Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-29 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor
HmmmI think the worst for me would have been back in the "Exchange 
Server Admin" days, where you're asked to CREATE a mailing list, but 
instead I go in, see that there's FOUR lists with the SAME name (not 
thinking that this might be different departments on the SAME server) 
and I go and DELETE them, and then create the one requested. Needless to 
say? I was "restricted" from entering the data center, much less 
TOUCHING the Exchange server for about THREE MONTHS!!







EGO II

On 12/27/20 10:26 AM, Strahil Nikolov via CentOS wrote:

Then let's make a little contest out of it: what's the most stupid thing >you've
done as a system administrator ?

1)

rm -rf /prodnfs_mountpoint/*

Thankfully, it had some delay before deleting ,so "Ctrl + C" almost broke on my 
keyboard.

2) Powered off primary prod DB instead of the stanby which usually has planned 
downtime 3 times per year :)

3) wiped the whole VM during my RHCSA (paid with my own money) with only 40 min 
left

  
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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-27 Thread Strahil Nikolov via CentOS
>Then let's make a little contest out of it: what's the most stupid thing 
>>you've
>done as a system administrator ?
1)

rm -rf /prodnfs_mountpoint/*

Thankfully, it had some delay before deleting ,so "Ctrl + C" almost broke on my 
keyboard.

2) Powered off primary prod DB instead of the stanby which usually has planned 
downtime 3 times per year :)

3) wiped the whole VM during my RHCSA (paid with my own money) with only 40 min 
left

 
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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS

On 26/12/2020 18:56, Frank Cox wrote:

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 12:25:50 -0600
Valeri Galtsev wrote:


Then let's make a little contest out of it: what's the most stupid thing you've
done as a system administrator ?


Cleaning up some obsolete users on a system that accepts remote ssh logins and 
somehow managing to remove my own ssh key too.  Which I discovered about ten 
minutes later when I went to log in again and found that I had locked myself 
out.



Not one I did, but one I was part of.  A co-worker and I were discussing 
something or other (might even have been work related) leaning on top 
one of the VAX 11/750s in the machine room.  They are just a convenient 
elbow height.  Suddenly the console spewed into life, and for some 
strange reason the system was booting.  Oops, my co-worker had managed 
to press their stomach against the reset button!


Mind, I can also recall the same co-worker sorting out a hardware 
problem that had been baffling the engineers for an hour - the on-off 
switch was in the off position!


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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 12:25:50 -0600
Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> Then let's make a little contest out of it: what's the most stupid thing 
> you've
> done as a system administrator ?

Cleaning up some obsolete users on a system that accepts remote ssh logins and 
somehow managing to remove my own ssh key too.  Which I discovered about ten 
minutes later when I went to log in again and found that I had locked myself 
out.

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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev


On 12/26/2020 11:39 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 12:21, Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:


Le 26/12/2020 à 18:14, Scott Robbins a écrit :

I'm sure all of us have done, if not this, something equally embarrassing
like posting a private reply to an email or doing dd with the wrong
destination, etc.

Then let's make a little contest out of it: what's the most stupid thing
you've
done as a system administrator ?

I'm a ten-finger-typer, and I rarely look at the keyboard. Which is a bad
thing
when your focus is on the wrong terminal. So a few years ago I happened to
type
"ssh r...@some-remote-server.com   ", vaguely
sensed in the corner of my eye that something was wrong and discovered to
my
horror that I just posted it on a densely populated IRC channel.

Your turn. :o)



2 am clean up of disk space to get email servers working again
discover a large tree of temp files from a shared service in /usr/ # remember before /home?
/bin/rm -rf . /*


I did the same just to prove for myself I am right. Used fresh test 
installation for that though:


rm -rf /

-  was testing it, as I missed the moment when the following stopped 
being true:


"the above command will start removing directory tree / 
_alphabetically_, hence when it removes /dev/[root file system device] 
further remove operations will fail. Hence on physical root device only 
stuff alphabetically before /dev will actually be removed."


Of course I was gravely wrong, thing did change (as one of experts on 
mail list pointed out for me). And the above command did obliterate 
everything.


Embarrassing part was: I had first said that loud on mail list, and only 
after I had been told I'm wrong, I actually tested it, and confirmed to 
my self I was wrong.



Another embarrassing thing was done by my younger colleague. He was 
helping someone he talked to on the phone to change that user's 
password. And as many younger (than I) people he always was typing 
lightning fast. And instead of typing


passwd [username]

he typed

passwd

[username]

Without noticing anything wrong he changed root password on the machine 
to, guess what?, "password" (without quotes). He ultimately did help 
user to change his password. And few days later bad guys just walked 
into machine as user root. I hope, he doesn't read this my post.



So mine was not the case one can state funny way: I thought I was wrong 
but I was mistaken ;-)


Valeri


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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 12:39:38PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 12:21, Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> > > I'm sure all of us have done, if not this, something equally embarrassing
> > > like posting a private reply to an email or doing dd with the wrong
> > > destination, etc.
> >
> >
> > I'm a ten-finger-typer, and I rarely look at the keyboard. Which is a bad
> > thing
> > when your focus is on the wrong terminal. So a few years ago I happened to
> > type
> > "ssh r...@some-remote-server.com   ", vaguely
> > sensed in the corner of my eye that something was wrong and discovered to
> > my
> > horror that I just posted it on a densely populated IRC channel.

That's a popular one. There's even an instance of it on bash.org, though in
that case, they fooled a new comer into thinking that everone saw his
password as . 


> >
> 2 am clean up of disk space to get email servers working again
> discover a large tree of temp files from a shared service in /usr/ name> # remember before /home?
> /bin/rm -rf . /*
> ^c
> up-arrow
> spew coffee and swearing
> go get reinstall cdrom and backup tapes

Yup that has to count as mine. We had a FreeBSD server and back in older
days, you used to do rm -rf /usr/obj before doing a buildworld. The
sequence was cd /usr/obj;chflags noschg *, rm -rf * then cd /usr/src and
start the build. (I may have that slightly wrong, but that's the idea).  

So in my case, I did that, and thought, Hrrm, that's taking a long time to
remove obj.  Then when I got my command prompt back, I did the usual cd
/usr/src and saw directory not found. Hrm, thinks I, that's odd. cd /usr

ls (shows . and ..) I'd removed the entire /usr directory, and I was fairly
new. Fortunately, it was a freshly installed server, I was new to IT and my
boss had a sense of humor about it, and even tried to make me feel better
by telling me similar stories. That was around 19 years ago, so I laugh
now, but sure wasn't laughing then. 


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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 at 12:21, Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:

> Le 26/12/2020 à 18:14, Scott Robbins a écrit :
> > I'm sure all of us have done, if not this, something equally embarrassing
> > like posting a private reply to an email or doing dd with the wrong
> > destination, etc.
>
> Then let's make a little contest out of it: what's the most stupid thing
> you've
> done as a system administrator ?
>
> I'm a ten-finger-typer, and I rarely look at the keyboard. Which is a bad
> thing
> when your focus is on the wrong terminal. So a few years ago I happened to
> type
> "ssh r...@some-remote-server.com   ", vaguely
> sensed in the corner of my eye that something was wrong and discovered to
> my
> horror that I just posted it on a densely populated IRC channel.
>
> Your turn. :o)
>
>
2 am clean up of disk space to get email servers working again
discover a large tree of temp files from a shared service in /usr/ # remember before /home?
/bin/rm -rf . /*
^c
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spew coffee and swearing
go get reinstall cdrom and backup tapes

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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 26/12/2020 à 18:14, Scott Robbins a écrit :
> I'm sure all of us have done, if not this, something equally embarrassing
> like posting a private reply to an email or doing dd with the wrong
> destination, etc.

Then let's make a little contest out of it: what's the most stupid thing you've
done as a system administrator ?

I'm a ten-finger-typer, and I rarely look at the keyboard. Which is a bad thing
when your focus is on the wrong terminal. So a few years ago I happened to type
"ssh r...@some-remote-server.com   ", vaguely
sensed in the corner of my eye that something was wrong and discovered to my
horror that I just posted it on a densely populated IRC channel.

Your turn. :o)

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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Valeri Galtsev



On 12/26/2020 9:59 AM, Frank Cox wrote:

On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 13:36:19 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:


Am I the only one feeling a strong urge to blood-eagle out-of-office repliers
on public mailing lists ?

You can't. He's out of the office


Long ago when I was a beginner with technical mail lists I read, no I 
__studied carefully mail list etiquette. And stopping list delivery in 
case you set auto responder was one of the must do things.


My feelings then were: if I forget to do that I may be kicked off the 
list and banned from subscription, which I considered quite fair thing. 
I seem to miss the moment when we started care more about the offender 
than we do about people whom the offender made suffer (seems to be in 
all aspects of modern world).


Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 09:59:36AM -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 13:36:19 +0100
> Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> 
> > Am I the only one feeling a strong urge to blood-eagle out-of-office 
> > repliers
> > on public mailing lists ?
> 
> You can't. He's out of the office.

Of course it's annoying, but we've made far more posts about it than their
out of office post made. :)

And they'll be punished enough when they come back and see it, and think,
Oh no, made me look like a total neWb or however the young folks spell it
these days.

I'm sure all of us have done, if not this, something equally embarrassing
like posting a private reply to an email or doing dd with the wrong
destination, etc. That's why I like where I work. The owners on down are
technical people, and when one does something completely stupid, everyone
knows that stuff happens. 


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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 13:36:19 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

> Am I the only one feeling a strong urge to blood-eagle out-of-office repliers
> on public mailing lists ?

You can't. He's out of the office.

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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS

On 26/12/2020 12:36, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

Le 26/12/2020 à 13:00, m...@jump.com.hk a écrit :

Thank you for your email, our office will close from 1pm 24 Dec to 27 Dec
and will resume on 28 Dec. Wish you a merry Christmas and happy new year.


Am I the only one feeling a strong urge to blood-eagle out-of-office repliers
on public mailing lists ?

:o)



Not the only one, but there might be an alternative: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered


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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 26/12/2020 à 13:00, m...@jump.com.hk a écrit :
> Thank you for your email, our office will close from 1pm 24 Dec to 27 Dec
> and will resume on 28 Dec. Wish you a merry Christmas and happy new year.

Am I the only one feeling a strong urge to blood-eagle out-of-office repliers
on public mailing lists ?

:o)

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[CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread mak


Thank you for your email, our office will close from 1pm 24 Dec to 27 Dec and 
will resume on 28 Dec. Wish you a merry Christmas and happy new year.
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