Re: [CentOS] OT: Would you purchase this hardware?

2014-10-15 Thread SilverTip257
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:56 PM, John R Pierce  wrote:

> On 10/14/2014 4:42 PM, SilverTip257 wrote:
>
>> Isn't the iLO access on the HP Microservers restricted once an OS is
>> installed on the device? [0]
>>
>
> I have the earlier version Microserver, it doesn't have any iLO at all, so
> I dunno what functionality the gen8 provides.  At home, iLO wouldn't be of
> much use to me.
>

iLO would only be useful to me when I'm at work or out of the area and not
at home.
Realistically at work I do 98% of configuration via SSH (that's server and
router/switch configuration), so who am I kidding I want IPMI on a
microserver (for home). :-D

Dual GigE is nice, but I'd really prefer an Intel NIC! ;-)
[ Almost all of the gently used Dell server gear my employer has is
Broadcom based.  Hence the wink smiley. ]


>
> I have various REAL Proliant DL servers and I always buy the iLO licenses
> for them, as having a full remote console for a remotely deployed server
> saves me a LOT of late night trips when things go sideways.


Right on.
I'm somewhat spoiled with all the remote management/configuration that be
done via IPMI/SoL.
( Which is why I'm asking about the iLO feature set the gen8's ship with. )

Thanks for the info John.

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Would you purchase this hardware?

2014-10-14 Thread John R Pierce

btw, full specs on the gen8...
http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c04128132

looks like the gne8 has two gigE ethernet ports, one shared with the 
iLO.  The ethernet is a BCM5720 which I assume without looking up is a 
Broadcom thing.




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Re: [CentOS] OT: Would you purchase this hardware?

2014-10-14 Thread John R Pierce

On 10/14/2014 4:42 PM, SilverTip257 wrote:

Isn't the iLO access on the HP Microservers restricted once an OS is
installed on the device? [0]


I have the earlier version Microserver, it doesn't have any iLO at all, 
so I dunno what functionality the gen8 provides.  At home, iLO wouldn't 
be of much use to me.


I have various REAL Proliant DL servers and I always buy the iLO 
licenses for them, as having a full remote console for a remotely 
deployed server saves me a LOT of late night trips when things go sideways.


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Re: [CentOS] OT: Would you purchase this hardware?

2014-10-14 Thread SilverTip257
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:56 PM, John R Pierce  wrote:

> On 10/14/2014 3:39 PM, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:
>
>> I have about $1200 to spend on 2 boxes and I'd like them to be identical.
>> Very basic web serving, simple HTML5 video, light email serving. Looking
>> around NewEgg, I come across:
>>
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&;
> DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=hp+microserver+gen8&N=-1&isNodeId=1
>
> nice low power efficient boxes that hold 4 3.5" SATA hard drives. you can
> put up to 2 x 8GB dimms in them, and they have 1 short PCI-e slot.
>

@John Pierce (or anyone else who knows):

Isn't the iLO access on the HP Microservers restricted once an OS is
installed on the device? [0]

I read somewhere about needing to purchase an iLO license to allow full
functionality.  I got the impression that the iLO functionality that was
available was really only helpful for installing an OS ... and not for
Serial Over LAN once the OS was installed.  (Is that right or wrong?)

Best I recall the author did not mention anything about a RAC card (so it
was not likely that separate part/device).

[0]
https://h20392.www2.hp.com/portal/swdepot/displayProductInfo.do?productNumber=ILO_TRIALS

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Re: [CentOS] OT: Would you purchase this hardware?

2014-10-14 Thread John R Pierce

On 10/14/2014 3:39 PM, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote:

I have about $1200 to spend on 2 boxes and I'd like them to be identical.
Very basic web serving, simple HTML5 video, light email serving. Looking
around NewEgg, I come across:


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=hp+microserver+gen8&N=-1&isNodeId=1

nice low power efficient boxes that hold 4 3.5" SATA hard drives. you 
can put up to 2 x 8GB dimms in them, and they have 1 short PCI-e slot.



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[CentOS] OT: Would you purchase this hardware?

2014-10-14 Thread Jason T. Slack-Moehrle
I have about $1200 to spend on 2 boxes and I'd like them to be identical.
Very basic web serving, simple HTML5 video, light email serving. Looking
around NewEgg, I come across:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA65C1ZT3064

These use ECC unbuffered RAM which is expensive but I did find 8gb sticks
for under $70 each:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820613386

I'd still have to add hard drives and more RAM and 2nd GB NICS. I also
found out the power supply is non standard so if it goes in order to put in
a standard power supply you need an adaptor:
http://www.moddiy.com/products/IBM-Lenovo-PSU-Main-Power-24%252dPin-to-14%252dPin-Adapter-Cable-%2830cm%29.html

I haven't purchased hardware in 2 years. I could even use a desktop system
versus this "server" class. I feel like by time I add more to each box to
make it run perhaps there is a better machine to buy?

Anyway if anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it. These are personal
funds, I don't want to make a poor decision.

Jason
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