[KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box
Though off topic, I'm posting because several members here have worked with IMail server product. The recent version has a feature where, if you are reading a message and click Header, it will generate a box containing the full email header info. What caught my eye is that although this box sits on top of the existing page content (edges of box bisect characters in text below, so it's not inserting an HTML table), it is still within the browser window, and will scroll with the page contents. I tried to look at their JavaScript but View source was grayed out. How did they do that? Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas City) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. __ The KCFusion.org list and website is hosted by Humankind Systems, Inc. List Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-list@kcfusion.org Questions, Comments or Glowing Praise.. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box
Not sure how they turned that off, but what I would do next is simply watch the page load over the wire. Ethereal is an open-source packet sniffer that works quite nicely for this purpose, and I recently added a section to Daryl's TCP/IP Primer on its use: http://www.ipprimer.com/packets.cfm --Daryl - Original Message - From: Keith Purtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: KCFusion (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:17 AM Subject: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box Though off topic, I'm posting because several members here have worked with IMail server product. The recent version has a feature where, if you are reading a message and click Header, it will generate a box containing the full email header info. What caught my eye is that although this box sits on top of the existing page content (edges of box bisect characters in text below, so it's not inserting an HTML table), it is still within the browser window, and will scroll with the page contents. I tried to look at their JavaScript but View source was grayed out. How did they do that? Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas City) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. __ The KCFusion.org list and website is hosted by Humankind Systems, Inc. List Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-list@kcfusion.org Questions, Comments or Glowing Praise.. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The KCFusion.org list and website is hosted by Humankind Systems, Inc. List Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-list@kcfusion.org Questions, Comments or Glowing Praise.. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box
Without seeing the code, I would guess they are using DHTML layers and/or DIV tags. See article at http://www.webresource.net/html/procenter/articles/layers/ -Chuck -Original Message- From: Keith Purtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:18 AM To: KCFusion (E-mail) Subject: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box Though off topic, I'm posting because several members here have worked with IMail server product. The recent version has a feature where, if you are reading a message and click Header, it will generate a box containing the full email header info. What caught my eye is that although this box sits on top of the existing page content (edges of box bisect characters in text below, so it's not inserting an HTML table), it is still within the browser window, and will scroll with the page contents. I tried to look at their JavaScript but View source was grayed out. How did they do that? Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas City) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. __ The KCFusion.org list and website is hosted by Humankind Systems, Inc. List Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-list@kcfusion.org Questions, Comments or Glowing Praise.. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] * __ The KCFusion.org list and website is hosted by Humankind Systems, Inc. List Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-list@kcfusion.org Questions, Comments or Glowing Praise.. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box
It's just simple DHTML. The View Source is grayed-out due to something weird in your browser; there's no way to lock that out. We do the same trick on the headers at http://killerwebmail.com/ (a better IMail webmail interface - login in with demo and blue to check it out) if you want to try to view the source there. Speaking of viewing the source, here's a cool little trick I figured out the other day. Tired of not being able to see the actual HTML output of a JS document.write() function, I created a bookmarkable JS source viewer, that also has a side benefit of cleaning up the HTML's capitalization, missing tags, etc.: http://www.humankindsystems.com/sourcelink.htm Using that tool from a bookmark, you'll be able to see the source of any page. Also have a handy CookieViewer bookmark there, to check your cookies on any site. Very helpful when debugging cookie problems, or just to see all the info various sites are collecting on you. -Ron Ron Hornbaker President/CTO . . . . . . . . . . . . http://humankindsystems.com . . . . . . . . . . . . w e c o d e. w e c a r e. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Purtell Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:18 AM To: KCFusion (E-mail) Subject: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box Though off topic, I'm posting because several members here have worked with IMail server product. The recent version has a feature where, if you are reading a message and click Header, it will generate a box containing the full email header info. What caught my eye is that although this box sits on top of the existing page content (edges of box bisect characters in text below, so it's not inserting an HTML table), it is still within the browser window, and will scroll with the page contents. I tried to look at their JavaScript but View source was grayed out. How did they do that? Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas City) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The KCFusion.org list and website is hosted by Humankind Systems, Inc. List Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-list@kcfusion.org Questions, Comments or Glowing Praise.. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box
I'm not sure that forta's page that you're referring to actually uses document.write to produce that. I think he's just including it in a way to hide it, which I do give you that your source viewer does pull it out of there, but I'm under the assumption that it's actually straight html in that .cfm file. Try pulling up cookies at hotmail.com. I get a access denied js error. -Original Message- From: Ron Hornbaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box I just looked at the viewers you're talking about, set them to my favorites, jumped out to one of the sites where we're using a line just like you're talking about with document.write() in the middle of the page, and all it showed me in the source generated from your viewer was exactly what I would get if I viewed the source otherwise. What browser are you using? I'm using IE5.5 here, and when I go to a pure document.write() page like: http://fuselets.com/cftips/ and do a regular view source, all I see is the one-line JS reference. Using the SourceViewer bookmark while there, I see the complete HTML output of the page, the results of the document.write. also, I just tried the cookie viewer, and although somewhat interesting at first, I quickly found that most sites have permissions set on the reading of the cookies, I've never heard of permissions settings on cookies. It's just a simple JS call to read the cookies on the current domain, I've never seen it fail. What's a URL where it's failing? Here's a couple of my results: My Cookies at: www.fbi.gov ASPSESSIONIDQQGQGXSY=MLBLINIDEMALBOEKMGPDGODC My Cookies at: www.microsoft.com MC1=V=3LV=200012HASH=7CD1GUID=3126D17C3A1240D0A38F22EE0A256B57 My Cookies at: www.x10.com vr=VR000; Deal=14379904,TT14,0,0,0,979755380; info=3,13455522,../x10voucher.htm,bk_mk,216.63.20.97; GiftID=445857-979098591-31834; x10hotbody.dat=2634; x10welcomeab2.dat=2811; x10getitbtn.dat=3002; x103cambtn.dat=2864; x10hotdealbtn.dat=3004; x10prodbtn.dat=3005; x10xcambtn.dat=2809 [WHEW! And what's hotbody for?] -Ron -Original Message- From: Ron Hornbaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box It's just simple DHTML. The View Source is grayed-out due to something weird in your browser; there's no way to lock that out. We do the same trick on the headers at http://killerwebmail.com/ (a better IMail webmail interface - login in with demo and blue to check it out) if you want to try to view the source there. Speaking of viewing the source, here's a cool little trick I figured out the other day. Tired of not being able to see the actual HTML output of a JS document.write() function, I created a bookmarkable JS source viewer, that also has a side benefit of cleaning up the HTML's capitalization, missing tags, etc.: http://www.humankindsystems.com/sourcelink.htm Using that tool from a bookmark, you'll be able to see the source of any page. Also have a handy CookieViewer bookmark there, to check your cookies on any site. Very helpful when debugging cookie problems, or just to see all the info various sites are collecting on you. -Ron Ron Hornbaker President/CTO . . . . . . . . . . . . http://humankindsystems.com . . . . . . . . . . . . w e c o d e. w e c a r e. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Keith Purtell Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:18 AM To: KCFusion (E-mail) Subject: [KCFusion] off topic - IMail javascript box Though off topic, I'm posting because several members here have worked with IMail server product. The recent version has a feature where, if you are reading a message and click Header, it will generate a box containing the full email header info. What caught my eye is that although this box sits on top of the existing page content (edges of box bisect characters in text below, so it's not inserting an HTML table), it is still within the browser window, and will scroll with the page contents. I tried to look at their JavaScript but View source was grayed out. How did they do that? Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas City) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The KCFusion.org list and website is hosted by Humankind Systems, Inc. List Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-list@kcfusion.org Questions, Comments or Glowing Praise.. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Subscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ The KCFusion.org list and website is hosted
