Re: Vmware and CF 8+

2010-09-19 Thread Chris Kelly

Correct - ESXi only supports two processors, neither of the relatively cheap 
SMB packages support more than two procs either (i'm in the midst of doing this 
myself...but with a dual proc machine). 

Microsoft hyper-V does not have this limitation (although in general it seems 
VMware is favored over MS - biggest problem with hyper-v is that service packs 
and critical fixes that require a reboot of the underlying OS means you have to 
reboot however many VM's are running on your box too).

 Would it make sense to do this?

Absolutely!  Several months ago we began consolidating some of our older
servers on to a Dell 2950 with 32GB and lots of RAIDed hard drive space.  We
installed VMware ESXi on the base machine and then copied the ISO images for
our server installs.  We use vSphere to manage it remotely.  It doesn't have
all of the features of the paid VMware solutions, but it's enough to run a
bunch of virtual machines which all hum along nicely without any trouble.

I believe that ESXi only supports two processors though, so you likely
wouldn't be able to take full advantage with the free version.


-Justin Scott 

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Flex/Coldfusion Open source projects

2010-09-19 Thread fun and learning

Hi All -

What are the best active projects in Flex, Coldfusion or both. I am good in 
Coldfusion, but I never got a chance to work in advanced topics. Also, I am 
very interested in learning Flex and I want to learn by contributing to 
existing projects. Also, it would be great if anyone can suggest a project with 
flex for front end and coldfusion as backend

Thanks, 

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Re: Vmware and CF 8+

2010-09-19 Thread Luke Kilpatrick

I think ESXi supports more processors now in vSphere 4.1 that was released back 
in July.

I would send a tweet to @VMwareCares on Monday, Rick Blythe who runs that 
account can help you out on a lot of your VMware Tech questions. If you don't 
get the results there, send me an email lkilpatr...@vmware.com or post your 
question on the VMware Communities, there are many people there that can answer 
your questions too.

Here are a few links that might help you out.

http://communities.vmware.com/home.jspa - VMware Community
http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php - Compatibility Guide
http://www.vmware.com/support/vsphere4/doc/vsp_41_new_feat.html - New Features 
in vSphere 4.1

Hope this helps,

Luke Kilpatrick
Social Media Producer
VMware, Inc. 

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Re: Vmware and CF 8+

2010-09-19 Thread Judah McAuley

You could also take a look at the long-standing and well supported
open source Xen solution for virtualization: http://www.xen.org/

Cheers,
Judah

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Luke Kilpatrick l...@lukek.ca wrote:

 I think ESXi supports more processors now in vSphere 4.1 that was released 
 back in July.

 I would send a tweet to @VMwareCares on Monday, Rick Blythe who runs that 
 account can help you out on a lot of your VMware Tech questions. If you don't 
 get the results there, send me an email lkilpatr...@vmware.com or post your 
 question on the VMware Communities, there are many people there that can 
 answer your questions too.

 Here are a few links that might help you out.

 http://communities.vmware.com/home.jspa - VMware Community
 http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php - Compatibility Guide
 http://www.vmware.com/support/vsphere4/doc/vsp_41_new_feat.html - New 
 Features in vSphere 4.1

 Hope this helps,

 Luke Kilpatrick
 Social Media Producer
 VMware, Inc.

 

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RE: Vmware and CF 8+

2010-09-19 Thread Justin Scott

 biggest problem with hyper-v is that service packs and
 critical fixes that require a reboot of the underlying
 OS means you have to reboot however many VM's are
 running on your box too).

I use ESXi myself, and to be fair to Microsoft, when a critical patch for
ESXi is release it requires the same process (shut down the VMs and reboot
the hypervisor).  Since I deployed ESXi there has been one patch I needed to
install and that was four months ago.  Most of the patches that come out are
related to the CLI which ESXi doesn't ship with, so they're not relevant.


-Justin



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Re: Vmware and CF 8+

2010-09-19 Thread Chris Kelly

yep you are correct (I could swear I just looked at this page, but whatever:)

http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/buy/small_business_editions_comparison.html

however, strangely, both of the SBS solutions do limit you to 2 
procs/server...which is a bit odd - considering you are going from a free to a 
paid product! Which means if you want free...no problem, if you want to add 
say...vMotion for under 5 figures with a 4 proc machine you are out of luck...

the whole back and forth between MS and VMware will be good for all of us 
though as it'll drive features down the chain:)

 I think ESXi supports more processors now in vSphere 4.1 that was 
 released back in July.
 
 I would send a tweet to @VMwareCares on Monday, Rick Blythe who runs 
 that account can help you out on a lot of your VMware Tech questions. 
 If you don't get the results there, send me an email 
 lkilpatr...@vmware.com or post your question on the VMware Communities, 
 there are many people there that can answer your questions too.
 
 Here are a few links that might help you out.
 
 http://communities.vmware.com/home.jspa - VMware Community
 http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php - 
 Compatibility Guide
 http://www.vmware.com/support/vsphere4/doc/vsp_41_new_feat.html - New 
 Features in vSphere 4.1
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Luke Kilpatrick
 Social Media Producer
 VMware, Inc. 


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Re: Vmware and CF 8+

2010-09-19 Thread Chris Kelly

true...I knew that, I think I meant more that nearly every month MS has at 
least one patch that requiresa  reboot, rarely do I go through a patch tuesday 
without some critical fix...

I saw a timeline somewhere where there are far more patches that require 
rebooting on the MS side - which is only to be expected as it's a full blown OS 
running there...as opposed to a stripped down kernel, just running what needs 
to be run for the one function.

 biggest problem with hyper-v is that service packs and
 critical fixes that require a reboot of the underlying
 OS means you have to reboot however many VM's are
 running on your box too).

I use ESXi myself, and to be fair to Microsoft, when a critical patch for
ESXi is release it requires the same process (shut down the VMs and reboot
the hypervisor).  Since I deployed ESXi there has been one patch I needed to
install and that was four months ago.  Most of the patches that come out are
related to the CLI which ESXi doesn't ship with, so they're not relevant.


-Justin 

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RE: Flex/Coldfusion Open source projects

2010-09-19 Thread andy matthews

RIAforge.org has loads of projects based around Adobe products: ColdFusion,
Flex, Photoshop, etc.

CFLib.org has a large number of single serving functions and that sort of
thing.


andy

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To: cf-talk
Subject: Flex/Coldfusion Open source projects


Hi All -

What are the best active projects in Flex, Coldfusion or both. I am good in
Coldfusion, but I never got a chance to work in advanced topics. Also, I am
very interested in learning Flex and I want to learn by contributing to
existing projects. Also, it would be great if anyone can suggest a project
with flex for front end and coldfusion as backend

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Re: Is there a way to force lock release on Access database? (CF9)

2010-09-19 Thread Mike Kear

Lots of people have suggested similar things - cause an error when
running a query on the access database, which will break the lock.
Maureen also suggested deleting the ldb file.   That's the file that
creates the lock and it cant be deleted.It gets deleted when the
system lets go of the

This is old news, I'm afraid.  It dates back to CF5.  Since the MX
era, that no longer works.

However I have found that  in CF9 the lock remains on the access
database only as long as the datasource is being used.   When the
process using the database is completed, the lock is removed
automatically.The reason I never noticed this before is that  I
have been trying to open a zip file,  copy the file to the \db folder
where it can be used as a datasource, update it, then put the access
database file back into the zip file and delete the file i was working
on.   I was trying to do it all in the same page.

Now it seems  I have to put the process into two separate steps. I
have to allow ColdFusion to disconnect from the datasource first,
THEN attempt to delete the mdb file.I have been experimenting with
CFThread as a way of accomplishing this but its a bit obscure to me
yet.   More study required.Or alternatively,  two separate .cfm
files completely, with the second one being triggered separately to
the first.

If anyone has any suggestions as to how i should do this, I'd be most
grateful.

Currently I'm thinking one of the following :

[A] A single .cfm file calling separate threads.  This has the
advantage of the whole process in a single file, but will only work if
the datasource is released after that thread completes processing.
[B] A single .cfm file, calling the actions that require the database
in a custom tag.   But again, that will only work if the datasource is
released after the tag completes processing.
[C] two separate .cfm files,  and one triggered after the first
completes processing.   Perhaps by a third .cfm file controlling both
of the others.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Kris Jones kris.jon...@verizon.net wrote:

 It's not elegant, but I've found that throwing an error on the
 datasource works for releasing them. Try a query against the dsn for a
 table that doesn't exist.

 Cheers,
 Kris

 Try deleting the .ldb file.

 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have to make an Access database containing updated data from my
 SQLServer database,  which can be downloaded by my users by FTP.    I
 can make the Access database a coldfusion datasource,  and fill it up
 with the data I want,  but I need to release it from the lock
 ColdFusion puts on it.  Does anyone have a technique for releasing
 that lock nowdays?   (I'm using CF9 Enter

 

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Re: Vmware and CF 8+

2010-09-19 Thread Dave Watts

This is true if you blindly install every patch released by MS, but that is
a poor patch management strategy to say the least.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software

Sent from my Droid

On Sep 19, 2010 4:59 PM, Chris Kelly juggler...@gmail.com wrote:

 true...I knew that, I think I meant more that nearly every month MS has at
least one patch that requiresa reboot, rarely do I go through a patch
tuesday without some critical fix...

 I saw a timeline somewhere where there are far more patches that require
rebooting on the MS side - which is only to be expected as it's a full blown
OS running there...as opposed to a stripped down kernel, just running what
needs to be run for the one function.

 biggest problem with hyper-v is that service packs and
 critical fixes that require a reboot of the underlying
 OS means you have to reboot however many VM's are
 running on your box too).

I use ESXi myself, and to be fair to Microsoft, when a critical patch for
ESXi is release it requires the same process (shut down the VMs and reboot
the hypervisor). Since I deployed ESXi there has been one patch I needed
to
install and that was four months ago. Most of the patches that come out
are
related to the CLI which ESXi doesn't ship with, so they're not relevant.


-Justin

 

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Re: Is there a way to force lock release on Access database? (CF9)

2010-09-19 Thread Dave Watts

Why not have one page that redirects to another using CFLOCATION?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software

Sent from my Droid

On Sep 19, 2010 9:06 PM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lots of people have suggested similar things - cause an error when
 running a query on the access database, which will break the lock.
 Maureen also suggested deleting the ldb file. That's the file that
 creates the lock and it cant be deleted. It gets deleted when the
 system lets go of the

 This is old news, I'm afraid. It dates back to CF5. Since the MX
 era, that no longer works.

 However I have found that in CF9 the lock remains on the access
 database only as long as the datasource is being used. When the
 process using the database is completed, the lock is removed
 automatically. The reason I never noticed this before is that I
 have been trying to open a zip file, copy the file to the \db folder
 where it can be used as a datasource, update it, then put the access
 database file back into the zip file and delete the file i was working
 on. I was trying to do it all in the same page.

 Now it seems I have to put the process into two separate steps. I
 have to allow ColdFusion to disconnect from the datasource first,
 THEN attempt to delete the mdb file. I have been experimenting with
 CFThread as a way of accomplishing this but its a bit obscure to me
 yet. More study required. Or alternatively, two separate .cfm
 files completely, with the second one being triggered separately to
 the first.

 If anyone has any suggestions as to how i should do this, I'd be most
 grateful.

 Currently I'm thinking one of the following :

 [A] A single .cfm file calling separate threads. This has the
 advantage of the whole process in a single file, but will only work if
 the datasource is released after that thread completes processing.
 [B] A single .cfm file, calling the actions that require the database
 in a custom tag. But again, that will only work if the datasource is
 released after the tag completes processing.
 [C] two separate .cfm files, and one triggered after the first
 completes processing. Perhaps by a third .cfm file controlling both
 of the others.

 Cheers
 Mike Kear
 Windsor, NSW, Australia
 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
 AFP Webworks
 http://afpwebworks.com
 ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



 On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Kris Jones kris.jon...@verizon.net
wrote:

 It's not elegant, but I've found that throwing an error on the
 datasource works for releasing them. Try a query against the dsn for a
 table that doesn't exist.

 Cheers,
 Kris

 Try deleting the .ldb file.

 On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I have to make an Access database containing updated data from my
 SQLServer database,  which can be downloaded by my users by FTP.I
 can make the Access database a coldfusion datasource,  and fill it up
 with the data I want,  but I need to release it from the lock
 ColdFusion puts on it.  Does anyone have a technique for releasing
 that lock nowdays?   (I'm using CF9 Enter



 

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The solution: (was: Re: Is there a way to force lock release on Access database? (CF9) )

2010-09-19 Thread Mike Kear

That would work too, Dave.   I think!The second page would contain
the delete functionality?   Seems to make sense.

The problem is to force ColdFusion to let go of the datasource
completely before attempting to delete the MDB file.  I have found
that using CFThread wont work, because ColdFusion still hangs on to
the datasource even after the .cfthread accessing it has completed.

Later:  ...

I tried Dave Watts' suggestion of a CFLOCATION to a second page, and
it works on my development environment.PROGRESS!  Thank you Dave.

So the lesson to learn:

[A] ColdFusion 9 retains a lock on an Access database for the entire
time a page that requires it is active.  Once the page finishes
processing, the lock is automatically released on the access database.
   PROVISO:  you have to have set up the datasouce in the
CFAdministrator as -- Maintain connections across client requests.
set to Off (unchecked).   I have not been doing any work on this with
that option On, so I can only assume it wont work with that option
set.

[B] causing an error, by running a query on a non-existent table wont
release the lock on the database post-CF5.  That was the advice way
back in the old days, but now it wont work.  In fact it'll be
counter-productive because it will cause the connection to the dsn to
persist even longer and therefore retain the lock longer.


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:

 Why not have one page that redirects to another using CFLOCATION?

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software


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RE: The solution: (was: Re: Is there a way to force lock release on Access database? (CF9) )

2010-09-19 Thread Andrew Scott

One could always use the Administrator API, and remove that setting from the
admin settings. Whether this lock is changed on the request as easily is
another story. 

Just a thought.

Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/



 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Kear [mailto:afpwebwo...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, 20 September 2010 2:41 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: The solution: (was: Re: Is there a way to force lock release on
Access
 database? (CF9) )
 
 
 That would work too, Dave.   I think!The second page would contain
 the delete functionality?   Seems to make sense.
 
 The problem is to force ColdFusion to let go of the datasource completely
 before attempting to delete the MDB file.  I have found that using
CFThread
 wont work, because ColdFusion still hangs on to the datasource even after
 the .cfthread accessing it has completed.
 
 Later:  ...
 
 I tried Dave Watts' suggestion of a CFLOCATION to a second page, and
 it works on my development environment.PROGRESS!  Thank you Dave.
 
 So the lesson to learn:
 
 [A] ColdFusion 9 retains a lock on an Access database for the entire time
a
 page that requires it is active.  Once the page finishes processing, the
lock is
 automatically released on the access database.
PROVISO:  you have to have set up the datasouce in the CFAdministrator
as
 -- Maintain connections across client requests.
 set to Off (unchecked).   I have not been doing any work on this with
 that option On, so I can only assume it wont work with that option set.
 
 [B] causing an error, by running a query on a non-existent table wont
release
 the lock on the database post-CF5.  That was the advice way back in the
old
 days, but now it wont work.  In fact it'll be counter-productive because
it will
 cause the connection to the dsn to persist even longer and therefore
retain
 the lock longer.
 
 


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