Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Am Mittwoch, den 16.09.2009, 20:45 +0200 schrieb Scott Robbins: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 01:27:42PM -0400, Max Hetrick wrote: Christoph Maser wrote: Btw. i really consider the current nagios article on the wiki bad. Its totally outdated and covers way to much info how to configure nagios itself. In my opinion this should be simply replaced by links to the official documentation since it is out of place and incomplete. The point of the article was exactly that. I'll have to disagree here, since the point of the guide is how to install and configure Nagios for basic use. I personally don't care if you edit it to your likes, but many people find it useful as it is, because Nagios can be quite complicated to use. Just as an example, when we first decided to try to institute nagios, I was going through the docs for two days, trying to make sense of them. Then I found Max's article (actually his original, on his site). If you *are* going to edit it, I truly hope you aren't going to make it more like the docs on the nagios site. So we should make a proper nagios documentation on the centos-wiki because the official nagios docs suck? financial.com AG Munich head office/Hauptsitz München: Maria-Probst-Str. 19 | 80939 München | Germany Frankfurt branch office/Niederlassung Frankfurt: Messeturm | Friedrich-Ebert-Anlage 49 | 60327 Frankfurt | Germany Management board/Vorstand: Dr. Steffen Boehnert (CEO/Vorsitzender) | Dr. Alexis Eisenhofer | Dr. Yann Samson | Matthias Wiederwach Supervisory board/Aufsichtsrat: Dr. Dr. Ernst zur Linden (chairman/Vorsitzender) Register court/Handelsregister: Munich – HRB 128 972 | Sales tax ID number/St.Nr.: DE205 370 553 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Am Mittwoch, den 16.09.2009, 20:36 +0200 schrieb Scott Robbins: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 06:50:41PM +0200, Christoph Maser wrote: Done. I hope you incorporate The things Christoph Maser has mentioned and don't just add the one line from your first mail (which will break, when the box is relabeled). Ralph Btw. i really consider the current nagios article on the wiki bad. Its totally outdated and covers way to much info how to configure nagios itself. In my opinion this should be simply replaced by links to the official documentation since it is out of place and incomplete. I must respectfully disagree. Nagios documentation is not well laid out. I know that the nagios docs suck, and actually everything around nagios. But what does that have to do with centos? And why don't you contribute to the nagios docs? The nagios-wiki (http://wkiki.nagios.org) is totally orphaned also! financial.com AG Munich head office/Hauptsitz München: Maria-Probst-Str. 19 | 80939 München | Germany Frankfurt branch office/Niederlassung Frankfurt: Messeturm | Friedrich-Ebert-Anlage 49 | 60327 Frankfurt | Germany Management board/Vorstand: Dr. Steffen Boehnert (CEO/Vorsitzender) | Dr. Alexis Eisenhofer | Dr. Yann Samson | Matthias Wiederwach Supervisory board/Aufsichtsrat: Dr. Dr. Ernst zur Linden (chairman/Vorsitzender) Register court/Handelsregister: Munich – HRB 128 972 | Sales tax ID number/St.Nr.: DE205 370 553 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Hi all, I know that the nagios docs suck, and actually everything around nagios. But what does that have to do with centos? And why don't you contribute to the nagios docs? The nagios-wiki (http://wkiki.nagios.org) is totally orphaned also! I personally agree on that. We have similar issues with the Spacewalk documentation (another thread :?). It would be great to have something like an installation guide covering the CentOS specific aspects and links to the upstream docs. For Spacewalk e.g., I have started to improve the 'official' upstream docs a bit (which are already quite good), instead of re-generating content. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Christoph Maser wrote: So we should make a proper nagios documentation on the centos-wiki because the official nagios docs suck? No, but I don't see that it's a problem that it's on the CentOS wiki. There are lots of guides on the wiki that aren't exactly CentOS specific, so does that mean we should scrap those as well? What's the point of an OS, especially a server OS, that you can't extend on with other open source applications? The CentOS wiki serves as a wonderful place to store things that allow CentOS users and admins to come to one location and have resources and tools at their disposal, without having to go digging around the web finding what they need. That's the entire point of the wiki, so share, and so this CentOS specific topic that comes up all the time, I have a hard time with. It's already been suggested to split the doc out into pieces. Everyone seemed to agree that was fine. If that's what everyone wants to do, then go for it, make the changes, and let this end. Arguing back and forth about this is silly though. Usually people are complaining that docs are lacking in detail, here people are complaining they are too detailed. I'm confused... :| Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
The true URL: http://wiki.nagios.org Regards: FRamonTB --- El jue, 17/9/09, Christoph Maser c...@financial.com escribió: De: Christoph Maser c...@financial.com Asunto: Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2 Para: Mail list for wiki articles centos-docs@centos.org Fecha: jueves, 17 septiembre, 2009 8:12 Am Mittwoch, den 16.09.2009, 20:36 +0200 schrieb Scott Robbins: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 06:50:41PM +0200, Christoph Maser wrote: Done. I hope you incorporate The things Christoph Maser has mentioned and don't just add the one line from your first mail (which will break, when the box is relabeled). Ralph Btw. i really consider the current nagios article on the wiki bad. Its totally outdated and covers way to much info how to configure nagios itself. In my opinion this should be simply replaced by links to the official documentation since it is out of place and incomplete. I must respectfully disagree. Nagios documentation is not well laid out. I know that the nagios docs suck, and actually everything around nagios. But what does that have to do with centos? And why don't you contribute to the nagios docs? The nagios-wiki (http://wkiki.nagios.org) is totally orphaned also! financial.com AG Munich head office/Hauptsitz München: Maria-Probst-Str. 19 | 80939 München | Germany Frankfurt branch office/Niederlassung Frankfurt: Messeturm | Friedrich-Ebert-Anlage 49 | 60327 Frankfurt | Germany Management board/Vorstand: Dr. Steffen Boehnert (CEO/Vorsitzender) | Dr. Alexis Eisenhofer | Dr. Yann Samson | Matthias Wiederwach Supervisory board/Aufsichtsrat: Dr. Dr. Ernst zur Linden (chairman/Vorsitzender) Register court/Handelsregister: Munich – HRB 128 972 | Sales tax ID number/St.Nr.: DE205 370 553 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Spacewalk documentation
Marcus Moeller wrote : [...] We have similar issues with the Spacewalk documentation (another thread :?). It would be great to have something like an installation guide covering the CentOS specific aspects and links to the upstream docs. For Spacewalk e.g., I have started to improve the 'official' upstream docs a bit (which are already quite good), instead of re-generating content. Can you explain what you would like to merge from the CentOS-wiki Spacewalk documentation to the official one? Since I am the primary author of the CentOS-wiki Spacewalk documentation, I would like to be involved in this process. -- Patrice ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Spacewalk documentation
Dear Patrice. We have similar issues with the Spacewalk documentation (another thread :?). It would be great to have something like an installation guide covering the CentOS specific aspects and links to the upstream docs. For Spacewalk e.g., I have started to improve the 'official' upstream docs a bit (which are already quite good), instead of re-generating content. Can you explain what you would like to merge from the CentOS-wiki Spacewalk documentation to the official one? As mentioned I have just started to update the upstrem docs with some CentOS specific tasks. I think the installation procedure (including database setup) is described well there. Of course, I will discuss any changes on the CentOS wiki site with you. Atm. I am working on another task (documenting re-build procedure) where you are also invented to take part, as I guess you got the best knowledge in (re)mastering the live-cd. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Spacewalk documentation
On 09/17/2009 02:22 PM, Marcus Moeller wrote: Atm. I am working on another task (documenting re-build procedure) isnt that just a case of running revisor over the tree ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Spacewalk documentation
2009/9/17 Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org: On 09/17/2009 02:22 PM, Marcus Moeller wrote: Atm. I am working on another task (documenting re-build procedure) isnt that just a case of running revisor over the tree ? Of course some tasks could be handled with revisor, but not everything I am in need of. I am working on a customized EL installation media containing all Spacewalk resources for automated installation via kickstart. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] proposed nvidia wiki page
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:12 +0100, Ned Slider wrote: JohnS wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 15:11 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 08:51:23PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote: The only reason for me to keep maintaining the dkms packages, would be for those people not running supported kernels (recent/official). But if we could describe and automate the building of kmod packages, I would prefer that route over dkms at any time. For what it's worth, the elrepo version worked well with my unsupported kernel (a VServer 2.6.22 kernel) --- Could those that are trying out the kmod driver please report what video card model you have. Would be nice to have a good list of the Legacy and Newer Cards. JohnStanley That tends to change as the drivers move forward over time, older cards become legacy and are no longer supported by the latest driver. For a list of cards supported by the latest driver, the user is better off referring to nvidia's documentation. Looking at the docs for the current driver leads me to believe that GeForce 6000 series cards are the oldest supported by this driver (GeForce 5x00 series is supported by the 173.14.xx driver and older still GeForce2/3/4 by driver 96.43.xx). We (ELRepo) haven't packaged older nvidia drivers (yet) but we can certainly look into that if there is a demand. --- Maybe consider doing it? I myself use a lot of older hardware with the legacy cards in them. Umm, what's involvled doing it? NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg1.run is used in one of my desktops. Which supports most legacy cards from nvidia. JohnStanley ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Building yet another an off round wheel; was: Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Christoph Maser wrote: So we should make a proper nagios documentation on the centos-wiki because the official nagios docs suck? I've said it before, and thought I was a voice crying alone in the wilderness -- welcome, Christoph ;) herrold prior: WHY are we building maintenance load? What is wrong with the virtualization documentation we already ship? I know I file bugs upstream on xen and libvirt, but no one participating on this thread here has so far as I can see; if there is a problem of lack of clarity, the answer is NOT to write yet more non-authoritative doco first http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2009-April/002623.html We were down this same path as to virtualization months ago, and by coincidence my script wrapping virt-install was mentioned in an IRC channel just yesterday later: herrold prior: I remain unconvinced that replicating documentation, and adding places for entropy to rot in a wiki is a win. I'd upstream the change, instead, as there is NO CentOS specific aspect here. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2009-April/002799.html herrold prior: I have no such goal to court public opinion, and I think neither does the core value of the project; that people feel a need to use CentOS as a locus to contribute is a matter beyond the core scope mandate of a strict rebuild project The CentOS core mandate, to me, is to elide trademarks from an upstream FOSS sources rebuild; solving the issue of the non-free updater solution upstream; and preserving (lovingly) all bugs to match upstream. I see NO shame in being called knock-off _out of_ a commercial product, any more than Red Hat should feel shame in stabilising the enormous effort of the free software community that preceded them (and that continues independent of, or in conjunction with them) _into_ a commercial product. This is the point of FOSS [ESR, and the 'chasing the tail-lights' example]. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2009-April/002807.html New editorial matter resumes: If people want to write content, they NEED TO GO TO FEDORA, or the upstream, and get patches accepted, so the changes flow back down in our future. Go work at the trailhead, not in an upstream project's past (here Nagios). We at CentOS are an enterprise rebuild as the core product. Nothing more. That is OUR trailhead Tasks in doco, sub-projects, and the like that take away from building, testing and pushing the SRPMs into binary RPMs at point update time; [to permit us to end the 'updates blackout' window and resume] the security updates; and the (rare) difficult stablization of new ISOs at major release when anaconda has traditionally made major delta, should properly come later, if at all Support for CentOS specific variations is fair game. But most of the wiki and the forums as I scan it simply repeat existing content with GENERAL usage information; In part that why I am so ready to be scornful of IRC 'spoonfeeders', and to try to keep #centos an on topic teaching channel, rather than a 'drop in answer takeaway' store. Building yet more 'stuff' down paths with no future and in the past only provides food for entropy to eat away at; it imposes load to no meaningful gain. My $0.02 -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Please remove my wiki account
Wiki Admins, I will no longer be participating in the CentOS wiki. I've removed my name from any of the pages that were submitted by me, and welcome others to do so with the pages as they wish. I'd like to be removed from the EditGroup, as well as have my account deleted. Username: MaxHetrick Unfortunately, attitudes about what the wiki should be and currently are, and my own attitude about it, aren't aligned. The CentOS wiki should be a welcomed place for user contributed documentation, but as time goes on it seems as though that's not what many key people envision or want. Attitudes of many CentOS persons have been leading to people leaving the community as of late. I'm certainly a peon, but that's not the point. The point is about attitudes. If attitudes don't start to change as a whole, no one will want to help out. CentOS needs to clearly lay out more strict rules and guidelines for submissions in the future if they want more controlled content. I know for a fact there are many posts that aren't CentOS specific. Another guide I wrote for BackupPC is one such post. If these types of content aren't to be submitted by other contributors in the future, I suggest laying out some better steps to follow so people like myself know whether they can be useful to donate items or not. I hope attitudes in the future start to change for the better. Thanks, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] proposed nvidia wiki page
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 7:16 AM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:12 +0100, Ned Slider wrote: We (ELRepo) haven't packaged older nvidia drivers (yet) but we can certainly look into that if there is a demand. --- Maybe consider doing it? I myself use a lot of older hardware with the legacy cards in them. Umm, what's involvled doing it? NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9639-pkg1.run is used in one of my desktops. Which supports most legacy cards from nvidia. JohnStanley Could you file a request at the ELRepo bug tracker ( http://elrepo.org/bugs ) ? Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Building yet another an off round wheel; was: Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:26:48AM -0400, R P Herrold wrote: We at CentOS are an enterprise rebuild as the core product. Nothing more. That is OUR trailhead Then this should be made VERY plain on the wiki's front page. as noted at the onset, my $0.02 I don't hide my belief that CentOS has to do core matters first -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On 09/16/2009 07:13 PM, Max Hetrick wrote: In my experience with working with Nagios, the problem that always came up was that people didn't know where to even start because there were too many options, and they were overwhelmed. I totally agree. Having enough content in one place so that someone can pickup with things, get it installed and also be able to work through enough things to be productive is good. Too many places fall flat on their face when its a case of look here to install, look there to workout whats going on and look somewhere else for the final grained stuff. Once you know enough about an app or technology its easier to find specific problems(!) or specific solutions(!). I feel it's important to have that information on the wiki, even though it's not CentOS specific. It's asked for a lot and used. Splitting it up would make sense. Right, the thread here seemed to be heading down the path of 'too much stuff' - whereas I think its more of a case of organising things. The other thing, and I feel not enough people keep this in mind, is that with the EL / CentOS platform its important to keep content and app sanity in mind. Upstream's dont like that - samba being a classic case. On the flip side you have pgsql where the upstream is very pro single 'silo' based docs, code and apps. In many cases, the content we put together needs to be there and stay there in a way that its still relevant to the apps that are in the distro - whereas upstreams will, like samba, mostly just move their content up with trunk changes in code. That works for many people and in many scenarios, not always. So keep that in mind guys. Its not a bad thing to have enough content in place that its still in some stable format. And every contributor would need to consider that in the context of the app itself. But in many cases, you will realise that its worth putting together enough things that are relevant to the code we handle, and only to he code we handle. URL's and 'futher reading' sections are easy to plumb into the end of most articles too. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On 09/17/2009 07:07 AM, Christoph Maser wrote: So we should make a proper nagios documentation on the centos-wiki because the official nagios docs suck? Read my last email in reply to Max. Things are not really that black and white. Nagios docs suck. Their developers have made it a point to go out of their way to make content and config process's obscure. The reason why its still used as widely as it is - is because of the alternative support mechanisms that exist, and a bit of luck. On a more general front - are we sure that all docs on the Nagios website are relevant to CentOS and as specific packages age, will continue to do so ? eg. CentOS-3, is a much used platform - are the docs they host at nagios still relevant ? are the latest / greatest builds still supported on the C3 platform ? Irrespective of what the answers to those questions might be - consider the same question on a more generic level. Do all upstreams everywhere always have relevant content and will help with any version from anywhere ? On the completely extreme ( and I say this here only to prove a point, I am sure you will understand that ), would you argue that the redhat docs are also a waste of effort and they should - as well, just upstream much of what they do ? if not all. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On 09/17/2009 07:31 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: I personally agree on that. We have similar issues with the Spacewalk documentation (another thread :?). It would be great to have something like an installation guide covering the CentOS specific aspects and links to the upstream docs. Thats interesting - since much of the spacewalk development happens on CentOS and there are quite a few different places where its documented. Also, I dont think its a fair comparison Nagios and Spacewalk. Spacewalk is specifically targetting the EL/CentOS base and in many cases there is synergy there between upstream, users and the leechers around it. Nagios has no such relation to the CentOS project. but then thats a point you highlight already: For Spacewalk e.g., I have started to improve the 'official' upstream docs a bit (which are already quite good), instead of re-generating content. Btw, there is also an effort underway to have a centos specific spacewalk repo hosted on centos.org to make life even easier. At that point, where would you document the install and getting started ? Would you not atleast consider a stub on the CentOS wiki that gives people the relevant kick-off they need ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Dear Karan. For Spacewalk e.g., I have started to improve the 'official' upstream docs a bit (which are already quite good), instead of re-generating content. Btw, there is also an effort underway to have a centos specific spacewalk repo hosted on centos.org to make life even easier. At that point, where would you document the install and getting started ? Would you not atleast consider a stub on the CentOS wiki that gives people the relevant kick-off they need ? In this case I would simply suggest not to setup a CentOS specific spacewalk repo (for what?). Besides that I think that docs that are not available somewhere else in any form could as well be published on the CentOS wiki. This would even make more sense if they are centos-specific. So I am a bit disappointed (but can understand) ppl. like Max who already contributed high quality docs in the past are re-signing from contributing to the wiki (just because one or two other guys have a different pov). I have also suggested that docs like the CentOS specific owlriver rpm howtos (http://www.owlriver.com/tips/non-root/) could as well resist on the CentOS wiki. But it's not my decision. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Marcus Moeller wrote: So I am a bit disappointed (but can understand) ppl. like Max who already contributed high quality docs in the past are re-signing from contributing to the wiki (just because one or two other guys have a different pov). I have also suggested that docs like the CentOS specific owlriver rpm howtos (http://www.owlriver.com/tips/non-root/) could as well resist on the CentOS wiki. But it's not my decision. The problem is to me, and the reason I decided I don't want to contribute any longer, is the fact that you have CentOS team members not agreeing on a format for content. You have one or two saying they want it this way, and you have some saying it should be this way. You have one team member stating they believe writers should go upstream for all documentation purposes, and then another saying no. The problem with that is the fact that it's not realistic to take that approach, because not all projects are going to be willing to fix their documentation upstream. That's the reason why I write things that I write. To make it easier on admins and users to get the application going, and then if they want to further learn, tackle more complex documentation. That's the exact reason the Nagios guide exists in the first place. When I started working with it, I had trouble learning it. I decided to make that experience better for others and write a howto. To go off-topic, as a side job, I write publications with this exact approach and get paid for it. My articles there are exactly that, called TechTips. I take a piece of software, or a topic, and write a technical tip meant to get the reader/user up and running. Part of my success there has been because I take a how-to approach to the guides, which the readers love. From there, they can expand their horizons with documentation all they want for more complex issues. Obviously there is a need for such articles, because they pay me and tell me as such. :) They're in the business of documentation and articles, so they should know. Most people always want a more simple way of understanding a concept, rather than diving into code documentation, or this case, Nagios' cryptic and overwhelming docs. To continue about the wiki, the problem for contributors like myself then becomes, well what do I do, or how should I write for them. Although I often times enjoy the democracy of opinions on the docs list, it becomes confusing for a contributor when you have team members disagreeing in public forum. One time a topic of post is ok'd to be put on, the next time then it's criticized and not ok. There is no consistency for authors and contributors, and I really believe that needs worked out within. What really needs to occur is that the team members really need to agree on, and publish on the site, some standards that ALL the team members can agree on. At that level, all of these issues could be ironed out, to hopefully create a set of standards of acceptable content. Then these types of conversations and arguments won't need to occur, or in theory shouldn't need to occur. Perhaps I'm dreaming here to think that everyone on the team can do so, but I think something like that needs to happen one way or the other, because eventually, no one is going to want to post on the wiki for these reasons. Perhaps I'm out of line here, and perhaps I'm going on and on in a diatribe, but this is my opinion on the matter, and my further detailed reasons for not wanting the headache of contributing any longer. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Marcus Moeller wrote: different pov). I have also suggested that docs like the CentOS specific owlriver rpm howtos (http://www.owlriver.com/tips/non-root/) could as well resist on the CentOS wiki. But it's not my decision. I assume 'reside' for 'resist' ... Scope is one part of the issue -- I work with many Linux variants and commercial Unix variants. when it is CentOS specific, I choose to use the centos wiki; when it is not, I don't. Also of course much of the Owl River content was authored in the BC times -- Before CentOS -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Max Hetrick wrote: You have one team member stating they believe writers should go upstream for all documentation purposes, if you are referring to me, your projection into what I wrote has mislead you. -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
R P Herrold wrote: if you are referring to me, your projection into what I wrote has mislead you. Well, I was kind of referring to what you said here: If people want to write content, they NEED TO GO TO FEDORA, or the upstream, and get patches accepted, so the changes flow back down in our future. Go work at the trailhead, not in an upstream project's past (here Nagios). Unless I misinterpreted, you're basically saying that to a writer they need to go work at the project they are documenting, not CentOS. But I disagree and feel you are wrong. The power of the CentOS wiki should be that it's the one-stop shop for admins searching for a powerful rock solid OS that has CentOS-specific documentation, PLUS one that has all these extra types of applications listed with documentation as well. A server admin or user gets the best of both worlds, and as already stated, has one place to look for resources, instead of following links to various pieces all over the Internet. To me, the point of a wiki is to share. I understand your view is different, our views are different. Please, by all means, explain if that is not what you meant. That's what I took it as. For the rest of it, I pretty much already explained myself, and Scott hits the nail on the head. You, being a team member, need to sit down with the other team members and figure out what you want on the wiki, create guidelines, and post them for others to follow. Your vision of what the wiki should be is different than mine, fine, you're obviously higher on the totem pole than I, so I'll just leave and take my docs with me. It's that attitude that I don't understand, and why others don't want to deal with it. The CentOS team and wiki needs to find some consistency. Then, contributors can have something to look at to decide if their content fits. This would fix the issue of causing these wars and angering others. You would have the standards in place, and guidelines outlining what can and will get posted. To be honest, I'm plenty busy in life, I don't need to worry about whether one of my articles or guides is going to tick off a CentOS team member, or please another. This is exactly why folks are leaving the project though, and it's a problem that should be resolved before you have no one left wanting to work on the wiki. With that said, I really have no further comments on the this topic. I'll quit before I wear out my welcome. I've said my peace, explained why I won't be helping further, and truly hope you guys/gals figure out something before the no one wants to work on the wiki. Regards, Max ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Max Hetrick wrote: R P Herrold wrote: if you are referring to me, your projection into what I wrote has mislead you. Well, I was kind of referring to what you said here: If people want to write content, they NEED TO GO TO FEDORA, or the upstream, and get patches accepted, so the changes flow back down in our future. Go work at the trailhead, not in an upstream project's past (here Nagios). Unless I misinterpreted, you're basically saying that to a writer they need to go work at the project they are documenting, not CentOS no, I agree that you have me right that I think content needs to first go at the proper trailhead in all cases The primary source has to be considered, and should be more authoritative than any secondary source, except for specfic case local practice exeptions 'If you always live with those who are lame, you will yourself learn to limp' Reinventing yet another off round wheel is a losing game Please, by all means, explain if that is not what you meant. That's what I took it as. I consciously changed the Subject line to: Building yet another an off round wheel I consciously noted my comments as: My $0.02 I consciously quoted the setup: if there is a problem of lack of clarity, the answer is NOT to write yet more non-authoritative doco first I consciously quoted the 'CentOS specific' qualifier: I remain unconvinced that replicating documentation, and adding places for entropy to rot in a wiki is a win. I'd upstream the change, instead, as there is NO CentOS specific aspect here. -- your assertion of 'all' clearly mischaracterizes (or more charitably: misinterpreted) by quoting me out of context as that same piece makes it quite clear there are proper CentOS wiki uses in my view as well. It is perfectly reasonable that I argue to strive to make fewer forks and less content in the CentOS wiki under that rubric, as success means the future's primary source doco is better for _all_ FOSS approaches -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-es] Configuracion Servidor Centos 5.4
Hola, 2009/9/17 Mario Ganga mario.ga...@gmail.com Hola: Es un buen sitio donde empezar. http://www.alcancelibre.org/staticpages/index.php/manuales-indice Atte. 2009/9/16 John Alexander Carvajal Rios jacarva...@gmail.com Buenas tardes, De antemano les agradezco por la colaboracion que me puedan brindar. Me permito dirigirme a ustedes para ver si alguien me puede brindar un manual de configuracion del Centos 5.4 ya que no tengo conocimientos en el tema de administracion, y me han solicitado que debo configurar un hosting dedicado el cual no tiene instalado ningun servicio. La aplicacion esta hecha en drupal. De primera instancia necesito instalar los servicios de Apache Mysql y PHP, ademas de ello debo configurar un dominio existente a ese servidor. Les agradezco la colaboración prestada. Atentamente John Carvajal ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es broma Al final nos tendrá que pasar comisión el resp. de alcance libre, siempre recomendamos la misma... :) /broma Bromas a parte, es un muy buen punto para obtener información en castellano de CentOS. -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Problemas con Openwebmai (URGENTE)
Hola Compañeros, alguien me podria colaborar pa ver com puedo resolver el siguiente error que se me genera al enviar el siguiente correo, el error es el siguiente: Net::SMTP(2.29) Net::Cmd(2.26) Exporter(5.58) IO::Socket::INET(1.31) IO::Socket(1.30) IO::Handle(1.27) 220 matematicas.udea.edu.co ESMTP Sendmail 8.13.8/8.13.8; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:04:04 -0500 EHLO exactas.udea.edu.co 250-matematicas.udea.edu.co Hello localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP MAIL FROM:exa...@exactas.udea.edu.co 250 2.1.0 exa...@exactas.udea.edu.co... Sender ok RCPT TO:exa...@exactas.udea.edu.co 250 2.1.5 exa...@exactas.udea.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:formacionprofesio...@cedesistemas.edu.co 250 2.1.5 formacionprofesio...@cedesistemas.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:comunicacio...@colmayor.edu.co 250 2.1.5 comunicacio...@colmayor.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:merca...@corpoasa.edu.com 250 2.1.5 merca...@corpoasa.edu.com... Recipient ok RCPT TO:ibon.merca...@hotmail.com 250 2.1.5 ibon.merca...@hotmail.com... Recipient ok RCPT TO:direcciondecomuncicacio...@colegiatura.edu.co 250 2.1.5 direcciondecomuncicacio...@colegiatura.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:ohernan...@ideartes.edu.co 250 2.1.5 ohernan...@ideartes.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:exten...@unac.edu.co 250 2.1.5 exten...@unac.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:macastril...@lasallista.edu.co 250 2.1.5 macastril...@lasallista.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:jbustama...@uniminuto.edu 250 2.1.5 jbustama...@uniminuto.edu... Recipient ok RCPT TO:comunicacio...@remington.edu.co;jorgelopera.comunica...@gmail.com 553 5.1.3 comunicacio...@remington.edu.co;jorgelopera.comunica...@gmail.com... Invalid route address RCPT TO:comunicacio...@eia.edu.co 250 2.1.5 comunicacio...@eia.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:juliana.castri...@estean.edu.co 250 2.1.5 juliana.castri...@estean.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:maria.gale...@esap.edu.co 250 2.1.5 maria.gale...@esap.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:deboraarangorecto...@une.net.co 250 2.1.5 deboraarangorecto...@une.net.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:juan.me...@esumer.edu.co 644 bytes snipped ... RCPT TO:comunicacio...@fumc.edu.co 250 2.1.5 comunicacio...@fumc.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:juan.delosr...@ceipa.edu.co 250 2.1.5 juan.delosr...@ceipa.edu.co... Recipient ok RCPT TO:comunicad...@iue.edu.co 250 2.1.5 comunicad...@iue.edu.co... Recipient ok De antemanos gracias por su colaboracion. Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo Administrador de Sistemas Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales Universidad de Antioquia e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co cmc...@socrates.udea.edu.co Tel: ++57(4)2195604 Medellin - Colombia ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] es.centos.org
Si se trata de SOLO foro .. entonces apoyo al compañero ... Pero si también quieren poner noticas, encuestas, paginas perzonalizadas, calendario de eventos y el foro claro esta .. uno muy seguro es glfusion o geeklog que son unos delos CMS muy seguros de igual forma. Tengo experiencia en estos tipos de sistemas y son muy faciles de administrar. Bueno esta seria mi propuesta. Saludos !! -- I.S.C. William López Jiménez -- User Linux # 379636 MSN wljkoal...@hotmail.com Jabber koalas...@jabber.org Jaberreskoalas...@jabberes.org Web: http://www.koalasoftmx.net ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas con Openwebmai (URGENTE)
2009/9/17 Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co Hola Compañeros, alguien me podria colaborar pa ver com puedo resolver el siguiente error que se me genera al enviar el siguiente correo, el error es el siguiente: RCPT TO:comunicacio...@remington.edu.co; jorgelopera.comunica...@gmail.com 553 5.1.3 comunicacio...@remington.edu.co; jorgelopera.comunica...@gmail.com... Invalid route address No conozco Openwebmail, pero parece un error de sintaxis... deberá ser coma en lugar de punto y coma? -- Eduardo Grosclaude Universidad Nacional del Comahue Neuquen, Argentina ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Configuracion Servidor Centos 5.4
Estimados, gracias, Empiezo mi proceso de aprendizaje. John Carvajal El 17 de septiembre de 2009 02:37, Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, 2009/9/17 Mario Ganga mario.ga...@gmail.com Hola: Es un buen sitio donde empezar. http://www.alcancelibre.org/staticpages/index.php/manuales-indice Atte. 2009/9/16 John Alexander Carvajal Rios jacarva...@gmail.com Buenas tardes, De antemano les agradezco por la colaboracion que me puedan brindar. Me permito dirigirme a ustedes para ver si alguien me puede brindar un manual de configuracion del Centos 5.4 ya que no tengo conocimientos en el tema de administracion, y me han solicitado que debo configurar un hosting dedicado el cual no tiene instalado ningun servicio. La aplicacion esta hecha en drupal. De primera instancia necesito instalar los servicios de Apache Mysql y PHP, ademas de ello debo configurar un dominio existente a ese servidor. Les agradezco la colaboración prestada. Atentamente John Carvajal ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es broma Al final nos tendrá que pasar comisión el resp. de alcance libre, siempre recomendamos la misma... :) /broma Bromas a parte, es un muy buen punto para obtener información en castellano de CentOS. -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Buenas Tardes
Estimada Gisella Active Directory es una implementacion de microsoft, esta es una lista de Centos o sea de la vereda de enfrente. Si lo que quieres es emular un active directory en centos, debes buscar por how to ldap + samba. Atte. Mario Ganga Castro. 2009/9/16 Gisella Rojas Romero yashag...@gmail.com Gracias por reponder mi primera solicitud. estoy complicada con active directory, en la wed no encuentro un manual completo de la configuracion. cualquier ayuda, nos sirve. Saludos Gisella ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Buenas Tardes
El 17 de septiembre de 2009 11:11, Mario Ganga mario.ga...@gmail.comescribió: Estimada Gisella Active Directory es una implementacion de microsoft, esta es una lista de Centos o sea de la vereda de enfrente. Puede ser que ella se refiera a alguna implementación de AD en Linux, por ejemplo usar Samba como controlador de dominio de AD. Si lo que quieres es emular un active directory en centos, debes buscar por how to ldap + samba. Ah! mira, justo lo que estaba sugiiendo arriba :) RedHat directory server es un producto nuevo de RedHat y creo que ya esta disponible en CentOS (no muy seguro), este se puede sincronizar con AD. Atte. Mario Ganga Castro. 2009/9/16 Gisella Rojas Romero yashag...@gmail.com Gracias por reponder mi primera solicitud. estoy complicada con active directory, en la wed no encuentro un manual completo de la configuracion. ¿En la weed? jejeje ¿Que es lo que has buscado en la web? solo poner active directory centos 5 en Google, regresa muchos resultados, la mayoría en Ingles, pero bueno, trabajando en TI, el inglés es básico. cualquier ayuda, nos sirve. Entiendo que las presiones del trabajo son fuertes, cuando uno no sabe o esta aprendiendo un nuevo sistema operativo. Pero por favor, busca bien en Google antes de venir a preguntar cosas que son tan sencillas de resolver. Saludos Gisella Saludos Ernesto ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Configuracion Servidor Centos 5.4
Bienvenido! El 17 de septiembre de 2009 10:39, John Alexander Carvajal Rios jacarva...@gmail.com escribió: Estimados, gracias, Empiezo mi proceso de aprendizaje. Te sugiero visites http://wiki.centos.org/es/ antes de venir a preguntar a la lista, es más rápido. También http://www.centos.org/docs/ ahí estan los manueales del sistema y es donde podrías haber encontrado la respuesta a tu pregunta original. John Carvajal El 17 de septiembre de 2009 02:37, Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com escribió: 2009/9/17 Mario Ganga mario.ga...@gmail.com Es un buen sitio donde empezar. http://www.alcancelibre.org/staticpages/index.php/manuales-indice broma Al final nos tendrá que pasar comisión el resp. de alcance libre, siempre recomendamos la misma... :) /broma Si, hay buena información ahí, pero ahora que esta tomando fuerza la comunidad de habla hispana de CentOS, sería bueno empezar a contribuir cosas para la wiki ( http://wiki.centos.org/es/ )y proximamente es.centos.org y también dirigir a la gente hacia los canales oficiales de soporte. Bromas a parte, es un muy buen punto para obtener información en castellano de CentOS. -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo Saludos Ernesto ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problemas con Openwebmai (URGENTE)
El 17 de septiembre de 2009 09:52, Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co escribió: Hola Compañeros, alguien me podria colaborar pa ver com puedo resolver el siguiente error que se me genera al enviar el siguiente correo, el error es el siguiente: En primer lugar este no es un error, es la salida completa del log de tu servidor SMTP :) A ver, borremos una buena parte de esto... 553 5.1.3 comunicacio...@remington.edu.co; jorgelopera.comunica...@gmail.com... Invalid route address Aquí parece haber un problema, ¿Ya buscaste Invalid route address openwebmail en Google? A mi me regresa varios resultados y a ojo de pájaro, el problema parece ser un ; Borremos el resto del log... De antemanos gracias por su colaboracion. Antes de venir a preguntar: 1) Busca en google y en el sitio de CentOS http://wiki.centos.org/es/. 2) No pongas URGENTE en el tema del mensaje; personalmente no me importa si tu problema es urgente o no. Y las mayúsculas son de mala educación. 3) Openwebmail no es parte de CentOS, con gusto te ayudo, siempre y cuando tu problema sea con software incluido en la distribución. En CentOS no acostumbro instalar casi nada que no venga incluido; es difícil conseguir soporte del equipo de CentOS, cuando nos salimos de lo soportado. Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo Saludos Ernesto ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] es.centos.org
El 17 de septiembre de 2009 10:22, I.S.C. William Lopez Jimenez william.koalas...@gmail.com escribió: Si se trata de SOLO foro .. entonces apoyo al compañero ... Pero si también quieren poner noticas, encuestas, paginas perzonalizadas, calendario de eventos y el foro claro esta .. uno muy seguro es glfusion o geeklog que son unos delos CMS muy seguros de igual forma. Tengo experiencia en estos tipos de sistemas y son muy faciles de administrar. Bueno esta seria mi propuesta. ¿Asistieron a la reunión del 16 de Septiembre en irc.freenode.net#centos-es? Ahí se trataron estos temas, creo que se quedaron un poco atrasados en este hilo de conversación. Tanto Ernesto como Enrique estuvierón presentes y son parte (igual que un servidor) así como otros más; del esfuerzo por consolidar la comunidad hispano-hablante de CentOS. En http://centos-es.pastebin.com/f962b418 puede verse un resumen de lo acordado en la reunión. (por cierto, creo que deberíamos usar pastebin.centos.org -a sugerencia de Karanbir-, pero bueno lo dejo a su consideración) Con respecto a la plataforma para el sitio (CMS, foro, etc...) debe considerarse que el esfuerzo no es exclusivo para la comunidad centos-es, el plan del equipo de CentOS, es implementar una nueva plataforma web para *todo centos.org* y permitir los sub-sitios localizados (como es.centos.org), pero *todos* debemos usar lo mismo (misma plataforma, imagen, etc...). Los contenidos, obviamente son enfocaddos para cada comunidad, pero no se debe perder la identidad CentOS. Francia (o por lo menos quienes hablan frances) ya están trabajando en esto, pero parece que se atoraron un poco. Karanbir (del equipo de CentOS) propone que los hispano-hablantes presentemos una propuesta para el sitio, pero esto significa que deberemos apoyar a las demás comunidades en el momento que decidan iniciar su sub-sitio localizado. Entonces el asunto no es nada más de yo conozco tal o cual CMS o foro y lo pongo hay que comprometerse a trabajar en el nuevo sitio, presentar la idea al equipo de desarrollo de CentOS y en caso de ser aprobado trabajar con ellos en la implementación y migración de los contenidos actuales de centos.org (foros, wiki, etc...). Saludos !! -- I.S.C. William López Jiménez Saludos Ernesto ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Configuracion Servidor Centos 5.4
Hola, 2009/9/17 Ernesto Celis celisdelafue...@gmail.com Si, hay buena información ahí, pero ahora que esta tomando fuerza la comunidad de habla hispana de CentOS, sería bueno empezar a contribuir cosas para la wiki ( http://wiki.centos.org/es/ )y proximamente es.centos.org y también dirigir a la gente hacia los canales oficiales de soporte. ¿Canales oficiales? Entonces, ¿está lista que es? Creo que demasiada fuerza está tomando, demasiada :) -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Buenas Tardes
Hola, Ah! mira, justo lo que estaba sugiiendo arriba :) RedHat directory server es un producto nuevo de RedHat y creo que ya esta disponible en CentOS (no muy seguro), este se puede sincronizar con AD. Si está en CentOS y el upstream es el antiguo Fedora Directory Server que ahora se denomina 389 Directory Server. Gisella puedes encontrar info aquí http://directory.fedoraproject.org/ Entiendo que las presiones del trabajo son fuertes, cuando uno no sabe o esta aprendiendo un nuevo sistema operativo. Pero por favor, busca bien en Google antes de venir a preguntar cosas que son tan sencillas de resolver. Ernesto, te puedes creer que lo que más me gustaba de esta lista es no encontrar cosas como el párrafo anterior, a diferencia de otras listas. Cuesta los mismo escribir ese párrafo que indicar un link a la información que puede ayudar. Hace mucho que estoy en esta lista y siempre se ha ayudado a todo el mundo, aunque en la mayoría de ocasiones era evidente que en San Google estaba la solución. -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Buenas Tardes
El 17 de septiembre de 2009 16:43, Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, Entiendo que las presiones del trabajo son fuertes, cuando uno no sabe o esta aprendiendo un nuevo sistema operativo. Pero por favor, busca bien en Google antes de venir a preguntar cosas que son tan sencillas de resolver. Ernesto, te puedes creer que lo que más me gustaba de esta lista es no encontrar cosas como el párrafo anterior, a diferencia de otras listas. Si, lo creo. No soy mala persona, pero si tengo modos que no le agradan a más de uno. También estoy en otras listas, tal véz de esas otras vienen mis malos modos :) Solo ignorenme cuando no les agrade. Cuesta los mismo escribir ese párrafo que indicar un link a la información que puede ayudar. Hace mucho que estoy en esta lista y siempre se ha ayudado a todo el mundo, aunque en la mayoría de ocasiones era evidente que en San Google estaba la solución. Cuesta lo mismo si, pero... :D También me gusta ayudar y también a más de uno he ayudado, solo es mi forma de ser. No se ofendan. Hace unos días precisamente comentaba de esto en privado con epe en #centos-es -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo Saludos Ernesto ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Configuracion Servidor Centos 5.4
Hola, 2009/9/17 Ernesto Celis celisdelafue...@gmail.com Si, hay buena información ahí, pero ahora que esta tomando fuerza la comunidad de habla hispana de CentOS, sería bueno empezar a contribuir cosas para la wiki ( http://wiki.centos.org/es/ )y proximamente es.centos.org y también dirigir a la gente hacia los canales oficiales de soporte. ¿Canales oficiales? Entonces, ¿está lista que es? Creo que demasiada fuerza está tomando, demasiada :) -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo Hola Oscar, yo entiendo que lo que quiere manifestar Ernesto es propender a aconsejar en nuestras respuestas la utilización de la Wiki en español, la documentación oficial de CentOS, canal IRC español, etc., en subsidio de recomendar otros sitios, que sin desmerecer su utilidad, nos obligarán a todos a esforzarnos por lograr contar con información en nuestro idioma en los lugares, valga la redundancia, 'oficiales'. Pienso que sí está, como tu bien dices, tomando demasiada fuerza y justamente eso es lo que estamos tratando de lograr, para lo cual también nos interesaría contar con tu valiosa ayuda. Un cordial saludo -- Enrique Quezada R. Linux Counter #417515 Freenode #centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Configuracion Servidor Centos 5.4
Hola, 2009/9/18 Enrique Quezada equez...@kike.ath.cx Pienso que sí está, como tu bien dices, tomando demasiada fuerza y justamente eso es lo que estamos tratando de lograr, para lo cual también nos interesaría contar con tu valiosa ayuda. Podeis contar con ella, como hasta ahora. Recuerdo que hace unos años un fabricante de neumáticos anunciaba sus productos con el eslogan la potencia sin control no tiene sentido :) -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Configuracion Servidor Centos 5.4
Pienso que sí está, como tu bien dices, tomando demasiada fuerza y justamente eso es lo que estamos tratando de lograr, para lo cual también nos interesaría contar con tu valiosa ayuda. Podeis contar con ella, como hasta ahora. Recuerdo que hace unos años un fabricante de neumáticos anunciaba sus productos con el eslogan la potencia sin control no tiene sentido :) :D Entonces unámosnos y pongamos el correcto y necesario control. -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo Un abrazo Oscar y gracias por tu disposición, estaremos en contacto. -- Enrique Quezada R. Linux Counter #417515 Freenode #centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] es.centos.org
¿Asistieron a la reunión del 16 de Septiembre en irc.freenode.net#centos-es? No la verdad no, esta con junto con mi familia disfrutando del recalentado de la comida de las fiestas patrias. Ahí se trataron estos temas, creo que se quedaron un poco atrasados en este hilo de conversación. Tanto Ernesto como Enrique estuvierón presentes y son parte (igual que un servidor) así como otros más; del esfuerzo por consolidar la comunidad hispano-hablante de CentOS. En http://centos-es.pastebin.com/f962b418 puede verse un resumen de lo acordado en la reunión. (por cierto, creo que deberíamos usar pastebin.centos.org -a sugerencia de Karanbir-, pero bueno lo dejo a su consideración) Con respecto a la plataforma para el sitio (CMS, foro, etc...) debe considerarse que el esfuerzo no es exclusivo para la comunidad centos-es, el plan del equipo de CentOS, es implementar una nueva plataforma web para *todo centos.org* y permitir los sub-sitios localizados (como es.centos.org), pero *todos* debemos usar lo mismo (misma plataforma, imagen, etc...). Los contenidos, obviamente son enfocaddos para cada comunidad, pero no se debe perder la identidad CentOS. Bueno de ser asi seria bien poner una descara del sistema que se esta utilizando para el que quiera aportar ideas o modulos nuevos hacerlo en la practica y ya terminada presentarlo. Francia (o por lo menos quienes hablan frances) ya están trabajando en esto, pero parece que se atoraron un poco. Karanbir (del equipo de CentOS) propone que los hispano-hablantes presentemos una propuesta para el sitio, pero esto significa que deberemos apoyar a las demás comunidades en el momento que decidan iniciar su sub-sitio localizado. Entonces el asunto no es nada más de yo conozco tal o cual CMS o foro y lo pongo hay que comprometerse a trabajar en el nuevo sitio, presentar la idea al equipo de desarrollo de CentOS y en caso de ser aprobado trabajar con ellos en la implementación y migración de los contenidos actuales de centos.org(foros, wiki, etc...). Pues a lo mismo, si se basan en un CMS o en uno ya existente, tener la fuentes para poder crear modulos, mejoras o X cosas y despues presentarlas, creo que teniendo las bases se puede aportar mas. Saludos Ernesto ___ Saludos!! -- I.S.C. William López Jiménez -- User Linux # 379636 MSN wljkoal...@hotmail.com Jabber koalas...@jabber.org Jaberreskoalas...@jabberes.org Web: http://www.koalasoftmx.net ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Configuracion Servidor Centos 5.4
El 17 de septiembre de 2009 16:27, Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, 2009/9/17 Ernesto Celis celisdelafue...@gmail.com Si, hay buena información ahí, pero ahora que esta tomando fuerza la comunidad de habla hispana de CentOS, sería bueno empezar a contribuir cosas para la wiki ( http://wiki.centos.org/es/ )y proximamente es.centos.org y también dirigir a la gente hacia los canales oficiales de soporte. ¿Canales oficiales? Entonces, ¿está lista que es? Jajaja, por eso puse oficiales con comillas. Con oficiales, me refiero a los auspiciados por CentOS al permitir hacer uso de su infraestructura (como esta lista por ejemplo) Ahora, no dije que dejen de sugerir Alcance Libre, solo que hay que nutrir más centos.org Creo que demasiada fuerza está tomando, demasiada :) Con está tomando fuerza, me refiero a que hay más comunicación entre los usuarios hispano-hablantes. Uso CentOS desde hace 4 años (desde Centos 4.3), más o menos; cuando tengo que trabajar en proyectos que requieren Oracle, TIBCO o alguna de esas soluciones Enterprise, por lo tanto no soy muy experimentado en los asuntos de RAID y VM's por ejemplo. Pero me agrada poder involucrarme y apoyar las comunidades relacionadas al software que utilizo (también hago donaciones económicas cuando puedo). Particularmente me he involucrado en CentOS-es casi por accidente, tal vez más de lo que a algunos les gustaría; dado mi mal carácter. No me refiero a ti Oscar,lo digo en general. Nno pretendo imponer mis ideas, solo me expreso tal y como soy en persona, si no les agrada bien; seguiré participando en estos canales de soporte. Si no estan de acuerdo en que me involucre tanto en la comunidad, díganlo sin temores, que sabré entender. -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo Saludos Ernesto ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] Where to download rpm packages for centos?
I think you're in for a tough road. Try buying the sysadmin flowers. Flowers? I'd thought a R/C helicopter might get somewhere. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where to download rpm packages for centos?
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:33:12PM -0500, Peng Yu wrote: For example, I am looking for imlib-config. Do you know where I can download its source package. You can try general purpose RPM finders, like: http://rpm.pbone.net/ for both binary and source search and download. Try your luck by selecting CentOS5, RHEL5, Fedora 6. Mihai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS
2009/9/16 Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org: On 09/16/2009 06:27 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: If we were having wild beer parties every week . *WHAT* beer parties ? Where ? When ? will there be food as well ? They are all located in Texas, so we have to cover traveling costs first :) Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where to download rpm packages for centos?
Peng Yu wrote: The problem is that I don't have the root account. Our system administrator doesn't update the system because of the excuse of keeping the machine stable. Therefore, I have to install packages in my home directory. As far as I know, I can not run yum without root permission. But at least I should be able to run rpm without root permission. That is why I asked the original question. give your administrator (and his boss, if need be) a list of the specific software you need installed to do your job, then, and let him install it for you. since he's not keeping the system secure, I'm not sure what he is needed for at all, otherwise. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where to download rpm packages for centos?
Christopher Chan wrote: I think you're in for a tough road. Try buying the sysadmin flowers. Flowers? I'd thought a R/C helicopter might get somewhere. well since your system is still C5.0 you could always use that good old vmsplice exploit and become root to install your packages discreetly ;-) I deny it all. I didn't say that, someone's pretending to be me. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dependency problem between cman and openais with last cman update
Le 16 sept. 2009 à 22:51, Karanbir Singh a écrit : On 09/16/2009 03:33 PM, Miguel Sanchez wrote: Hi. Today I have updated my cluster installation with the version cman-2.0.115-1 through yum update. When I have started the cman service , it fails. I've added this issue : http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3842 And published openais packages that should address the issue, could someone with the issue test those and let us know asap. Reporting back on the issue tracker reporting back on the mailing list thanks -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Sorry, but I wont test that : all my cman servers are part of clusters in production and I will not do any test with part of packages being 5.3 based and other 5.4 based because it means I am doing the QA stuff under in product environments. We are using Centos because it is synchronised with the QA process of the upstream enterprise. With your new policie, we now have several cases : A) Release x.y that is sync with upstream we only drawback for me is that there is 1-3 days of delay between the release of a patch from upstream and the integration into centos. But for most of us this is OK. If not, we can always buy the original product from upstream. B) Release x.(y+1) from upstream, not yet validated under centos When upstream create a dot subversion, there is always a long time (10-90 days) in order for the centos project to recompile and revalidate all the packages and process. This is a well known issue of this process and I hope we can stay under 30 days if possible in order to keep the credibility of the project, and it seams there are some improvements under way to keep this goal. In that case, there is a gap of 10 to 90 days under which several security patches may be issued but not installed under our Centos servers. Once more, if we want the real upstream support, we have to buy it from upstream and not complain from centos. Once centos issue the new x.(y+1) version, we are back in case A). C) The new policy of centos x.y + security patches of upstream x.(y+1) In that case, we are in a situation where the system is not a x.y version and not a x.(y+1) version. At least we may get dependencies issues (for example cman/openais case), but also stability issues (for example new kernel with older user land tools). We get a system that is not in sync with upstream QA (the main reason people choose Centos is to be in sync with upstream QA without paying for it !). I understand that issuing the patches of upstream x.(y+1) to be installed under centos x.y is an attempts to close the gap of case B). But the problem is that the way you have done it will move all people from a well known state (A) to an unkown state (C) without warning. I think a better approach would have been to propose theses new security patch under an optional repository and not the update one. And don't misunderstand : I am very pleased with centos, and I just add my 2 cents in order to improve it ! Regards, -- Alain RICHARD mailto:alain.rich...@equation.fr EQUATION SA http://www.equation.fr/ Tel : +33 477 79 48 00 Fax : +33 477 79 48 01 E-Liance, Opérateur des entreprises et collectivités, Liaisons Fibre optique, SDSL et ADSL http://www.e-liance.fr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem.
I've got about a dozen machines which are running the -164 kernel in the dom0 with about 20 VM's running various kernels under there for i386 and x86_64 with no problems. your problem is most likely caused due to issues in the non CentOS components. Thanks for the response. Where did you get the hypervisor from and what version are you running? Thx again. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem.
On 09/17/2009 08:39 AM, Ian Murray wrote: Where did you get the hypervisor from and what version are you running? This is the CentOs list, and I tend to run my stuff as close to the distro tree as possible. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Dependency problem between cman and openais with last cman update
On 09/17/2009 08:37 AM, Alain RICHARD wrote: I think a better approach would have been to propose theses new security patch under an optional repository and not the update one. This is one approach that we can try for the future, the main issue at hand is also that these are all security updates. Also, keep in mind that most of the 5.X.Y stuff has little or no relevance once you have installed the machine - few people run 'yum -y update' from a 6 hourly cron job. Most people tend to move along a tested line. There should not be anything in the package tree's that creates any of the issues that you mention - if there are, its bad packaging. If Ver X of pkgA needs Ver = Z of pkg B to work, that should be reflected in the package manifests at the rpm level. btw, this 'upstream QA' thing you speak of - are you sure it exists ? :) -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where to download rpm packages for centos?
On 17/09/09 08:12, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: I think you're in for a tough road. Try buying the sysadmin flowers. Flowers? I'd thought a R/C helicopter might get somewhere. well since your system is still C5.0 you could always use that good old vmsplice exploit and become root to install your packages discreetly ;-) I deny it all. I didn't say that, someone's pretending to be me. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Actually, that may not be a bad idea for him to do. If he does that, he could then prove to his very lazy (So it seems) SYS Admin that the systems are simply no longer secure, and thus getting him to upgrade them. But on the other hand it may get him the sack for breaking into the systems. Hmm. However, I don't see how letting a system become very out of date, will keep it stable, if anything it could cause more problems. -- Jake ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where to download rpm packages for centos?
Peng Yu a écrit : Our system administrator doesn't update the system because of the excuse of keeping the machine stable. Does he also avoid to take showers in order to stay clean? :o) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] kernel-PAE-2.6.18-164.el5 bonding problem
hi, bonding does not work when booting kernel-PAE-2.6.18-164.el5 module load failed on unresolved symbols Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol ndisc_build_skb Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol in6_dev_finish_destroy Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol ndisc_send_skb Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol unregister_inet6addr_notifier Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol register_inet6addr_notifier looks like ipv6.ko isn't load automatically. ipv6 is disabled. # chkconfig --list ip6tables ip6tables 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off #cat /etc/modprobpe.conf alias scsi_hostadapter cciss alias eth0 bnx2 alias eth1 bnx2 alias bond0 bonding options bonding mode=1 miimon=100 options ipv6 disable=1 #cat /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes NETWORKING_IPV6=no thx ulrich ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where to download rpm packages for centos?
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu mtl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:33:12PM -0500, Peng Yu wrote: For example, I am looking for imlib-config. Do you know where I can download its source package. You can try general purpose RPM finders, like: http://rpm.pbone.net/ for both binary and source search and download. Try your luck by selecting CentOS5, RHEL5, Fedora 6. What should that buy him? If he cannot install rpms from the official and affiliated repositories, he won't have any luck to install those either. Without being root that is. Ralph ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] kernel-PAE-2.6.18-164.el5 bonding problem
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Ulrich Leodolter ulrich.leodol...@obvsg.at wrote: hi, bonding does not work when booting kernel-PAE-2.6.18-164.el5 module load failed on unresolved symbols Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol ndisc_build_skb Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol in6_dev_finish_destroy Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol ndisc_send_skb Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol unregister_inet6addr_notifier Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol register_inet6addr_notifier Can you please file a bug at http://bugs.centos.org/? Cheers, Ralph ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] kernel-PAE-2.6.18-164.el5 bonding problem
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:55 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Ulrich Leodolter ulrich.leodol...@obvsg.at wrote: hi, bonding does not work when booting kernel-PAE-2.6.18-164.el5 module load failed on unresolved symbols Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol ndisc_build_skb Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol in6_dev_finish_destroy Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol ndisc_send_skb Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol unregister_inet6addr_notifier Sep 17 11:36:53 monitor kernel: bonding: Unknown symbol register_inet6addr_notifier Can you please file a bug at http://bugs.centos.org/? http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=3845 Gruß Ulrich Cheers, Ralph ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem.
Where did you get the hypervisor from and what version are you running? This is the CentOs list, and I tend to run my stuff as close to the distro tree as possible. Then that might be why we are having different experiences with the new kernel. I'll take it to the Xen list. Thanks for the info. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Bind 9.3.4-10.P1.el5_3.3 check-names and underscores
Updating old CentOS 4 DNS servers to CentOS 5, one of our zones has a number of entries with underscores in. Starting named results in the following error and named refusing to start. masters/example.com.db:33: mail_server.example.com: bad owner name (check-names) I've tried including check-names master ignore; in the options but this isn't making any difference. I've read a lot of debate on whether underscores should be allowed, but for the time being we're stuck with these entries so I need to get this working. Any thoughts? Thanks, jc ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] problem installing CentOS 5.3
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Buz Davis buzda...@earthlink.net wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 Akemi Yagi wrote You need the i586 kernel for the AMD K6 machines. Bad news is CentOS 5 does not support it. Good news is CentOS 4 supports it. Visit http://i586.centos.org/centos/4/ and you will find what is required to boot your system. Once booted, type 'linux i586' to start the installation. Thanks for the information. I did visit the link and found what I interpreted as a replacement iso for the first disk of 4. Did I misinterpret something ? I downloaded disks 2 through 4 from the Ga. Tech mirror and burned them as well, all apparently without error. However, when I attempted to run a media check from i586 text nousb the first disk passed but the others resulted in unable to find install image on /tmp/cdrom (or something close to that, I am quoting from memory). I looked at the disks and they appear to be OK, and I burned them with the same commands I used for disk 1. Does this mean I needed to gets disks 2 through 4 elsewhere ? Only disk 1 of the set was on the link I visited. Did you download disks 2 to 4 for CentOS 4.8? Can you check the hash values of the iso flles? Also, if you have a reasonably good connection to the net, you can try a net install by booting from disk 1. Akemi ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] New sshd_config - what has changed?
I see that there is a new sshd_config in the latest updates. Since I have altered the original file, this one got installed as .rpmnew It has two changes: #AddressFamily any So does this make it default to IPv4 only? #ChrootDirectory none Chroot is now an option for SSH? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] New sshd_config - what has changed?
See man sshd_config #AddressFamily any Valid arguments are 'any', 'inet' (use IPv4 only) or 'inet6' (use IPv6 only) #ChrootDirectory none Specifies a path to chroot to after authentication. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: I see that there is a new sshd_config in the latest updates. Since I have altered the original file, this one got installed as .rpmnew It has two changes: #AddressFamily any So does this make it default to IPv4 only? #ChrootDirectory none Chroot is now an option for SSH? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] updating rpm
Hello, I'm looking for an updated version of rpm itself. The minimum version i need is 4.4.2.3-15.el5.x86_64 though i'd assume anything after that would work as well. Thanks. Dave. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] updating rpm
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Dave dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm looking for an updated version of rpm itself. The minimum version i need is 4.4.2.3-15.el5.x86_64 though i'd assume anything after that would work as well. I guess you need to wait for 5.4 then or rebuild the SRPM for 5.4 yourself. Ralph ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] New sshd_config - what has changed?
Vinicius Coque wrote: See man sshd_config #AddressFamily any Valid arguments are 'any', 'inet' (use IPv4 only) or 'inet6' (use IPv6 only) Perviously this was uncommented, so now it is running on the default... #ChrootDirectory none Specifies a path to chroot to after authentication. This line was not even present before. So it is still running on the default. But since it was added, is this a new option? On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I see that there is a new sshd_config in the latest updates. Since I have altered the original file, this one got installed as .rpmnew It has two changes: #AddressFamily any So does this make it default to IPv4 only? #ChrootDirectory none Chroot is now an option for SSH? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org mailto:CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Bind 9.3.4-10.P1.el5_3.3 check-names and underscores
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:14 PM, John Clement j...@m4-p.com wrote: Updating old CentOS 4 DNS servers to CentOS 5, one of our zones has a number of entries with underscores in. Starting named results in the following error and named refusing to start. masters/example.com.db:33: mail_server.example.com: bad owner name (check-names) I've tried including check-names master ignore; in the options but this isn't making any difference. I've read a lot of debate on whether underscores should be allowed, but for the time being we're stuck with these entries so I need to get this working. Any thoughts? Yes, don't use check-names or set it to warn. See chapter 06 of the ARM. Or drop those names (although RFC 2181 allows those in labels, but it also makes clear, that not any label must be allowed as a host name). Ralph ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] url for srpm?
Hi, Are the srpms for the up coming 5.4 out? I'd like to rebuild one for rpm. Thanks. Dave. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] url for srpm?
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Dave dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Are the srpms for the up coming 5.4 out? I'd like to rebuild one for rpm. Yeah, they all are on ftp.redhat.com. Ralph ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] New sshd_config - what has changed?
Yes, it is a new option, since it was added. ChrootDirectory is a new feature introduced in OpenSSH 4.9 On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Vinicius Coque wrote: See man sshd_config #AddressFamily any Valid arguments are 'any', 'inet' (use IPv4 only) or 'inet6' (use IPv6 only) Perviously this was uncommented, so now it is running on the default... #ChrootDirectory none Specifies a path to chroot to after authentication. This line was not even present before. So it is still running on the default. But since it was added, is this a new option? On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com mailto:r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I see that there is a new sshd_config in the latest updates. Since I have altered the original file, this one got installed as .rpmnew It has two changes: #AddressFamily any So does this make it default to IPv4 only? #ChrootDirectory none Chroot is now an option for SSH? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org mailto:CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Bind 9.3.4-10.P1.el5_3.3 check-names and underscores
Yes, don't use check-names or set it to warn. See chapter 06 of the ARM.
Or drop those names (although RFC 2181 allows those in labels, but it
also makes clear, that not any label must be allowed as a host name).
And herein lies the problem, this version of Bind seems to ignore the
check-names option...
options {
version REFUSED;
directory /var/named;
check-names master ignore;
...
that _should_ disable named checking the names and therefore refusing to
load, should it not?
thanks, jc
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Re: [CentOS] No login with kernel 2.6.18-164.el5
Olaf Mueller wrote: Olaf Mueller wrote: since kernel 2.6.18-164.el5 no user could login any more from nfs client into his home directory Now reported on CentOS Bug Tracker #0003840. Here are some more information and a workaround. This is a know major flaw as reported on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522163. Since the previous kernel 2.6.18-128.7.1.el5 is not up to date with security fixes and the current kernel 2.6.18-164.el5 isn't usable as a nfs server, I have installed kernel 2.6.18-165.el5.jtltest.87, you will find it in the bug report, as a workaround. This is not optimal cause I think this is a testing kernel for RHEL 5.5 (not 5.4!), but it seems to me the best choice as a kernel under CentOS 5.3 at the moment if you are running an nfs server. And only the nfs server needs this kernel to work, the clients can stay with the current kernel 2.6.18-164.el5. regards Olaf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Bind 9.3.4-10.P1.el5_3.3 check-names and underscores
Yes, don't use check-names or set it to warn. See chapter 06 of the ARM. Or drop those names (although RFC 2181 allows those in labels, but it also makes clear, that not any label must be allowed as a host name). My Bad! I missed a 'file not found' error in the output. Fixed that and named starts. Thanks for taking the time to reply... [slinks off into corner] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] sadc output to a circular file of given size?
You could use logger and configure logrotate accordingly. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where to download rpm packages for centos?
I am looking for some user level packages, such as icewm, openoffice. icewm? You logon through the terminal and so can choose your window manager? Otherwise, you can more or less forget it... Oy, as they say, vey. I just went from opensuse 10.3 to centos 5.3. Building icewm was a *royal* pain. There were a number of libraries it wanted, and, IIRC, I had to manually create backward links (ln - s libsomethingorother.so.4 libsomethingorother.so.2 mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] New sshd_config - what has changed?
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I see that there is a new sshd_config in the latest updates. Since I have altered the original file, this one got installed as .rpmnew It has two changes: #AddressFamily any So does this make it default to IPv4 only? Depending upon the version of OpenSSH ( I built OpenSSH 5.2p1 from source) I ended up having to set AddressFamily inet in order to use IPV4 and X11 forwarding - presumably to avoid IPV6 high jacking of the X11 connection. #ChrootDirectory none Chroot is now an option for SSH? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- We are drowning in information and starving for knowledge. -- Rutherford D. Roger ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where to download rpm packages for centos?
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I am looking for some user level packages, such as icewm, openoffice. icewm? You logon through the terminal and so can choose your window manager? Otherwise, you can more or less forget it... Oy, as they say, vey. I just went from opensuse 10.3 to centos 5.3. Building icewm was a *royal* pain. There were a number of libraries it wanted, and, IIRC, I had to manually create backward links (ln - s libsomethingorother.so.4 libsomethingorother.so.2 was something wrong with the version in rmpforge? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] sendpage package
Is sendpage or some other alphanumeric paging program available from one of the repos for CentOS 5? I've checked rpmforge and epel. I just wanted to check to see if it might be available somewhere else before I resort to building from source. -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Can not remind my password for mailing list
Password reminder dont work. No mail in my inbox:((( Is there any other method to unsubscribe via email? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] sendpage package
Is sendpage or some other alphanumeric paging program available from one of the repos for CentOS 5? I've checked rpmforge and epel. I just wanted to check to see if it might be available somewhere else before I resort to building from source. Hylafax is in rpmforge and contains a sendpage implementation. (maybe overkill, but you get alphanumeric paging and fax handling :-)) -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] No login with kernel 2.6.18-164.el5
Olaf Mueller wrote: Olaf Mueller wrote: Olaf Mueller wrote: since kernel 2.6.18-164.el5 no user could login any more from nfs client into his home directory Now reported on CentOS Bug Tracker #0003840. Here are some more information and a workaround. This is a know major flaw as reported on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522163. Since the previous kernel 2.6.18-128.7.1.el5 is not up to date with security fixes and the current kernel 2.6.18-164.el5 isn't usable as a nfs server, I have installed kernel 2.6.18-165.el5.jtltest.87, you will find it in the bug report, as a workaround. This is not optimal cause I think this is a testing kernel for RHEL 5.5 (not 5.4!), but it seems to me the best choice as a kernel under CentOS 5.3 at the moment if you are running an nfs server. And only the nfs server needs this kernel to work, the clients can stay with the current kernel 2.6.18-164.el5. regards Olaf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Am I missing something here? We use and love CentOS for its stability and the fact(?) that the upstream provider does extensive QA(?) Now we have a major regression in the 5.4 kernel and the proposal in the bug fix is wait until 5.5 for the patch? or do it yourself - something I do not look forward to doing. Is someone dropping the ball or am I over-reacting? Rob attachment: rkampen.vcf___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem.
Ian Murray escribió: I've got about a dozen machines which are running the -164 kernel in the dom0 with about 20 VM's running various kernels under there for i386 and x86_64 with no problems. your problem is most likely caused due to issues in the non CentOS components. Thanks for the response. Where did you get the hypervisor from and what version are you running? Thx again. I have updated my cluster nodes having Xen vm's and now they have your same configuration. The only issue was to introduce the param use_virsh=0 in the cluster configuration, but booting vm's not controlled by software cluster (with xm create) worked without problems. -- Miguel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] sendpage package
Stephen Harris wrote: Is sendpage or some other alphanumeric paging program available from one of the repos for CentOS 5? I've checked rpmforge and epel. I just wanted to check to see if it might be available somewhere else before I resort to building from source. Hylafax is in rpmforge and contains a sendpage implementation. (maybe overkill, but you get alphanumeric paging and fax handling :-)) I saw the filename match for sendpage in Hylafax, but I wasn't sure if this was the the alphanumeric pager application or something to do with the fax service. Does the Hylafax sendpage implementation include the SNPP listener? -- Bowie ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] No login with kernel 2.6.18-164.el5
Rob Kampen wrote: Olaf Mueller wrote: Olaf Mueller wrote: Olaf Mueller wrote: I think this is a testing kernel for RHEL 5.5 (not 5.4!), but it seems to me the best choice as a kernel under CentOS 5.3 at the moment if you are running an nfs server. And only the nfs server needs this kernel to work, the clients can stay with the current kernel 2.6.18-164.el5. Am I missing something here? We use and love CentOS for its stability and the fact(?) that the upstream provider does extensive QA(?) Now we have a major regression in the 5.4 kernel and the proposal in the bug fix is wait until 5.5 for the patch? or do it yourself - something I do not look forward to doing. Is someone dropping the ball or am I over-reacting? This is a very unlucky situation, yes. But in my opinion, it is not a CentOS problem. We are only suffering under the missing of a nfs working kernel from RedHat. CentOS is based on RHEL that itself has no better kernel at the moment. But I must confess that I am astounded about this all. regards Olaf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] No login with kernel 2.6.18-164.el5
On 09/17/2009 03:28 PM, Olaf Mueller wrote: This is a know major flaw as reported on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522163. Since the previous kernel 2.6.18-128.7.1.el5 is not up to date with security fixes and the current kernel 2.6.18-164.el5 isn't usable as a nfs server, Olaf, Thanks for (a) finding it (b) suffering with it and (c) talking about it. Could you make a note to check that when we release 5.4, these details are mentioned in the Release Notes in the known issues section ? Thanks -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] No login with kernel 2.6.18-164.el5
Olaf Mueller wrote: This is a very unlucky situation, yes. But in my opinion, it is not a CentOS problem. We are only suffering under the missing of a nfs working kernel from RedHat. CentOS is based on RHEL that itself has no better kernel at the moment. But I must confess that I am astounded about this all. From the looks of the bug it seems specific to NFSv4 or is it NFS in general? Can't imagine using NFSv4 myself, so I imagine it probably doesn't impact many users. At least it's easy to roll back to an earlier kernel! nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Can not remind my password for mailing list
Alexander Bykov wrote: Password reminder dont work. No mail in my inbox:((( Is there any other method to unsubscribe via email? Sending a message to centos-unsubscr...@centos.org should work. You should receive an e-mail asking you to confirm your request. Just reply to the message leaving the subject line intact. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] sendpage package
On Thursday 17 September 2009 12:23, Bowie Bailey wrote: Is sendpage or some other alphanumeric paging program available from one of the repos for CentOS 5? I've checked rpmforge and epel. I just wanted to check to see if it might be available somewhere else before I resort to building from source. Distributed as a tar file www.sendpage.org. Are you sending to pagers or cell phones? I just echo a message and pipe it to mail cellpho...@cellcarrier.com and that work to get text messages to cell phones. pgpW3vaxaXNyj.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS
- Original Message From: Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:15:59 PM Subject: Re: [CentOS] [Found] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS On 09/16/2009 06:27 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: If we were having wild beer parties every week . *WHAT* beer parties ? Where ? When ? will there be food as well ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos huh...wait a minute Karanbir has a sense of humor? :-D ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS
On: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:27:02 -0500, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote: I STILL do not understand why anyone would care what CentOS does with money donated by people who used the product and wanted to donate. If we were having wild beer parties every week ... as long as the packages are built, compared, signed, and released on time, what difference does it make? If you don't trust the organization, then how in the world do you use it's software. If you do trust the software, then what difference does it make how money is spent or saved? You trust us enough to use our software for free ... but not enough to donate? Then so be it ... that is what open source is all about. But open source is NOT about the users running the company. It is about software freedom. You display a naive point of view respecting why people choose to volunteer, whether it be in the form of time, money or things. I suggest that you seriously consider whether you, yourself, would care to donate money to a project where you knew from the outset that few, if any of, the funds collected were employed to improve the project in any tangible way. Your motive to donate would be what, exactly? Resources are limited and therefor they are directed according to the values held by the people doing the directing. If donated money is spent on parties, drugs, houses, entertainment, or otherwise personally enriching individuals rather than advancing the cause for which it is directed then why would one not choose to simply spend this on oneself instead? If not that then why not at least direct it towards some project where it might make a positive difference? There is another point to consider. Governments take a very, very dim view of tax evasion. Who or what is declaring the income from and remitting the taxes on donations? What taxes have been remitted on past donations, and where? I think that you will find that individuals associated with putting CentOS out are themselves liable for income earned and not declared if there is not some systematic mechanism in place to ensure compliance with the applicable laws. Be assured that such laws do exist and are enforced in each and every country that the maintainers reside in. The Internet is not terra nullius. If you provide a product or service and accept valuable consideration in return then you have earned income. It is tempting, and emotionally satisfying, to argue that cannot be so, that there is no relationship between the two because one is not compelled to buy CentOS. Sadly, this proves not to be the case. If you get income from any source, for whatever reason, then you must declare it and pay whatever tax is levied. Whether you received it personally or as part of an identifiable collective you are personally liable. Now, what happens if some, or many, or all of the CentOS maintainers ends up dealing with say one, or two or N taxation authorities over the small matter of the taxes outstanding on the thousands of Euros already donated? What happens then to the future of the CentOS project? What happens to the probability of a successful successor project? Somehow, I do not think that such a turn of events would improve the odds. Trust, well that is another matter. The number of sports clubs, churches, charities and service organisations that have been ripped off by individuals who betrayed their fellow members' trust is uncountable. No doubt most, if not all, of these people once warranted the trust reposed in them. However, as the Bernie Madoff case shows once again, trust without verification invites betrayal. Money is a very corrosive material to place in the hands of people absent public oversight. It needs to be treated with both caution and circumspection lest it destroy that which it is intended to aid. That is why some people very much care about how it is handled. -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Harte Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] No login with kernel 2.6.18-164.el5
Hi, On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 13:09, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote: At least it's easy to roll back to an earlier kernel! Yeah, if you can afford to live with unpatched security issues... But then, what is really the point of using an enterprise linux distro? Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] No login with kernel 2.6.18-164.el5
Filipe Brandenburger wrote: Hi, On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 13:09, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote: At least it's easy to roll back to an earlier kernel! Yeah, if you can afford to live with unpatched security issues... But then, what is really the point of using an enterprise linux distro? For me mostly stability. I have roughly 75 older systems that are still running RHEL 4.0 Update 1(used to be over 400, slowly widdling that number down). In my case at least we can afford to live with unpatched security issues for a time, as the environment around the systems protects them for the most part. Also quite a few windows 2000 boxes still around many of which haven't had updates in eons. It was just last month that we got rid of what I think was the last RHEL 3.0 Update 3 systems that we had, looks like they probably weren't updated since they got installed in 2004...oh wait now that I look there is 1 more.. For us, an up-to-date CentOS 5.2(last updated shortly before 5.3 was released) is bleeding edge! nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] sendpage package
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:43:41PM -0400, Bowie Bailey wrote: Stephen Harris wrote: Hylafax is in rpmforge and contains a sendpage implementation. (maybe overkill, but you get alphanumeric paging and fax handling :-)) I saw the filename match for sendpage in Hylafax, but I wasn't sure if this was the the alphanumeric pager application or something to do with the fax service. Does the Hylafax sendpage implementation include the SNPP listener? sendpage is an snpp client. The hylafax hfaxd daemon contains an SNPP listener if a pagermap is configured. % ps -ef | grep snpp uucp 4721 1 0 Aug09 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/hfaxd -s snpp -i hylafax (This allows you to have multiple clients on different machines all talking to a central pager server) -- rgds Stephen ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Confusion about 32 vs 64 bit jre
I ran a yum update yesterday and got the new kernel and other goodies, and I've rebooted and all seems to be well. Except, I just tried to run Firefox for the first time, and it wants a new jre (6.16). Now that's fine, except that I have a recollection of needing the 32-bit jre the last time I did this, but that's not working. I'm pulling down the 64-bit version, but I'm wondering if I need both, which, IIRC, does not work, or which one of the two? (I _am_ running the x86_64 OS and most apps.) What bothers me is that I've tried both, and apparently neither one works (). I installed by downloading the bin file (self-extracting rpm), and then running the bin with sudo. Where did I go wrong? mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Confusion about 32 vs 64 bit jre
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:32 PM, MHR mhullr...@gmail.com wrote: I ran a yum update yesterday and got the new kernel and other goodies, and I've rebooted and all seems to be well. Except, I just tried to run Firefox for the first time, and it wants a new jre (6.16). Now that's fine, except that I have a recollection of needing the 32-bit jre the last time I did this, but that's not working. I'm pulling down the 64-bit version, but I'm wondering if I need both, which, IIRC, does not work, or which one of the two? (I _am_ running the x86_64 OS and most apps.) What bothers me is that I've tried both, and apparently neither one works (). I installed by downloading the bin file (self-extracting rpm), and then running the bin with sudo. Where did I go wrong? Solved: The installation does not automatically update the mozilla plugins directory, which (apparently) must be updated manually. Foo. mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] program to hide X11 windows
hi all I am looking for a program that will hide a window when it opens under X11. There is a program called devilspie but it requires gnome-panel to be running to work. On some of my workstations I dont have gnome-panel running. So I was wondering if there is a program like devilspie that does not require gnome-panel to be running to hide a program window. The window I am trying to hide is the openoffice impress window that edits the power point. I just want to show the power point. is there such a program or is there a better method to not show the edit window on impress and just show the power point. Thanks Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: Money is a very corrosive material to place in the hands of people absent public oversight. It needs to be treated with both caution and circumspection lest it destroy that which it is intended to aid. That is why some people very much care about how it is handled. Which, again, is why CentOS is currently NOT accepting cash donations *until* some form of oversight is set up. -- RonB -- Using CentOS 5.3 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem.
Turned out I have an extra initrd image file for the problematic kernel with the suffix .dup_orig on it. I removed a few old kernels and removed and re-added the 2.6.18-164 xen kernel and then all was fine. The .dup_orig file was removed with the kernel an did not re-appear on re-install. No clue how or why the .dup_orig file came to be. Thanks, Ian. - Original Message From: Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Thursday, 17 September, 2009 9:20:01 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem. On 09/17/2009 08:39 AM, Ian Murray wrote: Where did you get the hypervisor from and what version are you running? This is the CentOs list, and I tend to run my stuff as close to the distro tree as possible. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
Folks, I have googled. I have find ...-exec grep. One server continues to send error messages to /var/log/messages that gdm-simple-greeter can't find some file in a user's (another admin, actually) home directory. Any ideas where it's getting it from? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, mark wrote: I have googled. I have find ...-exec grep. One server continues to send error messages to /var/log/messages that gdm-simple-greeter can't find some file in a user's (another admin, actually) home directory. Any ideas where it's getting it from? 'some file' ??? 'it's getting it' ??? [pronoun h*ll there] Heck, we don't even know what the name of the file that gdm is seeking, yet from your post ;) The content of those error messages in /var/log/messages are known only to you at this point ... not that it is getting it got anyway -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, mark wrote: I have googled. I have find ...-exec grep. One server continues to send error messages to /var/log/messages that gdm-simple-greeter can't find some file in a user's (another admin, actually) home directory. Any ideas where it's getting it from? 'some file' ??? 'it's getting it' ??? [pronoun h*ll there] Heck, we don't even know what the name of the file that gdm is seeking, yet from your post ;) Why do you need to? It's /home/username?/something/filename. What I was asking is *WHERE* gdm-simple-greeter could have gotten that name in the first place, as *if* I understand correctly, it's gnome's logon program, and (I'm not a gnome person) possibly, from the researching I've done, seems to be able to store recently logged-in people. *If* it's the latter, is there some cache, whose path I don't know, that it could be storing the name and path? Oh, and I also get the Glib-GDK-callback fullpath (if I'm remembering that correctly - I'm at home, not at work at the moment). I can post the latter full message tomorrow, but I do note that googling it, I keep finding references to bugs reported. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
Enviado desde mi iPhone El 18/09/2009, a las 04:39, mark m.r...@5-cent.us escribió: R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, mark wrote: I have googled. I have find ...-exec grep. One server continues to send error messages to /var/log/messages that gdm-simple-greeter can't find some file in a user's (another admin, actually) home directory. Any ideas where it's getting it from? 'some file' ??? 'it's getting it' ??? [pronoun h*ll there] Heck, we don't even know what the name of the file that gdm is seeking, yet from your post ;) Why do you need to? It's /home/username?/something/filename. What I was asking is *WHERE* gdm-simple-greeter could have gotten that name in the first place, as *if* I understand correctly, it's gnome's logon program, and (I'm not a gnome person) possibly, from the researching I've done, seems to be able to store recently logged-in people. *If* it's the latter, is there some cache, whose path I don't know, that it could be storing the name and path? Oh, and I also get the Glib-GDK-callback fullpath (if I'm remembering that correctly - I'm at home, not at work at the moment). I can post the latter full message tomorrow, but I do note that googling it, I keep finding references to bugs reported. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Could be something stored by gnome-session-save? Itxaka Serrano ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
