Re: [CentOS] CentOS-7-x86_64-dvd-2009.iso is too big for DVD blanks

[John Plemons]

Sounds like you need to use a dual layer DVD disc, it is double the 
capacity.


john


On 3/14/2021 9:13 PM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote:

I need help from someone experienced with the CentOS bug tracking
system. I gotta say it is one of the most complicated and imposing
front ends I've ever seen. Could anyone familiar with it please file a
bug on my behalf? Particulars:

"CentOS 7.9.2009 DVD iso image too large"

ISO image: CentOS-7-x86_64-DVD-2009.iso 4.7GB raw CD image
Wed Nov  4 05:37:25 2020
Burners: Both K3B and Brasero
Media: Both DVD-R and DVD+R single-layer disks

iso image: 4,712,300,544 bytes
User Anthony F McInerney advises Wikipedia says
DVD-R capacity: 4,707,319,808 bytes (max)

I have tried burning this same iso image on two different machines: a
CentOS 7.9 server and a Fedora 33 laptop. Same failure on both.

We need to ask the developers to make a re-spin that's about 5MB
smaller. And before someone suggests it, the 2010-vintage server I'm
trying to install CentOS on does not support booting from a thumb
drive, so that option is not available.

Thanks,

--Doc Savage
     Fairview Heights, IL

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[CentOS] Rocky LInux moving forward..

[John Plemons]

Got an eMail this morning about the Rocky Linux build, more info at this 
link, Sign up for forum access..

Paste ->
John,

Just looping back around to keep you informed. We have published our 
first community update 
 on 
the forums.


Best,  < End Paste
rockylinux.org

Jordan Pisaniello
Community Manager
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future [ Interesting Article.. ZDNet ]

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https://www.zdnet.com/article/cloudlinux-to-invest-more-than-a-million-dollar-a-year-into-centos-clone/
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Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between CentOS Linux and CentOS Stream?

[John Plemons]

I have a DEC Alpha sitting in my warehouse collecting dust what a great 
machine it was.. Was sorry to see Linux Support die for it..


john


On 12/16/2020 1:18 PM, R C wrote:


On 12/16/20 11:10 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:

On 12/16/20 11:24 AM, R C wrote:


On 12/16/20 8:11 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
But the Red Hat-based ecosystem version of that second group is 
on-topic, as the same sort of enthusiast exists here and has been 
very vocal about this change.
Well yes it is, but it started with a remark about licensing. I 
don't use Windows much, not even a handful of times in the last 
decade. Thing is that MS has something called their "Developers 
Network" (named something along those lines). If you're in higher 
education, R etc you can be in that network, in sortof an R 
category, for 'free'. ...



I have a whole shelf full of MSDN CDs and binders; it wasn't free, 
but it wasn't terribly expensive either.  In some cases the 
activations/keys for the software expire after a few months. Still 
have the last Windows 2000 Beta CD for the DEC Alpha architecture 



DEC  remember that..    the other day I ran into a  windows 95 box, I 
might even have an old drive with windows for work groups *lol*



here in that set.  Something similar for RHEL beyond the 
single-entitlement developer subscription would be cool.



But all kidding aside;  It would be cool to have an MSDN equivalent 
for RH for those that do a lot with RH, and that "take their work home 
and vice versa". That is what I use(d) Centos for, at home that is






For example, I was messing with kubernetes in a few ways.  redhat 
provides a license for RHEL, that you can use for that purpose for 
free, BUT you can have only have one license. 
Yes, which makes it a bit difficult to mess around with kubernetes. 
That particular case would be covered resonably well by CentOS 
Stream, though, since the major part of kubernetes' behavior isn't 
going to change radically within a point release cycle.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future ("Long goodbye"?)

[John Plemons]

I would like to echo the thanks in this post, and to add a bit of 
information that I have learned doing some quick research on where to 
go.  Scientific Linux is basically no more, they deferred to Centos and 
pretty much ended their distribution.
Oracle seems to be the easiest and quickest migration, they have a 
script which will make all of the changes to your server, switching you 
over to the Oracle flavor of Linux. On the horizon is Rocky Linux, a 
start up from the people who brought you Centos. As well as Cloud OS who 
says they are going to pick up where Centos left off, and continue a 
down stream version of the product. Worst case, we / you will have 
Oracle to fall back on if Rocky Linux or Cloud OS doesn't come through..

But once again, a BIG THANK YOU to Centos for all the years of work.

John Plemons


On 12/16/2020 11:45 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

My apologies about top posting.

I join Matthew on all counts.

The following might sound as a rant, but it is not, given the 
circumstances we have been put into.


First, and most important: thank you CentOS team for all great work 
youhave done during all these years. As user who used results of your 
work without giving much back (not counting maintaining public mirror, 
or helping others on the list whenever I felt my expertise adequate), 
I can not express how high I value what you gave to all of us.


Now, that CentOS as we knew it (as a “binary replica” of RedHat 
Enterprise) ceases to exist many of us are trying to figure out new 
long term solution for their “enterprise” sort of systems. Luckily I 
only partly have to do that, as for servers I already didmigration 
quite long ago. My mentioning it on this list was causing 
moreannoyance than I would like to, so I stopped mentioning it. But 
now it is time to mention it again, just to help everyone arrive at 
best decision. But first some thoughts on migration to different Linux 
Distro:


One of obvious possibilities is to migrate to some other “binary 
clone” of RHEL. One can find several, Oracle Linux (even thoughmany 
are cautious of Oracle, they - Oracle - didn’t drown out ofexistence 
mysql so far, maybe thanks to mariadb fork existence, …), Scientific 
Linux (which is effort of really small team, and I evaluated it well 
below CentOS when I had to make decision, and it confirmed trueover 
time), and others... However, once RedHat (or rather its owner 
IBM)made fundamental decision, it is not as much about the one who 
clones (binary rebuilds) of RHEL, as it is about RHEL itself. At least 
fo me it is. As, by undermining trust, even if they roll everything 
back to what it was, the trust is already lost by the knowledge of 
everyone that any moment they can do that in a future. This 
alternative is just out of question for me. Will I maintain RHEL for 
my current or potential future employer? Yes, definitely. Will I 
recommend fair (and way cheaper, better, longer lasting) alternative? 
By all means, yes, and with my experience of migration, and documented 
migration steps, etc...


Another possibility for pure Linux folks is switch to different 
distro.Not with 10 years life cycle (here RedHat was unique), but 
shorter one, yet with much easier upgrade from one release to another. 
[Even knowing about Ubuntu LTS] Debian would be my choice, which I am 
going to pursue for CentOS number crunchers and workstations I 
maintain. Laptops are Debianclone Ubuntu since long ago. This will be 
“rolling release", i.e. mostly you will have to upgrade packages to 
latest release, and constantly will take chance something will break 
with change of internals of given software from one release to 
another. It will be more work (for 24/7/365 servers most gravely 
notable). But it may outweigh the single event when your “enterprise” 
life is cancelled one day, and youhave to redo the whole 
infrastructure all at once. Think about it and about peace of mind 
avoiding that eventuality.


This leads me at last to telling that my sever infrastructure was 
migrated long ago to FreeBSD. One can chose different BSD successor 
based on one’s own assessment of suitability. First of all, pure Linux 
folk, it is not that challenging as one may think. I would say here 
the same thing I was telling to my users who we just starting to use 
UNIX (or Linux). How many command do you need to know to start using 
UNIX? Just 5-6 isenough. Start doing things, and in a couple of Months 
you will feel you know everything. In 6 Months you will be top expert: 
the one who knows what he knows and knows what he doesn’t know. My 
choice was based on the following facts: FreeBSD is most widely used 
(even Microsoft was once noticed to run some of their servers on 
FreeBSD). FreeBSD has excellent documentation. FreeBSD community is as 
eager to help the one who got stuck with something as our CentOS 
community is. They have as excellent experts as Johnny, Matthew, ... 
sorry I can not mention everyone, that will

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

[John Plemons]

If any one is interested, I have a brand new AS400 sitting upstairs in 
my computer room, it was a bought as surplus item, never used. I just 
hung onto it. It can be yours cheap, not wanting an arm and a leg for 
it, I would be open to a nice offer if anyone has an interest.


john plemons


On 10/30/2018 3:37 PM, mark wrote:

Mark Rousell wrote:

On 30/10/2018 17:14, Simon Matter wrote:



Yup. When I looked at IBM Power machines before (maybe about a year ago,
not sure), there was actually a pricing tool on the website. You could go
through various options for machines (GPUs, CPUs, storage, memory, etc.)
and get a price. Annoyingly I didn't record detailed pricing info but, as
I recall, the prices were painful but not totally out of
comparison with high end x86-64 servers from HPE and the like. I wish I'd
kept the quotes now.


IBM has the chance to change this now.


It would be nice if they would. But I think it be a very big step for
them to willingly reduce prices unless and until other vendors can undercut
them in a large enough scale. But it seems that a lot of people in larger
businesses still like the security of "IBM" (even if they choose to run
Linux on the boxes).


Unless I'm misremembering, these are midway between small server and
mainframe. I just did a search, and only found used systems, never new,
and they were all "refurbed", starting at $1500, and going up to $22k...
and still refurbed.

I think my guess of new, > $100k is about right.

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Re: [CentOS] Certificates

[John Plemons]

Letsencrypt.org has one other thing you should know about, not a biggie, 
the certificate is only good for 90 days at a time. Then you need to 
renew. But they though about that too, you can automate the renewal, so 
that each time the certificate expires and new one is generated and 
installed. It is supported by all of the major browsers, by supported, 
they are a part of the group that funds letsencrypt.org


john



On 8/31/2018 3:38 PM, Ulf Volmer wrote:

On 31.08.2018 21:31, Michael Schumacher wrote:


certbot works only with ports 80 or 443? Can lego work with with IMAP
ports like 143 or 993? The documentation is not very clear.

basically - independent of the client - letsencrypt will only support
http/https or dns based challenges.

so - if you want to get certificates for an imap only server, you will
have to setup an webserver for the challenge. or deal with your dns server.

best regards
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 httpd Permission problems with Postfixadmin

[John Plemons]

My memory may be flawed, but I think the .htaccess is a hidden file just 
change its properties.


john


On 2/17/2017 1:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 02/17/2017 01:11 PM, Pete Biggs wrote:

  From error.log:

[Fri Feb 17 12:56:33.478024 2017] [authz_core:error] [pid 5759] [client
192.168.160.12:48290] AH01630: client denied by server configuration:
/usr/share/postfixadmin

So it's an authorisation issue. In your .htaccess file change

   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all

to the apache 2.4 version

   Require all granted

See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html


Thing is, I don't have an .htaccess file ANYWHERE on this system. I 
checked.


I'll make one.


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[CentOS] Fail2Ban Centos 7 is there a trick to making it work?

[John Plemons]

Been working on fail2ban, and trying to make it work with plain Jane 
install of Centos 7


Machine is a HP running 2 Quad core Xeons, 16 gig or ram and 1 plus TB 
of disk space. Very generic and vanilla.


Current available epel repo version is fail2ban-0.9.1

Looking at the log file, fail2ban starts and stops fine, there isn't 
output though showing any login attempts being restricted.


2015-03-09 12:54:37,930 fail2ban.server [14805]: INFOStopping all 
jails
2015-03-09 12:54:37,931 fail2ban.server [14805]: INFOExiting 
Fail2ban
2015-03-09 12:54:38,338 fail2ban.server [16678]: INFOChanged 
logging target to /var/log/fail2ban.log for Fail2ban v0.9.1
2015-03-09 12:54:38,341 fail2ban.database   [16678]: INFOConnected to 
fail2ban persistent database '/var/lib/fail2ban/fail2ban.sqlite3'

I copied jail.conf and added the edited jail.local to the directory 
/etc/fail2ban/


This is about as far as I have gotten with searches on how to configure 
with Centos 7.


Any help would be welcome. What am I missing?

john


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Re: [CentOS] SELinux permissions for apache

[John Plemons]

The easiest answer is to edit the Selinux config file. By default it is 
set to enforce, which really locks it down.


cd /etc/selinux

edit the config file and change SELUNIX=enforcing to SELUNIX=permissive

Save the file and restart httpd, you should be fine..

john plemons



On 1/22/2015 1:36 PM, Tim Dunphy wrote:

Hey Jeremy,




Have you tried changing the folder where it's writing into with these
lables?   httpd_sys_content_rw_t or httpd_user_content_rw_t


Adding 'rw' to the command did the trick. I tried  httpd_sys_content_rw_t and
that works fine! Thanks for the tip!

Tim

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Jeremy Hoel jth...@gmail.com wrote:


Have you tried changing the folder where it's writing into with these
lables?   httpd_sys_content_rw_t or httpd_user_content_rw_t

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hey all,

  I have a simple php app working that writes some info to a text file.

The

app will only work correctly if SELinux is disabled. If it's enabled and
try to use the app, it fails. It seems that SELinux is denying the app
ability to write to the text file.

So I tried running the following command:

chcon -R -t httpd_sys_content_t /var/www

And tried veriying the command with the following:

ls -RZ /var/www

And everything seems to be in order. For example I see:

-rw-r--r--. apache apache system_u:object_r:httpd_sys_content_t:s0
vieworders.php

But the app stil won't function correctly unless SELinux is set to off.
What can I do to get it work with it enabled?

Thanks
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Re: [CentOS] restarting mysql databases

[John Plemons]

Did you do the /usr/bin/mysql_secure_install

Sounds like that is the issue, run mysql_secure_install

It will setup MySQL securely with a simple set of questions and 
answers..  Yes is the right answer for most of the questions.


Here is a link to LAMP Stack for Centos, the MySQL section is just below 
the Apache install section..


https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-centos-6

Also good for CentOS 7

john

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Re: [CentOS] restarting mysql databases

[John Plemons]

See, that's what happens when you get a phone call in the middle of 
trying to help someone.  At least we got the ball going in the right 
direction.


You might load webmin onto the machine, it is a web interface and can 
make much of the MySQL control easier. It has a host of modules that may 
come in handy as you configure your machine.


http://www.webmin.com your Centos load should support it.  Are you 
adding Apache, PHP etc..?  If so the link I gave you will help with the 
installations.


john

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Re: [CentOS] Install Centos 6 x86_64 on Dell PowerEdge 2970 and aSSD (hardware probing issues)

[John Plemons]

Hey just coming into this conversation. Here is an Idea.. Why not 
install a SATA card into the machine, one that supports AHCI. I'm 
guessing there is a free PCI or PCI-E slot.


They are made, here is a link, I found quickly with a google search..  
Bang for buck, it could be the cheapest option.


http://www.lycom.com.tw/PE-126.htm

http://www.lycom.com.tw/PE-125.htm  ( Better card )

It could save a bunch of headaches.

On your 2970 which series are you running?  II or III

John


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Re: [CentOS] Instaling LAMP on CentOS 7.x

[John Plemons]

Just did one myself. Don't forget PHPmyadmin

I would also enable the Epel repo, for things like Filezilla, fail2ban 
and phpmyadmin. They are worthwhile add-ins

Your link is

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-install-linux-apache-mariadb-php-lamp-stack-on-centos7-rhel7/

john




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 setup on.  Does anyone recommend anything and have a link too it?  I
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Re: [CentOS] Instaling LAMP on CentOS 7.x

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Webmin works too.  There is a new release 1.700 that deals with the 
switch to .service

webmin.com

john



On 8/14/2014 10:47 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
 On Thu, August 14, 2014 9:41 am, John Plemons wrote:
 Just did one myself. Don't forget PHPmyadmin

 And beware that quite noticeable portion of attempts to hack your website
 aim at phpmyadmin ;-)

 
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Re: [CentOS] Instaling LAMP on CentOS 7.x

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Yes

Here is a link to enable the epel repo

http://www.tecmint.com/how-to-enable-epel-repository-for-rhel-centos-6-5/ ( 
It was updated to include CentOS 7 )

If you are looking for another method for mySQL management, then 
webmin.com works too. Download the RPM package, ver. 1.700, it will 
allow you to do a great number of tasks remotely via the web.

john


On 8/14/2014 11:09 AM, Matt wrote:
 Just did one myself. Don't forget PHPmyadmin

 I would also enable the Epel repo, for things like Filezilla, fail2ban
 and phpmyadmin. They are worthwhile add-ins

 Your link is

 http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-install-linux-apache-mariadb-php-lamp-stack-on-centos7-rhel7/

 john
 Was looking at that link.  Also found this:

 https://www.liberiangeek.net/2014/07/install-apache2-mariadb-php5-support-centos-7/

 Looks like phpmyadmin is not in the stock repositories so if I want it
 I need to use epel or rpmforge?





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[CentOS] Fail2Ban Centos 7 Anyone installed yet?

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Has anyone installed Fail2Ban on Centos 7 yet?  It isn't found in the 
EPEL repo. Is there a package available?

john

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Re: [CentOS] DVD ISO CentOS 7

[John Plemons]

I got the same thing. Switched to Gnome installation, and will add the 
programs I need as I go..  KDI is also and option.

As for the everything ISO, I wasn't sure, but though that would included 
sources. Not a everything install, but I could be wrong.

It would be nice to have a install everything option, then you just run 
on what you want. Heck disk space isn't a though these days.

john


On 7/10/2014 10:32 AM, Wes James wrote:
 I just installed CentOS 7 from the DVD ISO in virtual box.  I only get a 
 login prompt.  Is that what the DVD ISO is supposed to do?  To get a gui, do 
 I need the Everything ISO?  I'll try and see.

 Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] how do I remove a battery

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Looking at the picture, does the tab toggle to the right. There is a 
slot that leads me to believe that if you pushed the tab to the righ, it 
might release the battery.

john


On 4/22/2014 9:32 PM, g wrote:

 On 04/23/14 02:08, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 I've got an MSI K9N Platinum MS 7250 VER 1.1
 motherboard with a dead battery.
 The battery mounts vertically:
 http://www.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/computer/battery.png
 To me, the tab on the right would seem to need moving.
 It does not want to move.
 I am reluctant to apply any more force than I
 already have without knowing how to apply it.

 How do I remove the battery?
 1- why not consider contacting MSI and ask?

  http://us.msi.com/about/contact-us/

 2- try rotating tab and battery?



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Re: [CentOS] RAID MD10

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Raid 10 is a mirrored stripped set of at least 4 driver. You get the 
best of both worlds, data speed and data back up..

john



On 3/4/2013 11:12 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 I'm going to rebuild my system at home soon, and was planning to mirror
 two drives. However, I was just looking up something about RAID, and on
 wikipedia found some information about the Linux MD driver, and near and
 far RAID10.

 Anyone have some opinions about them?

mark or should that be how many opinions do folks have
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Re: [CentOS] Sendmail logs?

[John Plemons]

Try var/log

My maillog is stored there..

john



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Re: [CentOS] gftp ?

[John Plemons]

Get it here

http://pkgs.repoforge.org/gftp/

john plemons




On 12/7/2012 8:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Centos 6.3

 Just tried to install gftp, and no package found.

 Where is it?  I do have EPEL included in yum.  I am rather addictived to
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Re: [CentOS] Good Anti-virus for Linux desktops and servers

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Try AVG, it is main stream and has a Linux port..

http://www.avg.com

john






On 8/31/2012 9:51 AM, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:
 -Original Message-
 Hi.

 I'm look for an enterprise quality Anti-virus / Malware for my Linux
 machines . Mostly Ubuntu on the desktop, CentOS and RHEL servers. I
 must have real time scanning, on demand scanning, and centralized
 management.

 Is there anything out there that can do this ?

 GM
 -Original Message-
 Just a final remark,
 Most AV-scanners are not capable of detecting everything.
 If you really want to protect Microsoft desktops behind your Linux machine, 
 you need multiple scanners serialized.

 What's been said before, Kaspersky is really good specially compared with 
 clamav.
 Last time I tried clamav with a population of captured viri, it only detected 
 60% of them.
 BUT: ... it did detect the ones that Kasperky didn't.

 So the combination of multiple different detectors (not specifically these 
 two) is advisable.

 Hw

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Re: [CentOS] Good tool to draw server room?

[John Plemons]

Simple easy to use and free, go with PowerDraw.. It is easy to work 
with, no long learning curve, and it works OK..

This should be a link to download it,

http://dl.cdn.chip.eu/downloads/83855/pdrawsetup_en.exe?cid=1175964platform=dcu1341321254-1341328754-7cffed-B-f9a2a74a4c67b688e2a5ce76872bfb23.exe

If it doesn't work, then this link will find you a download point..

https://www.google.com/search?q=powewrdraw%20download


john



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 I am currently designing a server room. I would like to be able to draw a
 2D (in the future 3D) project. Do you know any tools? Which one can you
 recommend?

 Best regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Problems with motherboard support? INTEL DP43BF

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Try turning off the green features completely on the board..  Never 
allow the board to go to sleep, don't even let the board put the monitor 
into power saving mode..

John






On 12/27/2010 4:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
 On 12/27/10 11:04 AM, robert mena wrote:
 Hi,

 I've installed Centos 5.5 (plus updates) in a machine with INTEL
 DP43BF motherboard.  In order to make Linux detect the PCIs I've added
 the pci=assign-busses in my GRUB conf.

 Everything runs fine but within less than 2 days of uptime the machine
 simply freezes (black console no connectivity).  This has happened
 more than one time so I'm considering to be a problem. The memtest
 passed without a problem and the machine uses a compact flash (sandisk
 extreme III 4GB) as a disk.

 I could only find the error messages in my /var/log/messages but those
 appear hours before the actual lock.

 kernel: :00:1a.7 EHCI: BIOS handoff failed (BIOS bug ?) 01010001

 kernel: :00:1d.7 EHCI: BIOS handoff failed (BIOS bug ?) 01010001


 kernel: eth4: PCI Bus error a290.

 kernel: eth4: PCI Bus error 0290.

 kernel: eth3: PCI Bus error 2290.

 kernel: eth3: PCI Bus error 0290.


 Any tips?


 thats a desktop board, right?  so it probably doesn't have ECC or any of
 the other system integrity features of a server board, nor do they
 usually have the IO bus bandwidth to handle substantial IO workloads.

 PCI bus errors are not a good thing at all, either.  you have 5 ethernet
 adapters in use?   what sort of Ethernet controller?   I believe those
 PCI Bus errors are being reported by your ethernet adapters, and could
 be the result of excess bus contention.  a single gigE can way more than
 saturate a 32bit 33Mhz PCI (parallel) bus.  All the PCI slots on a
 desktop board like you have are on the same bus and contend for the same
 bandwidth.

 Also, as mentioned thermal problems are a definite possibility, although
 Intel CPUs tend to self-throttle if they get too hot, the Chipset might
 not be that good at it (eg, watch the chipset and memory temperature as
 well as the CPU).Another possible cause would be silent memory
 corruption although that would be more likely to cause a kernel fault
 (Fatal kernel error - system halted) however if your display is in a
 GUI mode, you won't see this unless the console is directed to a serial
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Re: [CentOS] mail issue help and need good mail server

[John Plemons]

What mail client are you using?

My people use Thunderbird, it keeps track of the emails that it has 
downloaded and doesn't download again...

I had this problems years ago with earlier versions, but only at random 
and on different clients and at different time, it was unrepeatable..

John


On 2/19/2010 2:23 PM, chloe K wrote:
 Thank you for your helping

 but why user keeps downloading mails what he downloaded before?

 I check the mail client setting and it works fine

 If it is not server control, any hints about this problem

 Thank you



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 From: Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] mail issue help and need good mail server
 To: centos@centos.org
 Received: Friday, February 19, 2010, 1:43 PM
 On 2/19/2010 12:26 PM, chloe K
 wrote:
  
 Hi

 What mail server can prevent incoming mail to repeat

 downloading to the mail client?

 It is usually up to the client what they want to download,
 how many
 times they do it (a user may have different clients and may
 reconfigure
 them to drop and re-add an account, etc.), and when they
 delete from the
 server.  I'd be surprised if any servers strictly
 limit repeat
 downloads.  On the other hand, any sensible mail
 client will track the
 messages it already has and not download them again. 
 If something is
 doing it repeatedly it is probably broken.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.4? anyone?

[John Plemons]

You know if this was a new X-Box, or PlayStation, we might be sleeping 
in a tent next to the front of the store selling them wait for the store 
to be open.  Or sleeping in line at the New Opening Release of Star Wars 
12 Return of the O/S...  We are all a little bit of a geek and this 
stuff gets us going.  It is new, it is the latest and greatest and the 
expectation slows down the time line to a crawl, and at times seems like 
it is going in reverse ( only in our mind )...


People understand that there is a great deal of work going on in the 
back ground, but again most of us don't have a clue about what is going 
on or what is needed to put a distribution set out. I'll say it again, 
for Version 5.5, lets put up a simple page that details ( not in depth ) 
some of the steps required to publish the distribution.  Show the mile 
markers that we need to achieve and check them off as we get to them.  
Be like Scotty on Star Trek, Oh Capitan it will take me 6 months to get 
the warp engines back on line...  Pad the release time, then do it in 
three, at that point you are freaking great programmers and surpassed 
all expectations...


I've worked in distribution sales, and people like to be stroked, even 
if you have no new information, information is information and they know 
that something is going on.  I fought this for many years, with the 
answer that... Hey, nothing new is going on it is the same answer as 
yesterday..  But by giving out information even if it is the same old 
information makes everyone feel like they are in the loop.


Here is an example that could have stopped this whole thread...

First Message...

 5.4 is baked! centos internal network will start syncing up today. 
release ~ soon!


Next Message

5.4 is still syncing up, this will take some time, but we are moving 
forward, more information to follow.


It doesn't take much to keep people happy.

As I was typing this, I saw another post which I felt was out of line 
and harsh, we need to learn to keep egos in check and understand that 
nothing gets done if we keep attacking the people who are doing the 
work.  They become distracted, and mistakes are more likely to happen.  
We don't need to know every detail, the basics will do, and what would 
help is getting a bit more information rather than the silence or when 
its done message...  Again most of this turmoil is due to ignorance on 
the part of we who don't know how the process works, and a bit of 
arrogance on the part of those who do know, what we need is more tolerance.


Being a tolerant person to a degree..  Work on keep on a baking and lets 
cook the heck out of Centos 5.4  I can hardly wait...


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Many of the questions are due to ignorance from many of us not versed in 
what it take s to come up with the release.  For Version 5.5 when we get 
that far,  if some one could work up a quick and dirty web page 
checklist showing the basic progress and what steps are left to bring 
the release to the public are detailed for everyone to see, then these 
questions might stop.  And so might the sharp quips given as responses 
to the inquiry. 

Let me say before I get quipped. that I do not have the skills ( haven't 
learned them ) to go through this process of building the release, I'm 
more of a hardware guy. But I really do appreciate all of those who can 
do the work for doing what you do and for the selfless work that you 
do.  You benefit the Linux world through your work and are very much 
loved by us who can't do it...  Again forgive us who can't since we have 
no concept of the time and energy that it takes to do the work.


John Plemons



Jeremy Rosengren wrote:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho 
mig...@ic.unicamp.br mailto:mig...@ic.unicamp.br wrote:


mbneto wrote:
 Hi,

 The last status (from twitter) is 2 days old with the '5.4 is baked!
 centos internal network will start syncing up today. Release ~
soon!'.
 Any ETA?


Just relax and wait, this is a _volunteer_ based project. Want a
release
date? Go pay for RHEL.


This response is just as annoying as the request for an update.

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I can wait, I just have a project coming up and am planning.  I remember 
seeing a post a couple of weeks back that RedHat 5.4 was released and at 
that time a couple of weeks was thrown out for Centos 5.4 being 
released.  Are we still on schedule?


Thank you,,
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[CentOS] Best way to backup and entire machine??

[John Plemons]

I want to mirror a Centos box, not having done this before, I'm looking 
for guidance.


What is the best way to perform this task, I have a running webserver, a 
single external IP address to the website, and wanted to protect myself 
should the server go down. My though would be a mirror of that 
webserver, running in background, if the main server dies, then just 
move the mirror in place, change the IP and go on...  Limiting down time...


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The web machine uses a PHP shopping cart running atop MySQL, all of the 
main and important information is kept as a part of the MySQL DB.  So 
the main thing I would want to mirror is the application and the DB.  
I'm a surplus dealer, so hardware isn't a big issue, I have extra 
servers that can be up in a couple of hours without any big layout of money.
I'm just looking for the best way to keep down time to a minimum and as 
always to KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid.  Simple to manage, simple to 
maintain...


John



Les Mikesell wrote:

John Plemons wrote:
  
I want to mirror a Centos box, not having done this before, I'm looking 
for guidance.


What is the best way to perform this task, I have a running webserver, a 
single external IP address to the website, and wanted to protect myself 
should the server go down. My though would be a mirror of that 
webserver, running in background, if the main server dies, then just 
move the mirror in place, change the IP and go on...  Limiting down time...



There are several approaches, depending on how you want to trade expense 
and effort against possible downtime - and whether your site is 
approaching the point where you need a load-balanced farm of servers and 
possibly redundant sites.


The easiest plan with the least to go wrong is probably to use RAID1 
mirrored/swappable drives with a spare chassis, and also do nightly 
backups.  The most likely failure will be a disk drive, handled 
transparently by the mirror until you can replace it.  Next most likely 
would be the power supply/motherboard which you handle by swapping the 
disks to your spare with a small amount of downtime.  Next would be an 
operator or software error that erases or corrupts your disks.  For that 
you have to restore from your last backup with a much longer downtime.


You can keep the spare server in sync with DRBD and fail over 
automatically with heartbeat at the expense of more complexity but you 
still need backups for the error scenaro.


  
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Re: [CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

[John Plemons]

*ReCentOS* would work..  *_Re_*introducing _*CentOS*_

john plemons


Garry.Dale wrote:

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Jim Perrinjper...@gmail.com wrote:
  

I'd personally like to hear what the community has to say about this,
as it's not just an internal matter. Please speak up so that we know
where the community stands on this. I'd rather be wrong, but know how
people feel than take a stand for a community who has other ideas.



Oh...  A CentOS disruption, even in name only, would be painful.

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Re: [CentOS] 4 X 500 gb drives - best software raid config for a backup server?

[John Plemons]

For controller, what is the interface on your drives??  SCSI, SAS??

John Plemons



dnk wrote:
 Hi there,

 I am currently setting up a server that will house my backups (simply  
 using rsync).

 This system has 4 X 500 gb drives and I am looking to raid for max  
 drive space and data safety. Performance is not so much a concern.

 My experience with software raids in nil, so some of these may seem  
 like pretty dumb questions.

 I was thinking a raid 1 is probably sufficient.

 Would it be best to raid 1 two drives each and LVM them together?

 My next question would be about how to do this as I have never done a  
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Re: [CentOS] Antivirus for CentOS? (yuck!)

[John Plemons]

I use AVG, they have a nice and clean Real Time Scanning piece of 
software for Linux

see http://www.grisoft.com for general info

http://www.avg.com/download-7?prd=avl

to download for the different flavors of Linux

I use it on my Linux boxes as well as all of my Windows Clients and 
Servers as well, bang for buck its one of the best out and much better 
than that crappy Symantic brand AV

john plemons

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Re: [CentOS] Antivirus for CentOS? (yuck!)

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But again you said it, Symantic is trash

With my history of machine crashes caused by their I can do it better 
altitude, Run don't walk from Symantic

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Re: [CentOS] Looking for an application to work with Centos

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Frank thank you for the feedback...  I understand that there will not be 
a real time Spidering and update of Google, that's fine, once the 
150,000 part numbers are Spidered once, then that is 1/2 the work done.  
The other side, that I want to be some what real time, is a onsite 
search feature so that real customers can see true, or close to true 
information...
What some people do, is build a pade with every part number know to man 
on it, just a basic stream of text on a page, one after an other, after 
several tens if not hundreds of pages they have the information on the 
web.  In that manner, they then can be Spidered by the search engines.  
These companies don't have the product, but they do get requests for the 
product and then they go out into the world to fine it, they are known 
as brokers.  The other side of the coin is what we do, we hold inventory 
on at least 150,000 different part numbers, in a mix of quantities 
amounting to millions of pieces of inventory on hand.
I have this inventory in a Firebird DB, I'd like to find a way of 
dumping this information into a program that will create pages on our 
website, or at least create a catalog on our website that can be 
spidered by the various search engines.  My first thought was a basic 
Shopping Cart, I use one now on our surplus electronics and consumer 
website..  Some basic information on the part, entered in plain text, 
and the cart uses its PHP scripting to generate a page, these pages are 
captured by the search engine spiders, driving people to our website.  
It is called SquirrelCart, but it has more bells an whistles than is 
needed for this project, if a person gets to our site, I just want them 
to be able to see if we have the item in stock and show them a quantity, 
if we do, then give them a phone number to yalk with my sales 
department, or a web form to let them contact us...  KISS, I want to 
keep it simple...


John
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Frank Cox wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:28:50 -0500
John Plemons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
Thanks for the feedback, but not exactly what I have in mind, the 
inventory is fluid and quantity changes are updated daily.  My goal 
would be a real time link to a secondary DB which has a update push from 
the primary DB, the primary is a Firebird DB under Windows 2003 server..



I don't think you're going to get the results that you think you're going to
get, assuming that by search engines you mean Google, MSN and the like.  Your
site may or many not be spidered by the search engines on a daily, weekly or
monthly basis.  Google works in mysterious ways.

I get the impression that you want someone who searches one of the search
engines for Widget No. 12345 to be sent to your site if you happen to have
Widget No. 12345 in stock today.  You're planning to use Google as your database
frontend and salesman, in other words.  Nothing wrong with that in theory, I
suppose, but I really don't think you're going to be able to keep an
up-to-the-minute inventory on Google unless you pay them for the service in
some way.

  




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[CentOS] Looking for an application to work with Centos

[John Plemons]

I'm looking for a application, and or ideas on how to 

Set up a web page that can be cataloged by search engines capturing all 
of the part numbers in a db.  This page would be tied to a MySql or 
other  Linux DB so that people can also do a basic on site part number 
search..  We have 150,000 different part numbers, we would like all 
150,000 picked up by the different search engines.


Can anyone come up with any ideas??

The platform is a basic P4 running Centos 5, disk space isn't much of an 
issue, I have 100 gig available for the application. The only other 
application on the machine is a picture server for off site auctions, so 
CPU load isn't major factor.


Thanks,
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Thanks for the feedback, but not exactly what I have in mind, the 
inventory is fluid and quantity changes are updated daily.  My goal 
would be a real time link to a secondary DB which has a update push from 
the primary DB, the primary is a Firebird DB under Windows 2003 server..


john


Rainer Duffner wrote:


Am 26.11.2008 um 01:34 schrieb John Plemons:


I'm looking for a application, and or ideas on how to 

Set up a web page that can be cataloged by search engines capturing 
all of the part numbers in a db.  This page would be tied to a MySql 
or other  Linux DB so that people can also do a basic on site part 
number search..  We have 150,000 different part numbers, we would 
like all 150,000 picked up by the different search engines.


Can anyone come up with any ideas??

The platform is a basic P4 running Centos 5, disk space isn't much of 
an issue, I have 100 gig available for the application. The only 
other application on the machine is a picture server for off site 
auctions, so CPU load isn't major factor.




Why the hassle?

http://www.google.com/base/



Regards,
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Replacement for Intel SDS2 Motherboard

[John Plemons]

OK went through my boards, I have a Tyan

S2927G2NR

(3) PCI Slots...

See Tyan   http://www.tyan.com/product_board_spec.aspx?pid=175


Also a Tyan S3970G2NR-RS

(4) PCI Slots...  See...   
http://www.tyan.com/product_board_spec.aspx?pid=223


Boards are new and unused, and are Dual AMD Opteron's,

The S2927G2NR is complete with cables etc  The S3970G2NR-RS is the 
board only...


The S2927G2NR is $200.00, the S3979G2NR-RS is $150.00

Both have more than what he is looking for...

john


John R Pierce wrote:

John Plemons wrote:
What case form factor are you looking for, I may have a new IBM under 
warranty that I can sell to you for what you are looking to spend...


All Xeons


he's got 3 raid cards in his current server.

1 x 3Ware 7006-2  - PCI 32bit 66MHz (probably fits in a PCI-X slow?) - 
2 x ATA/133

2 x 3Ware 7506-4LP - PCI 64bit 66Mhz (PCI-X?) - 4 x ATA 133

which he says he needs to keep.

so this implies he has up to 10 IDE drives in this system.  few if any 
newer server cases would support this sort of storage configuration.  
It also implies he needs 3 x PCI-X slots, most newer servers have gone 
to PCI-Express X4 or X8 slots for these purposes.





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Re: [CentOS] Postfix problem

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Try installing WebMin and configure Postfix using their interface and 
see if that works for you...  It is menu driven and a quick and easy way 
to configure your server...


john





Paolo Supino wrote:

Hi

  I have a CentOS 4.2 server with postfix. The problem I'm having is 
that postfix insists on using $myhostname in the from field even if I 
instruct it to use $mydomain in /etc/postfix/main.cf or even if I hard 
code the domain name into $myorigin. What am I missing?



BTW: postconf shows output shows that $myorigin is configured to use 
$mydomain,  or the domain name itself ...





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Re: [CentOS] Unexpected FTP Activity

[John Plemons]

It returns to

class-name  organization
id  NYIC-64.90.160.0/19
auth-area   64.90.160.0/19
org-nameNEWYORKINT-64.90
organizationNew York Internet (NYI)
street-address  20 Exchange Pl, 21st Floor
cityNew York
state   NY
postal-code 10005
country-codeUS
phone   (212)-269-1999
tech-email  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
created 20080704
updated 20080704



Any one you know??

john



Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote:

Since I put my new Centos box on the net, it frequently
tr1es to make ftp contact with IP address 64.90.181.77 .

Why is this, and does anyone recognize this IP address?
Is it spyware?

Mike.

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Re: [CentOS] AM/FM tuner for centos 4 or 5?

[John Plemons]

why not do both and look at your options...

john plemons




Jason Pyeron wrote:

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Subject: Re: [CentOS] AM/FM tuner for centos 4 or 5?

Jason Pyeron wrote:


Looking for a radio tuner for my audio server.

Needs to do AM.

Any hardware reccomendations?
  
I hooked up an original Griffin RadioShark to my CentOS 5.1 
server for a lark last month, streaming with DarkIce.  
Unfortunately, that machine is dark and 2500 miles away - I 
won't be there for
2 more months.  Off the top of my head, google for shark.c, 
look for dependency RPMs on RPMforge (thanks Dag!!). I think 
I had to manually install a recent version of libhid





Ok.

  
Griffin stopped selling the RS and now has RadioShark2.  I 
found a version of shark.c for it named shark2.c, so I don't 
think the hardware is backwards compatible, but there is an 
update version of the control program.  My notes are all on 
the dark machine, but IIRC this blog is was my jumping off 
point for what I figured out.


http://javier.rodriguez.org.mx/index.php/2006/06/10/griffin-ra


dio-shark-icecast2-on-debian-gnulinux
  
Obviously, since it is for Debian, you'll have to deal with 
the distro impedance mismatch in the instructions and adjust 
for CentOS.



Not afraid of that.

  
Also, since it is USB, you can get nice separation between 
receiver and the computer.  The RadioShark has a lousy 
internal antenna but does have an antenna jack.  I only 
played with the FM tuner.  It does have an AM tuner but I 
have no idea how good it is.






In summary, should I risk the cost of a radio shark2 or ebay a radio shark?



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Re: [CentOS] AM/FM tuner for centos 4 or 5?

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Why not just pick up a cheap tuner on eBay and connect into the sever 
via the sound card input.  That is what I did, I bought a Denon tuner 
for $20.00, used a cheap RCA to stereo headphone adapter to wire into 
the machine.  The advantage is that you are going to get a very nice 
strong tuner which should do a much better job than any PC add in card...


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Needs to do AM.

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Re: [CentOS] ClamAV help needed

[John Plemons]

Not to move anyone to another package, but to offer another route if you 
want to consider it.


An option other than ClamAV is AVG, it works well, and is easy to install.

Grisoft has a Linux version of their AVG Virus Software
The free version can be downloaded here

ftp://ftp.grisoft.cz/pub/softw/70free/setup/

They have a complete line of Anti-Virus Software for both the MS and 
Linux worlds, I have used both version for years an like it much more 
than Symantic ( Norton ) - McAfee etc..  It doesn't wind it's way down 
into the heart of the OS, it is very stable and in my mind one of the 
best Anti Virus packages out.  If you prefer a paid version, theirs is a 
very cost effective product with flavors to suit all applications and sizes.


More information can be had at http://www.grisoft.com  if looking for a 
one off copy of a basic AV for your Windows machine, then 
http://free.grisoft.com  The free versions don't include all of the 
bells and whistles but work very well, run and update automatically.


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Anne Wilson wrote:
ClamAV is installed on my CentOS box.  I edited the conf file and assumed all 
is well.  Clearly it isn't.


Every day I see in logwatch that my signatures are updated, and the database 
notified, but if I try to scan a file manually it tells me that my signatures 
are 55 days old.


I tried looking at a how-to, in the hope of identifying the problem, but it is 
hopelessly out of date, and I reached the stage where it seemed that 
following it any further risked my installation.


Can someone please give me a quick run-down of the things I should check.  
Clearly freshclam is running, but that's about all I know for certain.


Thanks

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Re: [Fwd: Re: [CentOS] School Server Setup]

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Given the cost and ease of setup, CentOS is a great choice, using one of 
the machines as a server and the other as clients. CentOS is very 
robust, and can be configured for one machine to hundreds, so to ear 
mark it as only a Enterprise package is wrong, and no there isn't a 
great deal of setup involved.  With the tools that come with the package 
a working server can easily be configured and running in a afternoon, so 
the task isn't all that tough.  Plus you have the wealth of the CentOS 
community to help if you get in trouble.


That's my nickels worth, you can keep the extra three cents...

john plemons






Ralph Angenendt wrote:

Alain Terriault wrote:
  
For 25 systems and if you want this done without spending to much time,  
Clarkconnect would by my first choice for server side OS (#2 would be 
SME).


[...]
  

For the clients side, my favorite flavor of Linux is Ubuntu.



For trees my favourite color is green, while for fire engines it is red.

This is something you don't have to back up with some arguments, as a
non-green tree (at least from spring to fall) doesn't look that healthy
and who has ever heard of a yellow fire engine?

Your case up there looks a bit different: It is easy to say that those
are your favourite flavors - but can you substantiate that somehow?
Especially as ClarkConnect and SME are based (or at least were based) on
CentOS but mostly lack a large community behind them - Vendor Lock-In. 


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Re: [CentOS] Best Motherboard

[John Plemons]

I would look at Tyan, Soyo, and Intel for middle of the road 
performance, but more over for dependability...  I have also had very 
good luck with MSI, Asus...


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Ryan Nichols wrote:
Really? We bought that EXACT motherboard.. 10 to be exact and we've 
had 9 fail and the 10th is on its way to major failure.. the odd thing 
is that 10th one was the first one purchased and that was 6 months ago.


On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Juan C. Valido 
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Personally, I like Gigabyte motherboards a lot, the GA-P35-DS3L I use
with Core 2 Duo (Quad) and DDR2. I though I was going to do better
with
the Intel DP35DP and guess what, I like the the Gigabyte Better
(personally).

On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 06:43 -0500, Ryan Nichols wrote:
 To all..

 I was using a Gigabyte motherboard, and the board seems like a bad
 choice.  What do you guys recommend for a decent server board that
 would use a Dual Core processor and DDR2 ram.  I dont want to
replace
 the CPU and Mem i already have, just find a decent board that
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Re: [CentOS] Best Motherboard

[John Plemons]

I guess one question is, what is your budget??  Makes a big difference 
in the quality that you get...



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Rudi Ahlers wrote:

Sam Drinkard wrote:



Ryan Nichols wrote:

To all..
 
I was using a Gigabyte motherboard, and the board seems like a bad 
choice.  What do you guys recommend for a decent server board that 
would use a Dual Core processor and DDR2 ram.  I dont want to 
replace the CPU and Mem i already have, just find a decent board 
that supportsthe existing..
 
Thanks,

Ryan Nichols


Ryan,

   About 2 years ago, I build a server using a SuperMicro X6DA8-2 
motherboard and it is a dual xeon processor machine with capabilities 
of 16G of DDR2 memory.  It has dual gigabit ethernet ports, 6 usb 2.0 
ports and a dual SATA controller as well as regular IDE bussmaster 
capabilities.  I've been very happy with it, and at the time, it was 
not that expensive a board with the 2 cpu's on it.  A couple months 
ago, I recased the thing back into a SuperMicro case that was 
optimized for that board and I wish now I'd done it when I first 
built it.  One problem I had with it was the cpu cooler fans.  The 
original ones were made by Intel, and they were noisy, terribly out 
of balance and downright bad.  I replaced them with 4-pin PWM fans 
from SuperMicro and that machine is so quiet now, I have to feel of 
it to make sure it's running.  The thing runs about 90 degrees 
operating and with the fans set up on the super quiet mode, it never 
even breaks a sweat.  There is another version of the board that has 
a SCSI controller on board, but only one gigabit ethernet port.  
Everything else is pretty much the same.  I highly recommend 
SuperMIcro boards and cases.  Probably a bit more expensive than some 
of the others, but in a server, I want quality, so I pay for what I get.


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Re: [CentOS] Best Motherboard

[John Plemons]

If interested, I have some new IBM's still under warranty, a couple of 
New Dells, and one or two new HP's


john




John R Pierce wrote:

Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:

On 05/15/2008 04:24 PM, Sam Drinkard wrote:
 
   About 2 years ago, I build a server 

[...]

What are the advantages of building your own server comparing with
products from HP, Dell and IBM? Is it cheaper?

I never heard of DIY server hardware market.
  


Well, there is always the category of home servers...  in my case, 
these are usually handmedown PCs, old, too slow to be a modern 
desktop, but perfectly usefull as firewalls, DNS/mail/web servers, 
etc.   My current home server is a 10 year old P2 450Mhz rock solid 
board. But, I'd never use something like this in a business where 
its mission critical.


I, for one (an opinionated one at that:D) do NOT recommend homebrewing 
proper rackmount servers from raw parts...  storage integration issues 
alone can break a project like that.


there's a middle ground... folks like Intel and Tyan make 'server 
bases', or kit servers, which comes with the rack chassis, hotswap 
backplanes, disk drive trays, mainboard and power supply, you just 
supply the CPUs, RAM, disk drives, and any extra cards you need.


6 or so years ago I built up and deployed a pair of Intel SE7501WV2 2U 
kits in my development lab at work, with dual xeon 2.8ghz and 3GB 
ram.   these machines have run flawlessly running RHEL/CentOS.   My 
department had no capital budget, and we could get these kit servers 
on 'expense' money, then populate them with our 'misc' budget.
fully configured these were way under 1/2 what we'd have paid for a 
comparable HP or Dell.   This would be the equivalent system with 
today's chipset and CPUs, 
http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/platforms/SR1500-2500/index.htm 
(the SR2500AL).  The SKU SR2500ALLXR (2U, mobo, 1 of 2 PSUs, and 5 x 
SATA/SAS 3.5 hotswap backplane)  goes for $1300-1600 street prices 
(wow, just about what I paid for the SE7501WV2 6 years ago! hmmm, when 
I bought mine, the slimline CD was standard, now its optional, oh well)


these Intel server kits are even setup so you can 'brand' them for VAR 
applications, they have downloads that let you put your own name on 
the BIOS startup and so forth.   In fact, the SE7501 2U servers I have 
were branded by Sun when they initially reentered the x86 server 
market, as the SunFire V65x


What you get with a brand name server (HP, Dell, etc) is a warranty 
and onsite support.This is critical to some deployments and sites, 
and fairly superfluous to others.

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Re: [CentOS] Best Motherboard

[John Plemons]

Oh and for the rest of you to think about, a Tyan system, with 8 dual 
core CPU's, and 128 gig of Ram... Also New...


John



John R Pierce wrote:

Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:

On 05/15/2008 04:24 PM, Sam Drinkard wrote:
 
   About 2 years ago, I build a server 

[...]

What are the advantages of building your own server comparing with
products from HP, Dell and IBM? Is it cheaper?

I never heard of DIY server hardware market.
  


Well, there is always the category of home servers...  in my case, 
these are usually handmedown PCs, old, too slow to be a modern 
desktop, but perfectly usefull as firewalls, DNS/mail/web servers, 
etc.   My current home server is a 10 year old P2 450Mhz rock solid 
board. But, I'd never use something like this in a business where 
its mission critical.


I, for one (an opinionated one at that:D) do NOT recommend homebrewing 
proper rackmount servers from raw parts...  storage integration issues 
alone can break a project like that.


there's a middle ground... folks like Intel and Tyan make 'server 
bases', or kit servers, which comes with the rack chassis, hotswap 
backplanes, disk drive trays, mainboard and power supply, you just 
supply the CPUs, RAM, disk drives, and any extra cards you need.


6 or so years ago I built up and deployed a pair of Intel SE7501WV2 2U 
kits in my development lab at work, with dual xeon 2.8ghz and 3GB 
ram.   these machines have run flawlessly running RHEL/CentOS.   My 
department had no capital budget, and we could get these kit servers 
on 'expense' money, then populate them with our 'misc' budget.
fully configured these were way under 1/2 what we'd have paid for a 
comparable HP or Dell.   This would be the equivalent system with 
today's chipset and CPUs, 
http://developer.intel.com/design/servers/platforms/SR1500-2500/index.htm 
(the SR2500AL).  The SKU SR2500ALLXR (2U, mobo, 1 of 2 PSUs, and 5 x 
SATA/SAS 3.5 hotswap backplane)  goes for $1300-1600 street prices 
(wow, just about what I paid for the SE7501WV2 6 years ago! hmmm, when 
I bought mine, the slimline CD was standard, now its optional, oh well)


these Intel server kits are even setup so you can 'brand' them for VAR 
applications, they have downloads that let you put your own name on 
the BIOS startup and so forth.   In fact, the SE7501 2U servers I have 
were branded by Sun when they initially reentered the x86 server 
market, as the SunFire V65x


What you get with a brand name server (HP, Dell, etc) is a warranty 
and onsite support.This is critical to some deployments and sites, 
and fairly superfluous to others.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: sendmail aliases

[John Plemons]

Real simple answer, switch to Postfix and dump sendmail.  Then edit your 
alias file to add the aliases, run newaliases and you're done...


john











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Scott Silva wrote:

on 4-2-2008 4:41 AM Brent L. Bates spake the following:
 Sendmail used to automatically compare creation dates of the 
text and
database aliases files and when the text one was newer than the 
database one,
sendmail would automatically update the database file at a convenient 
time.
 This made a lot of sense.  However, the powers that be decided to 
break this

great feature and removed it.  I copied it back into to source we use.

Many newer distros add that functionality to the init scripts. I seem 
to recall that option had some bad side effects, and that is why 
sendmail removed it. I wish I could remember what the problem was.




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Re: [CentOS] Re: sendmail aliases

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Having used and configured both Send mail and Postfix, sendmail was and 
had it's issues. I found it much easier to work with on Open Relays for 
example, the draw back with Sendmail and Postfix may be along the lines 
of Windows and a Mac, there are bunches of Windows machines in the world 
so every little hacker writes viruses for them.  There are very few Mac 
Viruses... 

I'm sure there are more people writing hacks and cracks to break into 
sendmail more so than Postfix, so in the scheme of things Postfix may 
just be a better choice.  Like Mozilla over IE...   Thunderbird over 
Outlook


Not a flame, just a thought


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Chris Miller wrote:

John Plemons wrote:
Real simple answer, switch to Postfix and dump sendmail.  Then edit 
your alias file to add the aliases, run newaliases and you're done...


I just don't understand why people still gripe about Sendmail. Yeah, 
it was a force to be reckoned with in the early days, but it's stupid 
simple to configure these days, and it's pretty much the default in 
most *nix distributions. Aside from some folks being intimidated by 
the thought of mc files and running m4, it's pretty much *as simple* 
to configure as Postfix.


If Postfix works for you, hey great, you're free to run whatever you 
want. Telling someone to switch MTAs in the context of how do I 
restore previous functionality in a program I choose to use is not 
very constructive.


Not trying to start a flame war or anything, but just had to say 
something.


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Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for a “real R AID 1 card on Centos box

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Once you get a handle on what you are after check back with me, I have a 
bunch of Raid controllers I picked up from a systems dealer who went out 
of business.  Some LSI's ICP, ICP says they are an Adaptec company and a 
couple of other off brands...  May be able to save you a few bucks, all 
are new, oem style...



john
















Therese Trudeau wrote:

Hi,

I'm considering setting up my Centos Desktop machine for RAID 1.  I read a lot 
of good info at this 
site:http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html#intel-vitesse about 
differences in fakeraid and real raid cards.

The hardware I plan on installing this RAID card into is an Intel DP35DP 
motherboard with the Intel E4500 dual core processor, and I have two Mator 500 
gig SATA hard drives.

Can anyone recommend a good “real raid” card for my Linux?  What I am looking 
for is to plug in a RAID controller card out of the box, and without having to 
load any drivers onto my Centos 5.1 box, have the Real hardware RAID card  
automatically do all the work, mirror my hard drive onto the second backup 
drive and do all the work for me.

Do such cards exist?   If so which model /manufacturers do you recommend? Any 
experiences/info/insights on hardware RAID cards good or bad on centos boxes 
would be appreciated.

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Re: [CentOS] Migrate Outlook Express mail to Thunderbird?

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Have you tried the Thunderbird import tool??  It has a Outlook toggle 
and should handle the file..  It is under the tools drop down, and is 
called Import...


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Niki Kovacs wrote:

Hi,

A friend's laptop just quit working under Windows XP, so I 1) booted a 
Knoppix Live CD 2) configured the thing for my LAN 3) scp'ed 
recursively Documents\ and\ Settings/, 4) wiped the hard disk clean 
and 5) installed CentOS 5.1. No dual-boot, no prisoners, just 100% 
GNU/Linux :oD


I managed to find the contents of the Outlook Express Mailboxes in 
some obscure subdirectory. It's a series of files in .dbx format. Is 
there any hope to convert these so I can import them into Thunderbird?


Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Migrate Outlook Express mail to Thunderbird?

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From Mozilla...


   Linux utilities

There are several open source utilities to convert .pst files to mbox 
files such as readpst http://kontact.kde.org/kmail/tools.php , libpst 
http://alioth.debian.org/projects/libpst/Libpst and Outport 
http://outport.sourceforge.net/ . Thunderbird uses a separate mbox 
file for each folder to store all of the messages for that folder. None 
of those utilities seem to be under active development and they only 
support some of the versions of .pst files. You can use the 
ImportExporttools 
http://nic-nac-project.de/%7Ekaosmos/mboximport-en.html extension to 
import the mbox files.



john plemons










Mogens Kjaer wrote:

John Plemons wrote:
Have you tried the Thunderbird import tool??  It has a Outlook toggle 
and should handle the file..  It is under the tools drop down, and is 
called Import...


Isn't it just when you run Thunderbird on Windows that
you have this tool? My Linux thunderbird can only import
from Communicator 4.x (whatever that is).

Mogens
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Re: [CentOS] Migrate Outlook Express mail to Thunderbird?

[John Plemons]

Might be a stretch, but can you convert the Outlook Express Files into 
Outlook .pst format?  From there you may get you conversion...


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Mogens Kjaer wrote:

John Plemons wrote:
...
There are several open source utilities to convert .pst files to mbox 
files such as readpst http://kontact.kde.org/kmail/tools.php , libpst 

...

Outlook _Express_ doesn't use .pst files, Outlook does.

Mogens

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Re: [CentOS] 5.0 - 5.1

[John Plemons]

Yum upgrade

john














Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:


   Hi folks,

   I have a production server that's currently running 5.0 with all 
updates.  What's the easiest, or perhaps best way to upgrade it to 
5.1, with minimal down time?  The downtime is critical, so I need to 
have it be a short as possible.  I can live with an hour or two, but 
larger is going to be a pain.


   Suggestions?


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Re: [CentOS] install webmin

[John Plemons]

Just download from Webmin.com let the package manager do the work for 
you..  Use the basic RPM download


john











Hiep Nguyen wrote:

hi all,

how do i install webmin using yum?

i tried: yum search webmin, but not found.

it must be on a different repos. what repos do i need to add to see 
this package.


thanks
t. hiep


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Re: [CentOS] Re: Breaking Windows XP user password?

[John Plemons]

I have used a free password cracking service that was found in Google...

It is a free service if you want to wait the 72 hours for the password, 
if you need it ASAP, they do that for a fee..  ($29.95)


http://www.loginrecovery.com/

You create a boot disk that retrieves the info from the machine you are 
trying to recover the password from, then you upload to the 
http://www.loginrecovery.com site and wait...


There is also a neat trick that I found on the web again by searching, 
you will need the install CD and will start a install in the machine, at 
one point there is a Window where you hit Alt F10 if my memory is 
correct and it takes you into the machines user utility where you can 
reset and change passwords as you wish...  Sorry did it about a year ago 
and don't remember the specifics, but it too was found in a google search...


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Scott Silva wrote:

on 1/24/2008 6:10 AM Scott Ehrlich spake the following:
Granted this is not a UNIX system, but in case there is a UNIX tool 
to accomplish the goal...


I am looking for a bootable CD/DVD (or application to be placed on a 
CD/DVD to be made bootable) that can let me mount a Windows XP 
drive/partition (SP1 or SP2), and force-crack the admin password 
(even if admin account name has been changed, but I know what it has 
been changed to).  The application cannot write to the hard drive - 
only mount it read-only, read the password file into ram, and show 
the cracked password.


I know I can use the pnordahl utility to try and force-change the 
password, but I actually want to crack it.


The utility should be free.

This is a legal request.

Thanks for leads.

Scott
XP passwords are stored as hashes. You need to brute-force guess and 
compare the created hashes to the stored ones.
If the user has the same password stored in programs like outlook 
express, that is much easier.


But forensically, changing the password to gain access is usually 
sufficient.  Knowing the original password is not that valuable in a 
legal scenario, as you will need a warrant anyway to access anything 
else that might be protected by that password.


If it is that critical, find a certified PC forensics specialist. One 
misstep on your part will make the evidence worthless in court.




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[CentOS] New machine dying on boot.... - CPU 0 not enough memory for domain -

[John Plemons]

I am playing with a new machine I just got in and it is dying on boot... 


I'm wondering if it is to much machine for Centos to run..

It is a Generic machine using a Tyan Thunder motherboard running (8) 
eight dual core AMD 855 cpu's with 128 gig of ram, not 128 meg, but 128 
gig of ram. (2) SCSI 146 Seagate Drives.  ATI Graphics built onto the board.


The error I'm seeing is on loading the Kernel, I get a message that says 
CPU 0 not enough memory for domain


I'm lost with 128 gig of ram I'd think there is plenty of memory...

The load is a fresh install ( today ) of Centos 5 - x86_64 version

Used the defaults on all of the items it is vanilla as can be, yet it 
chokes and dies...


As for the machine, it is a new machine that I just picked up, I'm 
loading Centos to make sure it is working correctly...



thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] New machine dying on boot.... - CPU 0 not enough memory for domain -

[John Plemons]

All the memory tested OK , no errors...

john













Neil Aggarwal wrote:

John:

I have had strange problems like this from a bad
or mis-seated memory stick.

Run a memtest and see if it gives you an errors.

Neil

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Subject: [CentOS] New machine dying on boot - CPU 0 not 
enough memory for domain -


I am playing with a new machine I just got in and it is dying 
on boot... 


I'm wondering if it is to much machine for Centos to run..

It is a Generic machine using a Tyan Thunder motherboard running (8) 
eight dual core AMD 855 cpu's with 128 gig of ram, not 128 
meg, but 128 
gig of ram. (2) SCSI 146 Seagate Drives.  ATI Graphics built 
onto the board.


The error I'm seeing is on loading the Kernel, I get a 
message that says 
CPU 0 not enough memory for domain


I'm lost with 128 gig of ram I'd think there is plenty of memory...

The load is a fresh install ( today ) of Centos 5 - x86_64 version

Used the defaults on all of the items it is vanilla as can be, yet it 
chokes and dies...


As for the machine, it is a new machine that I just picked up, I'm 
loading Centos to make sure it is working correctly...



thanks,
john






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Re: [CentOS] New machine dying on boot.... - CPU 0 not enough memory for domain -

[John Plemons]

Interesting that the error didn't show up during the install of the OS, 
Centos saw all of the CPU's, the memory and didn't blink once.  I did an 
install everything, maybe I should back off and reduce the role of the 
machine.  Perhaps there is something trying to load in the Kernel it 
doesn't like..


john












Neil Aggarwal wrote:

John:

I have had strange problems like this from a bad
or mis-seated memory stick.

Run a memtest and see if it gives you an errors.

Neil

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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:37 PM
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Subject: [CentOS] New machine dying on boot - CPU 0 not 
enough memory for domain -


I am playing with a new machine I just got in and it is dying 
on boot... 


I'm wondering if it is to much machine for Centos to run..

It is a Generic machine using a Tyan Thunder motherboard running (8) 
eight dual core AMD 855 cpu's with 128 gig of ram, not 128 
meg, but 128 
gig of ram. (2) SCSI 146 Seagate Drives.  ATI Graphics built 
onto the board.


The error I'm seeing is on loading the Kernel, I get a 
message that says 
CPU 0 not enough memory for domain


I'm lost with 128 gig of ram I'd think there is plenty of memory...

The load is a fresh install ( today ) of Centos 5 - x86_64 version

Used the defaults on all of the items it is vanilla as can be, yet it 
chokes and dies...


As for the machine, it is a new machine that I just picked up, I'm 
loading Centos to make sure it is working correctly...



thanks,
john






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Re: [CentOS] New machine dying on boot.... - CPU 0 not enough memoryfor domain -

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I ran the test prior to trying to do the OS load...  I defaulted to the 
mem test on board, it ran 4-5 times, guessing about 15 minutes per run...


john







Neil Aggarwal wrote:

John:
 
That was too quick.  Did you run the test before?
 
What test did you use?
 
Neil
 


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All the memory tested OK , no errors...

john













Neil Aggarwal wrote:

John:

I have had strange problems like this from a bad
or mis-seated memory stick.

Run a memtest and see if it gives you an errors.

Neil

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Subject: [CentOS] New machine dying on boot - CPU 0 not 
enough memory for domain -


I am playing with a new machine I just got in and it is dying 
on boot... 


I'm wondering if it is to much machine for Centos to run..

It is a Generic machine using a Tyan Thunder motherboard running (8) 
eight dual core AMD 855 cpu's with 128 gig of ram, not 128 
meg, but 128 
gig of ram. (2) SCSI 146 Seagate Drives.  ATI Graphics built 
onto the board.


The error I'm seeing is on loading the Kernel, I get a 
message that says 
CPU 0 not enough memory for domain


I'm lost with 128 gig of ram I'd think there is plenty of memory...

The load is a fresh install ( today ) of Centos 5 - x86_64 version

Used the defaults on all of the items it is vanilla as can be, yet it 
chokes and dies...


As for the machine, it is a new machine that I just picked up, I'm 
loading Centos to make sure it is working correctly...



thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] webmin

[John Plemons]

From your Centos browser, just go to *http://www.webmin.com* download 
the rpm and install using the default installer...  Not a big trick a 
very easy install.


Once installed you can access the program via *https:// your ip or web 
name:1 *


login and away you go...

Thanks,
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Hiep Nguyen wrote:
hi there, i just insalled centos 4.5 minimal, but want to use yum to 
install webmin?  anybody know how??


i try: yum install webmin but not found.

thanks,
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