Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Why should I use rpm if I have yum? :) It is easier and much more convinient to use. Also if the package is signed, why not to verify it's signature first before installation? That's the purpose of the signature to be verified ;) If you always skip signature verification, why to sign package at all? Anyway, I don't see any object to argue about. I just wrote a script, that automates the method described in a wiki. Nothing more. I do not force anyone to use it. If that wiki article has a right to exist, so does the script. If you think that wiki article describes a bad way to follow, let's remove both the wiki and the script. If one thinks, the script points a bad way to move, so does that wiki article I suppose. If you ask me, I would include RPMForge repo rpm to some official CentOS repo. So that I would be able to install RPMForge via single yum install rpmforge command that will do everything for me including priorities managing. RPMForge is the most widely used RPMForge repository. And it is a pity we cannot add it to yum repository list in a really convinient way. Manually editing files to setup this repo cannot be considered convinient in my point of view. That's why I wanted some automation. Time to time I need to setup servers with CentOS. And I am tired of manually installing RPMForge repository into system. Priorities setup is important for people, that want really stable system. You can skip them, but I personally will never do that and don't recommend doing that to someone else. Even if someone here in this thread said, that their use is completely optional... Best regards, Vladislav 2009/6/12 Dag Wieers d...@centos.org: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Vladislav Rastrusny wrote: Can you install rpmforge-release without using --disable-gpg-check yum option? rpmforge-release package is also signed using Dag's key, isn't it? To verify rpmforge-release you need to import Dag's key first. Am I right? Why would you use yum to install the package if you can do it with a single rpm command ? -- -- dag wieers, ...@centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Vladislav Rastrusny wrote: Why should I use rpm if I have yum? :) It is easier and much more convinient to use. Also if the package is signed, why not to verify it's signature first before installation? That's the purpose of the signature to be verified ;) If you always skip signature verification, why to sign package at all? If you ask me, I would include RPMForge repo rpm to some official CentOS repo. So that I would be able to install RPMForge via single yum install rpmforge command that will do everything for me including priorities managing. Dag Wieers wrote: Why would you use yum to install the package if you can do it with a single rpm command ? I can see validity in both sides, on the one hand it would be very nice to use yum to install a *new* repository and start using it. On the other hand how many 3rd party repo rpm's should they add to the main CentOS repository? Just rpmforge? Maybe elrepo? or atrpms? Who decides? Also, there is the fact that if they are included in the core repos then they appear to be supported by or endorsed by CentOS when clearly that is not the case... WARNING: These repositories are not provided nor supported by CentOS. Seems to me there is a reason the 3rd party repo info is on a wiki page and not in the core repos, because this ground has been covered and the decision appears to have been made. Maybe I am wrong but I can only assume this as it is covered on the wiki page. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Hi, On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:01, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: I have published an article under my homepage here: http://wiki.centos.org/VladislavRastrusny/AutoRPMForgeRepo Sorry, but how is that supposed to be easier than this? http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 Cheers, Filipe ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Am Donnerstag, den 11.06.2009, 16:01 +0200 schrieb Vladislav Rastrusny: Hello. With the help of the community I finished polishing the translation of my PHP script to Bash version http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flattopic_id=20222forum=38 It has now autodetection of architecture and CentOS version and handles errors. I have published an article under my homepage here: http://wiki.centos.org/VladislavRastrusny/AutoRPMForgeRepo Since no automated RPM to install RPMForge repo was added to native CentOS repositories, I think my article can be included to Tips Tricks section. And, probably, linked from here: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge. Manually performing all changes from here is a hard job ;) Please tell me, what should I improve in this article if anything? Best regards, Vladislav FractalizeR Rastrusny ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs It would be much nicer if you could replace the command ; if [ $? != 0 ] then echo ...; exit 1; with a sub. So you could do command || _myexit Comment You can als run all sed statements in a single sed call. sed -i -e 'replace1' -e 'replace2' -e 'replace3' file If you want to massdeploy repositories you should also consider using configuration management eg. cfengine, puppet, spacewalk. financial.com AG Munich head office/Hauptsitz München: Maria-Probst-Str. 19 | 80939 München | Germany Frankfurt branch office/Niederlassung Frankfurt: Messeturm | Friedrich-Ebert-Anlage 49 | 60327 Frankfurt | Germany Management board/Vorstand: Dr. Steffen Boehnert (CEO/Vorsitzender) | Dr. Alexis Eisenhofer | Dr. Yann Samson | Matthias Wiederwach Supervisory board/Aufsichtsrat: Dr. Dr. Ernst zur Linden (chairman/Vorsitzender) Register court/Handelsregister: Munich – HRB 128 972 | Sales tax ID number/St.Nr.: DE205 370 553 ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Alan, I answered to that post. You see, each new sed command will overwrite backup file. So, it is not possible to use your solution. I am sorry. 2009/6/11 Alan Bartlett ajb.st...@googlemail.com: On 11/06/2009, Vladislav Rastrusny fractali...@yandex.ru wrote: With the help of the community I finished polishing the translation of my PHP script to Bash version http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flattopic_id=20222forum=38 Please tell me, what should I improve in this article if anything? My latest post to your forum thread flags an adjustment to the sed command lines . . . :-) Alan. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Filipe Brandenburger wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:01, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: I have published an article under my homepage here: http://wiki.centos.org/VladislavRastrusny/AutoRPMForgeRepo Sorry, but how is that supposed to be easier than this? http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 And exactly that solution already is in the wiki twice. i really see no need for duplicating that, especially as the rpm way is cleaner. This is not the same as with the webmin repository, which has not reposetup rpm. And priorities is something everyone should decide for himself. IMNSHO. Ralph pgpQHBHgGbg5r.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Sorry, but how is that supposed to be easier than this? http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 Yes, of course. You need to setup priorities plugin to prevent damaging CentOS packages, import signing key etc. It would be much nicer if you could replace the command ; if [ $? != 0 ] then echo ...; exit 1; with a sub. So you could do command || _myexit Comment You can als run all sed statements in a single sed call. sed -i -e 'replace1' -e 'replace2' -e 'replace3' file Implemented all that, thank you very much. I am not good at bash scripting, unfortunately :( 2009/6/11 Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com: Hi, On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:01, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: I have published an article under my homepage here: http://wiki.centos.org/VladislavRastrusny/AutoRPMForgeRepo Sorry, but how is that supposed to be easier than this? http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 Cheers, Filipe ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
How can it do that? You need to install GPG key to verify the rpmforge-release package itself ;) My script just follows the guidelines in wiki here: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge It just automates everything, that is listed there. 2009/6/11 Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: Sorry, but how is that supposed to be easier than this? http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 Yes, of course. You need to setup priorities plugin to prevent damaging CentOS packages, import signing key etc. I understand the rpmforge-release package automatically installs GPG keys. Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: 2009/6/11 Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: Sorry, but how is that supposed to be easier than this? http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 Yes, of course. You need to setup priorities plugin to prevent damaging CentOS packages, import signing key etc. I understand the rpmforge-release package automatically installs GPG keys. How can it do that? You need to install GPG key to verify the rpmforge-release package itself ;) My script just follows the guidelines in wiki here: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge It just automates everything, that is listed there. Dag's own words (from yesterday's conversation with him): dag if you install the rpmforge-release it installs my key, the one from fabian and the one from dries Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:26:54AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: Dag's own words (from yesterday's conversation with him): dag if you install the rpmforge-release it installs my key, the one from fabian and the one from dries Akemi In that case the wiki needs updating, yes? (Don't look at me Akemi-sama, I'm buried) :) -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Anya: For a thousand years I wielded the powers of the Wish. I brought ruin to the heads of unfaithful men. I brought forth destruction and chaos for the pleasure of the lower beings. I was feared and worshipped across the mortal globe. And now I'm stuck at Sunnydale High. Mortal. Child. And I'm flunking Math. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Scott Robbinsscot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:26:54AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: Dag's own words (from yesterday's conversation with him): dag if you install the rpmforge-release it installs my key, the one from fabian and the one from dries Akemi In that case the wiki needs updating, yes? (Don't look at me Akemi-sama, I'm buried) :) Scott Robbins Absolutely, YES. Go ahead. It is stated here as well: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 It's very easy. Just install the latest rpmforge-release package for your distribution and architecture. This will automatically install the configuration and GPG keys that are for safely installing RPMforge packages. Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:09:52AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Scott Robbinsscot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:26:54AM -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: Dag's own words (from yesterday's conversation with him): dag if you install the rpmforge-release it installs my key, the one from fabian and the one from dries Akemi In that case the wiki needs updating, yes? (Don't look at me Akemi-sama, I'm buried) :) Scott Robbins Absolutely, YES. Go ahead. Errm, to repeat. (Don't look at me Akemi-sama, I'm buried) :) If no one does it by the weekend, I'll try to do it then. Dag, if you're reading this, you could add it. hint hint Very lazily yours -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Forrest: This is the burden we bear, brother. We have a gig that would inevitably cause any girl living to think we are cool upon cool. Yet, we must Clark Kent our way through the dating scene, never to use our unfair advantage. Thank God we're pretty. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Hi, On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:09, Akemi Yagiamy...@gmail.com wrote: It is stated here as well: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 Since the rpmforge-release package was brought up... Is there a reason why there isn't only one .noarch. package that works for all versions of RHEL? After all, those information are available in yum repo config as $releasever and $releasever, as long as the rpmforge.repo file uses those it should work as expected on any of the RHEL versions and archs... In case that is possible, this is getting off-topic to CentOS, should we move it to rpmforge-users instead? Cheers, Filipe ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: 2009/6/11 Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: Sorry, but how is that supposed to be easier than this? http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 Yes, of course. You need to setup priorities plugin to prevent damaging CentOS packages, import signing key etc. I understand the rpmforge-release package automatically installs GPG keys. How can it do that? You need to install GPG key to verify the rpmforge-release package itself ;) My script just follows the guidelines in wiki here: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge It just automates everything, that is listed there. Dag's own words (from yesterday's conversation with him): dag if you install the rpmforge-release it installs my key, the one from fabian and the one from dries Akemi Hmm, which is not exact : my key appearead only in rpmforge-release-0.4.0-1 (still tagged as Test and so not available on the rpmforge mirror) Something to be fixed ! ;-) -- -- Fabian Arrotin idea=`grep -i clue /dev/brain` test -z $idea echo sorry, init 6 in progress || sh ./answer.sh ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated RPMForge Repository Installation Script for Tips Tricks section
Can you install rpmforge-release without using --disable-gpg-check yum option? rpmforge-release package is also signed using Dag's key, isn't it? To verify rpmforge-release you need to import Dag's key first. Am I right? 2009/6/11 Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: 2009/6/11 Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Vladislav Rastrusnyfractali...@yandex.ru wrote: Sorry, but how is that supposed to be easier than this? http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/FAQ.php#B2 Yes, of course. You need to setup priorities plugin to prevent damaging CentOS packages, import signing key etc. I understand the rpmforge-release package automatically installs GPG keys. How can it do that? You need to install GPG key to verify the rpmforge-release package itself ;) My script just follows the guidelines in wiki here: http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge It just automates everything, that is listed there. Dag's own words (from yesterday's conversation with him): dag if you install the rpmforge-release it installs my key, the one from fabian and the one from dries Akemi ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
