Re: [CentOS] Hot upgrade from 5.2 Centos to 5.7 Centos

2011-10-19 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 10/18/2011 9:15 PM, Barry Brimer wrote:
 Hello Group,

 I am installed some application running on top of Centos 5.2 OS and these
 applications are running fine.  However, we are thinking of upgrading our
 5.2 Centos to 5.7 (hot upgrade).  That is we want to upgrade from 5.2 Centos
 to 5.7 Centos and not disturb the applications.

 Is it possible?  Could someone please help.
 It is rare for a 'yum update' to disturb already working applications.
 It is possible of course, but the point of 'enterprise' distributions
 is that a lot of care is taken to not break things (i.e. make changes
 that aren't backwards compatible) within a major release version.

 Not sure if it is necessary but there were some quirks in the updates
 along the way that might make it a good idea to:

 yum update glibc\* rpm\* yum\* python\*
 before doing a full 'yum update'.
 I might suggest a yum clean all before the above command.  I've seen a 5.0 
 yum update to a 5.6 without issue, but there was very little on the 
 server.

Actually, I generally do something like this when there is a new version
of yum:

yum clean all
yum update glibc\* rpm\* yum\* python\*
yum clean all
yum update

This lets the new yum version recreate everything so there are less
likely to be any issues.

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[CentOS] Hot upgrade from 5.2 Centos to 5.7 Centos

2011-10-18 Thread Vinay Nagrik
Hello Group,

I am installed some application running on top of Centos 5.2 OS and these
applications are running fine.  However, we are thinking of upgrading our
5.2 Centos to 5.7 (hot upgrade).  That is we want to upgrade from 5.2 Centos
to 5.7 Centos and not disturb the applications.

Is it possible?  Could someone please help.

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Re: [CentOS] Hot upgrade from 5.2 Centos to 5.7 Centos

2011-10-18 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/18/11 3:02 PM, Vinay Nagrik wrote:
 I am installed some application running on top of Centos 5.2 OS and these
 applications are running fine.  However, we are thinking of upgrading our
 5.2 Centos to 5.7 (hot upgrade).  That is we want to upgrade from 5.2 Centos
 to 5.7 Centos and not disturb the applications.

 Is it possible?  Could someone please help.

assuming those applications didn't replace system files that are under 
RPM management, then a yum update should be just fine.

I recently upgraded a system that had been left at 5.4 a little too 
long, and found I had to update yum and some other things first, before 
the full yum update would work, I also had to do a yum cleanall after 
that update of yum itself.

do watch the output of the yum update for `rpmnew` files, and diff each 
of these with your system files, and merge the changes manually (I 
usually copy my stuff from the old file to the rpmnew file, then mv 
x.rpm x...)   this is typically .conf files.


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Re: [CentOS] Hot upgrade from 5.2 Centos to 5.7 Centos

2011-10-18 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 10/19/2011 12:18 AM, John R Pierce piše:
 On 10/18/11 3:02 PM, Vinay Nagrik wrote:
 I am installed some application running on top of Centos 5.2 OS and these
 applications are running fine.  However, we are thinking of upgrading our
 5.2 Centos to 5.7 (hot upgrade).  That is we want to upgrade from 5.2 Centos
 to 5.7 Centos and not disturb the applications.

 Is it possible?  Could someone please help.

 assuming those applications didn't replace system files that are under
 RPM management, then a yum update should be just fine.

 I recently upgraded a system that had been left at 5.4 a little too
 long, and found I had to update yum and some other things first, before
 the full yum update would work, I also had to do a yum cleanall after
 that update of yum itself.

 do watch the output of the yum update for `rpmnew` files, and diff each
 of these with your system files, and merge the changes manually (I
 usually copy my stuff from the old file to the rpmnew file, then mv
 x.rpm x...)   this is typically .conf files.



Shouldn't he run yum upgrade instead of update? upgrade will take into 
account any possible obsoletes.

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Re: [CentOS] Hot upgrade from 5.2 Centos to 5.7 Centos

2011-10-18 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/18/11 4:16 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Shouldn't he run yum upgrade instead of update? upgrade will take into
 account any possible obsoletes.

as far as I know, those are equivalent.

upgrade is equivalent to update with --obsoletes   and --obsoletes is 
true by default:

 # grep obsoletes /etc/yum.conf
 obsoletes=1


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Re: [CentOS] Hot upgrade from 5.2 Centos to 5.7 Centos

2011-10-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Vinay Nagrik vnag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Group,

 I am installed some application running on top of Centos 5.2 OS and these
 applications are running fine.  However, we are thinking of upgrading our
 5.2 Centos to 5.7 (hot upgrade).  That is we want to upgrade from 5.2 Centos
 to 5.7 Centos and not disturb the applications.

 Is it possible?  Could someone please help.

It is rare for a 'yum update' to disturb already working applications.
 It is possible of course, but the point of 'enterprise' distributions
is that a lot of care is taken to not break things (i.e. make changes
that aren't backwards compatible) within a major release version.

Not sure if it is necessary but there were some quirks in the updates
along the way that might make it a good idea to:

yum update glibc\* rpm\* yum\* python\*
before doing a full 'yum update'.

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Re: [CentOS] Hot upgrade from 5.2 Centos to 5.7 Centos

2011-10-18 Thread Barry Brimer

Hello Group,

I am installed some application running on top of Centos 5.2 OS and these
applications are running fine.  However, we are thinking of upgrading our
5.2 Centos to 5.7 (hot upgrade).  That is we want to upgrade from 5.2 Centos
to 5.7 Centos and not disturb the applications.

Is it possible?  Could someone please help.


It is rare for a 'yum update' to disturb already working applications.
It is possible of course, but the point of 'enterprise' distributions
is that a lot of care is taken to not break things (i.e. make changes
that aren't backwards compatible) within a major release version.

Not sure if it is necessary but there were some quirks in the updates
along the way that might make it a good idea to:

yum update glibc\* rpm\* yum\* python\*
before doing a full 'yum update'.


I might suggest a yum clean all before the above command.  I've seen a 5.0 
yum update to a 5.6 without issue, but there was very little on the 
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