Ralph. Yes, it has nothing to do with time zone. I'm not sure if
I've seen it before last rpmbuild update.
DH
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Re: [CentOS] Calendar server

2009-05-13 Thread Max Hetrick
Scott Silva wrote:

 As for IMAP access, Horde is fine. It will also work with other backends like
 Kolab if you so choose. I also didn't want to use Zimbra because I run my own
 spam and virus scanning, and I didn't want to downgrade to what Zimbra
 thinks works. And Horde has been around for a long time, and seems to stay
 current. The devels are very active, and patches come out regularly.

Have you guys had any security issues with Horde at all running on an 
outside world server? I'm reading their security tips now, but wanted 
any opinions on experiences.

Thanks,
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[CentOS] [Fwd: Re: How to generate a .template and .jigdo from an iso image?]

2009-05-13 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia

Hi Ralph

I received this e-mail from Fedora Infrastructure list. My problem at 
that moment was a proper syntax for the jigdo-file command.


Using the their script as reference, I made a simpler one to test the 
command[1]. And it's working:

newt (Linux) $pwd; ls -l *.jigdo *.template
/users/newt2/mgarcia/iso/dvd
-rw-r--r-- 1 mgarcia slocate214226 May 13 13:44 
CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.jigdo
-rw-r--r-- 1 mgarcia slocate 196853099 May 13 13:44 
CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.template

newt (Linux) $

I copy all the files in CentOS directory of the image to the directory 
/users/newt2/mgarcia/iso/os, so I could export as NFS.


I don't know if there is a better way to test, but what I did was to 
create a centos.conf in /etc/httpd/conf.d[2]. Then in the machine called 
prost, issued the command:

[r...@prost ~]# jigdo-lite http://newt/centos/CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.jigdo

Jigsaw Download lite
Copyright (C) 2001-2005  |  jigdo@
Richard Atterer  |  atterer.net
(...)

Regards

mg.



[1]
*=*
#!/bin/sh

ISO_DIR=/newt2/mgarcia/iso/dvd/CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso
ARCH=i386

jigdo-file make-template \
  --image=${ISO_DIR} \
  /users/newt2/mgarcia/iso/os \
  --label Base-${ARCH}=/users/newt2/mgarcia/iso/os \
  --uri Base-${ARCH}=http://mirror.centos.org/centos-5/5/os/i386; \
  --force
*=*

[2]
Alias /centos /users/newt2/mgarcia/iso/dvd/

Directory /users/newt2/mgarcia/iso/dvd/
  Options None
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all
/Directory


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: How to generate a .template and .jigdo from an iso image?
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 15:22:27 +0200
From: Jeroen van Meeuwen kana...@kanarip.com
Reply-To: Fedora Infrastructure fedora-infrastructure-l...@redhat.com
To: Fedora Infrastructure fedora-infrastructure-l...@redhat.com
References: 4a034bea.4000...@googlemail.com 
1241740929.12122.349.ca...@ignacio.lan	4a03d29d.7060...@googlemail.com


On 05/08/2009 08:35 AM, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:

Hi

I read the man page. It says that I have to specify only one of the
options -i, -j or -t. OK. If I use only -i, my template has the
same size of image, then there is no point in using jigdo. There must be
something more.

My question is how Fedora generates the .template with only 11.1M? The
command jigdo-file -i CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso it's not enough.



Attached is the script Fedora Unity uses to jigdofy it's Re-Spins. Note
the function jigdofy() in the top that may just help you get the
syntax right.

Note the double slash in the two directories passed to the jigdo-file
make-template command, which functions as a delimiter for jigdo-file,
so that in the --label parameter, we can 'label' the path and then
attach a URI (--uri) to be used in the resulting .jigdo file instead.

$1 is the (fully qualified) path to the .iso image,
$2 is the base architecture for the .iso image (i386, x86_64 or ppc in
our case), and
${version} is the Fedora $releasever (9 or 10 right now).

Also note that /data/os/distr/fedora is a local, full mirror and that
/data/os/archive/fedora is a local, full archive (with package files
that have been removed from the mirror because for example they've
expired and have been superseeded by another update to said package).

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip



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Re: [CentOS] [Fwd: Re: How to generate a .template and .jigdo from an iso image?]

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Schaffner
Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
 Hi Ralph
...
 
 I don't know if there is a better way to test, but what I did was to 
 create a centos.conf in /etc/httpd/conf.d[2]. Then in the machine called 
 prost, issued the command:
 [r...@prost ~]# jigdo-lite http://newt/centos/CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.jigdo

The ultimate test of a jigdo image is a matching md5sum or sha1sum.

This recent centos-devel thread may be of interest.

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2009-May/004548.html
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Re: [CentOS] 5.3 and XFS

2009-05-13 Thread Geoff Galitz



 
 xfs kmod's for centos-5 have so far been done within the centos loop,
 but this is interesting - looks like 5.4 might have a tech-preview for
 xfs included in.

FWIW, at FOSDEM 2009 Ted T'so said that he anticipated official XFS support
from Redhat in the near future as they recently hired some experienced XFS
engineers. 

It was not an official announcement of any kind, he was just speculating
during a presentation on ext4. It's all just speculation until we see the
goods, of course.

-geoff



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Re: [CentOS] [Fwd: Re: How to generate a .template and .jigdo from an iso image?]

2009-05-13 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Phil Schaffner wrote:
 Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
 Hi Ralph
 ...
 I don't know if there is a better way to test, but what I did was to 
 create a centos.conf in /etc/httpd/conf.d[2]. Then in the machine called 
 prost, issued the command:
 [r...@prost ~]# jigdo-lite http://newt/centos/CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.jigdo
 
 The ultimate test of a jigdo image is a matching md5sum or sha1sum.
 
 This recent centos-devel thread may be of interest.
 
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2009-May/004548.html
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Hi Phil

The md5sum and the sha1sum matches[1]. The resulting .template file has 
188M, not as good as Fedora (11.1M), but better than 3.3G of the DVD.

You can notice that my md5sum is different from the DVD in web sites, I 
image that this is because I build the DVD from the CDs[2]. I don't know 
if this is a problem. My goal was just to test jigdo-file for now.

Regards

mg.

[1]
efb8212d4e45072ecfd6e409fec4582a  CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso (original)
efb8212d4e45072ecfd6e409fec4582a  CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso (jigdo)

4d7f8ba97a028a5244a15bc553d08124f746f6f0  CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso 
(original)
4d7f8ba97a028a5244a15bc553d08124f746f6f0  CentOS-5.3-i386-bin-DVD.iso 
(jigdo)

[2]
http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/CDtoDVDMedia
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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread mcclnx mcc

we plan to count how many files belong to that group.  For example HR or 
Finance.



--- 09/5/12 (二),Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com 寫道:

 寄件者: Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com
 主旨: Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?
 收件者: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 日期: 2009年5月12日,二,下午3:13
 2009/5/12 mcclnx mcc mcc...@yahoo.com.tw:
  Does anyone know how no-owner can change file group
 name?
 
 I believe that is not possible.
 
 What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
 
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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread mcclnx mcc

I don't think that is true:  (my login ID are member of DBA and OINSTALL group)

$ ls -al
total 13936
drwxrwxrwt   8 root   root4096 May 13 04:02 .
drwxr-xr-x  32 root   root4096 Feb 11 15:36 ..
-rwxrwxr--   1 oracle dba9 May 11 20:50 aabb

$ chgrp oinstall aabb
chgrp: changing group of `aabb': Operation not permitted



--- 09/5/12 (二),nate cen...@linuxpowered.net 寫道:

 寄件者: nate cen...@linuxpowered.net
 主旨: Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?
 收件者: centos@centos.org
 日期: 2009年5月12日,二,下午5:49
 Scott Silva wrote:
 
  But if you only have read access to the original file,
 can you overwrite it?
 
 If you have write access to the directory yes you should be
 able
 to, if you only have read access to the directory I would
 expect
 not.
 
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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread mcclnx mcc

I don't think that is true:  (my login ID are member of DBA and OINSTALL group)

$ ls -al
total 13936
drwxrwxrwt   8 root   root4096 May 13 04:02 .
drwxr-xr-x  32 root   root4096 Feb 11 15:36 ..
-rwxrwxr--   1 oracle dba9 May 11 20:50 aabb

$ chgrp oinstall aabb
chgrp: changing group of `aabb': Operation not permitted


--- 09/5/12 (二),Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com 寫道:

 寄件者: Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
 主旨: Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?
 收件者: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 日期: 2009年5月12日,二,下午3:38
 nate wrote:
  mcclnx mcc wrote:
  We are tried to count how many files belong to
 certain group. Our system
  administrator told us non-owner can easy change
 file group name to
  another.  I have been tried several
 combination and never successful (only
  ROOT can change file group to other name).
 
  Does anyone know how no-owner can change file
 group name?
  
  If the no-owner user has write access to the file
 they could
  copy the file to a new file name(thus getting
 ownership of the
  file), and overwriting the original file with the new
 file.
 
 You need write access in the directory, but only read
 access to the 
 original file to do this.
 
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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread John R Pierce
mcclnx mcc wrote:
 we plan to count how many files belong to that group.  For example HR or 
 Finance.
   

not sure why you need to change the file's group to do this.

for g in hr finance; do
echo $(find . -type f -group $g |wc -l) files in group $g
done


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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread John R Pierce
nate wrote:
 Scott Silva wrote:

   
 But if you only have read access to the original file, can you overwrite it?
 

 If you have write access to the directory yes you should be able
 to, if you only have read access to the directory I would expect
 not.
   

nope.

[pie...@ test]$ grep pierce /etc/group
postgres:x:26:pierce
pierce:x:503:
[pie...@ test]$ touch x
[pie...@  test]$ ls -la
total 8
drwxrwxr-x  2 pierce pierce 4096 May 13 07:58 .
drwxr-xr-x 37 pierce root   4096 May 13 07:57 ..
-rw-rw-r--  1 pierce pierce0 May 13 07:58 x
[pie...@ test]$ chgrp postgres x
chgrp: changing group of `x': Operation not permitted


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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread Les Mikesell
mcclnx mcc wrote:
 I don't think that is true:  (my login ID are member of DBA and OINSTALL 
 group)
 
 $ ls -al
 total 13936
 drwxrwxrwt   8 root   root4096 May 13 04:02 .
 drwxr-xr-x  32 root   root4096 Feb 11 15:36 ..
 -rwxrwxr--   1 oracle dba9 May 11 20:50 aabb
 
 $ chgrp oinstall aabb
 chgrp: changing group of `aabb': Operation not permitted

Correct - you can't change the existing file.  However, you can replace 
it if you have write access in the containing directory:
cp aabb aabb.tmp
chgrp oinstall aabb.tmp
mv aabb.tmp aabb

You'll change the owner and break any other hard links as a side effect too.

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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:01, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 nope.

 [pie...@ test]$ grep pierce /etc/group
 postgres:x:26:pierce
 pierce:x:503:
 [pie...@ test]$ touch x
 [pie...@  test]$ ls -la
 total 8
 drwxrwxr-x  2 pierce pierce 4096 May 13 07:58 .
 drwxr-xr-x 37 pierce root   4096 May 13 07:57 ..
 -rw-rw-r--  1 pierce pierce    0 May 13 07:58 x
 [pie...@ test]$ chgrp postgres x
 chgrp: changing group of `x': Operation not permitted

It would work if user pierce belonged to group postgres.

But it only works if you are the owner of the file. If you belong to
the group the file belongs to, it does not work.

I would say the best way to handle group ownership in Linux (and Unix)
is to make sure files are originally created with the correct groups
(possibly by using setgid directories).

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread Blackburn, Marvin
When we migrated from HPUX to Redhat we noticed this.  I opened a case
and we determined that you could not do this with the standard chgrp or
chown commands if you are not root.  The reason I was given is to keep
people from getting around the disk quota stuff.

A listing in one of the redhat forums stated that there was an option in
one of the .h files that determined if this was allowed.  You had to
recompile your kernel to get this to work.  

We did some workarounds with sudo to get the necessary functionality.

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Behalf Of Robert Nichols
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:51 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

nate wrote:
 Scott Silva wrote:
 
 But if you only have read access to the original file, can you
overwrite it?
 
 If you have write access to the directory yes you should be able
 to, if you only have read access to the directory I would expect
 not.

Technically, that's not overwriting.  That's removing the original and
replacing it with another file with the same name.  That difference
would be significant if there where other hard links to the original
file.

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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread John R Pierce
Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
 Hi,

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:01, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
   
 nope.

 [pie...@ test]$ grep pierce /etc/group
 postgres:x:26:pierce
 pierce:x:503:
 [pie...@ test]$ touch x
 [pie...@  test]$ ls -la
 total 8
 drwxrwxr-x  2 pierce pierce 4096 May 13 07:58 .
 drwxr-xr-x 37 pierce root   4096 May 13 07:57 ..
 -rw-rw-r--  1 pierce pierce0 May 13 07:58 x
 [pie...@ test]$ chgrp postgres x
 chgrp: changing group of `x': Operation not permitted
 

 It would work if user pierce belonged to group postgres.
   

Um, I do, I showed that up there.

 But it only works if you are the owner of the file. If you belong to
 the group the file belongs to, it does not work.

   

I was both owner of file AND member of both from and to groups, AND had 
write access to the directory.  still doesn't allow it.   CentOS 5.3, btw.

 I would say the best way to handle group ownership in Linux (and Unix)
 is to make sure files are originally created with the correct groups
 (possibly by using setgid directories).
   

I concur.


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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:18, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
 [pie...@ test]$ grep pierce /etc/group
 postgres:x:26:pierce
 pierce:x:503:

 It would work if user pierce belonged to group postgres.

 Um, I do, I showed that up there.

 I was both owner of file AND member of both from and to groups, AND had
 write access to the directory.  still doesn't allow it.   CentOS 5.3, btw.

Did you just add yourself to that group? The processes you run will
not know you are a member of that group until you logout and login
again (open new SSH session, etc.).

When you issue the id command (with no parameters), does it include
the postgres group?

HTH,
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Re: [CentOS] rpmbuild date shift

2009-05-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
David Hrbáč wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt napsal(a):
  Yes, I'm seeing that too:
  
  Even if that is changed to UTC, it still is May 13th (and it doesn't explain
  why subsequent changelog entries are one day off, too.
  
  Ralph
 
 Thanks Ralph. Yes, it has nothing to do with time zone. I'm not sure if
 I've seen it before last rpmbuild update.

Must be within mock:

[angen...@shutdown ~]$rpm -qp --changelog
redhat/RPMS/x86_64/drbd82-8.2.7.git_20090512-1.x86_64.rpm | head -1
* Wed May 13 2009 Ralph Angenendt ra...@centos.org

That rpm has been built with rpmbuild -ba drbd.spec.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] can non-owner change file group setup?

2009-05-13 Thread John R Pierce
Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
 Did you just add yourself to that group? The processes you run will
 not know you are a member of that group until you logout and login
 again (open new SSH session, etc.).

 When you issue the id command (with no parameters), does it include
 the postgres group?
   

ah, yes, I had just added that in another root shell.  you're right, I 
logged out and back and and yes, it -does- work...

[pie...@ test]$ id
uid=503(pierce) gid=503(pierce) groups=26(postgres),503(pierce)
[pie...@ test]$ ls -la
total 8
drwxrwxr-x  2 pierce pierce 4096 May 13 07:58 .
drwxr-xr-x 37 pierce root   4096 May 13 07:57 ..
-rw-rw-r--  1 pierce pierce0 May 13 07:58 x
[pie...@ test]$ chgrp postgres x
[pie...@ test]$ ls -la
total 8
drwxrwxr-x  2 pierce pierce   4096 May 13 07:58 .
drwxr-xr-x 37 pierce root 4096 May 13 07:57 ..
-rw-rw-r--  1 pierce postgres0 May 13 07:58 x


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Re: [CentOS] rpmbuild date shift

2009-05-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
David Hrbáč wrote:
 Hi,
 I'd like to ask if anyone's experiencing date shift with rpmbuild/mock
 on C5. I see +1 day date shift within changelog. Checked with
 mock-0.9.14-3.el5.hrb and mock-0.6.13-1.el5_2.3.

I just randomly picked up a few pkgs that have come through the 
buildsystem on centos, and they dont seem to have a date issue, although 
some of them seem to have gone from single digit day mark to double 
digit. eg: May 4 2009 is now May 04 2009. And I have no idea why that 
is, its not good.

Will poke the stuff a bit more today and try to work out what is going 
on and why this is happening. If you guys dig up anything in the mean 
time, do let me know.

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Re: [CentOS] Calendar server

2009-05-13 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-13-2009 6:35 AM Max Hetrick spake the following:
 Scott Silva wrote:
 
 As for IMAP access, Horde is fine. It will also work with other backends like
 Kolab if you so choose. I also didn't want to use Zimbra because I run my own
 spam and virus scanning, and I didn't want to downgrade to what Zimbra
 thinks works. And Horde has been around for a long time, and seems to stay
 current. The devels are very active, and patches come out regularly.
 
 Have you guys had any security issues with Horde at all running on an 
 outside world server? I'm reading their security tips now, but wanted 
 any opinions on experiences.
 
 Thanks,
 Max
Stay up to date like any other piece of code. I see script kiddie attempts to
hit some of the older exploits, but haven't seen any problems yet.



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.3 installation on HP DL380 R05 server

2009-05-13 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-12-2009 10:02 PM Nguyen Hai Chau spake the following:
 Thanks to Joseph and Nate for helpful answers.
 
  A stupid question: I do not receive your mails although already
 subsribed to this list. I read your answers on mail archive. I set up my
 account to receive email from list but it seems not work.
 
You will need to see if they are getting caught by a spam filter.



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[CentOS] Network Install Procedure Question

2009-05-13 Thread Kaplan, Andrew H.
Hi there --

I wanted to do a netinstall of the 5.3 release, and the source that I had in
mind was either an ftp or http site. 
When going through this procedure, am I going to download the .iso images from
one of the mirror sites or 
is/are there a directory(ies) at another site(s) that I should specify as the
source of the files? Thanks.






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Re: [CentOS] Network Install Procedure Question

2009-05-13 Thread JohnS

On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 16:24 -0400, Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote:
 Hi there --
 
 I wanted to do a netinstall of the 5.3 release, and the source that I
 had in mind was either an ftp or http site. 
 When going through this procedure, am I going to download the .iso
 images from one of the mirror sites or 
 is/are there a directory(ies) at another site(s) that I should specify
 as the source of the files? Thanks.
---
That is what the Mirror Sites are for and why there are there.

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Re: [CentOS] Network Install Procedure Question

2009-05-13 Thread Tim Shubitz
On May 13, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote:

 Hi there --

 I wanted to do a netinstall of the 5.3 release, and the source that  
 I had in
 mind was either an ftp or http site.
 When going through this procedure, am I going to download the .iso  
 images from
 one of the mirror sites or
 is/are there a directory(ies) at another site(s) that I should  
 specify as the
 source of the files? Thanks.

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Installation_Guide/s1-begininstall-ftp-x86.html

and

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Installation_Guide/s1-begininstall-http-x86.html

Is that what you're looking for?


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Re: [CentOS] Network Install Procedure Question

2009-05-13 Thread Kaplan, Andrew H.
Hi there --

Yes, I read that section. What I am asking is the following: When entering the 
information into the fields, the URL for one of the mirror sites would be on 
the first line. When I went to several of the mirror sites, the iso images were 
there, but there were no directories listed for the packages. If that is the
case, am I going to be downloading the .iso images during the install, or is
there
a directory at that or some other location that contains the packages needed for
the installation to proceed?





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Subject: Re: [CentOS] Network Install Procedure Question

On May 13, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote:

 Hi there --

 I wanted to do a netinstall of the 5.3 release, and the source that  
 I had in
 mind was either an ftp or http site.
 When going through this procedure, am I going to download the .iso  
 images from
 one of the mirror sites or
 is/are there a directory(ies) at another site(s) that I should  
 specify as the
 source of the files? Thanks.

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Installation_Guide/s1-begininstall-ftp-x86
.html

and

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Installation_Guide/s1-begininstall-http-x8
6.html

Is that what you're looking for?


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Re: [CentOS] Network Install Procedure Question

2009-05-13 Thread Tim Shubitz
On May 13, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote:

 Hi there --

 Yes, I read that section. What I am asking is the following: When  
 entering the
 information into the fields, the URL for one of the mirror sites  
 would be on
 the first line. When I went to several of the mirror sites, the iso  
 images were
 there, but there were no directories listed for the packages. If  
 that is the
 case, am I going to be downloading the .iso images during the  
 install, or is
 there
 a directory at that or some other location that contains the  
 packages needed for
 the installation to proceed?

I think I see what you're asking.

If you start out at http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/5.3/isos/ 
i386/ and choose a mirror (say, 
http://mirrors.bluehost.com/centos/5.3/isos/i386/) 
  you'll be presented with a list of the ISOs for CentOS.

What the netinstall is looking for is a few directories back and down  
from this location.

By clicking on Parent Directory two times and drilling down into os/ 
i386, THIS is directory path that you want to enter into the  
netinstall part of the CentOS installer.

 From the example mirror above, the first line would be...

mirrors.bluehost.com

and the second line would be...

centos/5.3os/i386

The installer goes into the images directory and downloads  
stage2.img to continue with the net-based  installation.

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[CentOS] File compare word by word

2009-05-13 Thread MHR
Is there a utility that compares files word by word, instead of whole
lines or single bytes?

I found that I can simulate this by replacing all the spaces in a file
with linefeeds, then 'diff -B' the results, but that's kind of awkward
and hard to read when differences that matter come up.

(For the record, I tried using OOo's document comparer, converting to
text and using diff, and a few others, but none of them worked.  I
used to think that running text files through fmt would help, but fmt
is strangely inconsistent as to where it breaks lines, even when the
content within a line or two is identical.)

Thanks.

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[CentOS] Remote Desktop on CentOS 5.3

2009-05-13 Thread Alfred von Campe
Does anyone have remote desktop connectivity working in CentOS 5.3?   
I'm using the Gnome desktop and have configured the Remote Deskop  
Preferences to Allow other users to view your desktop and Allow  
other users to control your desktop.  The configuration dialog box  
says that Users can view your desktop using this command: vncviewer  
HOSTNAME.domain.com:0.  However, when I try to connect to it from  
another host, I always get a Connection reset by peer error  
message.  I've tried various different clients an operation systems,  
and I get the same result.  I disabled the firewall completely for  
this test (service iptables stop) so I know it's not a firewall  
issue.  Then again, I don't see a vncserver process running either,  
so that may be the issue.  This was working on CentOS 5.2.

What do I need to do to access my existing desktop on my CentOS 5.3  
system remotely?  I don't need to use VNC, but I do want to access  
the existing session and not a separate desktop (i.e., by starting a  
vncserver process).

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] 5.3 and XFS

2009-05-13 Thread James Pearson
Geoff Galitz wrote:
 
 FWIW, at FOSDEM 2009 Ted T'so said that he anticipated official XFS support
 from Redhat in the near future as they recently hired some experienced XFS
 engineers. 
 
 It was not an official announcement of any kind, he was just speculating
 during a presentation on ext4. It's all just speculation until we see the
 goods, of course.

I think it is more than speculation - xfs support has already gone into 
5.4 pre-release kernels at http://people.redhat.com/dzickus/el5/ - the 
change log includes:

- [fs] xfs: backport to rhel5.4 kernel (Eric Sandeen ) [470845]
- [fs] xfs:  update to 2.6.28.6 codebase (Eric Sandeen ) [470845]

Eric Sandeen is ex-SGI and I guess the experienced XFS engineer 
mentioned ...

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Re: [CentOS] File compare word by word

2009-05-13 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi,

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 18:02, MHR mhullr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there a utility that compares files word by word, instead of whole
 lines or single bytes?

It is not exactly what you are looking for, but have you tried
vimdiff? If lines differ, it will highlight the words that are
different in them. It is still line-oriented, so it does not work if
you reformat a paragraph, but if you want to find which parts of a
long command line are different it is quite useful.

HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] Remote Desktop on CentOS 5.3

2009-05-13 Thread Paul Berger
You can try the quick how-to I posted here:
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2007-October/045424.html

I've had some issues with the display showing corrupted data depending on
the X server being used.  SVGA always seems to work, the latest Intel one
seems fine also.

Regards,
Paul Berger

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Alfred von Campe alf...@von-campe.comwrote:

 Does anyone have remote desktop connectivity working in CentOS 5.3?
 I'm using the Gnome desktop and have configured the Remote Deskop
 Preferences to Allow other users to view your desktop and Allow
 other users to control your desktop.  The configuration dialog box
 says that Users can view your desktop using this command: vncviewer
 HOSTNAME.domain.com:0.  However, when I try to connect to it from
 another host, I always get a Connection reset by peer error
 message.  I've tried various different clients an operation systems,
 and I get the same result.  I disabled the firewall completely for
 this test (service iptables stop) so I know it's not a firewall
 issue.  Then again, I don't see a vncserver process running either,
 so that may be the issue.  This was working on CentOS 5.2.

 What do I need to do to access my existing desktop on my CentOS 5.3
 system remotely?  I don't need to use VNC, but I do want to access
 the existing session and not a separate desktop (i.e., by starting a
 vncserver process).

 Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Shell Script Pointers?

2009-05-13 Thread Spiro Harvey
 to run nightly, it will download the latest blacklist tarball, un tar
 it and then add any new entries to the existing black list. The

if you're already going to the effort of downloading the entire
blacklist every night, why not dump the old database, and just insert
the newly downloaded one?

 tar -cxf blacklist.tar

this will suck your computer into a vortex of doom. I recommend either
creating a tarball, or extracting one, but not both at the same time. :)

In all honesty, you might be better targeting this query to squidGuard
users, as this may be something they do regularly.


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Re: [CentOS] Remote Desktop on CentOS 5.3

2009-05-13 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Alfred von Campe alf...@von-campe.com wrote:
 The configuration dialog box
 says that Users can view your desktop using this command: vncviewer
 HOSTNAME.domain.com:0.  However, when I try to connect to it from
 another host, I always get a Connection reset by peer error
 message.

Try

vncviewer -via HOSTNAME.domain.com localhost:0

This tunnels the VNC connection through SSH.
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Re: [CentOS] Shell Script Pointers?

2009-05-13 Thread James Bensley
 if you're already going to the effort of downloading the entire
 blacklist every night, why not dump the old database, and just insert
 the newly downloaded one?

Because we also add our own entries to the current blacklist so we are
just adding any new entries from the nightly updates of our blacklist
provides

 tar -cxf blacklist.tar

 this will suck your computer into a vortex of doom. I recommend either
 creating a tarball, or extracting one, but not both at the same time. :)

Its ok the blacklist is text so its a 10mb tarball of text. Takes
about 30 seconds to download and it will take about 2 minutes for the
script to run ;)

 In all honesty, you might be better targeting this query to squidGuard
 users, as this may be something they do regularly.

Should be simple text manipulation :( none the less a good idea I will
post my question there. Thanks!

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