Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-08 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/12/8 William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Often, in a desktop environment, just a telnet 3, telnet 5 command

You probably mean telinit 3 and telinit 5.

But we are talking to a veteran of FreeBSD so he probably knows such
stuff already, shouldn't he?

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-08 Thread William L. Maltby

On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 22:51 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote:
 2008/12/8 William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Often, in a desktop environment, just a telnet 3, telnet 5 command
 
 You probably mean telinit 3 and telinit 5.

Yep. My fingers (or brain) slurred that one! :-(

 
 But we are talking to a veteran of FreeBSD so he probably knows such
 stuff already, shouldn't he?

You'd be surprised. A lot just do init, which is also correct. I don't
know why there was ever a distinction though. AFAICR, telinit has always
been a link (hard or soft) to init. I've never looked into the code to
see if argv[0] causes any change in code execution.

 
 Cheers,
 
 --Amos
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Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-08 Thread MHR
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:10 AM, William L. Maltby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 22:51 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote:
 2008/12/8 William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Often, in a desktop environment, just a telnet 3, telnet 5 command

 You probably mean telinit 3 and telinit 5.

 Yep. My fingers (or brain) slurred that one! :-(


Stop drinking with your fingers and crossing your brain so much!

;^)

mhr
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[CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-07 Thread Darrell Betts
I have been using Freebsd for along time. I have a client of mine that  
wants me to use Centos for his email server and web server. Anyway  
with Freebsd to update the packages file you use the following commands.
portsnap fetch fetches all the current port trees
portsnap update adds all the new ports to the tree on the server
portupgrade -arR will install all the ports that are installed on the  
server.
  Now my question is what are the commands for Centos to fetch ,update  
and install, all the packages installed on the server. I would like to  
use Yum. Any help would be great.

Thanks

Darrell Betts
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Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-07 Thread Tosh
Darrell Betts wrote:
 I have been using Freebsd for along time. I have a client of mine that
 wants me to use Centos for his email server and web server. Anyway
 with Freebsd to update the packages file you use the following commands.
 portsnap fetch fetches all the current port trees
 portsnap update adds all the new ports to the tree on the server
 portupgrade -arR will install all the ports that are installed on the
 server.
Now my question is what are the commands for Centos to fetch ,update
 and install, all the packages installed on the server. I would like to
 use Yum. Any help would be great.

 Thanks

 Darrell Betts
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Looks like I Picked the Wrong Week to Stop Sniffing Glue.
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simply yum update, this compares your packages with the package server 
(repo) and downloads and updates all packages to the latest version
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Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-07 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Darrell Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have been using Freebsd for along time. I have a client of mine that
 wants me to use Centos for his email server and web server. Anyway
 with Freebsd to update the packages file you use the following commands.
 portsnap fetch fetches all the current port trees
 portsnap update adds all the new ports to the tree on the server
 portupgrade -arR will install all the ports that are installed on the
 server.
  Now my question is what are the commands for Centos to fetch ,update
 and install, all the packages installed on the server. I would like to
 use Yum. Any help would be great.

yum update will do it for you. Normally, you will not need to reboot
after updating, unless you update the kernel or several other packages
that require a reboot.
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Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-07 Thread Barry Brimer
  Now my question is what are the commands for Centos to fetch ,update
 and install, all the packages installed on the server. I would like to
 use Yum. Any help would be great.

Welcome Darrell.  Here is the summary version:

To install a specific package, such as postfix from a repository that 
you are configured to get packages from use:

yum install postfix

To update to the newest version of postfix that is in your configured 
repositories use:

yum update postfix

To update everything in repositories that are configured on your machine 
use:

yum update

If you are moving between point releases (CentOS 5.1 to CentOS 5.2) use:

yum upgrade

Hope this helps.

Barry
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Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-07 Thread Niki Kovacs
Darrell Betts a écrit :

   Now my question is what are the commands for Centos to fetch ,update  
 and install, all the packages installed on the server. I would like to  
 use Yum. Any help would be great.
 

I wrote an abstract on basic Yum usage. It's in French, but it's not 
hard to guess what the command line bits mean:

http://www.microlinux.fr/article.php3?id_article=40

Knowing how to handle RPM can also come in quite useful sometimes:

http://www.microlinux.fr/article.php3?id_article=39

Cheers,

Niki Kovacs
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Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-07 Thread Vandaman
Darrell Betts  wrote:

   Now my question is what are the commands for Centos to
 fetch ,update  
 and install, all the packages installed on the server. I
 would like to  
 use Yum. Any help would be great.
 

Try yum --help and man yum which have a lot of info. Also the 
CentOS docs on http://www.centos.org/docs/ has yum docs.

So if you for just install CentOS 4.7 from the ServerCD and do

# yum check-update

it will give you a list of packages to be updated, which you can
do by

# yum update

and then say yes or no. Welcome to CentOS BTW.

Regards,
Vandaman.


  

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Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-07 Thread William L. Maltby

On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 12:21 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote:
 snip

   Now my question is what are the commands for Centos to fetch ,update
  and install, all the packages installed on the server. I would like to
  use Yum. Any help would be great.
 
 yum update will do it for you. Normally, you will not need to reboot
 after updating, unless you update the kernel or several other packages
 that require a reboot.

Also, if a package that is currently running has been updated, or that
package is currently using a package which has been updated and you want
the currently running things to start using the new stuff _now_, you'll
want to restart those packages. Until those packages end, disk space and
ram memory is not finally freed.

Sometimes it is hard to tell if that situation exists and a re-boot is
just faster and certainly simpler than identifying, stopping, starting
tons of stuff.

Often, in a desktop environment, just a telnet 3, telnet 5 command
sequence will get most of that done. Faster than reboot, takes care of
desktop related stuff without the manual investigate, kill, start steps.

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Re: [CentOS] New to Centos and have question about updating packages

2008-12-07 Thread John R Pierce
William L. Maltby wrote:
 Also, if a package that is currently running has been updated, or that
 package is currently using a package which has been updated and you want
 the currently running things to start using the new stuff _now_, you'll
 want to restart those packages. Until those packages end, disk space and
 ram memory is not finally freed.
   

many service RPMs seem to do the restart automatically, I've noticed 
this with Postgres servers, at least.   of course, restarting a database 
server can interrupt any running processes that are using it... 
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