Re: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 23:11:48 -0400, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From what I could tell there's very little real difference in how well they > work: they both (VMWare and VPC) do a damn, damn fine job. I've used both quite a bit too, and the main differences I've found are: - Virtual PC VM's run quite a bit faster than VMWare VM's (Athlon 1800, 1GB RAM) - Virtual PC's networking seems to work much better - setting up a VM as a computer on your network and getting internet access etc seems to work almost automatically. VMWare installs a networking driver on the host machine for this which I've found sometimes interferes with other network settings, plus getting a VMWare VM to work on a local network can be a major PITA. - Virtual PC VM's are very, very, VERY slow to install. VMWare formats virtual hard drives so fast you hardly see the progress bar. Virtual PC takes longer than a real hard drive to do the same thing, and then Windows takes nearly twice as long to install as it would on a "real" machine. - I've had problems running out of virtual hard drive space on Virtual PC, even though the drive was set to expand automatically. I never had that problem with VMWare. Given the price difference (and the fact that we got 10 Virtual PC licences with our last Action Pack) we now use Virtual PC, but if you disregarded that and weighed them on their individual merits, it's hard to pick between them. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Ok, I'm taking this step by step, So bear with me... Display_Tables() is a public method that has two arguments: method and values. "method" is a string, "values" is a string. Display_Tables() then calls the method specified by the "method" argument and passes the string specified in "values" as its only argument, In this case, the method called is Get_Phone_Messages(). It has one argument, which I will call "messageIDs". It is a string. Does Get_Phone_Messages() call any other methods? On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 00:06:50 -0400, Peter Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, not from the Display_table method. > -pjf > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
No, not from the Display_table method. -pjf [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Ok, Get_Phone_Messages() takes a single argument. Are there other
dynamically called methods that take multiple arguments?
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:56:01 -0400, Peter Farrell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Despite all my attempts, I cannot for the life of me figure this one out.
>
> I have a CFC method (Display_Table in the application.MessagesCFC) that displays a table of error message (don't ask - employer!). Display_Tables takes two arguments - Function and Error_List. Function is a name of another method in MessagesCFC that Display_Table will call.
>
>
> application.MessageCFC.Display_Tables("Get_Phone_Messages", "1,2,3");
>
>
> I want Display_Table to call whatever function I pass to it in arguments and I also want to pass the list of errors. I.e. Get_Phone_Messages("1,2,3")
>
> I want the function I pass to be dynamic - what I am I missing?
>
> arguments.Function(arguments.Error_List);
>
> Help...?
>
>
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Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
>>Intuitively, I think you are correct, but have not been able to find any reliable stats. My personal feeling is that traditiannally one was counting Mac people PLUS UNIX/LINUX people. If one is still counting the same way, one is now counting Mac users two times: one for using a Mac, and another one for being under UNIX ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I've used both and I use VirtualPC exclusively now - not for any real reason, it just worked out that way. Also I'm on the beta for MS Virtual Server and the VMs are compatible across the products. >From what I could tell there's very little real difference in how well they work: they both (VMWare and VPC) do a damn, damn fine job. I'm doing all of my development now off a dual [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 1,5 gig of RAM running Windows 2003 and the Virtual Server Beta. With that much RAM I can easily run 5 or 6 moderately configured Windows 2000 Servers with ColdFusion or SQL Server (or a coupla WebSphere 5 servers). I used to run several small-form factor PCs with multiple boot options - it was a complete nightmare. On my workstation I run the VPC 2004 Home edition to test browsers and other OSs and such. Whether you use VMWare or VPC once you get the hang of using emulation you just won't go back. You'll find yourself loading up VPCs to browse the internet just so that your "real" PC doesn't get infected with any crap. I set up one just to run my son's games (since children's games SUCK and often screw things up) - the great thing about that is that I can just copy the VPC image to the laptop when we go on vacation. In the same way you'll find yourself doing testing on VPCs, then copying the disk images to DVD so that you can carry the test environment to the office to show somebody how something breaks in just that one scenario. I love it. Jim Davis [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
dsn creation - programatically
I am building an app that needs to create a DSN programatically...I have
the code pretty much done, but the DSN that is created will not work.
I am going to the service factory, grabbing a template DSN and copying
it. Setting the struct values as necessary, then setting the new dsn in
the service factory. It creates the new dsn...you can see it now in the
cfadmin, but it will not authenticate, even though the auth info is
correct. I am not sure where to go now.
Here is my code (from a cfc):
factory = CreateObject("java", "coldfusion.server.ServiceFactory");
ds_service = factory.datasourceservice;
dsources = ds_service.datasources;
// get template_dsn as a temp struct to config and copy
dsncopy = Duplicate(dsources['template_dsn']);
// set the dsn config to temp struct
dsncopy.name = arguments.dbname;
dsncopy.url = '' & arguments.dbname
& '?';
dsncopy.urlmap.CONNECTIONPROPS.DATABASE = arguments.dbname;
dsncopy.urlmap.database = arguments.dbname;
// if user wants to save auth info in dsn, set it here
if (arguments.storepass) {
dsncopy.username = arguments.dbuser;
dsncopy.password = ds_service.encryptPassword(arguments.dbpasswd);
}
// set the new datasource struct in the service factory
dsources[arguments.dsname] = Duplicate(dsncopy);
Any ideas?
Thanks
-Josh
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Re: Can't find Dinowitz Debug was Re: Dinowitz_Debug
Front of the site there's an article with the title of Dinowitz Debug. The link is in the article. I'll replicate it on the bottom of the article for better viewing. http://houseoffusion.com/_library/dinowitz_debug.zip - Original Message - From: Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:04:25 -0700 Subject: Can't find Dinowitz Debug was Re: Dinowitz_Debug To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Went to HOF main page --- No Dinowitz debug??? Help? TIA Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Dinowitz_Debug
I didn't put in a new table layout and just removed the old one. The new one will be the same thing, but rather than say that template X was run 5 times, it'll show ALL of the templates in order but in a table rather than in a tree. On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:36:29 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Go to the front of House of Fusion (http://www.houseoffusion.com). The > > download location as well as the install instructions are right there. > > Have fun and let me know what you think. > The table breakdown isn't working for me > I get the Queries and the Scopes, but the Execution Time is > blank-- Michael Dinowitz http://www.houseoffusion.com For all your ColdFusion needs [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Can't find Dinowitz Debug was Re: Dinowitz_Debug
Went to HOF main page --- No Dinowitz debug??? Help? TIA Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Jul 17, 2004, at 12:12 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > VMware is about $400 or so, and worth every penny. > Dave You mention the above and in a later post that you are using VMWare more and more. Two questions -- MS bought Connectix to get VirtualPC -- from what I've heard, not so much for Mac emulation of PCs, but for PC emulation of multiple PCs (the old IBM ploy -- If somebody is going to take away some of our business, it might as well be us!) Is VirtualPC a serious competitor to VMWare ($400 seems awfully high for an emulator). What do you do with VMware that you are using it more often? TIA Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Off-topic - move to cf-community?: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
OK, this is degenerating into "My O/S is better than your O/S" so let's move it to CF-Community! Please! I mean, I love Mac OS X and I hate Windows but I really don't want to see us debate this on CF-Talk!! Michael!! Nurse, screens please... - Original Message - From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:02:14 -0400 Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There is no way you can start IIS, CFMX, SQL Server, and be able to > get a request handled in 30 seconds. You may start CFMX either through > the services control panel or a script and it seem to start in less > than 30 seconds, but CFMX isn't actually available to serve a request > until later. Further, your first request against CFMX will likely > require the compiling of your source code before the request can be > handled resulting in even great delays. I have an application that > takes almost a minute just to compile. Well, ok, yes, it takes longer to run the first page. It doesn't take so long that it's a productivity drain, however. The only thing where my machine currently is so slow that it's a productivity drain is when I run VMware, which I've been doing more and more often lately. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Paul,
application.FooCFC.fooFunction("Peter", "Pizza");
I passed the arguments to the function by position. I don't have to state an explicit argument name - only the position.
If I did:
application.FooCFC.fooFunction( "Pizza","Peter");
My first name would be "Pizza" and my fav. food would be "Peter".
Does this make sense?
The reason why I only want to pass by position is that each method I could possibly be passing to has a different argument name for the argument in position one. I'd either have to change that all or pass my argument by position instead of:
application.FooCFC.fooFunction(Fav_Food="Pizza",First_Name="Peter");
I don't know if there is a way I could make the method I want a variable and still pass it by position. Otherwise I'll get out of cfscript and use cfinvoke and change all the first position argument to the same name.
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Re: Administrator hangs
I think there is a setting to allow your machine to act as a server. Maybe this is it? I haven't run zone alarm for a while...so I am not positive, but its worth a shot. -Josh --- exciteworks hosting solutions CF hosting starting as low as $10.95 per month http://exciteworks.com 30 days free for house of fusion members! Scott Brady wrote: > Or not. > > When I restarted my machine, it was hanging again, so I had to restart > ZoneAlarm again to get the administrator to show up. > > So, is there a setting in ZoneAlarm I need to set to get the CF Admin to > come up? > > Scott > > Scott Brady wrote: > > > Actually, it appears to be working. > > > > I put the local machine's name into the trusted zones and restarted > > ZoneAlarm. One of those seems to have done the trick. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Scott > > > > David Morris wrote: > > > > > do you have a firewall set up on the laptop? some newer firewalls > > > (like blackice) block the administrative page by default. > > > make sure there is the cfide directory in the wwwroot (or a virtual > > > directory to it), although that's probably not the problem, since > > > you'd just get a 404. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Scott Brady > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:51 AM > > > Subject: Re: Administrator hangs > > > > > > Oh, if it affects anything, I have my webroot set in a non-default > > > location: > > > c:\data\inetpub\wwwroot. > > > > > > I used that as the webroot when installing CFMX, as well, so it > > > shouldn't affect it. > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Dinowitz_Debug
> > I'm seeing the standard debug screen. Did I grab the wrong one? > > Did you put the file into the right folder, and select > Dinowitz_Debug.cfm as the debug output format? Yes I did - I'm used to using the docked debug screen running in a different window and did not have the execution times turned on. When I did it launched the CFTree component for the execution times and nothing else. So I got it to work, though it's a bit of overkill for my situations. Hatton [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Can you show an example of this? I don't think I'm following. On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:24:48 -0400, Peter Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wanting to do it in cfscript as well - however I cannot figure that one out. > > The reason why I wanted to do it by position, is that the methods I'm passing to all of one cfargument but each argument name is different. > > I guess I could go back and ask for them to be changed. > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
I was wanting to do it in cfscript as well - however I cannot figure that one out. The reason why I wanted to do it by position, is that the methods I'm passing to all of one cfargument but each argument name is different. I guess I could go back and ask for them to be changed. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Why? You need to explain a little more then. On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 18:50:17 -0400, Peter Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Paul - > > I thought of that - should of mentioned that. > > Anyway of passing in the variables by position? > > callmefunction(1, 3, 4) > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Thanks Paul - I thought of that - should of mentioned that. Anyway of passing in the variables by position? callmefunction(1, 3, 4) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
This will do the trick:
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:56:01 -0400, Peter Farrell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Despite all my attempts, I cannot for the life of me figure this one out.
>
> I have a CFC method (Display_Table in the application.MessagesCFC) that displays a table of error message (don't ask - employer!). Display_Tables takes two arguments - Function and Error_List. Function is a name of another method in MessagesCFC that Display_Table will call.
>
>
> application.MessageCFC.Display_Tables("Get_Phone_Messages", "1,2,3");
>
>
> I want Display_Table to call whatever function I pass to it in arguments and I also want to pass the list of errors. I.e. Get_Phone_Messages("1,2,3")
>
> I want the function I pass to be dynamic - what I am I missing?
>
> arguments.Function(arguments.Error_List);
>
> Help...?
>
>
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RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> There is no way you can start IIS, CFMX, SQL Server, and be able to > get a request handled in 30 seconds. You may start CFMX either through > the services control panel or a script and it seem to start in less > than 30 seconds, but CFMX isn't actually available to serve a request > until later. Further, your first request against CFMX will likely > require the compiling of your source code before the request can be > handled resulting in even great delays. I have an application that > takes almost a minute just to compile. Well, ok, yes, it takes longer to run the first page. It doesn't take so long that it's a productivity drain, however. The only thing where my machine currently is so slow that it's a productivity drain is when I run VMware, which I've been doing more and more often lately. > All those precautions --which don't always work-- take time too. What > happens when you need administrative privileges? You have to log out and > then log in as a user with administrative privileges. How long does that > take? With Unix, su is pretty damn fast. My goodness, Matt, when was the last time you used Windows? 1999? There've been "su"-alikes for Windows for a long, long time. This functionality has been built into Windows since Win2K, and it's a lot smoother in Windows XP or 2003. As far as the precautions not working, they've done pretty well so far. I would go so far as to say that they've worked as well as can be expected in any environment. On my machine, I use a batch file to run a separate command shell with administrative rights. I install software, set ACLs, etc, from there. The batch file runs the "runas" command, which is essentially the same as su. There's no need to log out and log back in. You can also do the same sort of the thing from the GUI - you can run any program as a different user. You can pin these settings to your GUI shortcuts, so that when you click on the icon you're prompted to enter the password of the other user. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
calling CFC in with dynamic variable - what am I missing here?
Hi All,
Despite all my attempts, I cannot for the life of me figure this one out.
I have a CFC method (Display_Table in the application.MessagesCFC) that displays a table of error message (don't ask - employer!). Display_Tables takes two arguments - Function and Error_List. Function is a name of another method in MessagesCFC that Display_Table will call.
application.MessageCFC.Display_Tables("Get_Phone_Messages", "1,2,3");
I want Display_Table to call whatever function I pass to it in arguments and I also want to pass the list of errors. I.e. Get_Phone_Messages("1,2,3")
I want the function I pass to be dynamic - what I am I missing?
arguments.Function(arguments.Error_List);
Help...?
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Re: Administrator hangs
Or not. When I restarted my machine, it was hanging again, so I had to restart ZoneAlarm again to get the administrator to show up. So, is there a setting in ZoneAlarm I need to set to get the CF Admin to come up? Scott Scott Brady wrote: > Actually, it appears to be working. > > I put the local machine's name into the trusted zones and restarted > ZoneAlarm. One of those seems to have done the trick. > > Thanks! > > Scott > > David Morris wrote: > > > do you have a firewall set up on the laptop? some newer firewalls > > (like blackice) block the administrative page by default. > > make sure there is the cfide directory in the wwwroot (or a virtual > > directory to it), although that's probably not the problem, since > > you'd just get a 404. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Scott Brady > > To: CF-Talk > > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:51 AM > > Subject: Re: Administrator hangs > > > > Oh, if it affects anything, I have my webroot set in a non-default > > location: > > c:\data\inetpub\wwwroot. > > > > I used that as the webroot when installing CFMX, as well, so it > > shouldn't affect it. > > > > Scott > > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> Can you point to a source for these numbers -- Intuitively, I think you
> are correct, but have not been able to find any reliable stats.
>
I don't believe any research as specific as this is available for free. I
get my research from Gartner and Meta Group, but it is rather costly.
> According to Apple latest results, their biggest growth in computers
> was in the laptop segment.
>
Not only that, Apple's share of the laptop market grew faster than the
overall market and any single competitor.
> Apple claims that the Mac has more 'Nix desktops than any other
> computer.
>
That is true.
> Anecdotally, I hear that a surprising number of Mac laptops turn up at
> various developer gatherings ('Nix, Java, CF, etc) where a few years
> ago there were few if any.
>
Just take a look at CFUN. CFUN-02 had very few Mac users there. CFUN-03 had
enough for people to take notice, while CFUN-04 had quite a number.
Anecdotally, that is encouraging to see such growth in the CF market. I
believe Macromedia has a signfictant amount of Macs and apparently Sun has
more Macs than any other company outside of Apple.
-Matt
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RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> I guess the better question is whether there are lots of .NET applications > that can run on non-Windows platforms using Mono. > I believe there are. > But you suggested I get a newer computer! That will certainly cost money. > If > I did get a newer computer, I suppose I could leave all those things > running, though. > At the point where buying a new computer costs less than wasting time with an old computer is when you should consider it. > Wow. There's something wrong with your machine, then. I have a Dell > Inspiron > 7500. We got it in late '99, so I guess it's not quite four yet. As I > said, > I've upgraded the RAM and disk drive. It takes around 30 seconds to start > IIS, a single CFMX instance and a single SQL Server instance. I don't have > a > lot of databases registered within that instance, and that significantly > affects SQL Server startup time, in my experience. The largest SQL Server > database I've worked with locally has been around 7 GB, and that didn't > take > any longer to start up. > There is no way you can start IIS, CFMX, SQL Server, and be able to get a request handled in 30 seconds. You may start CFMX either through the services control panel or a script and it seem to start in less than 30 seconds, but CFMX isn't actually available to serve a request until later. Further, your first request against CFMX will likely require the compiling of your source code before the request can be handled resulting in even great delays. I have an application that takes almost a minute just to compile. > In all my time using Windows, I've never once had a problem with any of > those on my personal computer. Never. I don't run antivirus software, > either. Of course, I do take precautions - I use Mozilla for web browsing, > I > use IP security policy filters to limit inbound access, I don't run as a > user with administrative rights. For that matter, I haven't had problems > with those on the servers I configure, but that's irrelevant to our > current > discussion. > All those precautions --which don't always work-- take time too. What happens when you need administrative privileges? You have to log out and then log in as a user with administrative privileges. How long does that take? With Unix, su is pretty damn fast. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Jul 17, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Matt Liotta wrote:
> Have you looked at the numbers for how many developers are not using
> Windows? The number is quite large and according to the research will
> be
> passing 20% soon enough.
>
Matt
Can you point to a source for these numbers -- Intuitively, I think you
are correct, but have not been able to find any reliable stats.
According to Apple latest results, their biggest growth in computers
was in the laptop segment.
Apple claims that the Mac has more 'Nix desktops than any other
computer.
Anecdotally, I hear that a surprising number of Mac laptops turn up at
various developer gatherings ('Nix, Java, CF, etc) where a few years
ago there were few if any.
A number of developers have told me that they develop on a PC at work,
because that's what's provided. But, the computer they buy for home
use and independent development is a Mac.
Mac hardware has always been cool. That has not changed. What has
changed is the OS.
It is a pretty complete developer system, with (most) everything
pre-installed (Java, Perl, Apache -- MySQL and PHP on OS X Server).
So, i suspect it is more than "coolness" that makes a Mac attractive to
developers.
I was going to say a lot more, but...
Dick
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RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> The idea is that .NET applications work on Mono as well, so yes. > I am not really aware of Mono-specific applications as applications > developed with Mono work on .NET as well. I guess the better question is whether there are lots of .NET applications that can run on non-Windows platforms using Mono. > I don't that is an accurate analogy since running water costs money > where as idle applications don't. But you suggested I get a newer computer! That will certainly cost money. If I did get a newer computer, I suppose I could leave all those things running, though. > SQL Server starts up in seconds on your four year old laptop? CFMX? > What kind of laptop do you have? My brand new one takes minutes. Wow. There's something wrong with your machine, then. I have a Dell Inspiron 7500. We got it in late '99, so I guess it's not quite four yet. As I said, I've upgraded the RAM and disk drive. It takes around 30 seconds to start IIS, a single CFMX instance and a single SQL Server instance. I don't have a lot of databases registered within that instance, and that significantly affects SQL Server startup time, in my experience. The largest SQL Server database I've worked with locally has been around 7 GB, and that didn't take any longer to start up. > > I have been looking around this last week for new laptops, but > > sad to say they're all Windows machines. > > That is sad ;) Don't cry a river on my behalf. I'll be ok, really! > Well certainly some are, but it is my hope that technical people make > logical decisions. Thank you for providing my laugh for the day! > Just wait for the latest virus, worm, exploit, or patch and the list > will increase in size yet again. In all my time using Windows, I've never once had a problem with any of those on my personal computer. Never. I don't run antivirus software, either. Of course, I do take precautions - I use Mozilla for web browsing, I use IP security policy filters to limit inbound access, I don't run as a user with administrative rights. For that matter, I haven't had problems with those on the servers I configure, but that's irrelevant to our current discussion. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Dinowitz_Debug
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 23:09:44 -0400, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > I'm seeing the standard debug screen. Did I grab the wrong one? Did you put the file into the right folder, and select Dinowitz_Debug.cfm as the debug output format? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> I admit I haven't been keeping up with Mono, but are there lots of Mono > applications out in the world now? > The idea is that .NET applications work on Mono as well, so yes. I am not really aware of Mono-specific applications as applications developed with Mono work on .NET as well. > Do you leave the water running in your shower so you won't have to turn it > on before getting in? > I don't that is an accurate analogy since running water costs money where as idle applications don't. > I have no trouble turning things off and on as needed. It takes seconds of > my time within a day. Batch files make it very easy. > SQL Server starts up in seconds on your four year old laptop? CFMX? What kind of laptop do you have? My brand new one takes minutes. > Perhaps, but when it's my money, I may be a bit reluctant if I don't > really > need it. I have been looking around this last week for new laptops, but > sad > to say they're all Windows machines. > That is sad ;) > Really? What makes you think developers aren't susceptible to the same > sort > of trend-setting that you find anywhere else? > Well certainly some are, but it is my hope that technical people make logical decisions. > The number of things on that list is fast approaching zero. > Just wait for the latest virus, worm, exploit, or patch and the list will increase in size yet again. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> I just wanted to make a quick comment on your development environment. > WOW! Must be nice to have the money for all of that software. So what > do you recommend to us 1099 people who are going from project to project > ? Or the developers who have that idea for an application and are > working to develop it out of there garage? I don't know, actually, since those aren't problems I face. However, the software I mentioned doesn't cost much, really. You can get practically every Microsoft product within a single MSDN subscription, which is about $2k (and there are several ways to get it much cheaper). I got MS Office for free - MS actually sent out mailers with it to plenty of people - and the other items I mentioned are available in developers' editions. VMware is about $400 or so, and worth every penny. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> > Because it might be more work to do this? Because it might not be > > worth the time on the part of the developer to spend this extra time? > > I disagree. If you are wanting to hit a particular market with a > product, should you provide the extra time to provide the product in > something that in cross platform? Although MS has cornered the market > with it platform, I am seeing more and more distributions of the > Unix/Linux workstations in Enterprises and other countries. So if you > were serious about producing something that developers would want to > use in their production and would want to promote to other developers, > wouldn't restricting the product to one operating system hinder you > marketability? Perhaps, perhaps not. It remains to be seen whether it's a sensible business move for any given product to ensure that it's cross-platform. It may be the case that for a given product, the cost of cross-platform development may be lower than the benefit derived from people using those platforms buying your product. The reverse may also be true. > Wow, that is great, good for you! I have had similar results, but only > after Windows 2K/Windows XP came out. Well, it's been about four years since Win2K came out, hasn't it. > By the way, if you wanted to use Windows XP for developing web > applications do you realize that IIS will only allow one instance > of a web server? That means that you would have to go with something > like Apache HTTPD in order setup multiple web servers on different > ports. BTW, Windows 2K still allows multiple http servers. Yes, I'm well aware of that. I'm running Windows Server 2003 on my laptop. Before that, I ran Windows 2000 Server on it. I also run Apache 2, just because I want to know how to configure it. Windows XP isn't intended for use as a production web server, so I'm not surprised that it doesn't let you run more than one virtual server. > I always figured that developers developed on these platforms because > a greater flexibility to create "Cross OS Platform" applications. What percentage of developers using those platforms develop cross-platform applications? > Plus I have always found that Linux provides less stress on hardware > while it is running. Plus, I am able to always have at my disposal code > in the back end of the applications to tweak what I see necessary in > order to create more robust applications both web and desktop. Neither of these are issues that I've faced during my web development career. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> Obviously if you are programming in Java or .NET (thanks to Mono) there > really is no work. I admit I haven't been keeping up with Mono, but are there lots of Mono applications out in the world now? > If you are using C++ (MFC or not) there are plenty of > cross-platform toolkits to get you there will little effort. Perhaps "little effort" is relative. > If you aren't running everything at once then you have to spend > time starting and stopping things, which slows you down. It seems > to me anything that slows me down should be avoided especially > when it can be easily solved by buying a new piece of hardware. Do you leave the water running in your shower so you won't have to turn it on before getting in? I have no trouble turning things off and on as needed. It takes seconds of my time within a day. Batch files make it very easy. > You wouldn't advocate spending more time writing a faster web > application when you can just throw more hardware at it and save > money overall, so I think the same thing applies here. Perhaps, but when it's my money, I may be a bit reluctant if I don't really need it. I have been looking around this last week for new laptops, but sad to say they're all Windows machines. > I would hope most developers would be above that. Really? What makes you think developers aren't susceptible to the same sort of trend-setting that you find anywhere else? > What about all the things it does that you don't want it do? The number of things on that list is fast approaching zero. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I just wanted to make a quick comment on your development environment. WOW! Must be nice to have the money for all of that software. So what do you recommend to us 1099 people who are going from project to project ? Or the developers who have that idea for an application and are working to develop it out of there garage? Thanks Jason L. West, Sr Internet Application Specialist, Sr. Dave Watts wrote on 7/17/2004, 14:24: > I'm not sure what counts as intense. I'm running Windows Server 2003 > Enterprise Edition, with IIS 6, multiple instances of SQL Server 2000, > multiple instances of JRun 4 with CFMX, Flex, Generator 2 (!) and > other things. I also have Apache 2, Tomcat 5, and some other server > odds and ends. > > I occasionally use VMware, within which I run Windows 2000, RH Linux > 9, and Windows Server 2003. > > The key is not to turn all these things on at once! Especially not the > VMware. > > I use Dreamweaver MX 2004, MS Office 2003, and Adobe Acrobat > Professional 6 on a pretty regular basis. My mail client is Outlook > 2003, with a local OST mirror of my Exchange mailbox. This local OST > is approximately 2GB. I also have about 3GB of PST content on here > that I access occasionally. I use VS.NET 2003 pretty regularly now, as > I'm very interested in .NET Compact Framework stuff right now. > Fortunately, I don't have to use all these things at once either, > although Outlook is pretty much running 24/7. > > Since getting this laptop, I've upgraded the memory to 512MB, and > upgraded the hard disk to 60GB. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Okay, I think we had lost focus on the subject of this discussion and that would be if the ROI would be there to develop cross platform applications for developers. Restricting most developers to on operating system to develop with your product is a poor choice. Developers are another bread of users to build applications for. Building applications for all other marketplaces is different when it comes to the general population. The funny thing is when you are developing application that are web based the end user has no care on whether it comes from a Unix, Sun, Windows, or Linux server. They are mainly concern whether the application gets the work done. (Business perspective) As for me I do care about whether or not an IDE has multiple builds for other platforms other than Windows. All though this is were the bigger share of the market is currently, will it be for the future? I mean as developers become more skilled and wiser to the abilities of other technologies, do you really want to restrict them to one operating platform in order to use your product? Thanks, Jason L. West, Sr Internet Application Specialist, Sr. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> Perhaps if you're already programming in Java, but there are plenty of VB > and C++/MFC guys out there for whom it would take a significant amount of > time to move to something else. In their cases, they might need more than > a > few percentage points in additional market share. > Obviously if you are programming in Java or .NET (thanks to Mono) there really is no work. If you are using C++ (MFC or not) there are plenty of cross-platform toolkits to get you there will little effort. > I use Dreamweaver MX 2004, MS Office 2003, and Adobe Acrobat Professional > 6 > on a pretty regular basis. My mail client is Outlook 2003, with a local > OST > mirror of my Exchange mailbox. This local OST is approximately 2GB. I also > have about 3GB of PST content on here that I access occasionally. I use > VS.NET 2003 pretty regularly now, as I'm very interested in .NET Compact > Framework stuff right now. Fortunately, I don't have to use all these > things > at once either, although Outlook is pretty much running 24/7. > If you aren't running everything at once then you have to spend time starting and stopping things, which slows you down. It seems to me anything that slows me down should be avoided especially when it can be easily solved by buying a new piece of hardware. You wouldn't advocate spending more time writing a faster web application when you can just throw more hardware at it and save money overall, so I think the same thing applies here. > Perhaps in your case; I can't speak for you. I suspect that there are > plenty > of other developers for whom my description is accurate. I suspect you > might > be an outlier. > I would hope most developers would be above that. > I think the word you're looking for is "administer", but ok, whatever. I > have plenty of reasons why I still use Windows, but the primary one is > that > it does everything I need it to do. > What about all the things it does that you don't want it do? -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
Dave Watts wrote on 7/17/2004, 13:34: > Because it might be more work to do this? Because it might not be > worth the time on the part of the developer to spend this extra time? I disagree. If you are wanting to hit a particular market with a product, should you provide the extra time to provide the product in something that in cross platform? Although MS has cornered the market with it platform, I am seeing more and more distributions of the Unix/Linux workstations in Enterprises and other countries. So if you were serious about producing something that developers would want to use in their production and would want to promote to other developers, wouldn't restricting the product to one operating system hinder you marketability? > That's funny. I've been working with Windows for the last ten years, > with very little stress to my poor old computer. I've been using the > same laptop for the last four years or so, actually, just replacing > the hard disk when it failed. I rarely reinstall my operating system - > again, only when I have a hardware failure, or when a new version > comes out that I want to use. Wow, that is great, good for you! I have had similar results, but only after Windows 2K/Windows XP came out. By the way, if you wanted to use Windows XP for developing web applications do you realize that IIS will only allow one instance of a web server? That means that you would have to go with something like Apache HTTPD in order setup multiple web servers on different ports. BTW, Windows 2K still allows multiple http servers. > I suspect that many developers use Linux or OS X because they're > different, or may have a greater perceived "coolness" factor. I don't > necessarily see higher productivity from those developers, though. Really, that is interesting. I always figured that developers developed on these platforms because a greater flexibility to create "Cross OS Platform" applications. Plus I have always found that Linux provides less stress on hardware while it is running. Plus, I am able to always have at my disposal code in the back end of the applications to tweak what I see necessary in order to create more robust applications both web and desktop. This is just my opinion though. ;-) Jason L. West, Sr. Internet Application Specialist, Sr. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Samuel R. Neff > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 1:53 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... > > I personally would not call any decision made by a knowledgeable > individual > that's based on a cost/benefit analysis "stupid". > I wouldn't either given those parameters. > The fact is most people use Windows and writing an application that works > cross platform does take extra effort and does add an extra layer of > abstraction between your program and the underlying OS that can impede > performance and maintainability. > Certainly some applications require additional effort to be cross-platform. However, most business applications --which is what this discussion is about-- require little to no additional effort. Further, it doesn't require the use of an abstraction layer. Although, in the case of Java you have an abstraction layer in the form of a JVM. > If you're a Mac developer, then sure you care about cross-platform > portability 'cause if you develop just for a Mac then you have a pretty > small potential install base. But if you're a Windows developer, writing > for cross-platform portability does not substantially increase your > install > base. And certainly not when PrimalScript was first written in 1998 and > doubly-not since it was first written as an editor for VBScript and ASP. > Have you looked at the numbers for how many developers are not using Windows? The number is quite large and according to the research will be passing 20% soon enough. The only way a company could justify avoiding numbers like that is if they had a substantial investment in a single platform like is the case with PrimalScript and HomeSite. Of course, as the number of non-Windows developers increases it will be harder and harder to justify. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> It takes little to no additional time to support multiple platforms, > so even a few percentage points in additional market is quite a good > ROI. Perhaps if you're already programming in Java, but there are plenty of VB and C++/MFC guys out there for whom it would take a significant amount of time to move to something else. In their cases, they might need more than a few percentage points in additional market share. > You are using a four year old laptop? I don't know any developers that > use a laptop that old. I suspect you must be an outlier. Then again, > maybe it is the work you do. I mean if you aren't stressing out a four > year old laptop then the work must not be that intense. I mean Outlook > alone is enough to stress out most older machines. I'm not sure what counts as intense. I'm running Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition, with IIS 6, multiple instances of SQL Server 2000, multiple instances of JRun 4 with CFMX, Flex, Generator 2 (!) and other things. I also have Apache 2, Tomcat 5, and some other server odds and ends. I occasionally use VMware, within which I run Windows 2000, RH Linux 9, and Windows Server 2003. The key is not to turn all these things on at once! Especially not the VMware. I use Dreamweaver MX 2004, MS Office 2003, and Adobe Acrobat Professional 6 on a pretty regular basis. My mail client is Outlook 2003, with a local OST mirror of my Exchange mailbox. This local OST is approximately 2GB. I also have about 3GB of PST content on here that I access occasionally. I use VS.NET 2003 pretty regularly now, as I'm very interested in .NET Compact Framework stuff right now. Fortunately, I don't have to use all these things at once either, although Outlook is pretty much running 24/7. Since getting this laptop, I've upgraded the memory to 512MB, and upgraded the hard disk to 60GB. > It has nothing to do with coolness factor or any other useless metric > you can think of. Perhaps in your case; I can't speak for you. I suspect that there are plenty of other developers for whom my description is accurate. I suspect you might be an outlier. > Unix continues to be easier to administrate, faster, more robust, and > just plain more capable. While there are still some good reasons not to > use Linux on the desktop; there is no reason to avoid Mac OS X. I think the word you're looking for is "administer", but ok, whatever. I have plenty of reasons why I still use Windows, but the primary one is that it does everything I need it to do. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
I personally would not call any decision made by a knowledgeable individual that's based on a cost/benefit analysis "stupid". The fact is most people use Windows and writing an application that works cross platform does take extra effort and does add an extra layer of abstraction between your program and the underlying OS that can impede performance and maintainability. If you're a Mac developer, then sure you care about cross-platform portability 'cause if you develop just for a Mac then you have a pretty small potential install base. But if you're a Windows developer, writing for cross-platform portability does not substantially increase your install base. And certainly not when PrimalScript was first written in 1998 and doubly-not since it was first written as an editor for VBScript and ASP. Sam > -Original Message- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:47 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... > > > I truly believe the fastest growing segment of the Mac and > Linux desktop > market is with developers. And why not? The level of stress a > developer puts > on their desktop requires Unix underneath. > > -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> Because it might be more work to do this? Because it might not be worth > the > time on the part of the developer to spend this extra time? > It takes little to no additional time to support multiple platforms, so even a few percentage points in additional market is quite a good ROI. > That's funny. I've been working with Windows for the last ten years, with > very little stress to my poor old computer. I've been using the same > laptop > for the last four years or so, actually, just replacing the hard disk when > it failed. I rarely reinstall my operating system - again, only when I > have > a hardware failure, or when a new version comes out that I want to use. > You are using a four year old laptop? I don't know any developers that use a laptop that old. I suspect you must be an outlier. Then again, maybe it is the work you do. I mean if you aren't stressing out a four year old laptop then the work must not be that intense. I mean Outlook alone is enough to stress out most older machines. > I suspect that many developers use Linux or OS X because they're > different, > or may have a greater perceived "coolness" factor. I don't necessarily see > higher productivity from those developers, though. > It has nothing to do with coolness factor or any other useless metric you can think of. Unix continues to be easier to administrate, faster, more robust, and just plain more capable. While there are still some good reasons not to use Linux on the desktop; there is no reason to avoid Mac OS X. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Security with CFCs [LONG]
On Jul 17, 2004, at 1:05 AM, Jim Davis wrote: >A rather brute-force way of handling permission changes is to force >that (or all) user to re-login after a permission change, A bit >inconvenient, but probably acceptable because you likely wouldn't do >it often That does work... but we can do better! ;^) Also, at least in the other canned system's I've seen out there this is really (surprisingly) difficult. In these systems the security information is copied to the session (and there is normally no way for an application to access all of its attendant sessions). All the security system checks is the roles/groups information stored in the session against the allowable roles/groups stored in the template (or, even worse, just checks a simple "logged in" Boolean in the session scope itself). So without restarting the application there's no way to force new logins because after authenticating these systems NEVER check with the security system again. That's a bad thing, I think. >So, conceptually, you are securing the server, thru that the >application, and thru that the user, and thru that each user request. > >And, you can have as much (or as little) security at each level as you >want, Sorta, kinda? In the simplest case the application.cfm (or some other single point of entry) would just check to see if the user was authenticated (not caring about the roles) like this: The session is logged in The session is not logged in The actually entitlement system is pretty simplistic right now: you define a group (say "administrator") and add UserKeys to it (using an admin system that hasn't been defined yet). After authentication the check entitlement code would be (something like): DP_Security.isEntitled(SessionKey, "Adminstrator"). However you could get very fine grained if you like. You could define Groups that cover functionality just as easily as location. For example you might define a group called "Admin_DeleteUser". Then, in your admin system you could do something like this: Present the control to delete a user. This is what I meant by "the security system doesn't protect itself" - instead you protect the security by defining (in as detailed a fashion as you like) entitlement groups and building your admin UI around them. I've enough on my plate now, but in the future I'd like to expand this to include more advanced entitlements: nested groups of entitlements (allowing you to say that "DeleteUser", "AddUser" and "EditUser" are all part of the "Admin" group), linked entitlements (so you could say "You must be part of BOTH these groups to do this, not just one or the other"), and other things. I could also see Applications that use this system ship scripts for updating existing instances of the system themselves. For example if I were to ship a Forums application using this system I could also ship a small script that added some Forum specific groups to an already in-place system. That way you could easily set up the application by itself or integrate it easily with an existing application. Lastly I also plan (since this is something I've built for 4.5-based systems and really like) to include the ability to passed authentications from one system to another and define trust relationships across them. This will probably be done via web services, but the idea is that I could define a relationship on FirstNight.org that says "Anybody from DepressedPress.com is alright with me!" and allow them in. In that case there would be a special link on the sites that passed the authentication information, but the system would (almost have to) allow for full web service access to authentication: meaning you could set up a single authentication provider for multiple websites (although I can't guarantee performance!) Even with as much as I've described there's loads of room for improvement. >With your design, will you have a graceful way of disabling/re-enabling >an applications permissions? > >This is useful for periodic backups and upgrades. Well, I hadnt thought about it... but I suppose I should. As it stands the Credential has an "isActive" property than can be set to true to temporarily disable access to a particular user without deleting them. Now that you mention it however I suppose an Entitlement (Group) should also have a property like that, uh? Then you could "turn off" a group temporarily. I'm not sure how I'd implement it tho'... the simplest method would be to just return "false" when the entitlement was asked for. That would work, but how would the interface know that the user had access but that the group was disabled versus the user just not having access. I suppose that's just another thing I could leave to the interface... Good idea tho, even if I'm not sure how to best do it. >In your initial post you said (early on): > >"The security system would not secure itself. Perhaps this is > wrong, but I didn't want to make it that complicated" > >and (at th
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> Whether you use C++ or Java, there are ways to have a single code > base that works across platforms, so why not do it? Because it might be more work to do this? Because it might not be worth the time on the part of the developer to spend this extra time? > I truly believe the fastest growing segment of the Mac and Linux > desktop market is with developers. And why not? The level of stress a > developer puts on their desktop requires Unix underneath. That's funny. I've been working with Windows for the last ten years, with very little stress to my poor old computer. I've been using the same laptop for the last four years or so, actually, just replacing the hard disk when it failed. I rarely reinstall my operating system - again, only when I have a hardware failure, or when a new version comes out that I want to use. I suspect that many developers use Linux or OS X because they're different, or may have a greater perceived "coolness" factor. I don't necessarily see higher productivity from those developers, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> Anyway, I was hoping the days of platform specific software for developers > was over. > > --- > > I am very curious as to your meaning here. > I simply mean that having a tool that only works on Windows i.e. not Mac or Linux is pretty stupid. Whether you use C++ or Java, there are ways to have a single code base that works across platforms, so why not do it? I truly believe the fastest growing segment of the Mac and Linux desktop market is with developers. And why not? The level of stress a developer puts on their desktop requires Unix underneath. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: mysql inet_ntoa() cfmx issues
What you are getting is a 2-character representation of each digit --
it is a simple matter to convert to a readable format with:
x="4954554650495446505350465254";
y="";
for (i=1; i LT Len(x); i=i+2) {
y=y & chr(mid(x, i, 2));
}
writeoutput("" & x);
writeoutput("" & y);
Which gives:
4954554650495446505350465254
167.216.252.46
HTH
Dick
On Jul 17, 2004, at 8:43 AM, pandemic wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm running into an issue that's got me stumped. I have an
> application
> that is storing IP addresses as unsigned 32 bit integers in a mysql
> db.
> I need to pull this data from the db via Coldfusion (MX) so i've got
> my
> select statement:
>
> select distinct inet_ntoa(ip_src) as ipsource from acid_event limit 2;
>
> Which returns:
>
> +--+
> | ipsource |
> +--+
> | 4.7.210.187 |
> | 4.10.136.181 |
> +--+
> 2 rows in set (0.09 sec)
>
> inet_ntoa() is a native mysql function that converts the unsigned
> 32-bit
> int into a 4-octet IP. My problem is that CF thinks the result is
> spiting out binary output, exact error is:
> rror Occurred While Processing Request
> ByteArray objects cannot be converted to strings.
>
> A cfdump of the query and error are at
> http://console.syn-recon.net/includes/top10attackers.cfm
>
> Anyone have any advice ?
>
> Thanks,
> Florian
>
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Re: Administrator hangs
Actually, it appears to be working. I put the local machine's name into the trusted zones and restarted ZoneAlarm. One of those seems to have done the trick. Thanks! Scott David Morris wrote: > do you have a firewall set up on the laptop? some newer firewalls > (like blackice) block the administrative page by default. > make sure there is the cfide directory in the wwwroot (or a virtual > directory to it), although that's probably not the problem, since > you'd just get a 404. > > - Original Message - > From: Scott Brady > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:51 AM > Subject: Re: Administrator hangs > > Oh, if it affects anything, I have my webroot set in a non-default > location: > c:\data\inetpub\wwwroot. > > I used that as the webroot when installing CFMX, as well, so it > shouldn't affect it. > > Scott > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Is this not possible?
I have created a CFC object with these basic properties:
With an init() method like this:
instance = structNew();
instance.ID = 0;
instance.category = createobject('component','Category');
instance.subcategory = "";
instance.sscategory = createobject('component','SubSubCategory');
instance.ladiesonly = 0;
instance.status = 0;
datasource="#application.config.DSN#">
select intBoutCatID as catID,
txtBoutSubCat as subcategory,
intSSCatID as sscatID,
blLadies as ladiesonly,
blActive as status
from tblboutsubcat
where intBoutSubCatID =
value="#arguments.ID#" cfsqltype="cf_sql_integer">
instance.ID = arguments.ID;
instance.category = instance.category.get(subcat.catID);
instance.subcategory = subcat.subcategory;
instance.sscategory =
instance.sscategory.get(subcat.sscatID);
instance.ladiesonly = subcat.ladiesonly;
instance.status = subcat.status;
As you can see two of the properties of the object are other custom
objects (category and subsubcategory). I always thought this was
possible, but I'm new at this so...
Anyway, I'm creating a backend editor for populating the db. In the
"Edit" form, I create an instance like so:
formSubCat =
CreateObject("component","#application.config.CFCOMPONENTS_PREFIX#com.seacrets.boutique.subcategory").init(#url.id#);
This does create the object. I am able to populate various fields of the
form like this:
value="#htmleditformat(trim(formSubCat.getID()))#" />
My trouble comes when I try to access one of the object properties that
is, itself, a custom object. For instance, I call a method to get the
category object's ID:
-- --
#trim(formSubCat.getCatID())#> selected>#qCats.Name#
This calls the following method in the subcategory CFC:
returntype="numeric">
Now, in theory, this should be a no brainer, it should call the getID()
method of the category object that is present in the current instance
from the category CFC. However, I get the following error:
The selected method getID was not found.
Either there are no methods with the specified method name and argument
types, or the method getID is overloaded with arguments types that
ColdFusion can't decipher reliably. If this is a Java object and you
verified that the method exists, you may need to use the javacast
function to reduce ambiguity.
The error occurred in
/home/httpd/seacrets/system/cfcomponents/com/seacrets/boutique/subcategory.cfc:
line 162
Called from /home/httpd/seacrets/secure/editor/_subcat.cfm: line 260
Called from /home/httpd/seacrets/secure/editor/main.cfm: line 93
160 :
161 :
162 :
returntype="numeric">
163 :
164 :
...And then the stack trace stuff. Is this just not possible? Am I off
my rocker here? If I can't do it this way then how should it be done?
Cutter
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Re: Administrator hangs
That appears to be it. I shut down ZoneAlarm and it worked. Any idea what setting I need to change to allow it to work? Scott David Morris wrote: > do you have a firewall set up on the laptop? some newer firewalls > (like blackice) block the administrative page by default. > make sure there is the cfide directory in the wwwroot (or a virtual > directory to it), although that's probably not the problem, since > you'd just get a 404. -- --- Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Administrator hangs
do you have a firewall set up on the laptop? some newer firewalls (like blackice) block the administrative page by default. make sure there is the cfide directory in the wwwroot (or a virtual directory to it), although that's probably not the problem, since you'd just get a 404. - Original Message - From: Scott Brady To: CF-Talk Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Administrator hangs Oh, if it affects anything, I have my webroot set in a non-default location: c:\data\inetpub\wwwroot. I used that as the webroot when installing CFMX, as well, so it shouldn't affect it. Scott [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: mysql inet_ntoa() cfmx issues
Florian, Not positive, but I'm not sure that CF supports the inet_ntoa() function of mysql. I know that there is a UDF at cflib for handling the same type of function (for insert, update, and select statements). This may be better suited for your needs. Cutter pandemic wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running into an issue that's got me stumped. I have an application > that is storing IP addresses as unsigned 32 bit integers in a mysql db. > I need to pull this data from the db via Coldfusion (MX) so i've got my > select statement: > > select distinct inet_ntoa(ip_src) as ipsource from acid_event limit 2; > > Which returns: > > +--+ > | ipsource | > +--+ > | 4.7.210.187 | > | 4.10.136.181 | > +--+ > 2 rows in set (0.09 sec) > > inet_ntoa() is a native mysql function that converts the unsigned 32-bit > int into a 4-octet IP. My problem is that CF thinks the result is > spiting out binary output, exact error is: > rror Occurred While Processing Request > ByteArray objects cannot be converted to strings. > > A cfdump of the query and error are at > http://console.syn-recon.net/includes/top10attackers.cfm > > Anyone have any advice ? > > Thanks, > Florian > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
mysql inet_ntoa() cfmx issues
Hi, I'm running into an issue that's got me stumped. I have an application that is storing IP addresses as unsigned 32 bit integers in a mysql db. I need to pull this data from the db via Coldfusion (MX) so i've got my select statement: select distinct inet_ntoa(ip_src) as ipsource from acid_event limit 2; Which returns: +--+ | ipsource | +--+ | 4.7.210.187 | | 4.10.136.181 | +--+ 2 rows in set (0.09 sec) inet_ntoa() is a native mysql function that converts the unsigned 32-bit int into a 4-octet IP. My problem is that CF thinks the result is spiting out binary output, exact error is: rror Occurred While Processing Request ByteArray objects cannot be converted to strings. A cfdump of the query and error are at http://console.syn-recon.net/includes/top10attackers.cfm Anyone have any advice ? Thanks, Florian [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Administrator hangs
Oh, if it affects anything, I have my webroot set in a non-default location: c:\data\inetpub\wwwroot. I used that as the webroot when installing CFMX, as well, so it shouldn't affect it. Scott Scott Brady wrote: > I could have sworn I've seen this subject line before, but can't find it > in the archives. > > I've installed MX 6.1 on my new laptop (XP Pro) using IIS. If I go to > some pages, I get a CF error (Data Source not found), which is fine, > because I haven't set up a DSN yet. However, I can't get to the > administrator, because it hangs. The title bar does say "ColdFusion > Administrator Login", but the page never comes up. I've tried this on > both FireFox and IE, in case it was a browser issue. > > Is there a simple issue I'm missing? > > Scott > > -- > --- > Scott Brady > http://www.scottbrady.net/ > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Administrator hangs
I could have sworn I've seen this subject line before, but can't find it in the archives. I've installed MX 6.1 on my new laptop (XP Pro) using IIS. If I go to some pages, I get a CF error (Data Source not found), which is fine, because I haven't set up a DSN yet. However, I can't get to the administrator, because it hangs. The title bar does say "ColdFusion Administrator Login", but the page never comes up. I've tried this on both FireFox and IE, in case it was a browser issue. Is there a simple issue I'm missing? Scott -- --- Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
- Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE... Anyway, I was hoping the days of platform specific software for developers was over. --- I am very curious as to your meaning here. Aaron [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
On Jul 16, 2004, at 7:04 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: > > 190mb RAM!? What processes are you viewing to calculate that? I > have at > > present a 56mb peak.which is no more that DWMX2004 requires to > even > > show > > a menu. > > > I didn't state Eclipse was using 190MB of RAM. I stated that by > default it > is only allowed to use a maximum of 190MB of RAM. Mine tends to use > anywhere > from 60MB to 120MB depending on what I am doing. > I seem to range between 130-160 MB Real RAM with 3 Eclipse windows open. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: Security with CFCs [LONG]
On Jul 17, 2004, at 1:05 AM, Jim Davis wrote: > > Most of the systems, for example, call the database then create some > type of > user object then store that in the session scope. Thats fine, but > problems occur if an admin changes the persons permissions (since > they > wont take effect until the next log in) or the user ends up with > multiple > sessions. It just always seemed somehow flimsy to me (even tho > Ive done > it in the past myself). A rather brute-force way of handling permission changes is to force that (or all) user to re-login after a permission change, A bit inconvenient, but probably acceptable because you likely wouldn't do it often > The primary goal for me was to design a system that required very > little > knowledge of the application it was protecting. The system Ive > described > (but remember I havent built it yet so this is all conjecture) > will work > just fine if the application doesnt enabled the session scope (in > fact if > you instantiate it in the server scope you dont even need the > application > scope). I like that! > The outside application defines the touch points and keys used to > get at > the information. Im actually quite pleased with that fact: it was an > important turning point for me not to consider how to get things > into the > session and using the session as a cache point. So, conceptually, you are securing the server, thru that the application, and thru that the user, and thru that each user request. And, you can have as much (or as little) security at each level as you want, > The system is complex, but caches its information very aggressively > so (I > hope!) it should still be quite fast. The caching adds complexity > but also > enables us to deal with multiple entities working on the same data > very > gracefully. When I, as an admin, revoke or add permissions on your > account > youll see the change on the very next request. With your design, will you have a graceful way of disabling/re-enabling an applications permissions? This is useful for periodic backups and upgrades. > Once I get the damn thing done it should be a nice, clichéd black > box > you wont have to know how it works inside to use it. As I said the > system > itself wont have any interface at all (although when/if I distribute > it > Ill include a sample interface) so itll be applicable to pretty > much any > CF application. In your initial post you said (early on): "The security system would not secure itself. Perhaps this is wrong, but I didn't want to make it that complicated" and (at the end) "Although I'm truly pleased with the end-user side of things I'm not so sure yet about the admin side of things..." Isn't the logical resolution that: 1) To the "Security" system the Admin is just another, albeit special, application 2) The "Security" system must be robust enough to allow enough function to the Admin application, that it can enable/disable the "Security" system. 3) When disabled, the "Security" of the server (and all that flows from it) could be: Lockdown; or open access; Also, I wonder if this (security system) might be fairly easy to prototype. Consider that most applications have an Application.cfm file. You could have each request invoke the main security module main. this would, initially just gather/log/cache info and return. Another app could real-time monitor the log/cache with some sort/display/zoom options. You will want to have this app anyway as a security monitor control panel. If you write it early, it will help you design and implement the rest of the system You could implement the other functions (cfcs) as skeletons (gather/log/cache & return) and add the associated "touch points" to selected applications. This way you can simulate/observe the security system without affecting the applications. Jim, thanks for the additional explanation -- I think that I understand what "it" does & why I need it. Keep us posted. Dick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Dinowitz_Debug
You have to set "Report Execution Times >> Using the following output mode" to "tree" Pascal > -Original Message- > From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17 July 2004 04:22 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Dinowitz_Debug > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:36:29 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Go to the front of House of Fusion (http://www.houseoffusion.com). The > > download location as well as the install instructions are right there. > > Have fun and let me know what you think. > > The table breakdown isn't working for me > > I get the Queries and the Scopes, but the Execution Time is blank > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Security with CFCs [LONG]
Actually Michaels not quite that strict: you can write and post more than 100 lines, but you get a message reminding you to trim your posts if thats the reason you went over. Im sure he also tracks them and will start sending stinkbugs to anybody that flouts the rule too often. ;^) Ive been struggling with the topic for several weeks now: youd be surprised how little information there is out there on actually building something like this. I looked at the papers by Yoder and Barclow (Patterns for implementing application security) but on one hand they were slightly over my head (requiring some knowledge of more general design patterns) and on the other hand they just didnt go deep enough (there were no object models, no examples of combining the various patterns, etc they just covered the most basic of conceptualizations). Theres one article at Macromedia.com that builds something like this but so painfully simply its really not worth looking at if you really want to do it (the article really covers general CFC creation in detail, but very little about the security system). I even paid for an article/sample code that (I think) Larry Lyons recommended, but it was also a bit on the simplistic side (although perfectly workable) and any caching or advanced features. It also (it seemed to me) lacked a cohesive philosophy of security. I tried several downloads from the Macromedia Exchange and just didnt care for them (again, mostly too simplistic and lacking in flexibility). Most of the systems, for example, call the database then create some type of user object then store that in the session scope. Thats fine, but problems occur if an admin changes the persons permissions (since they wont take effect until the next log in) or the user ends up with multiple sessions. It just always seemed somehow flimsy to me (even tho Ive done it in the past myself). Ive been banging my head against a wall thinking: there must be something Im missing. Some standard design that I can steal, some basic object model that I can start with. I just found nothing useful. As for what it does and why you need it well, I dont know why you need it; but I do know that I need it. And if I do (since Im nothing special) maybe some other people might as well. ;^) The primary goal for me was to design a system that required very little knowledge of the application it was protecting. The system Ive described (but remember I havent built it yet so this is all conjecture) will work just fine if the application doesnt enabled the session scope (in fact if you instantiate it in the server scope you dont even need the application scope). The outside application defines the touch points and keys used to get at the information. Im actually quite pleased with that fact: it was an important turning point for me not to consider how to get things into the session and using the session as a cache point. The system is complex, but caches its information very aggressively so (I hope!) it should still be quite fast. The caching adds complexity but also enables us to deal with multiple entities working on the same data very gracefully. When I, as an admin, revoke or add permissions on your account youll see the change on the very next request. Once I get the damn thing done it should be a nice, clichéd black box you wont have to know how it works inside to use it. As I said the system itself wont have any interface at all (although when/if I distribute it Ill include a sample interface) so itll be applicable to pretty much any CF application. Lastly, although I didnt go into this in the first post (it was more than long enough) but Ive planned the system for expansion: all of the persistence-layer stuff (database interaction) is completely segmented. Adding support for a new database is as easy as creating a new set of broker components with your database-specific code (although it doesnt have to be a database). Since the brokers to use are determined at run-time you can use the same codebase (as long as you have the brokers) to manage as many datasources/data types as you like. You could have two applications use Access, another use SQL Server and another use XML or LDAP. Although for my part Ill probably only be building SQL Server code (at least at first). Can you tell Im a little exciting my the idea? In the final analysis Im just building because I think itll help me and Im just publishing it for free to force me to wrote documentation for it (and maybe get some help with it). There very little selflessness in the process. ;^) Jim Davis [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Security with CFCs [LONG]
If you mean the eventual code then, yes, it will be made public/open source at www.DepressedPress.com (this code, along with a more generalized application framework is being developed specifically to rebuild DepressedPress.com although it will also be used on FirstNight.org, cfadvoacy.org and several other planned sites). I used to release lots of code to the public domain, but don't so much any more due to time constraints. I want to force myself to do so again simply because to ready the code for public use I have to document it - so in the end the whole process tends to help me immensely. ;^) However if you mean the explanation. well, then I have to beg off: it was hard enough getting the description I did out. ;^) Jim Davis From: Paul Kenney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 1:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Security with CFCs [LONG] Is this perhaps something that could be generalized for public consumption? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
