WAR File Deployment
I am running CFusionMX 6.1 and need to deploy a WAR file. I can find no option for that under CFIDE. I tried to manually deploy it by creating a webapps directory and putting the WAR file there, but that didn't work either. I would greatly appreciate some advice. Jonathon ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237407 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
maximum number of files in directory
I'm creating a database for a store. It will probably have several thousand items (but will probably never come close to 10,000). The pictures of the items will be stored in a file directory (not as a blob in a database). What is the maximum amount of files that can be stored in a directory and still have an efficient response time. Each item will have at least two graphics if not three or four #itemID#-th #itemID# It is quite possible that there could be 15-20,000 images in this directory. Is that too many? The alternative is to store the graphics according to designer /graphics/items/#designerName# / #itemID#.jpg or maybe categories (dresses, denim, jewelry) (the advantage of this would be fewer directories than designers) /graphics/items/#categories# / #itemID#.jpg It would be so much simpler to have all the graphics in one directory. Will I be causing problems later on by doing that? Gilbert Midonnet 718.928.4524 www.glmdesigns.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237408 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: maximum number of files in directory
On Tuesday 11 April 2006 13:42, Gilbert Midonnet wrote: It is quite possible that there could be 15-20,000 images in this directory. Is that too many? I would say so. You may want to break it down into subdirs by initial character, 2nd character, and then the file or something. That is how high performance applications like Squid work anyway. You other schemes should work too. simpler to have all the graphics in one directory Only from the point of view of the single well-defined CFC encapsulating the getFilePathForItem() function, so not too much bother :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237409 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: VHS and Betamax
The comment I forgot to make in that post was that really I think the trick is to find handfull of technologies you like that are on the up-swing (since they all rise and fall) and stick with them as long as you can. This should make it easier to add other complementary skills as the demand for them increases and mitigate the risks involved in devaluation of any individual skill as a result of increased supply or waning demand. As an individual I'm personally probably more invested in ColdFusion than anything else, potentially over-invested actually. Ok. But your heavy involvement in CF perpetuates it as well. I guess we shouldn't be to reliant on computers, neh? (-: My opinions on that subject tend to be pretty unpopular. :) Swinging to what side? More so or less? I still put forth that generated code is generated code, why shy away from generated code? So long as it's well formatted (don't look at me, you saw my regex ;) you should be ok, I recon. It's a question of who's generating it and why. :) To me the fact that my coldfusion templates or CFC's are generated Java is transparent. I know it's there, but I don't have to care too much about what's being generated, beyond knowing that it is generated and having some understanding of the problems that can be caused by that. Well, maybe if the optimization is as swell as it's said to be. I can't help but feel that even as smart as computers are, there are areas that a human could see a pattern before the computer could. Or whatever. Guess the argument about optimization has some validity, yet I can't help see history repeat itself. Every few years there's this idea that it doesn't matter, we're getting bigger, faster processors, more RAM, etc.. Yet the real idea is to conserve energy. Sorta. I guess make less go further. That's never going to change, no matter how much power there is. It's the nature of power - corruption and responsibility aside. You may have seen this, but I liked it alot: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog000319.html well be. Thus a sweeping change would need to occur in each bean or require a change to the generator and a re-build of its generated code. I personally find it easier to simply create objects which are flexible enough to not require generation and use composition or inheritance to allow me to make sweeping changes. The sweeping change then is a line or two of code, instead of a larger modification to the generator and a rebuild. So what, you use the root java object? ;-) Seriously, you have to store the information somewhere - I don't know of any ESP generated code. I get what you're saying tho (as much as I'm able. Concepts!=use). I really dig the ideas encapsulated in The Pragmatic Programmer. Good stuff, doesn't matter what language. All old-hat for most I'm sure, but I'd sorta been through the bad that knowledge helps avoid, and I liked the analogies/stories. Nice having it all in that format. But that's coming from someone who, using line breaks and MS Word, smashed several hundred pages of mish-mash into a C^HSV. They weren't commas, so I deleted the C, see? :P It would be a dream to get a bunch of pragmatically generated documents compared to that. Programs you can reverse engineer, whatnot. People are so random, sorta. [...] Ya lost me. :) Sorta saying it's all data, but some data is much easier to parse than other data is. By much I mean astronomically. Or it is, but that whole butterfly in Tibet or whatever, ya know? The right thing at the right time, and bang, you're father of some type of legacy. And conversely, some other legacy never occurs. I'm familar with the concept of the butterfly effect, although I'm not certain what connection you were trying to make. I guess... that there is an element of randomness in evolution. Yet at the same time I'm saying we have a stake in our destiny, so... bleh. doesn't make sense 'cept generally. if then. :) In practice the cf-community list mostly talks about politics. This more fun. If it bugs anyone, I'll try to keep it more CF centric. :D ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237410 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
OT: selling my private (multi-language) spare time-/event-community for german-language countries (cfmx7,mach-II,rich forms)
Hi, Sorry,I know its OT, but maybe someone may be interested.. although its actually for users from germany, austria and switzerland :) Im selling my private Online-Community, its a spare time/ event-community with contact-lists, contacts of contacts, events, a postbox for communication, user-profiles... It currently supports two languages, german and english, users from germany, austria and switzerland can register and have to select their state they come from. (So people can search for users/events in their region..) Here's the URL: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8794405726 The description of this auction is in german.. Well, I know this is an english list, but I thought there a so many users who use this list, so maybe there's somebody who may be interested. I developed this project with cfmx7 (OO), used the mach-II-framework and flash-forms insted of standard-forms (+mysql). There are several service-layers (for remote-access to some functions), gateways, daos, session-facades... I try to sell it because I don't have the time and money to publish it in a professional way :) Regards Sebastian Mork -- Sebastian Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237411 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WAR File Deployment
Use the JRun administrator. There is a good how-to about clusters and 6.1that explains doing it for CF, but it's similar for other apps. On 4/11/06, Jonathon Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running CFusionMX 6.1 and need to deploy a WAR file. I can find no option for that under CFIDE. I tried to manually deploy it by creating a webapps directory and putting the WAR file there, but that didn't work either. I would greatly appreciate some advice. Jonathon ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237412 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ANNOUNCE: CFMBB Forums resurrected
Andrew Grosset wrote: Rick, I tried to register (http://www.cfmbb.org/forums.cfm) and got this error: thanks andrew, I saw your bug report and just fixed it and released 0.81 I also added postgresql support and numerous other changes to 0.81 ... like I changed all the tinyint and bit datatypes to smallint for cross database compatibility... and I changed the column name group to groupName since group is a reserved word in pretty much every database. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237413 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: maximum number of files in directory
or maybe categories (dresses, denim, jewelry) (the advantage of this would be fewer directories than designers) You could also use some better balanced subdivision. For instance, if you have some numerical Id nb, use the three last digits as the file name, and the rest for the directory. This way, when the directory has 1000 files, a new one is created, etc. Use something that cannot be changed in your database, so that you do not have to move the files when data is changed. Category would not be a good choice, since someone may choose the wrong category first, then update the product. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237414 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WAR File Deployment
try dropping the WAR under servers/cfusion-ear DK On 4/11/06, Jonathon Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running CFusionMX 6.1 and need to deploy a WAR file. I can find no option for that under CFIDE. I tried to manually deploy it by creating a webapps directory and putting the WAR file there, but that didn't work either. I would greatly appreciate some advice. Jonathon ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237415 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WAR File Deployment
try dropping the WAR under servers/cfusion-ear DK On 4/11/06, Jonathon Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for responding, but I don't have a JRun administrator and can't find a folder named servers/cfusion-ear. I am running CFusion on IIS. Is that significant? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237416 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: WAR File Deployment
Thanks for responding, but I don't have a JRun administrator and can't find a folder named servers/cfusion-ear. I am running CFusion on IIS. Is that significant? You will see the servers/cfusion-ear directory only if you did the multi-server j2ee install option (or something like that, can't remember the exact wording). On my computer it's here: /jrun4/servers/cfusion-ear [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237417 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: maximum number of files in directory
I have also seen that if clusters on the hard drive go bad that affect the folder. All images in that folder are now inaccessible. -B -Original Message- From: Gilbert Midonnet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: maximum number of files in directory I'm creating a database for a store. It will probably have several thousand items (but will probably never come close to 10,000). The pictures of the items will be stored in a file directory (not as a blob in a database). What is the maximum amount of files that can be stored in a directory and still have an efficient response time. Each item will have at least two graphics if not three or four #itemID#-th #itemID# It is quite possible that there could be 15-20,000 images in this directory. Is that too many? The alternative is to store the graphics according to designer /graphics/items/#designerName# / #itemID#.jpg or maybe categories (dresses, denim, jewelry) (the advantage of this would be fewer directories than designers) /graphics/items/#categories# / #itemID#.jpg It would be so much simpler to have all the graphics in one directory. Will I be causing problems later on by doing that? Gilbert Midonnet 718.928.4524 www.glmdesigns.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237418 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: maximum number of files in directory
Thanks all, I was pretty sure that 10-20,000 was way too much but not certain how best to organize it. I'm still thinking it through. Thanks about the point regarding category. (Category would not be a good choice, since someone may choose the wrong category first, then update the product.) Since each item will have at least two accompanying photos I'll probably do something along the line you suggest but probably bring it down to 100 or 250 instead of a thousand. Thanks Gil -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: maximum number of files in directory or maybe categories (dresses, denim, jewelry) (the advantage of this would be fewer directories than designers) You could also use some better balanced subdivision. For instance, if you have some numerical Id nb, use the three last digits as the file name, and the rest for the directory. This way, when the directory has 1000 files, a new one is created, etc. Use something that cannot be changed in your database, so that you do not have to move the files when data is changed. Category would not be a good choice, since someone may choose the wrong category first, then update the product. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237419 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WAR File Deployment
if you dont' have a jrun4/servers/cfusion-ear folder, you probably do not have the enterprise version. IIRC, you can' deploy WARs on the standard license...i could be wrong on that. DK On 4/11/06, Jonathon Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try dropping the WAR under servers/cfusion-ear DK On 4/11/06, Jonathon Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for responding, but I don't have a JRun administrator and can't find a folder named servers/cfusion-ear. I am running CFusion on IIS. Is that significant? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237420 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFChart Format= Flash Veritical Value
Hello everyone, I have looked on several blogs and tried using webcharts, but as of yet I can't find a way. And there may not be a way. I would like to show the value of a bar chart vertical inside of the bar. Right now I have the values inside of the bar, but they are horizontal. For 2 to 3 digit numbers is fine, but when you get into 5 to 6 digit numbers they need to run vertical. Any ideas? David ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237421 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: maximum number of files in directory
I've served images from a Windows 2000 Server that was fine until it reached 20,000-30,000, at which point it became unstable. Mike -Original Message- From: Gilbert Midonnet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: maximum number of files in directory Thanks all, I was pretty sure that 10-20,000 was way too much but not certain how best to organize it. I'm still thinking it through. Thanks about the point regarding category. (Category would not be a good choice, since someone may choose the wrong category first, then update the product.) Since each item will have at least two accompanying photos I'll probably do something along the line you suggest but probably bring it down to 100 or 250 instead of a thousand. Thanks Gil -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: maximum number of files in directory or maybe categories (dresses, denim, jewelry) (the advantage of this would be fewer directories than designers) You could also use some better balanced subdivision. For instance, if you have some numerical Id nb, use the three last digits as the file name, and the rest for the directory. This way, when the directory has 1000 files, a new one is created, etc. Use something that cannot be changed in your database, so that you do not have to move the files when data is changed. Category would not be a good choice, since someone may choose the wrong category first, then update the product. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237422 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: maximum number of files in directory
I'm creating a database for a store. It will probably have several thousand items (but will probably never come close to 10,000). The pictures of the items will be stored in a file directory (not as a blob in a database). What is the maximum amount of files that can be stored in a directory and still have an efficient response time. Each item will have at least two graphics if not three or four #itemID#-th #itemID# It is quite possible that there could be 15-20,000 images in this directory. Is that too many? Yes, I would strongly recommend using some sort of storage hierarchy. You are very likely to see performance degrade with that many files in a single directory. The specific number of files that'll cause a problem will vary, of course, depending on your hardware and OS, but I've run into this problem several times, and would recommend that you plan for the worst. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237423 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dedicated Server
I'm looking for dedicated server space as well. iWeb.ca doesn't look as if its a CF shop. Gil -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Dedicated Server I've been very satisfied with iWeb.ca Rey... Oðuz_Demirkapý wrote: Hi, I am looking for a reasonable (cheap) dedicated hosting for my private websites like my blog or our CFUG website etc. (~25 domains :-)) I have my own server now at my company's data center but I want to have a new solution that would be more independent from my company. Normally I would like to have a Linux server but I have a project that has MSDE as database and just because of that unfortunately I need to find a server Windows on it. Any suggestion? Sincerely, Oðuz Demirkapý ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237424 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: maximum number of files in directory
I often use the itemID to break down the folders, since these seldom change. Since it is the computer and not humans that do the sorting, the rules can be simple for the computer, even though weird for people. The last 3 digits of the zero padded id has worked well for me. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237425 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: maximum number of files in directory
A customer of mine had a Windows 2K server on a cheesy little box. It had about 15,000 images in one folder and was still serving them up without much if any problem. However, I made the mistake of trying to open the folder in Explorer one day and the machine laughed maniacally then went unconscious. After the reboot, I used the command line to move some things about and reorganize, changed the code in the application and it's continued to work very well to this day with that load spread over about 20 directories arranged by product line and category. A couple of the categories still have folders with 600-700 images in them, but nothing more than that. --Ferg Mike Klostermeyer wrote: I've served images from a Windows 2000 Server that was fine until it reached 20,000-30,000, at which point it became unstable. Mike -Original Message- From: Gilbert Midonnet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: maximum number of files in directory ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237426 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Problem with Java object calls
Hi. I having a problem with a Java object call. It appears that the CF server does not create the objects exclusively when more than one instance of the same script is running. I have created a java class to do multi-threaded XML post to a web service. The java class works fine and everything is great if you only call the script once. If you call it more that once at the same time it appears that a new instance is the same as the other instance. Here is a code segment of how I'm creating the object. cfscript obj_PostXML = CreateObject('java', 'MultiThreadedXMLPost').init(); obj_PostXML.executePost(arr_Arguments); while(obj_PostXML.completedCount LT 2) {} str_output = obj_PostXML.theData; /cfscript cfdump var=#str_output# Is there anyway to make it exclusive? Kind regards, Andrew. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237427 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread
I have already played with those settings, but it still crashed yesterday. Here are the settings I'm using: java.args=-server -DJINTEGRA_NATIVE_MODE -DJINTEGRA_PREFETCH_ENUMS -Xms256m -Xmx512m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -XX:+UseParallelGC -XX:+AggressiveHeap You would think 512mb is enough for the heap? Am I giving it too much possibly? This server has 1gb of ram. Russ -Original Message- From: Oleg Gunkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread Coldfusion 7 needs more heap space than your JVM allows it to use. You need to increase maximum heap size. The following is for JSP, but solution is the same. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_17470 -- Oleg Gunkin Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (604) 666-9392 Emerging Technologies / Pacific Web Services Information Technology Services Public Works and Government Services Canada (Pacific) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237428 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
404 errors and old google data
A client site of mine is getting a bunch of 404 errors now when Google/MSN/Yahoo bots are trying to find pages that were on their old site. Will this problem just fix itself over time? Should I set the header info (other than a 404 status)? Something like a permanent redirect or a permanent not found or something? Just something to let the bots know not to index the error page, but instead to realize that they don't need to have that link anymore? Thanks, ... Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Ave. Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Sanders: Lightspeed too slow? Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237429 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: maximum number of files in directory
On 4/11/06, Gilbert Midonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm creating a database for a store. It will probably have several thousand items (but will probably never come close to 10,000). The pictures of the items will be stored in a file directory (not as a blob in a database). What is the maximum amount of files that can be stored in a directory and still have an efficient response time. Efficient response time is very much a nebulous concept -- hardware, load, and user-dependent. As far as maximum amounts go, that is *filesystem* dependent. Some MS specifics are here (eg 4+ billion files for NTFS) http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c13621675.mspx Linux specifics vary all over the map, since there are so many filesystems, some designed for closer to petabyte storage arrays. It would be so much simpler to have all the graphics in one directory. Will I be causing problems later on by doing that? The smartest thing to do would be to abstract out the storage details so you can change the implementation when you need to. You want a function like PathToItem(itemId) that gives you back the location of the file. But you want the implementation to be a black box to the rest of the app. That way you can start with the simplest possible approach and hard-code a path function PathToItem(itemId) return '/path/to/my/file pathToItem(8202) - c:/wwwroot/myapp/images Then later decide that you need to partition out numerically by the item id into groups of 1000 as someone suggested in this thread function PathToItem(itemId) return '/rootpath/' (itemId DIV 1000) '/' itemId pathToItem(8202) - c:/wwwroot/myapp/images/8/8202 Then later you find that breaking the directories by month/year of entry makes more sense function PathToItem(itemId) return '/rootpath/' Year(createddate) '/' Month(createddate) itemId pathToItem(8202) - c:/wwwroot/myapp/images/2006/04/8202 etc. If you use this to create the path when you write the image and when you read it, you're set. -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237430 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: maximum number of files in directory
This begs another question that I haven't run into a problem with yet but makes me feel uneasy. What about folders within a folder? I have a folder where I create a new folder for every user on the site and then anything they upload goes into their folder. This is working well so far as we only have around 1000 users. We're using a Windows 2003 Server. As it grows am I going to hit the same kind of limitations or does windows handle the folders well enough that it won't be a problem? Just curious because I've never dealt with the issue before when it comes to folder. Definitely had some headaches with the number of files (especially images) in a folder. Anyone have experiences or thoughts? John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: maximum number of files in directory A customer of mine had a Windows 2K server on a cheesy little box. It had about 15,000 images in one folder and was still serving them up without much if any problem. However, I made the mistake of trying to open the folder in Explorer one day and the machine laughed maniacally then went unconscious. After the reboot, I used the command line to move some things about and reorganize, changed the code in the application and it's continued to work very well to this day with that load spread over about 20 directories arranged by product line and category. A couple of the categories still have folders with 600-700 images in them, but nothing more than that. --Ferg Mike Klostermeyer wrote: I've served images from a Windows 2000 Server that was fine until it reached 20,000-30,000, at which point it became unstable. Mike -Original Message- From: Gilbert Midonnet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: maximum number of files in directory ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237431 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: 404 errors and old google data
I'm having the same problem. I just redesigned a site and I'm getting CF errors from some pages and 404 errors from other pages. I'd love to know what you did for a solution. !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: 404 errors and old google data A client site of mine is getting a bunch of 404 errors now when Google/MSN/Yahoo bots are trying to find pages that were on their old site. Will this problem just fix itself over time? Should I set the header info (other than a 404 status)? Something like a permanent redirect or a permanent not found or something? Just something to let the bots know not to index the error page, but instead to realize that they don't need to have that link anymore? Thanks, Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Ave. Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Sanders: Lightspeed too slow? Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237432 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: 404 errors and old google data
If possible, set up an apache redirect that redirects the old url to the new one. (and make it a permanent redirect). This way the search engines will start indexing the new site. You can also just rewrite all the not found urls to the home page of the new site, so this way the search engines will just start indexing that instead... -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: 404 errors and old google data A client site of mine is getting a bunch of 404 errors now when Google/MSN/Yahoo bots are trying to find pages that were on their old site. Will this problem just fix itself over time? Should I set the header info (other than a 404 status)? Something like a permanent redirect or a permanent not found or something? Just something to let the bots know not to index the error page, but instead to realize that they don't need to have that link anymore? Thanks, ... Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Ave. Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Sanders: Lightspeed too slow? Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237433 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: 404 errors and old google data
Russ, Good suggesitons, but I can't really do a permanent redirect as I don't know what the old Urls are... I was not involved in the old site creation, nor was my client-contact. As far as the homepage redirect, I like having the error page to let people know that they didn't make a mistake.. That the site did. Thanks, ... Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Ave. Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Sanders: Lightspeed too slow? Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed. -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: 404 errors and old google data If possible, set up an apache redirect that redirects the old url to the new one. (and make it a permanent redirect). This way the search engines will start indexing the new site. You can also just rewrite all the not found urls to the home page of the new site, so this way the search engines will just start indexing that instead... -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: 404 errors and old google data A client site of mine is getting a bunch of 404 errors now when Google/MSN/Yahoo bots are trying to find pages that were on their old site. Will this problem just fix itself over time? Should I set the header info (other than a 404 status)? Something like a permanent redirect or a permanent not found or something? Just something to let the bots know not to index the error page, but instead to realize that they don't need to have that link anymore? Thanks, ... Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Ave. Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Sanders: Lightspeed too slow? Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237434 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
chr(10) in excel
Hi, I have a page that pops up in excel, but I want line wraps within cells. I tried chr(10) but it doesn't seem to respect it. Has anyone done this or can they try this(i'm using BD now), I vaguely remember this working in the past. Thanks, Seth !---test code--- CFHEADER NAME=Expires VALUE=Mon, 06 Jan 1990 00:00:01 GMT CFHEADER NAME=Pragma VALUE=no-cache CFHEADER NAME=cache-control VALUE=no-cache META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=Mon, 06 Jan 1990 00:00:01 GMT META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache META HTTP-EQUIV=Cache-Control CONTENT=no-cache cfheader name=Content-disposition value=attachment;filename=spreadsheet.xls cfcontent type=application/vnd.ms-excel cfoutputline1a#chr(10)#line1b line2a#chr(10)#line2b/cfoutput == Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html == ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237435 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: chr(10) in excel
Try #chr(13)##chr(10)#? On 4/11/06, Turetsky, Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a page that pops up in excel, but I want line wraps within cells. I tried chr(10) but it doesn't seem to respect it. Has anyone done this or can they try this(i'm using BD now), I vaguely remember this working in the past. Thanks, Seth !---test code--- CFHEADER NAME=Expires VALUE=Mon, 06 Jan 1990 00:00:01 GMT CFHEADER NAME=Pragma VALUE=no-cache CFHEADER NAME=cache-control VALUE=no-cache META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=Mon, 06 Jan 1990 00:00:01 GMT META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache META HTTP-EQUIV=Cache-Control CONTENT=no-cache cfheader name=Content-disposition value=attachment;filename=spreadsheet.xls cfcontent type=application/vnd.ms-excel cfoutputline1a#chr(10)#line1b line2a#chr(10)#line2b/cfoutput == Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html == ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237436 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: VHS and Betamax
The comment I forgot to make in that post was that really I think the trick is to find handfull of technologies you like that are on the up-swing (since they all rise and fall) and stick with them as long as you can. This should make it easier to add other complementary skills as the demand for them increases and mitigate the risks involved in devaluation of any individual skill as a result of increased supply or waning demand. As an individual I'm personally probably more invested in ColdFusion than anything else, potentially over-invested actually. Ok. But your heavy involvement in CF perpetuates it as well. Yes. :) I guess we shouldn't be to reliant on computers, neh? (-: My opinions on that subject tend to be pretty unpopular. :) Swinging to what side? More so or less? Socially I think we allow computers to hand-cuff us. I still put forth that generated code is generated code, why shy away from generated code? So long as it's well formatted (don't look at me, you saw my regex ;) you should be ok, I recon. It's a question of who's generating it and why. :) To me the fact that my coldfusion templates or CFC's are generated Java is transparent. I know it's there, but I don't have to care too much about what's being generated, beyond knowing that it is generated and having some understanding of the problems that can be caused by that. Well, maybe if the optimization is as swell as it's said to be. I can't help but feel that even as smart as computers are, there are areas that a human could see a pattern before the computer could. Or whatever. Is this a response to my comment about why I'm not bothered by the fact that the ColdFusion server generates java code? (another good example of which is that the server used to generate C++ code (at least I thought I remembered somebody saying such), and my knowledge of C++ wasn't helpful when I worked with ColdFusion then either) Guess the argument about optimization has some validity, yet I can't help see history repeat itself. Every few years there's this idea that it doesn't matter, we're getting bigger, faster processors, more RAM, etc.. Yet the real idea is to conserve energy. Sorta. I guess make less go further. That's never going to change, no matter how much power there is. It's the nature of power - corruption and responsibility aside. No not entirely. The issue is that we're still in transition. The hardware progress is not as fast as many of us would like and sometimes we jump the gun with regard to wanting to be able to have the Star Trek computer that we just tell what to do and it does it. So if I build an application today and I fail to optimize it , then my application is going to be slow in comparison to another application which accomplishes the same task. (Incidentally I spend quite a bit of my programming time thinking about the optimization of my software -- I may not always get it right, but I do have a reasonable handle on the concepts.) Skip forward 20 years. Twenty years from now if you load up the same two applications, you won't be able to tell the difference between them. Yes, one of them is still inefficient / slow, but to the human person using them, there is no tangible difference, because advances in hardware cause the slow application to perform as quickly as the efficient one. So both applications have the same value (including monetary value) in the market. When we optimize software, we're not doing that for the future, we're doing that to compete in today's market, and because today's market is always becoming tomorrow's market that means we're always shooting at a moving target, so there becomes this balancing act between how much time we spend optimizing an application and making it blazingly fast today, and how much time we carve away from the optimization game in favor of tasks that will be more important in the market in years to come, such as usability, extensibility and new features. Extensibility in particular is one of those future value prospects. Pretty much without fail, something which makes your application extensible will cost you some efficiency. In some cases it may be thoughtfull application of XML, which as Joel points out in the article you posted is always going to be slow compared to a database (in today's market, and for a good while yet - although if you store the xml in a file and/or in memory you can get some of that back by not needing a network trip through the database port), other times it may be the division of logical functionality into separate objects which then have to be instantiated. Don't get me wrong, I love objects, but object instantiation is always slower than using something that exists already in memory. Thus each time you find an object doing too much and you separate it into two or more objects to handle different tasks, you're increasing the load on the machine, even though you haven't added much if any more code. All
Re: maximum number of files in directory
I'll probably do something along the line you suggest but probably bring it down to 100 or 250 instead of a thousand. Time to use the MOD operator then ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237438 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: 404 errors and old google data
Can't you get the 404 errors from the web server logs? If they tried to access your web site and received a 404, it will be in the logs. M!ke -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: 404 errors and old google data Russ, Good suggesitons, but I can't really do a permanent redirect as I don't know what the old Urls are... I was not involved in the old site creation, nor was my client-contact. As far as the homepage redirect, I like having the error page to let people know that they didn't make a mistake.. That the site did. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237439 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: chr(10) in excel
I think that is to drop to the next cell, but I just want a break in the cell(alt-enter in excel) -Original Message- From: Rob Wilkerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: chr(10) in excel Try #chr(13)##chr(10)#? On 4/11/06, Turetsky, Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a page that pops up in excel, but I want line wraps within cells. I tried chr(10) but it doesn't seem to respect it. Has anyone done this or can they try this(i'm using BD now), I vaguely remember this working in the past. Thanks, Seth !---test code--- CFHEADER NAME=Expires VALUE=Mon, 06 Jan 1990 00:00:01 GMT CFHEADER NAME=Pragma VALUE=no-cache CFHEADER NAME=cache-control VALUE=no-cache META HTTP-EQUIV=Expires CONTENT=Mon, 06 Jan 1990 00:00:01 GMT META HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache META HTTP-EQUIV=Cache-Control CONTENT=no-cache cfheader name=Content-disposition value=attachment;filename=spreadsheet.xls cfcontent type=application/vnd.ms-excel cfoutputline1a#chr(10)#line1b line2a#chr(10)#line2b/cfoutput == Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html == ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237440 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: VHS and Betamax
-Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: VHS and Betamax No not entirely. The issue is that we're still in transition. The hardware progress is not as fast as many of us would like and sometimes we jump the gun with regard to wanting to be able to have the Star Trek computer that we just tell what to do and it does it. So if I build an application today and I fail to optimize it , then my application is going to be slow in comparison to another application which accomplishes the same task. (Incidentally I spend quite a bit of my programming time thinking about the optimization of my software -- I may not always get it right, but I do have a reasonable handle on the concepts.) With genuine respect: I'm not sure that being in transition is relevant - we're always going to be. More horsepower generally seems to engender more complex applications rather than faster ones. Isaac, I wish it were otherwise, but with multi-core, multi-threaded processors/processes, I'm not sure that people CAN optimize software any longer. At least, at the code level. It just isn't cost-effective to spend days trying to tweak a block of code down to 200 cyles from 220 cycles. (unless you're John Carmack!) I can remember the days when it did matter (I wrote Assembler on a 360/40, circa 1967), but I just don't believe that that's the case any longer. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237441 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: chr(10) in excel
OK, I opened Excel, typed 1 then hit alt-enter, and then typed a 2. I then saved the document as html, and this was the table it produced: table x:str border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=64 style='border-collapse: collapse;table-layout:fixed;width:48pt' col width=64 style='width:48pt' tr height=34 style='height:25.5pt' td height=34 class=xl24 width=64 style='height:25.5pt;width:48pt'1br 2/td /tr ![if supportMisalignedColumns] tr height=0 style='display:none' td width=64 style='width:48pt'/td /tr ![endif] /table You can see that it entered a br to denote the new line. Then I saved it as a CSV file, and this was the result: 1 2 As you can see, it wrapped the cell contents in double quotes, and simply put in a line break and cartridge return. A double quote in your value would be escaped as . Now, I don't know if the HTML break will work for you, or if you are doing more of a csv thing, but it is food for thought I guess. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: chr(10) in excel I think that is to drop to the next cell, but I just want a break in the cell(alt-enter in excel) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237442 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread
have you turned on metrics logging? Maybe you need to up your max sim threads. your error trace has quite abit about JDBC in it. Are you limiting your DSN connections? DK On 4/11/06, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have already played with those settings, but it still crashed yesterday. Here are the settings I'm using: java.args=-server -DJINTEGRA_NATIVE_MODE -DJINTEGRA_PREFETCH_ENUMS -Xms256m -Xmx512m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -XX:+UseParallelGC -XX:+AggressiveHeap You would think 512mb is enough for the heap? Am I giving it too much possibly? This server has 1gb of ram. Russ -Original Message- From: Oleg Gunkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread Coldfusion 7 needs more heap space than your JVM allows it to use. You need to increase maximum heap size. The following is for JSP, but solution is the same. http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_17470 -- Oleg Gunkin Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (604) 666-9392 Emerging Technologies / Pacific Web Services Information Technology Services Public Works and Government Services Canada (Pacific) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237443 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: chr(10) in excel
Played with the br but it breaks the cell then. And if I add in html tags, it ignored all chr()'s. hmm might not be possible -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: chr(10) in excel OK, I opened Excel, typed 1 then hit alt-enter, and then typed a 2. I then saved the document as html, and this was the table it produced: table x:str border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width=64 style='border-collapse: collapse;table-layout:fixed;width:48pt' col width=64 style='width:48pt' tr height=34 style='height:25.5pt' td height=34 class=xl24 width=64 style='height:25.5pt;width:48pt'1br 2/td /tr ![if supportMisalignedColumns] tr height=0 style='display:none' td width=64 style='width:48pt'/td /tr ![endif] /table You can see that it entered a br to denote the new line. Then I saved it as a CSV file, and this was the result: 1 2 As you can see, it wrapped the cell contents in double quotes, and simply put in a line break and cartridge return. A double quote in your value would be escaped as . Now, I don't know if the HTML break will work for you, or if you are doing more of a csv thing, but it is food for thought I guess. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: chr(10) in excel I think that is to drop to the next cell, but I just want a break in the cell(alt-enter in excel) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237444 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: maximum number of files in directory
Gilbert Midonnet wrote: I'm creating a database for a store. It will probably have several thousand items (but will probably never come close to 10,000). The pictures of the items will be stored in a file directory (not as a blob in a database). What is the maximum amount of files that can be stored in a directory and still have an efficient response time. Which filesystem? Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237445 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
MS SQL Server 2000 Standard to SQL Server 2005 Express?
Evening folks. We use MS SQL Server 2000 for a small amount of data on our site, mostly smaller bits of content separate to our core business (which is in Cobol), so a few hundred meg of real data I figure. I'm working on building a new web server to replace the loaner we've had for a while and was about to install SQL Server 2000 when I remembered that the 2005 Express edition could also fit our requirements. So has anyone migrated from '2000 to '2005, and if so how well did it go? We don't use any fancy stuff in SQL Server like stored procedures, etc, just basically as a collection of dumb tables, and like I said we've got a few hundred meg of data and that's it. So is it worth trying to convert? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237446 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: MS SQL Server 2000 Standard to SQL Server 2005 Express?
OK, nevermind, SQL Server 2005 Express won't work on dual-processor servers. Ah well. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237447 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: VHS and Betamax
-Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: VHS and Betamax No not entirely. The issue is that we're still in transition. The hardware progress is not as fast as many of us would like and sometimes we jump the gun with regard to wanting to be able to have the Star Trek computer that we just tell what to do and it does it. So if I build an application today and I fail to optimize it, then my application is going to be slow in comparison to another application which accomplishes the same task. (Incidentally I spend quite a bit of my programming time thinking about the optimization of my software -- I may not always get it right, but I do have a reasonable handle on the concepts.) With genuine respect: Thanks, although I always assume respect is given. :) Having said that I realize that's an opportunity for someone to poke at me for being disrespectful. :) I'm not sure that being in transition is relevant - we're always going to be. More horsepower generally seems to engender more complex applications rather than faster ones. While that's true, feature complexity doesn't inherently solve human need. Particularly with software development (as compared to physical product production) there's a sort of illusion of software being cheaper than it is to make because the business people involved get sort of swept away by the lack of material costs. They don't see the development lifecycle and the planning costs the way we do down here in the trenches. That same sort of lack of understanding at the top frequently engenders a lack of research into the usefulness of the end product. I.e. if it costs nothing to make, then why not just make it? :) The end result is often a lot of guess-work rather than spending the time and money up-front to research what people need. Thus we end up with all those thousands of nifty little features in MS Office products that less than 1% of the product's target market actually use. :P Now couple that with the evolution of hardware. As the hardware becomes more efficient in todays market, software manufacturers continue to add features because the efficiency of the hardware gives them more room to add them. This is true, and I don't debate that it's still important to add features, since I have plenty of examples of applications currently that even at their most efficient are still performing more slowly than we'd like, or that still lack certain features because those features are simply too inefficient to be practical for daily use with today's hardware. Set up ColdFusion developer edition at home with a copy of any anti-virus application with the auto-file scan enabled. Watch how long it takes the CF Server service to start up. :) Webservices as another example are only viable now because the hardware will support them -- we'd have never even tried webservices if we still had to serve everything on the 14.4k modems we had in the early 90's. So what I'm getting at here is that although we can't see it currently, I believe (and I certainly could be wrong) that the demand for features will eventually taper off (although I'm certain it will never be completely abolished) as the hardware becomes more efficient in the same way that the demand for efficiency in our existing feature sets is tapering off. There is only a certain amount of complexity that will be useful to the average person (avoiding the word user here), beyond which any given application begins to delve into a niche market with a much smaller user base, but who as a result of being in that niche market will then also want a certain specific sub-set of features which will vary from the sub-set of features desired by another niche using a similar application. Sure we could just cram both niches into a single application, but it's better for the person using it if they can get something that's not so cavalier about the needs of their niche. There's a good example of this in The Inmates Are Running the Asylum by Alan Cooper where he describes the car that's designed for everyone -- a convertible mini-van with a big bed for hauling lumber. :) I submit to you as a real-world example of that sort of tapering of feature complexity, the common pocket-calculator. :) I know of three essential versions of this thing currently, the basic calculator (performs arithmetic) for people doing their grocery shopping, the scientific calculator (includes a few extra features like the log button) for people in mathematically complex professions such as architects, and the programmable compu-calculator (for mathematicians, trig and calculus students). Note that each of these devices fills a specific niche, and with the possible exception of the most complex of these three niches, the features of these calculators have long since tapered to the point of zero growth. New features aren't added to the basic or scientific calculator anymore
Re: CFChart Format= Flash Veritical Value
Hello everyone, I have looked on several blogs and tried using webcharts, but as of yet I can't find a way. And there may not be a way. I would like to show the value of a bar chart vertical inside of the bar. Right now I have the values inside of the bar, but they are horizontal. For 2 to 3 digit numbers is fine, but when you get into 5 to 6 digit numbers they need to run vertical. Any ideas? David Hi David, I rarely do I read the HoF list, but luckily your message caught my attention. Recently, I've been heavily envolved in charting - using WebCharts3D and the java classes that ship with CFMX7 (bypassing CFChart). What you are referring to is the data label element. I don't think you can rotate the data label 90 degrees to vertical. However, you have two options. 1. Create a horizontal bar chart. Since the bars would then be horizontal, your problem would be solved. 2. Use your current solution without the data label and use the table option in WebCharts3D. Since, I only read the digest - I'll try and keep on this thread (hopefully). Best, ...Peter MaePub ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237449 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: maximum number of files in directory
It's a shared server space. Will probably have to move to a dedicated server -- at least for the client's sake I hope so. Its on an NT 2003 server. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: maximum number of files in directory Gilbert Midonnet wrote: I'm creating a database for a store. It will probably have several thousand items (but will probably never come close to 10,000). The pictures of the items will be stored in a file directory (not as a blob in a database). What is the maximum amount of files that can be stored in a directory and still have an efficient response time. Which filesystem? Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237450 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: 404 errors and old google data
From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:25 AM A client site of mine is getting a bunch of 404 errors now when Google/MSN/Yahoo bots are trying to find pages that were on their old site. Will this problem just fix itself over time? Yes, it would, but it may not be the best option. Should I set the header info (other than a 404 status)? Something like a permanent redirect or a permanent not found or something? I would try to do something like this. I like to do redirects, CF has a way to do that: cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved Permanently cfheader name=Location value=#newURL# cfabort [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237451 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: 404 errors and old google data
Should I set the header info (other than a 404 status)? Something like a permanent redirect or a permanent not found or something? I would try to do something like this. I like to do redirects, CF has a way to do that: cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved Permanently cfheader name=Location value=#newURL# cfabort So, just so I'm clear on SE practices... He said that he has no idea what pages were supposed to correspond to old pages. If he just redirects them all to the root (index.cfm), they won't lose the ranking, and over time, the new site will not be blacklisted or anything. Sorry to jump in the middle if this has already been answered, but I'm having a similar problem right now. Ray ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237452 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Group - but with no order specified
Is there a way to group output in a query and keep the groups together, but with no order specified anywhere? cfquery Select myGROUP, mySubGROUP from myTABLE !---(NO ORDER BY)--- /cfquery I need output like: 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 If you just do the below, it doesn't keep the groups together since they're not together in the database... cfoutput group=myGROUP 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 /cfoutput Outputs (depending on what's in the database) 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 1. myGROUP b. mySUBGOUP 2 If I add a ORDER to the query, it obviously works - but, the client doesn't WANT them in any order. He just wants the groups together. I say you can't have it both ways. You have to have a sort order to keep the groups together. Or is there a weird work around for this? Yea - stupid I know, but clients want what they want... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237453 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: MS SQL Server 2000 Standard to SQL Server 2005 Express?
So has anyone migrated from '2000 to '2005, and if so how well did it go? We don't use any fancy stuff in SQL Server like stored procedures, etc, just basically as a collection of dumb tables, and like I said we've got a few hundred meg of data and that's it. It's my understanding that the database part of 2005 is virtually identical to 2000 (as far as compatibility). There are some new features that you could use, but your 2000 DB /should/ transfer seamlessly. We've done a couple of database ports, and not run into any problems. But we make heavy use of DTS and AS, so we haven't made the jump yet (those are radically different in 2005). -- [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237454 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Group - but with no order specified
Only order the groups, not the subgroups? On 4/11/06, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to group output in a query and keep the groups together, but with no order specified anywhere? cfquery Select myGROUP, mySubGROUP from myTABLE !---(NO ORDER BY)--- /cfquery I need output like: 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 If you just do the below, it doesn't keep the groups together since they're not together in the database... cfoutput group=myGROUP 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 /cfoutput Outputs (depending on what's in the database) 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 1. myGROUP b. mySUBGOUP 2 If I add a ORDER to the query, it obviously works - but, the client doesn't WANT them in any order. He just wants the groups together. I say you can't have it both ways. You have to have a sort order to keep the groups together. Or is there a weird work around for this? Yea - stupid I know, but clients want what they want... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237455 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Group - but with no order specified
This idea may seem complicated, but it should work. Put the ORDER BY in the SQL. Create an empty array. Do your cfoutput with the 'group' attribute. Use cfsavecontent to put each Group's output into a variable in the array. Then you can use some kind of randomizer to grab the output from the array. This would have to be a randomizer that doesn't allow repeating (forget the technical term for that). Good luck. On 4/11/06, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to group output in a query and keep the groups together, but with no order specified anywhere? cfquery Select myGROUP, mySubGROUP from myTABLE !---(NO ORDER BY)--- /cfquery I need output like: 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 If you just do the below, it doesn't keep the groups together since they're not together in the database... cfoutput group=myGROUP 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 /cfoutput Outputs (depending on what's in the database) 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 1. myGROUP b. mySUBGOUP 2 If I add a ORDER to the query, it obviously works - but, the client doesn't WANT them in any order. He just wants the groups together. I say you can't have it both ways. You have to have a sort order to keep the groups together. Or is there a weird work around for this? Yea - stupid I know, but clients want what they want... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237456 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Group - but with no order specified
I don't know what DB you're using, but have you tried using 'group by'? Something like this: select fname, lname, address, city, state, zip from contacts group by state, city, zip -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Group - but with no order specified Is there a way to group output in a query and keep the groups together, but with no order specified anywhere? cfquery Select myGROUP, mySubGROUP from myTABLE !---(NO ORDER BY)--- /cfquery I need output like: 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 If you just do the below, it doesn't keep the groups together since they're not together in the database... cfoutput group=myGROUP 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 /cfoutput Outputs (depending on what's in the database) 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 1. myGROUP b. mySUBGOUP 2 If I add a ORDER to the query, it obviously works - but, the client doesn't WANT them in any order. He just wants the groups together. I say you can't have it both ways. You have to have a sort order to keep the groups together. Or is there a weird work around for this? Yea - stupid I know, but clients want what they want... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237457 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Group - but with no order specified
CF doesn't care if the records are actually in order, it just processes the outer loop when there's a change of value. If myGROUP has a numeric primary key you could do your ORDER BY on that, rather than on the name of it. Failing that, you could sort in some strange way that might look random, but isn't. Like on the 2nd through 5th character in the name. Failing THAT, I'd suggest creating a SORT_ORDER (INTEGER) column for each of the myGROUP records and ask your client what order he'd like them in. -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Group - but with no order specified Is there a way to group output in a query and keep the groups together, but with no order specified anywhere? cfquery Select myGROUP, mySubGROUP from myTABLE !---(NO ORDER BY)--- /cfquery I need output like: 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 If you just do the below, it doesn't keep the groups together since they're not together in the database... cfoutput group=myGROUP 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 /cfoutput Outputs (depending on what's in the database) 1. myGROUP a. mySUBGOUP 1 2. myGROUP 2 a. mySUBGOUP 1 b. mySUBGOUP 2 1. myGROUP b. mySUBGOUP 2 If I add a ORDER to the query, it obviously works - but, the client doesn't WANT them in any order. He just wants the groups together. I say you can't have it both ways. You have to have a sort order to keep the groups together. Or is there a weird work around for this? Yea - stupid I know, but clients want what they want... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237458 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
adobe certification site
I updated my Adobe certification profile the other week when the email arrived from integral7.com, has anyone else been demoted from an Advanced CF Developer to a CF Developer? It's there in the list but for some reason I've been demoted.. anyone else? john. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237459 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Group - but with no order specified
I'd suggest creating a SORT_ORDER (INTEGER) column for each of the myGROUP records and ask your client what order he'd like them in. This is probably what's going to have to happen. Otherwise, Yoda says, Solutions there are, but convoluted are they!. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237460 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Group - but with no order specified
If I add a ORDER to the query, it obviously works - but, the client doesn't WANT them in any order. He just wants the groups together. I'm not trying to sound like a wiseass, but just point out a perspective: if the client doesn't care what order they're in, what's the harm in ordering them? If that doesn't satisfy them, maybe try an ORDER BY on the primary key of whatever's giving you myGroup. -Joe -- Get Glued! The Model-Glue ColdFusion Framework http://www.model-glue.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237461 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Group - but with no order specified
It may well be that they don't not care. They may be specifically asking that they not be in any sort of discernible order. Why are you using the group in the cfoutput instead of in the query? --Ferg Joe Rinehart wrote: If I add a ORDER to the query, it obviously works - but, the client doesn't WANT them in any order. He just wants the groups together. I'm not trying to sound like a wiseass, but just point out a perspective: if the client doesn't care what order they're in, what's the harm in ordering them? If that doesn't satisfy them, maybe try an ORDER BY on the primary key of whatever's giving you myGroup. -Joe -- Get Glued! The Model-Glue ColdFusion Framework http://www.model-glue.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237462 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Group - but with no order specified
If you've got access to mySQL then just ORDER BY RAND(). !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Group - but with no order specified It may well be that they don't not care. They may be specifically asking that they not be in any sort of discernible order. Why are you using the group in the cfoutput instead of in the query? --Ferg Joe Rinehart wrote: If I add a ORDER to the query, it obviously works - but, the client doesn't WANT them in any order. He just wants the groups together. I'm not trying to sound like a wiseass, but just point out a perspective: if the client doesn't care what order they're in, what's the harm in ordering them? If that doesn't satisfy them, maybe try an ORDER BY on the primary key of whatever's giving you myGroup. -Joe -- Get Glued! The Model-Glue ColdFusion Framework http://www.model-glue.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237463 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Group - but with no order specified
I'm not trying to sound like a wiseass, but just point out a perspective: if the client doesn't care what order they're in, what's the harm in ordering them? Client wants it in the order he typed it in, not an alpha sort or anything. What the client don't get though is that he's not necessarily typing stuff in grouped together either. So, I'll give them a sort by box and make it their problem to define the sort. If sort by ain't defined, they'll get alpha, like it or not. It's been alpha for the last year anyway Just for reference, it's the list of contacts in the right panel here: http://www.nmrs.com/news/nelson-mullins-newsletter_detail.cfm?id=2406090D-BCD2-35D3-D151001A53DF4C73 What's wrong with an alpha sort? I've *no* idea! Either way, I'm happy to take more of their money!!! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237464 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: adobe certification site
Nope, I'm still an Advanced whatsit... http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=23543#L -Original Message- From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2006 20:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: adobe certification site I updated my Adobe certification profile the other week when the email arrived from integral7.com, has anyone else been demoted from an Advanced CF Developer to a CF Developer? It's there in the list but for some reason I've been demoted.. anyone else? john. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237465 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Group - but with no order specified
If he's typing it in in order then why not just order it by the autointeger field? !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Group - but with no order specified I'm not trying to sound like a wiseass, but just point out a perspective: if the client doesn't care what order they're in, what's the harm in ordering them? Client wants it in the order he typed it in, not an alpha sort or anything. What the client don't get though is that he's not necessarily typing stuff in grouped together either. So, I'll give them a sort by box and make it their problem to define the sort. If sort by ain't defined, they'll get alpha, like it or not. It's been alpha for the last year anyway Just for reference, it's the list of contacts in the right panel here: http://www.nmrs.com/news/nelson-mullins-newsletter_detail.cfm?id=2406090D-BC D2-35D3-D151001A53DF4C73 What's wrong with an alpha sort? I've *no* idea! Either way, I'm happy to take more of their money!!! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237466 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Group - but with no order specified
Correct, but if a filed being 'GROUPED' in CF is not ORDERed in SQL, then disinct items in the 'outer loop' may beoutput more than once. For example: cfset test = QueryNew('name,item') / cfset queryAddRow(test,6) / cfset querySetCell(test,'name','Bob',1) / cfset querySetCell(test,'item','book',1) / cfset querySetCell(test,'name','Bob',2) / cfset querySetCell(test,'item','ball',2) / cfset querySetCell(test,'name','Jane',3) / cfset querySetCell(test,'item','book',3) / cfset querySetCell(test,'name','Mary',4) / cfset querySetCell(test,'item','dress',4) / cfset querySetCell(test,'name','Jane',5) / cfset querySetCell(test,'item','shoe',5) / cfset querySetCell(test,'name','Bob',6) / cfset querySetCell(test,'item','bat',6) / cfoutput query=test group=name #name#br/ cfoutput--#item#br//cfoutput /cfoutput Will give you: Bob --book --ball Jane --book Mary --dress Jane --shoe Bob --bat Also the GROUP BY clasue in SQL is a different beast than the group attribute in cfquery On 4/11/06, Everett, Al (NIH/NIGMS) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF doesn't care if the records are actually in order, it just processes the outer loop when there's a change of value. -- Scott Stroz Boyzoid.com ___ Some days you are the dog, Some days you are the tree. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237467 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
hash question
I'm trying to reverse engineer a hash and i'm not sure what could product something like this: 931c6ff8d9e365bfb412 the value returned by this system is always 20 chars in length and only consists of letters and numbers. no i have no idea what it is but i'm trying to reverse engineer it to see if i can recreate it. Anyone know what could create a 20 char hash? if it helps at all this is coming from an Oracle 10G server. jonese ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237468 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: hash question
I'm trying to reverse engineer a hash ... The whole point of a hash algorithm is that it should not be susceptible to reverse-engineering. That is, given a hash, you should never be able to derive the original value from which the hash was created. If this is in fact the case, the only way to determine the value from which a hash was created is to hash a set of values using the same algorithm, and see if any of those hashes match your hash. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237469 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: hash question
I don't think you're gonna be able to do that. The whole idea is for it to be undecipherable and not be able to be reverse-engineered. jonese wrote: I'm trying to reverse engineer a hash and i'm not sure what could product something like this: 931c6ff8d9e365bfb412 the value returned by this system is always 20 chars in length and only consists of letters and numbers. no i have no idea what it is but i'm trying to reverse engineer it to see if i can recreate it. Anyone know what could create a 20 char hash? if it helps at all this is coming from an Oracle 10G server. jonese ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237470 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: hash question
Did you forget your password, which was hashed? -- Oleg Gunkin Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (604) 666-9392 Emerging Technologies / Pacific Web Services Information Technology Services Public Works and Government Services Canada (Pacific) -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 13:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: hash question I'm trying to reverse engineer a hash and i'm not sure what could product something like this: 931c6ff8d9e365bfb412 the value returned by this system is always 20 chars in length and only consists of letters and numbers. no i have no idea what it is but i'm trying to reverse engineer it to see if i can recreate it. Anyone know what could create a 20 char hash? if it helps at all this is coming from an Oracle 10G server. jonese ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237471 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: hash question
right i know this and i have some ideas what data is being hashed but i cannot figure out how to limit a hash to only 20 chars. most of the hashing i've even done has been in md5 sha1 etc and this is obviously not that. I know this is a long shot but i was hoping that the 20 char limit might ring a bell to someone. jonese On 4/11/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to reverse engineer a hash ... The whole point of a hash algorithm is that it should not be susceptible to reverse-engineering. That is, given a hash, you should never be able to derive the original value from which the hash was created. If this is in fact the case, the only way to determine the value from which a hash was created is to hash a set of values using the same algorithm, and see if any of those hashes match your hash. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237472 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CFC Root
Hi, I have a simple code to create a dynamic CFC root and it works for my local system (WinMCE 2005). cfset request.cfcroot = #Replace(listDeleteAt(cgi.script_name,listlen(cgi.script_name,'/'),'/'),'/' ,'','ALL')#. cfc As an example 'E:/projects/abc.com/www/' is my webroot. When I have a cfc file like 'E:/projects/abc.com/www/cfc/image.cfc', I can reach this cfc from my 'E:/projects/abc.com/www/test.cfm' page with a syntax such as cfset application.imageCFC = createobject(component,#request.cfcroot#.image) / But there are problems on Win2003 Servers. Do you have anything like that? What would you suggest as alternative? Sincerely, Oðuz Demirkapý ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237473 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: hash question
I just googled '20 character hash' and found quite a few sites that talk about such an animal. Might be a good start. -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: hash question right i know this and i have some ideas what data is being hashed but i cannot figure out how to limit a hash to only 20 chars. most of the hashing i've even done has been in md5 sha1 etc and this is obviously not that. I know this is a long shot but i was hoping that the 20 char limit might ring a bell to someone. jonese On 4/11/06, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to reverse engineer a hash ... The whole point of a hash algorithm is that it should not be susceptible to reverse-engineering. That is, given a hash, you should never be able to derive the original value from which the hash was created. If this is in fact the case, the only way to determine the value from which a hash was created is to hash a set of values using the same algorithm, and see if any of those hashes match your hash. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237474 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: hash question
He forgot your password Oleg. :) !//-- andy matthews web developer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Oleg Gunkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: hash question Did you forget your password, which was hashed? -- Oleg Gunkin Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (604) 666-9392 Emerging Technologies / Pacific Web Services Information Technology Services Public Works and Government Services Canada (Pacific) -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 13:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: hash question I'm trying to reverse engineer a hash and i'm not sure what could product something like this: 931c6ff8d9e365bfb412 the value returned by this system is always 20 chars in length and only consists of letters and numbers. no i have no idea what it is but i'm trying to reverse engineer it to see if i can recreate it. Anyone know what could create a 20 char hash? if it helps at all this is coming from an Oracle 10G server. jonese ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237475 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: hash question
If it's 10g, it's very possible they're using dbms_crypto to encrypt some piece of data. You seed it with your own random string of varying lengths. You basically create a wrapper package for the built-in dbms_crypto package. Depending on the length of your seed, you'll get different length results. You'd have to guess their seed, though - for this info to do you any good. And, unless you have access to the database server, I'm thinking that's highly unlikely. However, depending on how carefully they wrote their wrapper proc, you might be able to guess the decrypt function to call. Not that I advocate that kind of behavior or anything. On 4/11/06, jonese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to reverse engineer a hash and i'm not sure what could product something like this: 931c6ff8d9e365bfb412 the value returned by this system is always 20 chars in length and only consists of letters and numbers. no i have no idea what it is but i'm trying to reverse engineer it to see if i can recreate it. Anyone know what could create a 20 char hash? if it helps at all this is coming from an Oracle 10G server. jonese ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237476 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: hash question
I think maybe we are a little confused about just what it is that you are trying to accomplish here. Are you trying to write your OWN hashing algorithm? Are you trying to find out the original string which was used to produce this hashed value? Are you trying to figure out WHAT hashing algorithm was used to create this hashed value? ~Brad -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: hash question right i know this and i have some ideas what data is being hashed but i cannot figure out how to limit a hash to only 20 chars. most of the hashing i've even done has been in md5 sha1 etc and this is obviously not that. I know this is a long shot but i was hoping that the 20 char limit might ring a bell to someone. jonese ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237477 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: hash question
It could be one of the following algorithms: - RIPEMD-160 - SHA-0 - SHA-1 - Tiger-160 -- Oleg Gunkin Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (604) 666-9392 Emerging Technologies / Pacific Web Services Information Technology Services Public Works and Government Services Canada (Pacific) -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 13:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: hash question I'm trying to reverse engineer a hash and i'm not sure what could product something like this: 931c6ff8d9e365bfb412 the value returned by this system is always 20 chars in length and only consists of letters and numbers. no i have no idea what it is but i'm trying to reverse engineer it to see if i can recreate it. Anyone know what could create a 20 char hash? if it helps at all this is coming from an Oracle 10G server. jonese ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237478 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: hash question
I'm trying to figure out what hashing algorithm was used to create this hashed value. then I'll was 10 or 15 minutes trying to reproduce the hash. if nothing comes of it then I'll move on with life. background: this webservice thing I've been working on is in a BETA so there is a lot of stuff you can't do, like pull product image paths etc from it (which is important for a shopping cart). Well i found a backdoor (yes it's a legal one) which uses a simple HTTP request and that produces an image. The issue is that for some reason the service provided have added this extra hash onto each url link and each image has it's own hash (along with a client id, and a media id). SO i just figured if i could find out what produced the 20 char hash / string maybe i could reproduce it with by tossing in a couple of items. so far it seems like this won't happen so I'll have to hope they open up image grabbing in the webservice sooner rather than later. jonese On 4/11/06, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think maybe we are a little confused about just what it is that you are trying to accomplish here. Are you trying to write your OWN hashing algorithm? Are you trying to find out the original string which was used to produce this hashed value? Are you trying to figure out WHAT hashing algorithm was used to create this hashed value? ~Brad -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: hash question right i know this and i have some ideas what data is being hashed but i cannot figure out how to limit a hash to only 20 chars. most of the hashing i've even done has been in md5 sha1 etc and this is obviously not that. I know this is a long shot but i was hoping that the 20 char limit might ring a bell to someone. jonese ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237479 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CF and 64 Bit Windows 2K3
Hey all, I am commissioning a new server and was going to get dual 64bit AMD processors and 64 bit Windows. Some articles speak how this is good because the 1.8 GB mem limit is not longer a consideration. I just read that CF does not work on 64 Bit windows at all: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=baec9c0c I am not concerned about the performance gains of 64 bit processing at this time, but I don't want to build a new machine now when CF should be supporting 64 bit in the near future. Does anyone have any insight on what I should do? TIA! - j James Curran Nylon Technology 350 Seventh Avenue 10th Floor New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x11 212.691.3477 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.nylontechnology.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237480 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF and 64 Bit Windows 2K3
-Original Message- From: Jim Curran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:37 PM I am commissioning a new server and was going to get dual 64bit AMD processors and 64 bit Windows. Some articles speak how this is good because the 1.8 GB mem limit is not longer a consideration. I just read that CF does not work on 64 Bit windows at all: How about running it on 64bit Linux or Solaris? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237481 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF and 64 Bit Windows 2K3
AMD's 64 bit processor supports 32 bit programs, so if you build your 64 bit machine now, when CF supports 64 bit later, you're all set. Assuming it's not too much trouble to upgrade your OS and such, when the time comes. -Original Message- From: Jim Curran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and 64 Bit Windows 2K3 Hey all, I am commissioning a new server and was going to get dual 64bit AMD processors and 64 bit Windows. Some articles speak how this is good because the 1.8 GB mem limit is not longer a consideration. I just read that CF does not work on 64 Bit windows at all: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=baec9c0c I am not concerned about the performance gains of 64 bit processing at this time, but I don't want to build a new machine now when CF should be supporting 64 bit in the near future. Does anyone have any insight on what I should do? This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237482 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Distinct value count (SQL)
So, I have to do queries occassionally where I have to get the count of unique items in a query. I don't want to return the items, I just want to count them. I end up doing something like: -+ SELECT COUNT(*) AS user_count FROM ( SELECT DISTINCT o.user_id FROM orders o ) AS t1 -+ I always hate doing it this way as it seems like an extra step that there must be a way to avoid. And, I know zero about how SQL works behind the scenes, but this just seems like it would need to create some temp table, which may or may not be the best way. I tried to do the following, but id returns the count of each group, not of the record set. -+ SELECT COUNT(*) AS user_count FROM orders o GROUP BY o.user_id -+ So, any suggestions? Or is this just a two part process?? Thanks, ... Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Ave. Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Sanders: Lightspeed too slow? Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237483 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFC Root
It would be better to create a CF mapping named /abc to a location outside of the webroot, such as E:/projects/abc.com/com/abc/ and then create cfc customtag directories under the new mapping. You would end up with: E:/projects/abc.com/com/abc/cfc/ E:/projects/abc.com/com/abc/customtags/ You would then access your cfc's using the mapping abc.cfc.mycfc For custom tags you could use cfmodule template=abc/customtags/mycustomtag.cfm... Aftershock Web Design, Inc. by: Stan Winchester President/Developer http://www.aftershockweb.com/ Hi, I have a simple code to create a dynamic CFC root and it works for my local system (WinMCE 2005). cfset request.cfcroot = #Replace(listDeleteAt(cgi.script_name,listlen(cgi.script_name,'/'),'/'),'/' ,'','ALL')#. cfc As an example 'E:/projects/abc.com/www/' is my webroot. When I have a cfc file like 'www/cfc/image.cfc', I can reach this cfc from my 'E:/projects/abc.com/www/test.cfm' page with a syntax such as cfset application.imageCFC = createobject(component,#request.cfcroot#.image) / But there are problems on Win2003 Servers. Do you have anything like that? What would you suggest as alternative? Sincerely, Oðuz Demirkapý ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237484 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Distinct value count (SQL)
Ben, Do this, assuming you're using sql server. Select count(distinct user_id) From orders -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Distinct value count (SQL) So, I have to do queries occassionally where I have to get the count of unique items in a query. I don't want to return the items, I just want to count them. I end up doing something like: -+ SELECT COUNT(*) AS user_count FROM ( SELECT DISTINCT o.user_id FROM orders o ) AS t1 -+ I always hate doing it this way as it seems like an extra step that there must be a way to avoid. And, I know zero about how SQL works behind the scenes, but this just seems like it would need to create some temp table, which may or may not be the best way. I tried to do the following, but id returns the count of each group, not of the record set. -+ SELECT COUNT(*) AS user_count FROM orders o GROUP BY o.user_id -+ So, any suggestions? Or is this just a two part process?? Thanks, Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Ave. Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Sanders: Lightspeed too slow? Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237485 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFC Root
I have a project now that I have 4 different servers to test it. And I thought that if I would have a general solution such as relational files that would be nice. :) -Original Message- From: Stan Winchester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Dienstag, 11. April 2006 23:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFC Root It would be better to create a CF mapping named /abc to a location outside of the webroot, such as E:/projects/abc.com/com/abc/ and then create cfc customtag directories under the new mapping. You would end up with: E:/projects/abc.com/com/abc/cfc/ E:/projects/abc.com/com/abc/customtags/ You would then access your cfc's using the mapping abc.cfc.mycfc For custom tags you could use cfmodule template=abc/customtags/mycustomtag.cfm... Aftershock Web Design, Inc. by: Stan Winchester President/Developer http://www.aftershockweb.com/ Hi, I have a simple code to create a dynamic CFC root and it works for my local system (WinMCE 2005). cfset request.cfcroot = #Replace(listDeleteAt(cgi.script_name,listlen(cgi.script_name,'/'),'/'),'/' ,'','ALL')#. cfc As an example 'E:/projects/abc.com/www/' is my webroot. When I have a cfc file like 'www/cfc/image.cfc', I can reach this cfc from my 'E:/projects/abc.com/www/test.cfm' page with a syntax such as cfset application.imageCFC = createobject(component,#request.cfcroot#.image) / But there are problems on Win2003 Servers. Do you have anything like that? What would you suggest as alternative? Sincerely, Oðuz Demirkapý ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237486 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Distinct value count (SQL)
Oh, that's hot! Thanks! ... Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Ave. Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Sanders: Lightspeed too slow? Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed. -Original Message- From: Nick Han [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Distinct value count (SQL) Ben, Do this, assuming you're using sql server. Select count(distinct user_id) From orders -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Distinct value count (SQL) So, I have to do queries occassionally where I have to get the count of unique items in a query. I don't want to return the items, I just want to count them. I end up doing something like: -+ SELECT COUNT(*) AS user_count FROM ( SELECT DISTINCT o.user_id FROM orders o ) AS t1 -+ I always hate doing it this way as it seems like an extra step that there must be a way to avoid. And, I know zero about how SQL works behind the scenes, but this just seems like it would need to create some temp table, which may or may not be the best way. I tried to do the following, but id returns the count of each group, not of the record set. -+ SELECT COUNT(*) AS user_count FROM orders o GROUP BY o.user_id -+ So, any suggestions? Or is this just a two part process?? Thanks, . Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Ave. Suite 1005 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 x 14 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com Sanders: Lightspeed too slow? Helmet: Yes we'll have to go right to ludacris speed. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237487 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF and 64 Bit Windows 2K3
So in this case, I need to stay with the 32 bit version of Windows? Also, any idea when CF will work w/ 64bit processing? - j -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF and 64 Bit Windows 2K3 AMD's 64 bit processor supports 32 bit programs, so if you build your 64 bit machine now, when CF supports 64 bit later, you're all set. Assuming it's not too much trouble to upgrade your OS and such, when the time comes. -Original Message- From: Jim Curran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and 64 Bit Windows 2K3 Hey all, I am commissioning a new server and was going to get dual 64bit AMD processors and 64 bit Windows. Some articles speak how this is good because the 1.8 GB mem limit is not longer a consideration. I just read that CF does not work on 64 Bit windows at all: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=baec9c0c I am not concerned about the performance gains of 64 bit processing at this time, but I don't want to build a new machine now when CF should be supporting 64 bit in the near future. Does anyone have any insight on what I should do? This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237488 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
DailyRazor Hosting
Anyone have any thoughts on DailyRazor Hosting? I need a host that will allow multiple domains. I'm going to be doing the websites for a couple of non-profit clubs so this is going to be all out of my pocket. What I really need is to host 3 websites (mine plus the 2 clubs), and DailyRazor is the only one that I have seen that lets you host multiple domains. Only problem is that their plans jump from 2 domains to 8 domains with a difference in price of 2 domains for $120 per year and 8 domains at $215 per year. The fact that they allow unlimited e-mail addresses is nice (30 minimum required). I know that there did used to be some places that hosted non-profits for free, but I can't find them anymore. I have looked through the recent messages and did research on the hosting services that were listed, but so far DailyRazor has the most for the least amount of money. Thanks for the help. Steve ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237489 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: DailyRazor Hosting
I used to have a dedicated server at...ValueWeb, I believe. Dedicated Linux server. Installed a name server on it and hosted all the domains I wanted. Might want to take a look at what they offer. Cost me $60 a month, if memory serves. Had it for a couple of years ago and only let it go a few months ago due to lack of use. I imagine their prices have gone up, but maybe not by much. http://valueweb.com/ On 4/11/06, Steve Durette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any thoughts on DailyRazor Hosting? I need a host that will allow multiple domains. I'm going to be doing the websites for a couple of non-profit clubs so this is going to be all out of my pocket. What I really need is to host 3 websites (mine plus the 2 clubs), and DailyRazor is the only one that I have seen that lets you host multiple domains. Only problem is that their plans jump from 2 domains to 8 domains with a difference in price of 2 domains for $120 per year and 8 domains at $215 per year. The fact that they allow unlimited e-mail addresses is nice (30 minimum required). I know that there did used to be some places that hosted non-profits for free, but I can't find them anymore. I have looked through the recent messages and did research on the hosting services that were listed, but so far DailyRazor has the most for the least amount of money. Thanks for the help. Steve ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237490 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: DailyRazor Hosting
Steve Durette wrote: Anyone have any thoughts on DailyRazor Hosting? I need a host that will allow multiple domains. I'm going to be doing the websites for a couple of non-profit clubs so this is going to be all out of my pocket. What I really need is to host 3 websites (mine plus the 2 clubs), and DailyRazor is the only one that I have seen that lets you host multiple domains. Only problem is that their plans jump from 2 domains to 8 domains with a difference in price of 2 domains for $120 per year and 8 domains at $215 per year. The fact that they allow unlimited e-mail addresses is nice (30 minimum required). I know that there did used to be some places that hosted non-profits for free, but I can't find them anymore. I have looked through the recent messages and did research on the hosting services that were listed, but so far DailyRazor has the most for the least amount of money. Thanks for the help. Steve Hi Steve, How would you feel about a VPS Account? You can host all the domains you want off of it and it only costs 19.95 per month. We offer BlueDragon Server JX as a free add-on to our VPS Accounts so you can host CFML sites on it as well. BlueDragon Server JX won't always be a free add-on, as we're currently just trying to help the BlueDragon community grow, but we're offering it free at the moment. ;) In addition, we also offer free, no-obligation 7-day trials. So if you just want to give us a shot and see how a VPS feels, you can do it without any financial risk. Hopefully this helps you, and feel free to let us know if you have any questions alright? -- Warm regards, Jordan Michaels Vivio Technologies http://www.viviotech.net/ Blue Dragon Alliance Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237491 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WAR File Deployment
Doh! my bad, you'd definately need the multi-server install. Or super hacking skillz maybe. :D If you re-install, pick the middle option. You want jrun (unless you're gonna try jboss, but... that's a whole other ball of wax) On 4/11/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you dont' have a jrun4/servers/cfusion-ear folder, you probably do not have the enterprise version. IIRC, you can' deploy WARs on the standard license...i could be wrong on that. DK On 4/11/06, Jonathon Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try dropping the WAR under servers/cfusion-ear DK On 4/11/06, Jonathon Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for responding, but I don't have a JRun administrator and can't find a folder named servers/cfusion-ear. I am running CFusion on IIS. Is that significant? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237492 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Template Not Found Error
I've a site on a shared server. Admin has added my requested error document site-map.cfm as requested to the apache container file. This works great for any .html pages, but ignores .cfm templates. So, in my application.cfc file, shouldn't the below redirect to the defined template? cffunction name=onRequestStart returnType=boolean output=true cferror type = exception template = site-map.cfm exception = template It don't. Do I have the total wrong idea here, or what do I have wrong? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237493 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: VHS and Betamax
Socially I think we allow computers to hand-cuff us. Socially? As in people don't get out enought and meet in meat-space? Or our interactions, even on-line? Well, maybe if the optimization is as swell as it's said to be. I can't help but feel that even as smart as computers are, there are areas that a human could see a pattern before the computer could. Or whatever. Is this a response to my comment about why I'm not bothered by the fact that the ColdFusion server generates java code? (another good example of which is that the server used to generate C++ code (at least I thought I remembered somebody saying such), and my knowledge of C++ wasn't helpful when I worked with ColdFusion then either) More along the lines of over helpful generation. The old mac OS always kind of bugged me. It was SO arcane to do underlying stuff, ya know? I guess that was cool too. But you ever feel so abstracted that you are no longer in control? I guess that's bad design or interface or something more than abstraction... The computer still doesn't know the goal (yet), so it has to consider all options, picking what it thinks you want. Your comment about hoping the macromedia engeneers thought about this stuff... some dude some where put some logic in there, there is no law of nature stating that it doesn't matter once your at a higher level. Man, that made sense. Maybe you're right, and it's a moot point, but I think understanding something to it's core is worthy. Actually considering the difference of running the same code on a 64 bit or a 32 bit. It's nice to know it should just work, but I really like that intuitive guess type stuff that happens when you start understanding the nature of something. How did you know to look there to fix that? I dunno, it just made sense. Sometimes stuff doesn't work, even tho we're told at the high level it should. Then what. :-P Ya gotta dig in. If you dig that kind of stuff. I guess you could also just say, hey person who's thing my thing doesn't work with, why aren't you standard?. Or wait for the person who's job it is to do that part figures it out. Guess the argument about optimization has some validity, yet I can't help see history repeat itself. Every few years there's this idea that it doesn't matter, we're getting bigger, faster processors, more RAM, etc.. Yet the real idea is to conserve energy. Sorta. I guess make less go further. That's never going to change, no matter how much power there is. It's the nature of power - corruption and responsibility aside. No not entirely. The issue is that we're still in transition. The hardware progress is not as fast as many of us would like and sometimes we jump the gun with regard to wanting to be able to have the Star Trek computer that we just tell what to do and it does it. So if I build an application today and I fail to optimize it , then my application is going to be slow in comparison to another application which accomplishes the same task. (Incidentally I spend quite a bit of my programming time thinking about the optimization of my software -- I may not always get it right, but I do have a reasonable handle on the concepts.) Skip forward 20 years. I guess our ideas of optimization are different. When I think of optimization, it's not necessarily speed. There are so many areas to optimize, many of which have nothing to do with processors or memory. And much optimization is usefull later on. I would think. At least it seems kind of evolving, or whatever. All that being said of course, anyone can screw up a good thing and it's not very difficult to accomplish. There are lots of times that Ha!! That kills me. Listen to this: I had the bright idea to instead of having tables with different data- types, I'd have tables all of one data-type, and use a key and another table to keep track of what was where or whatever. Long story short, it's death by a thousand queries. I had to make some cache tables in the end, just to keep it all together. Bleh. I'd had some SQL generating stuff already tho so the cache wasn't too hard to wrangle. And now everything is a lot faster, so long as I can get my cache-keeper-up-to-dater working optimally. Sorta saying it's all data, but some data is much easier to parse than other data is. By much I mean astronomically. Oh. Okay... Yes, admittedly. :) Hence much of the reason behind XML. Indeed. I thought that was all the reason. ;-) An object on disk, an object in mem... um. let me try to think of how to express what I'm thinking. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237494 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support:
Need Help Installing Plugins for Eclipse IDE
I have downloaded several .zip files of various plugins for Eclipse (such as Flex 2 SDK, JavaScript Editor, CSS Editor, etc. etc.) but I can't figure out how to install them in Eclipse so that I can open up a new perspective (JavaScript or CSS perspective for example). Can anyone tell me how to use third party plugins with Eclipse? Thanks, Aaron ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:237495 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54