Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[H]

On 09/22/2016 11:30 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 09/22/2016 01:12 PM, H wrote:

I did install mono and then downloaded keepass in zip format, installed it and 
tried to run it. It did not work


You probably need to install the mono-winforms package.

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Thank you. I found that the Auto-Type feature of keepassx2 is sufficient so for 
now I expect to stay with that package.

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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Gordon Messmer]

On 09/22/2016 01:12 PM, H wrote:
I did install mono and then downloaded keepass in zip format, 
installed it and tried to run it. It did not work


You probably need to install the mono-winforms package.

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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[H]

On September 22, 2016 3:33:15 PM EDT, Gordon Messmer  
wrote:
>On 09/22/2016 11:38 AM, H wrote:
>> It seems this is only for C7? 
>
>
>Why do you think that?  I checked an RHEL 6 system for the required
>mono 
>packages.
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I did install mono and then downloaded keepass in zip format, installed it and 
tried to run it. It did not work so I gave up... At the same time I had gotten 
AutoType to work on keepassx and decided to stay with that for now... I did not 
like that mono seemed to be some windows emulation which turned me off...

I know, no good reasons for the above... :-)
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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Gordon Messmer]

On 09/22/2016 11:38 AM, H wrote:
It seems this is only for C7? 



Why do you think that?  I checked an RHEL 6 system for the required mono 
packages.


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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[H]

On 09/21/2016 08:25 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:

On 09/21/2016 09:16 AM, H wrote:

I wish there was one, it makes all the difference by allowing automated login 
to websites.



Maybe you should take another look at keepass, then?  Mono is available in 
EPEL.  keepass runs reasonably well in it.  keefox should work as expected.  
The technical barriers here are .. basically non-existent.

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It seems this is only for C7?

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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Wed, September 21, 2016 5:25 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 09/21/2016 02:48 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> I use KeepassX. That one has versions for pretty much all open source
>> systems (Linux, *BSD) and for variety of others widely used systems:
>> MacOS, Android, iOS, MS Windows (just listed the ones I know of).
>
> So we're back to this...  KeepassX is compatible with the Keepass 2
> database format, but is not Keepass.  KeepassX has OS X and Windows
> ports, but the mobile clients you're referring to are also ports of
> Keepass (not KeepassX) or are Keepass-compatible applications.
>
> KeepassX doesn't support plugins at all, so none of these are available:
> http://keepass.info/plugins.html

Aha, great, thanks for setting us straight!

>
>> Thanks
>> to that I can open the same encrypted password store on pretty much all
>> devices and systems I use. However, no, I don't consider it reasonable
>> for
>> myself to use it from inside web browser
>
> Do you use KeepassX's auto-type?  That's (approximately) what KeeFox
> does, except that the plugin interface is more secure.  Note that
> KeepassX doesn't offer that feature on OS X and Windows.  Since web
> passwords are probably the most common use of a password manager,
> auto-fill of web login forms should be considered an essential function
> for such a program.  Between the two, Keepass is a much better option.
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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Gordon Messmer]

On 09/21/2016 02:48 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

I use KeepassX. That one has versions for pretty much all open source
systems (Linux, *BSD) and for variety of others widely used systems:
MacOS, Android, iOS, MS Windows (just listed the ones I know of).


So we're back to this...  KeepassX is compatible with the Keepass 2 
database format, but is not Keepass.  KeepassX has OS X and Windows 
ports, but the mobile clients you're referring to are also ports of 
Keepass (not KeepassX) or are Keepass-compatible applications.


KeepassX doesn't support plugins at all, so none of these are available:
http://keepass.info/plugins.html


Thanks
to that I can open the same encrypted password store on pretty much all
devices and systems I use. However, no, I don't consider it reasonable for
myself to use it from inside web browser


Do you use KeepassX's auto-type?  That's (approximately) what KeeFox 
does, except that the plugin interface is more secure.  Note that 
KeepassX doesn't offer that feature on OS X and Windows.  Since web 
passwords are probably the most common use of a password manager, 
auto-fill of web login forms should be considered an essential function 
for such a program.  Between the two, Keepass is a much better option.

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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Wed, September 21, 2016 5:15 pm, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2016-09-21, Valeri Galtsev  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, September 21, 2016 4:30 pm, Keith Keller wrote:
>>> On 2016-09-21, Gordon Messmer  wrote:
 On 09/21/2016 11:30 AM, H wrote:

 https://www.passwordstore.org/
>>>
>>> This looks very cool, but is there a version for Android?  One of the
>>> reasons I picked KeePass is that I could use a copy of the same
>>> password
>>> file with clients on linux, OS X, or Android.  (And if I had an iOS
>>> device KeePass works there too.)
>>
>> I use KeepassX. That one has versions for pretty much all open source
>> systems (Linux, *BSD) and for variety of others widely used systems:
>> MacOS, Android, iOS, MS Windows (just listed the ones I know of). Thanks
>> to that I can open the same encrypted password store on pretty much all
>> devices and systems I use.
>
> I was pretty dumb in asking this question: right at the top of the web
> page, it says that third parties have made Android and iOS apps.  Sorry
> about that!
>
>> However, no, I don't consider it reasonable for
>> myself to use it from inside web browser, hence I would recommend
>> reconsider this part in favor of universal tool.
>
> While pass does have a Firefox plugin, I don't think I'd use it, but I
> can imagine someone else might.  It sounds like this is different from
> keeping your key store in The Cloud (TM),

And no, I would not keep _my_ password store on any "Cloud" except maybe
on my own server running open source owncloud instance. If security is
concerned, paranoia is your friend ;-)

Valeri

> but I didn't read the plugin
> page carefully.
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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Keith Keller]

On 2016-09-21, Valeri Galtsev  wrote:
>
> On Wed, September 21, 2016 4:30 pm, Keith Keller wrote:
>> On 2016-09-21, Gordon Messmer  wrote:
>>> On 09/21/2016 11:30 AM, H wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.passwordstore.org/
>>
>> This looks very cool, but is there a version for Android?  One of the
>> reasons I picked KeePass is that I could use a copy of the same password
>> file with clients on linux, OS X, or Android.  (And if I had an iOS
>> device KeePass works there too.)
>
> I use KeepassX. That one has versions for pretty much all open source
> systems (Linux, *BSD) and for variety of others widely used systems:
> MacOS, Android, iOS, MS Windows (just listed the ones I know of). Thanks
> to that I can open the same encrypted password store on pretty much all
> devices and systems I use.

I was pretty dumb in asking this question: right at the top of the web
page, it says that third parties have made Android and iOS apps.  Sorry
about that!

> However, no, I don't consider it reasonable for
> myself to use it from inside web browser, hence I would recommend
> reconsider this part in favor of universal tool.

While pass does have a Firefox plugin, I don't think I'd use it, but I
can imagine someone else might.  It sounds like this is different from
keeping your key store in The Cloud (TM), but I didn't read the plugin
page carefully.

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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Wed, September 21, 2016 4:30 pm, Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2016-09-21, Gordon Messmer  wrote:
>> On 09/21/2016 11:30 AM, H wrote:
>>> You are right, I'll look at it again. Let me ask, what other password
>>> managers are people using, if any?
>>
>>
>> I use keepass, but I know people who like:
>>
>> https://www.passwordstore.org/
>
> This looks very cool, but is there a version for Android?  One of the
> reasons I picked KeePass is that I could use a copy of the same password
> file with clients on linux, OS X, or Android.  (And if I had an iOS
> device KeePass works there too.)

I use KeepassX. That one has versions for pretty much all open source
systems (Linux, *BSD) and for variety of others widely used systems:
MacOS, Android, iOS, MS Windows (just listed the ones I know of). Thanks
to that I can open the same encrypted password store on pretty much all
devices and systems I use. However, no, I don't consider it reasonable for
myself to use it from inside web browser, hence I would recommend
reconsider this part in favor of universal tool.

Just my $0.02

Valeri

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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Keith Keller]

On 2016-09-21, Gordon Messmer  wrote:
> On 09/21/2016 11:30 AM, H wrote:
>> You are right, I'll look at it again. Let me ask, what other password 
>> managers are people using, if any?
>
>
> I use keepass, but I know people who like:
>
> https://www.passwordstore.org/

This looks very cool, but is there a version for Android?  One of the
reasons I picked KeePass is that I could use a copy of the same password
file with clients on linux, OS X, or Android.  (And if I had an iOS
device KeePass works there too.)

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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Gordon Messmer]

On 09/21/2016 11:30 AM, H wrote:

You are right, I'll look at it again. Let me ask, what other password managers 
are people using, if any?



I use keepass, but I know people who like:

https://www.passwordstore.org/

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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Charles Whitby]

sticky notes

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Frank Cox 
wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:30:43 -0400
> H wrote:
>
> > what other password managers are people using, if any?
>
> I personally use revelation.
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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:30:43 -0400
H wrote:

> what other password managers are people using, if any?

I personally use revelation.

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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[H]

On September 21, 2016 2:25:37 PM EDT, Gordon Messmer  
wrote:
>On 09/21/2016 09:16 AM, H wrote:
>> I wish there was one, it makes all the difference by allowing
>automated login to websites.
>
>
>Maybe you should take another look at keepass, then?  Mono is available
>
>in EPEL.  keepass runs reasonably well in it.  keefox should work as 
>expected.  The technical barriers here are .. basically non-existent.
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You are right, I'll look at it again. Let me ask, what other password managers 
are people using, if any?
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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Gordon Messmer]

On 09/21/2016 09:16 AM, H wrote:

I wish there was one, it makes all the difference by allowing automated login 
to websites.



Maybe you should take another look at keepass, then?  Mono is available 
in EPEL.  keepass runs reasonably well in it.  keefox should work as 
expected.  The technical barriers here are .. basically non-existent.


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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[H]

On September 21, 2016 12:10:18 PM EDT, Valeri Galtsev 
 wrote:
>
>On Wed, September 21, 2016 10:57 am, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>> On 09/21/2016 06:50 AM, H wrote:
>>> Thank you, downloaded and installed keepassx2 from EPEL since
>keepassx
>>> seemed to suffer from a bug per the home page.
>>
>> Which URL describes the bug?
>>
>>>   The database opened fine but unfortunately the KeeFox extension
>for
>>> Firefox does not seem to be compatible...
>>
>>
>> KeeFox, AFAIK, is an extension that interfaces with Keepass, the .Net
>> application.  KeepassX is a different product.  I don't see a browser
>> plugin that interfaces with that one.
>
>And I for one wouldn't trust any browser (huge sophisticated chunk of
>code, capable executing someone's else code - like java scripts etc) to
>go
>inside my encrypted password database. If you want security, paranoia
>is
>your friend. If you don't want security, why use KeepassX in the first
>place?
>
>Valeri
>
>
>
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Well, I am not sure how KeeFox and Keepass work together. At some time the 
browser needs the userid and password to login.
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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[H]

On September 21, 2016 11:57:14 AM EDT, Gordon Messmer 
 wrote:
>On 09/21/2016 06:50 AM, H wrote:
>> Thank you, downloaded and installed keepassx2 from EPEL since
>keepassx seemed to suffer from a bug per the home page.
>
>Which URL describes the bug?
>
>>   The database opened fine but unfortunately the KeeFox extension for
>Firefox does not seem to be compatible...
>
>
>KeeFox, AFAIK, is an extension that interfaces with Keepass, the .Net 
>application.  KeepassX is a different product.  I don't see a browser 
>plugin that interfaces with that one.
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I wish there was one, it makes all the difference by allowing automated login 
to websites. I have not gotten Auto-Type to work...
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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Wed, September 21, 2016 10:57 am, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 09/21/2016 06:50 AM, H wrote:
>> Thank you, downloaded and installed keepassx2 from EPEL since keepassx
>> seemed to suffer from a bug per the home page.
>
> Which URL describes the bug?
>
>>   The database opened fine but unfortunately the KeeFox extension for
>> Firefox does not seem to be compatible...
>
>
> KeeFox, AFAIK, is an extension that interfaces with Keepass, the .Net
> application.  KeepassX is a different product.  I don't see a browser
> plugin that interfaces with that one.

And I for one wouldn't trust any browser (huge sophisticated chunk of
code, capable executing someone's else code - like java scripts etc) to go
inside my encrypted password database. If you want security, paranoia is
your friend. If you don't want security, why use KeepassX in the first
place?

Valeri



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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Gordon Messmer]

On 09/21/2016 06:50 AM, H wrote:

Thank you, downloaded and installed keepassx2 from EPEL since keepassx seemed 
to suffer from a bug per the home page.


Which URL describes the bug?


  The database opened fine but unfortunately the KeeFox extension for Firefox 
does not seem to be compatible...



KeeFox, AFAIK, is an extension that interfaces with Keepass, the .Net 
application.  KeepassX is a different product.  I don't see a browser 
plugin that interfaces with that one.


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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[H]

On September 20, 2016 3:43:17 PM EDT, H  wrote:
>Is anyone running keepass on C6? I have a rather large password
>database under Windows that I want also to use on my Centos systems. It
>seems that keepass is not available, it relies on mono and there may be
>bugs.
>
>Googling also seems to suggest that I should download the source code
>and compile to install. The nux repository seems to have a version for
>C7, but not for C6.
>
>Many suppositions and few facts - perhaps someone knows better?
>
>Thanks!
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Thank you, downloaded and installed keepassx2 from EPEL since keepassx seemed 
to suffer from a bug per the home page. The database opened fine but 
unfortunately the KeeFox extension for Firefox does not seem to be compatible...
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Re: [CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[Jos Vos]

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 09:43:17PM +0200, H wrote:

> Is anyone running keepass on C6? I have a rather large password database 
> under Windows that I want also to use on my Centos systems. It seems that 
> keepass is not available, it relies on mono and there may be bugs.
> 
> Googling also seems to suggest that I should download the source code and 
> compile to install. The nux repository seems to have a version for C7, but 
> not for C6.
> 
> Many suppositions and few facts - perhaps someone knows better?

I do not use it myself (yet), but KeepPassX (https://www.keepassx.org/)
should be compatible with KeePass and is available in EPEL for C6 and C7.
Search for the keepassx and keepassx2 packages.  I once tested it to
exchange DB's with KeePassDroid (Android) and that worked fine.

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[CentOS] Using keepass on Centos 6

[H]

Is anyone running keepass on C6? I have a rather large password database under 
Windows that I want also to use on my Centos systems. It seems that keepass is 
not available, it relies on mono and there may be bugs.

Googling also seems to suggest that I should download the source code and 
compile to install. The nux repository seems to have a version for C7, but not 
for C6.

Many suppositions and few facts - perhaps someone knows better?

Thanks!

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