Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-14 Thread David Turner
Is there going to be an announcement for 10.2.9 either? I haven't seen
anything other than users noticing the packages.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017, 10:30 AM Martin Palma  wrote:

> Thank you for the clarification and yes we saw that v10.2.9 was just
> released. :-)
>
> Best,
> Martin
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Patrick Donnelly 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Martin Palma  wrote:
> >> So only the ceph-mds is affected? Let's say if we have mons and osds
> >> on 10.2.8 and the MDS on 10.2.6 or 10.2.7 we would be "safe"?
> >
> > Yes, only the MDS was affected.
> >
> > As Udo mentioned, v10.2.9 is out so feel free to upgrade to that instead.
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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-14 Thread Martin Palma
Thank you for the clarification and yes we saw that v10.2.9 was just
released. :-)

Best,
Martin

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Patrick Donnelly  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Martin Palma  wrote:
>> So only the ceph-mds is affected? Let's say if we have mons and osds
>> on 10.2.8 and the MDS on 10.2.6 or 10.2.7 we would be "safe"?
>
> Yes, only the MDS was affected.
>
> As Udo mentioned, v10.2.9 is out so feel free to upgrade to that instead.
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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-14 Thread Patrick Donnelly
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Martin Palma  wrote:
> So only the ceph-mds is affected? Let's say if we have mons and osds
> on 10.2.8 and the MDS on 10.2.6 or 10.2.7 we would be "safe"?

Yes, only the MDS was affected.

As Udo mentioned, v10.2.9 is out so feel free to upgrade to that instead.

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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-14 Thread ulembke

Hi,
10.2.9 is there:
apt list --upgradable
Listing... Done
ceph/stable 10.2.9-1~bpo80+1 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.2.8-1~bpo80+1]

Change-File??

Udo

Am 2017-07-14 09:26, schrieb Martin Palma:

So only the ceph-mds is affected? Let's say if we have mons and osds
on 10.2.8 and the MDS on 10.2.6 or 10.2.7 we would be "safe"?

I'm asking since we need to add new storage nodes to our production 
cluster.


Best,
Martin

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Patrick Donnelly 
 wrote:
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Dan van der Ster 
 wrote:

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Abhishek L
 wrote:
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Xiaoxi Chen 
 wrote:
+However, it also introduced a regression that could cause MDS 
damage.
+Therefore, we do *not* recommend that Jewel users upgrade to this 
version -
+instead, we recommend upgrading directly to v10.2.9 in which the 
regression is

+fixed.

It looks like this version is NOT production ready. Curious why we
want a not-recwaended version  to be released?


We found a regression in MDS right after packages were built, and 
the release
was about to be announced. This is why we didn't announce the 
release.

We're  currently running tests after the fix for MDS was merged.

So when we do announce the release we'll announce 10.2.9 so that 
users

can upgrade from 10.2.7->10.2.9


Suppose some users already upgraded their CephFS to 10.2.8 -- what is
the immediate recommended course of action? Downgrade or wait for the
10.2.9 ?


I'm not aware of or see any changes that would make downgrading back
to 10.2.7 a problem but the safest thing to do would be to replace the
v10.2.8 ceph-mds binaries with the v10.2.7 binary. If that's not
practical, I would recommend a cluster-wide downgrade to 10.2.7.

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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-14 Thread Martin Palma
So only the ceph-mds is affected? Let's say if we have mons and osds
on 10.2.8 and the MDS on 10.2.6 or 10.2.7 we would be "safe"?

I'm asking since we need to add new storage nodes to our production cluster.

Best,
Martin

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Patrick Donnelly  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Dan van der Ster  
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Abhishek L
>>  wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Xiaoxi Chen  wrote:
 +However, it also introduced a regression that could cause MDS damage.
 +Therefore, we do *not* recommend that Jewel users upgrade to this version 
 -
 +instead, we recommend upgrading directly to v10.2.9 in which the 
 regression is
 +fixed.

 It looks like this version is NOT production ready. Curious why we
 want a not-recwaended version  to be released?
>>>
>>> We found a regression in MDS right after packages were built, and the 
>>> release
>>> was about to be announced. This is why we didn't announce the release.
>>> We're  currently running tests after the fix for MDS was merged.
>>>
>>> So when we do announce the release we'll announce 10.2.9 so that users
>>> can upgrade from 10.2.7->10.2.9
>>
>> Suppose some users already upgraded their CephFS to 10.2.8 -- what is
>> the immediate recommended course of action? Downgrade or wait for the
>> 10.2.9 ?
>
> I'm not aware of or see any changes that would make downgrading back
> to 10.2.7 a problem but the safest thing to do would be to replace the
> v10.2.8 ceph-mds binaries with the v10.2.7 binary. If that's not
> practical, I would recommend a cluster-wide downgrade to 10.2.7.
>
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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-12 Thread Patrick Donnelly
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Dan van der Ster  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Abhishek L
>  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Xiaoxi Chen  wrote:
>>> +However, it also introduced a regression that could cause MDS damage.
>>> +Therefore, we do *not* recommend that Jewel users upgrade to this version -
>>> +instead, we recommend upgrading directly to v10.2.9 in which the 
>>> regression is
>>> +fixed.
>>>
>>> It looks like this version is NOT production ready. Curious why we
>>> want a not-recwaended version  to be released?
>>
>> We found a regression in MDS right after packages were built, and the release
>> was about to be announced. This is why we didn't announce the release.
>> We're  currently running tests after the fix for MDS was merged.
>>
>> So when we do announce the release we'll announce 10.2.9 so that users
>> can upgrade from 10.2.7->10.2.9
>
> Suppose some users already upgraded their CephFS to 10.2.8 -- what is
> the immediate recommended course of action? Downgrade or wait for the
> 10.2.9 ?

I'm not aware of or see any changes that would make downgrading back
to 10.2.7 a problem but the safest thing to do would be to replace the
v10.2.8 ceph-mds binaries with the v10.2.7 binary. If that's not
practical, I would recommend a cluster-wide downgrade to 10.2.7.

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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-12 Thread Dan van der Ster
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Abhishek L
 wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Xiaoxi Chen  wrote:
>> +However, it also introduced a regression that could cause MDS damage.
>> +Therefore, we do *not* recommend that Jewel users upgrade to this version -
>> +instead, we recommend upgrading directly to v10.2.9 in which the regression 
>> is
>> +fixed.
>>
>> It looks like this version is NOT production ready. Curious why we
>> want a not-recwaended version  to be released?
>
> We found a regression in MDS right after packages were built, and the release
> was about to be announced. This is why we didn't announce the release.
> We're  currently running tests after the fix for MDS was merged.
>
> So when we do announce the release we'll announce 10.2.9 so that users
> can upgrade from 10.2.7->10.2.9

Suppose some users already upgraded their CephFS to 10.2.8 -- what is
the immediate recommended course of action? Downgrade or wait for the
10.2.9 ?

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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-12 Thread Xiaoxi Chen
Understood, thanks Abhishek.

 So 10.2.9 will not be another release cycle but just 10.2.8+ mds fix,
and expect to be out soon, right?


2017-07-12 23:51 GMT+08:00 Abhishek L :
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Xiaoxi Chen  wrote:
>> +However, it also introduced a regression that could cause MDS damage.
>> +Therefore, we do *not* recommend that Jewel users upgrade to this version -
>> +instead, we recommend upgrading directly to v10.2.9 in which the regression 
>> is
>> +fixed.
>>
>> It looks like this version is NOT production ready. Curious why we
>> want a not-recwaended version  to be released?
>
> We found a regression in MDS right after packages were built, and the release
> was about to be announced. This is why we didn't announce the release.
> We're  currently running tests after the fix for MDS was merged.
>
> So when we do announce the release we'll announce 10.2.9 so that users
> can upgrade from 10.2.7->10.2.9
>
> Best,
> Abhishek
>
>> 2017-07-12 22:44 GMT+08:00 David Turner :
>>> The lack of communication on this makes me tentative to upgrade to it.  Are
>>> the packages available to Ubuntu/Debian systems production ready and
>>> intended for upgrades?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:33 PM Brad Hubbard  wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:58 AM, David Turner 
 wrote:
 > I haven't seen any release notes for 10.2.8 yet.  Is there a document
 > somewhere stating what's in the release?

 https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/16274 for now although it should
 make it into the master doc tree soon.

 >
 > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:41 AM Henrik Korkuc  wrote:
 >>
 >> On 17-07-10 08:29, Christian Balzer wrote:
 >> > Hello,
 >> >
 >> > so this morning I was greeted with the availability of 10.2.8 for
 >> > both
 >> > Jessie and Stretch (much appreciated), but w/o any announcement here
 >> > or
 >> > updated release notes on the website, etc.
 >> >
 >> > Any reason other "Friday" (US time) for this?
 >> >
 >> > Christian
 >>
 >> My guess is that they didn't have time to announce it yet. Maybe pkgs
 >> were not ready yet on friday?
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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-12 Thread Abhishek L
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Xiaoxi Chen  wrote:
> +However, it also introduced a regression that could cause MDS damage.
> +Therefore, we do *not* recommend that Jewel users upgrade to this version -
> +instead, we recommend upgrading directly to v10.2.9 in which the regression 
> is
> +fixed.
>
> It looks like this version is NOT production ready. Curious why we
> want a not-recwaended version  to be released?

We found a regression in MDS right after packages were built, and the release
was about to be announced. This is why we didn't announce the release.
We're  currently running tests after the fix for MDS was merged.

So when we do announce the release we'll announce 10.2.9 so that users
can upgrade from 10.2.7->10.2.9

Best,
Abhishek

> 2017-07-12 22:44 GMT+08:00 David Turner :
>> The lack of communication on this makes me tentative to upgrade to it.  Are
>> the packages available to Ubuntu/Debian systems production ready and
>> intended for upgrades?
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:33 PM Brad Hubbard  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:58 AM, David Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I haven't seen any release notes for 10.2.8 yet.  Is there a document
>>> > somewhere stating what's in the release?
>>>
>>> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/16274 for now although it should
>>> make it into the master doc tree soon.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:41 AM Henrik Korkuc  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On 17-07-10 08:29, Christian Balzer wrote:
>>> >> > Hello,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > so this morning I was greeted with the availability of 10.2.8 for
>>> >> > both
>>> >> > Jessie and Stretch (much appreciated), but w/o any announcement here
>>> >> > or
>>> >> > updated release notes on the website, etc.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Any reason other "Friday" (US time) for this?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Christian
>>> >>
>>> >> My guess is that they didn't have time to announce it yet. Maybe pkgs
>>> >> were not ready yet on friday?
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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-12 Thread Xiaoxi Chen
+However, it also introduced a regression that could cause MDS damage.
+Therefore, we do *not* recommend that Jewel users upgrade to this version -
+instead, we recommend upgrading directly to v10.2.9 in which the regression is
+fixed.

It looks like this version is NOT production ready. Curious why we
want a not-recommended version  to be released?

2017-07-12 22:44 GMT+08:00 David Turner :
> The lack of communication on this makes me tentative to upgrade to it.  Are
> the packages available to Ubuntu/Debian systems production ready and
> intended for upgrades?
>
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:33 PM Brad Hubbard  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:58 AM, David Turner 
>> wrote:
>> > I haven't seen any release notes for 10.2.8 yet.  Is there a document
>> > somewhere stating what's in the release?
>>
>> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/16274 for now although it should
>> make it into the master doc tree soon.
>>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:41 AM Henrik Korkuc  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 17-07-10 08:29, Christian Balzer wrote:
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > so this morning I was greeted with the availability of 10.2.8 for
>> >> > both
>> >> > Jessie and Stretch (much appreciated), but w/o any announcement here
>> >> > or
>> >> > updated release notes on the website, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any reason other "Friday" (US time) for this?
>> >> >
>> >> > Christian
>> >>
>> >> My guess is that they didn't have time to announce it yet. Maybe pkgs
>> >> were not ready yet on friday?
>> >>
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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-12 Thread David Turner
The lack of communication on this makes me tentative to upgrade to it.  Are
the packages available to Ubuntu/Debian systems production ready and
intended for upgrades?

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:33 PM Brad Hubbard  wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:58 AM, David Turner 
> wrote:
> > I haven't seen any release notes for 10.2.8 yet.  Is there a document
> > somewhere stating what's in the release?
>
> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/16274 for now although it should
> make it into the master doc tree soon.
>
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:41 AM Henrik Korkuc  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 17-07-10 08:29, Christian Balzer wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > so this morning I was greeted with the availability of 10.2.8 for both
> >> > Jessie and Stretch (much appreciated), but w/o any announcement here
> or
> >> > updated release notes on the website, etc.
> >> >
> >> > Any reason other "Friday" (US time) for this?
> >> >
> >> > Christian
> >>
> >> My guess is that they didn't have time to announce it yet. Maybe pkgs
> >> were not ready yet on friday?
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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-11 Thread Brad Hubbard
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:58 AM, David Turner  wrote:
> I haven't seen any release notes for 10.2.8 yet.  Is there a document
> somewhere stating what's in the release?

https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/16274 for now although it should
make it into the master doc tree soon.

>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:41 AM Henrik Korkuc  wrote:
>>
>> On 17-07-10 08:29, Christian Balzer wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > so this morning I was greeted with the availability of 10.2.8 for both
>> > Jessie and Stretch (much appreciated), but w/o any announcement here or
>> > updated release notes on the website, etc.
>> >
>> > Any reason other "Friday" (US time) for this?
>> >
>> > Christian
>>
>> My guess is that they didn't have time to announce it yet. Maybe pkgs
>> were not ready yet on friday?
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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-11 Thread David Turner
I haven't seen any release notes for 10.2.8 yet.  Is there a document
somewhere stating what's in the release?

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:41 AM Henrik Korkuc  wrote:

> On 17-07-10 08:29, Christian Balzer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > so this morning I was greeted with the availability of 10.2.8 for both
> > Jessie and Stretch (much appreciated), but w/o any announcement here or
> > updated release notes on the website, etc.
> >
> > Any reason other "Friday" (US time) for this?
> >
> > Christian
>
> My guess is that they didn't have time to announce it yet. Maybe pkgs
> were not ready yet on friday?
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Re: [ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-09 Thread Henrik Korkuc

On 17-07-10 08:29, Christian Balzer wrote:

Hello,

so this morning I was greeted with the availability of 10.2.8 for both
Jessie and Stretch (much appreciated), but w/o any announcement here or
updated release notes on the website, etc.

Any reason other "Friday" (US time) for this?

Christian


My guess is that they didn't have time to announce it yet. Maybe pkgs 
were not ready yet on friday?


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[ceph-users] Stealth Jewel release?

2017-07-09 Thread Christian Balzer

Hello,

so this morning I was greeted with the availability of 10.2.8 for both
Jessie and Stretch (much appreciated), but w/o any announcement here or
updated release notes on the website, etc.

Any reason other "Friday" (US time) for this?

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